Creative Movies of all Times

Saw 'Apocalypto' the other evening, I have very mixed feelings about it. Very gory...and dont know if it does any justice to the Mayan civilization...Seemed to me that Mel Gibson is trying to defend christianity from the blame of destroying that civilization by protraying that it was doomed anyway...

After writing this, I can actually say that it was a disappointing movie...or maybe i went with higher expectations of learning more about the history...see it only after reading a lot about mayans...

...Ah ha! I will have to very amicably disagree with you on this one, Priti!!!
Who ever said (or was so advertised) that the movie ‘Apocalypto’ boasts of being an accurate historical presentation piece in the first place?

I agree that there has been some controversy on the gory details already, and that the critics have lambasted him for showing a supposed great civilization in such a poor light. But the fact of the matter is that even now Historians or anyone else don't really have any solid proof or theory on how the civilization after creating such grandeur temple structures (which by the way still stand perfectly in thickly over grown forests having taken the ravages of time and nature) just disappeared into thin air!…

Also, the backdrop to the story (the theory of a civilization moving to it’s ultimate doom) may not really be that far off as you may actually think: recent studies and archeological facts point to the mass destruction of the green forests on a large scale by the Mayan’s to built their pyramid temples (apparently the huge amount of construction materials to create natural concrete etc. for the mass construction meant the felling of a lot of trees and wiping out crucial lifeline of settlements to create solid effegies for the gods)… and this destruction may well have triggered a lot to the imbalance to the region that led to the civilization’s eventual fall. [Also if you happened to notice in the movie there is a piece depicted of the same where you see trees being felled in mass and even the doomed slaves covered in the white concrete being created]

But having said that (and not wanting to get into some historical discussion at this point) Why not take the movie in the vein of; for example 'Ben-hur' or 'Gladiator', which both by the way had very conveniently twisted the true Historical facts in the name of creative license. ...and so did Mel Gibson for that matter in this one. To my mind he makes no bones to taking it to the point of exaggeration and glorifying their peculiar (and horrifying) methods of sun worship and human sacrifice’s to appease the gods (to bring the elusive rain and prosperity)

In any case, the idea is to get a thrill out of such historically set movies; to transport you into a different world, and to completely absorb you into it. I personally think it managed quite well to do that! The special effects were breath taking and the pace breathless!
[There is no doubt that Mel Gibson made a very clever decision in keeping it to subtitles; ensuring that you are completely transported into those times, language and all!]
 
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:) ...True! I didn't see anywhere that its a true depiction of history...actually didn't do my homework well before watching it...somehow had this notion in mind that its about christian missionaries introducing themselves to the mayans and it turned out to be a complete mayan episode...did like the lead characters determination to reach his family though...ok ok i wont reveal more of the storyline here keeping prospective watchers in mind...thanks for detailing the context and purpose as usual:p ...now i might actually appreciate it in retrospect...:o
 
hey Poonam!
is it based on jane austin's book 'emma'?

Watched "Emma" the other day.
A must for the lovers of Ms. Paltrow. Well, worth a rental I would say.
A beautifully screened musical comedy, not to mention the elegant costumes and wonderful insight into the British style and caste system.
 
A bollywood movie that I really like and which I think was pretty creative too is 'Dor'. Very interesting storyline and very refreshing and authentic acting. The two female leads have a done a wonderful job...especially liked gul panag's character in the movie...
 
:) ...True! I didn't see anywhere that its a true depiction of history...actually didn't do my homework well before watching it...somehow had this notion in mind that its about christian missionaries introducing themselves to the mayans and it turned out to be a complete mayan episode...did like the lead characters determination to reach his family though...ok ok i wont reveal more of the storyline here keeping prospective watchers in mind...thanks for detailing the context and purpose as usual:p ...now i might actually appreciate it in retrospect...:o

Heh! Heh! (a huge grin):) ... awwwwww, now I was definitely not planning to make it some History classroom and going ballistic a la cranky professor (with falling off glasses and balding hairline) on some unsuspecting student; and so in 'retrospect' it was probably information overload on my part!!! :o

Don't worry; I have already had discussions with friends here on the same movie that did not like it for various reasons (some did not even go watch it after having read on gory details!)...so in the end: it is all good! You take back what you can...

DOR was amazing; I personally think that cameo by the guy (can't remember his name except it sounds like a girlish one ;) )...was the most refreshing i have ever seen. His relation with Gul was super cute!

Gul Panag (ex-Miss India, right?) is breath taking in her simple (minus any makeup) looks!!! And her acting prowess is delivered with such a punch!...
I understand from somewhere that it is a remake of a Southie movie, but dunno!

A very creative movie now doubt! (can just hope and against hope that PraveenTewatia ji is reading this!:D )
That director sure is making some movie milestones, indeed!
 
Guys how do you manage to watch so many movies???... I recently watched Batman Begins(yeah am late as always) and found it really awesome... I haven't seen any superhero movie better than this one... lets wait for spidermanIII comes out...

-vinod
 
Guys how do you manage to watch so many movies???... I recently watched Batman Begins(yeah am late as always) and found it really awesome... I haven't seen any superhero movie better than this one... lets wait for spidermanIII comes out...

-vinod

Then watch the latest Superman returns too....it is super awesome one too and this new dude playing the man of steel is actually carrying an uncanny resemblance to the late Christopher Reeves. (what boots to fill)
He is a big guy in helluva shape and easily carries off the blue and red costume (which incidentally has not been enhanced with fake pecs etc. like you probably saw in the all the Batman costume movies)...

Talking about superheroes and their movies; I have a pet peev! What is the deal with casting for their girlfriend's, really!??! I was really disappointed in these drab looking actresses that end up playing the opposite to these super heroes....I mean look at the Spiderman's girlfriend, then Batman's (on the recent one it was-Tom Cruise's Katie) and then this latest Superman's Lois! Ughhh!!! All of em'....
I would presume a possible theory may be that they are doing it so that everyone's focus staying on the super-hero???

As for us catching all these latest flick's, Vinod; now you have Netflix, so no excuses on catching up on all the ones that read about out here! So have fun, dude ;) ...
 
hmmm....i used to love jane austin's books...thanks for recommending...will see its available in nearby rental next time...think there are other movies too on her books....you may like those as well...think its kate winslet in pride and prejudice...or maybe it was sense and sensibility...all the rhyming names :)

Yep, thats right Priti! Jane Austin's lovely Emma...:)
 
slow coach :p

Guys how do you manage to watch so many movies???... I recently watched Batman Begins(yeah am late as always) and found it really awesome... I haven't seen any superhero movie better than this one... lets wait for spidermanIII comes out...

-vinod
 
Hey I watched Superman Returns too, honestly didn't like it that much... too super for me to digest (bullet in eye and lifting a continent), Batman sounded more realistic and plot was just too good... Yeah, agreed that superheros dont get good babes... so you better be careful dude:-).... actually I kindda liked Spiderman's... cute hai...
Yesterday, I watched "For Fistful of Dollars", one of 3 movies in Good Bad Ugly series... it was pretty good... I never get tired of western dhishun-dhishun...

-vinod

Then watch the latest Superman returns too....it is super awesome one too and this new dude playing the man of steel is actually carrying an uncanny resemblance to the late Christopher Reeves. (what boots to fill)
He is a big guy in helluva shape and easily carries off the blue and red costume (which incidentally has not been enhanced with fake pecs etc. like you probably saw in the all the Batman costume movies)...

Talking about superheroes and their movies; I have a pet peev! What is the deal with casting for their girlfriend's, really!??! I was really disappointed in these drab looking actresses that end up playing the opposite to these super heroes....I mean look at the Spiderman's girlfriend, then Batman's (on the recent one it was-Tom Cruise's Katie) and then this latest Superman's Lois! Ughhh!!! All of em'....
I would presume a possible theory may be that they are doing it so that everyone's focus staying on the super-hero???

As for us catching all these latest flick's, Vinod; now you have Netflix, so no excuses on catching up on all the ones that read about out here! So have fun, dude ;) ...
 
Yeah, agreed that superheros dont get good babes... so you better be careful dude:-)....
Yesterday, I watched "For Fistful of Dollars", one of 3 movies in Good Bad Ugly series... it was pretty good... I never get tired of western dhishun-dhishun...

-vinod

Naaah, no worries on that front at all! Already got myself a great looking babe for keeps! ;)

You are bang on about the westerns though! They are da bestum best!!!
Yup, and love those Clint Eastwood ones... lemme recommend 'For a few Dollars more' (or maybe you already have wtached it)...

Try his;'Unforgoiven', 'Pale Rider' too, both are awesome! I know some more of his great spaghetti westerns and will write about them in the next one, once I recall a few!
 
Naaah, no worries on that front at all! Already got myself a great looking babe for keeps! ;)

I know.. was pulling your leg.

You are bang on about the westerns though! They are da bestum best!!!
Yup, and love those Clint Eastwood ones... lemme recommend 'For a few Dollars more' (or maybe you already have wtached it)...

Try his;'Unforgoiven', 'Pale Rider' too, both are awesome! I know some more of his great spaghetti westerns and will write about them in the next one, once I recall a few!
Few Dollars More is also in the list. Unforgiven was too good...
Dancin with wolves bhi theek thi...
Treasure of Sierra Madre was good, was it Hemphrey Davy, Casablanca wala banda?
In my view HIGH NOON IS BEST WESTERN movie... The Wild Bunch would be at second place...
THE SEARCHER somewhere between first and second place...
I liked John Wayne too, Stagecoach... Casidy aur Kid wali abhi theek thak hi thi... Magnificent Seven was such a bad copy of Seven samurai... movie like Zorro don't have that old charm of westerns, too much action, too artificial plot... High Noon has only handful of shots in whole movie but its so intense and appealing... most intesting thing in western is Silence... In opening scene is Good Bad Ugly its takes 5 min before anyone speaks...

ok, I watched a western moive on TV long time back... I know part of the story and am searching for its name... tell me if it strikes you...
there are two guys(not gay, atleast they dont show in movie)... they roam in wild(ofcourse, what else you expect) and loot banks(that axiom or lemma of the cult)... one gets hurt, someone else's woman heals and they fall in love(am not sure, might be confused with some other movie, its all mixed up)... both go to bank and are trapped by police... no way to come out without getting killed and they know it, so one tells a joke to other and they come out to die and movie ends... at that time I liked it but it was average movie I guess...
I am desperately looking for title of one of the other movie.... A new sheriff gets tranferred to a remote sleepy town... town is crumbling under degrading culture of dacoits and sheriff faces these villians... I faintly remember it... gosh! my memory is fading away... movie is not as old as 60 or 70s...

will try Pale Rider.

-vinod
 
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Heh! Heh! (a huge grin):) ... awwwwww, now I was definitely not planning to make it some History classroom and going ballistic a la cranky professor (with falling off glasses and balding hairline) on some unsuspecting student; and so in 'retrospect' it was probably information overload on my part!!! :o

Don't worry; I have already had discussions with friends here on the same movie that did not like it for various reasons (some did not even go watch it after having read on gory details!)...so in the end: it is all good! You take back what you can...

DOR was amazing; I personally think that cameo by the guy (can't remember his name except it sounds like a girlish one ;) )...was the most refreshing i have ever seen. His relation with Gul was super cute!

Gul Panag (ex-Miss India, right?) is breath taking in her simple (minus any makeup) looks!!! And her acting prowess is delivered with such a punch!...
I understand from somewhere that it is a remake of a Southie movie, but dunno!

A very creative movie now doubt! (can just hope and against hope that PraveenTewatia ji is reading this!:D )
That director sure is making some movie milestones, indeed!

Hi Superman Hooda :) I am reading this stuff for sure. I didn't want to sound
critical yaar. And like I told Priti, it's a good thing she started. We all r getting to know 'bout a lot of lesser heard/ low key movies which r otherwise good through this. So no hard feelings ;) I guess. And I m gonna watch this DOR ASAP. Thanx.:D :D
 
Hi Superman Hooda :) I am reading this stuff for sure. I didn't want to sound critical yaar. And like I told Priti, it's a good thing she started. We all r getting to know 'bout a lot of lesser heard/ low key movies which r otherwise good through this. So no hard feelings ;) I guess. And I m gonna watch this DOR ASAP. Thanx.:D :D

Heh! Heh! Of course I too was just pulling your leg there, Praveen... so absolutely no hard feelings at all anywhere!
Go ahead and add some of your own fav titles that may well have gone unnoticed by some of us and we all would surely like to catch one of these days...(you see I for one am a super huge movie buff and this is easily my most favourite thread!)

Keep posting!!!
 
dont know if its a western...but i really liked 'O brother, where art thou'...would it be classified as a western?

ok, I watched a western moive on TV long time back... I know part of the story and am searching for its name... tell me if it strikes you...
there are two guys(not gay, atleast they dont show in movie)... they roam in wild(ofcourse, what else you expect) and loot banks(that axiom or lemma of the cult)... one gets hurt, someone else's woman heals and they fall in love(am not sure, might be confused with some other movie, its all mixed up)... both go to bank and are trapped by police... no way to come out without getting killed and they know it, so one tells a joke to other and they come out to die and movie ends... at that time I liked it but it was average movie I guess...
I am desperately looking for title of one of the other movie.... A new sheriff gets tranferred to a remote sleepy town... town is crumbling under degrading culture of dacoits and sheriff faces these villians... I faintly remember it... gosh! my memory of fading away... movie is not as old as 60 or 70s...

will try Pale Rider.

-vinod
 
Bhaiyon,

I luv the movie 'TERE NAAM' of Sallu.
Its indeed a creative movie...n sallu definatly deserved an oscar for that.
aint kiddin...I really liked the movie!!

Rock on
Jit
 
Much Ado about Nothing..

Gotta a chance to watch this version of timeless Shakespeare classic.

Wonderful romantic comedy – a great treat!!

Truly well made, the script shaved off though a great deal (did read the original text long back) but captures the play’s spirit beautifully.

Even those who have read and loved the classic masterpiece must watch it, simply because its hilarious, the manner the lines are spoken and expressed, is simply missing from the paper, the visual effect….gosh…..too good.
And then I enjoyed the style of the spoken English of those times, those “thee, thy and thou”…:D

Yes, saw "Dor" as well. Incredible movie!!!!! According to me, the best of Nagesh Kukoonoor so far. I was touched. A MUST WATCH, especially for the women folk out there!!


Found "Guru" (may be a biased opinion coz of the expectations attached with Mr. Ratnam) kind of pathetic save a couple of music numbers and Abhishek's acting skills which is definitely on a rising curve, would rate 6 on 10.
 
hummmm.....I'm curious if some of u've watched Russel Crowe's 'Cindrella Man' lately....if u've not u simply missed something.

Its an awesome boxing movie....really great, one of the all time best boxing movie. Certainly better then Rocky 6!

Rock on
Jit
 
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