Jats in Indian epics

Are there excesses on the Jatland pages? One will have to agree - yes!

Is some rubbish? The answer is yes.

Is it all or even most of rubbish? I would say, absolutely not!!

Specific criticism should be and is welcome!.

I had asked this question about 2 years ago and I am repeating it again.

Do we know where in Astadhayi, "jat jhat sanghate" exist.

Ashtadhayi is now a days available on internet and it is a small book or 30-40 pages. it should not be very difficult to find the above mentioned sutra.
 
Dear Prashantji

One may suggest that people should refrain from making such sweeping statements,

Narendra Kharb is a serious historian, and his comments are part of an ongoing discussion about Jat history, and are indeed very welcome. We are grateful and appreciative of his input.

Are there excesses on the Jatland pages? One will have to agree - yes!

Is some rubbish? The answer is yes.

Is it all or even most of rubbish? I would say, absolutely not!!

Specific criticism should be and is welcome!.

Sweeping generalities are quite unhelpful.

Prashantji, if you have specific criticisms, then do please put your comments with evidence and reasons forward and let us discuss them

I for one, will be glad to have someone correct my work!

Best regards


Ravi Chaudhary


PS: How far is Dhanaura Tikri from Shoram? have you visited the Sarv Khap Chaupal, and seen the records?

My apologies for the harsh words !!. I really appreciate the efforts of our respected jatland historians but is it wise to link each and everything in this world with jats without any "proof".... ???....."solid proof" is a term needs to be introduced later !!!
are u really able to swallow what have written about the ancient history ?" I am not objecting here about medieval or modern history but ancient history.....oh my god....so many contadictory statements made by same person. For sure, ppl will ask for the proof and you don't have to get annoyed but needs to pacify their curiousity...
I m not a hostorian but i do have interest in knowing our roots.....as far as ' sarv khap" and "shoram village" is concerned i know about that and i have not raised any issue regarding medieval history.....but i think that has nothing to do with ancient history , i say sorry again if i have hurt you.

Regards,
Prashant
 
Dear Prashant,

What you say is that most of the things written on jatland wiki abt jats history is indeed a crap!!

Have you tried to correct some of them based on your knowledge or commented on some articles' discussion page?

There is discussion page for each member and for each article. How much have you added to them?

If you have very clear ideas about Jat history then why do not contribute?

It is a combined effort. Mere criticism will do no good to jats or Jat history.

At least you write about your own Gotra vaidwan for which there is no entry on Jatland Wiki.

Regards,

I have a one-liner about our ancient history..."we are scythians , ferocious fighers of the world ". Please provide the proof if u degarde the statement

Regards,
Prashant
 
Dear Prashant,

jat History can not be a one liner one as you think. can you give some proofs about this statement. I could not make out from your word degarde. Can you clarify?


I have a one-liner about our ancient history..."we are scythians , ferocious fighers of the world ". Please provide the proof if u degarde the statement

Regards,
Prashant
 
Dear Parshant

My intention was never to belittle great efforts of our historians whom I respect from the core of my heart and I do know you too have regards for their efforts for our community.

My intention is very well explained by Ravi Ji and I can feel you too have same concern .

But It is also true that every thing is not black and white in our History and many times we have to derive it with the help of other supporting evidences .Here we need to be more cautious and rational in our approach .I feel Laxman ji ,Dudi ji Ravi ji and others are doing a great job in this regard and Myst over our past will clear soon.
 
Dear Prashant,

jat History can not be a one liner one as you think. can you give some proofs about this statement. I could not make out from your word degarde. Can you clarify?

respected burdak ji...i don't think u need it .i have already fedup seeing a lot of links underneath various posts:confused:....but i guess indo-scthiyan concept is supported by most of the foreign historians as well as by locals..most of the Punjabi jatts consider their lineage from the same...are jat and jatt different?

PS: it was degrade.:)
 
The Mahabharata Tribes and Jats

The Mahabharata Tribes and their probable relations with Jat and various Jat clans is given in an article created on Jatland Wiki. Read here:

http://www.jatland.com/home/The_Mahabharata_Tribes

Notes

1. The above English text used for study and research is mainly based on the book Adideo Arya Devata, A Panoramic view of Tribal-Hindu Cultural Interface by Sandhya Jain Published in 2004 by Rupa & Co, 7/16, Ansari Road, Daryaganj, New Delhi, who has based almost wholly on K.c. Mishra's exhaustive study Tribes in the Mahabharata. A Socio-Cultural Study, National Publishing House, Delhi, 1987.

2. Only the English text about each tribe before the sanskrit text is from above author. The sanskrit text has been compiled from Mahabharata Index Online - The Mahabharata of Krishna-Dwaipayana Vyasa, translated by Kisari Mohan Ganguli, published between 1883 and 1896 http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/mbs/index.htm

3. In each tribe entry, after the sanskrit text, identification with Jat Gotras has been done from Clan histories on Jatland Wiki.

4. Process of identification will still continue.

5. This article helps the readers to locate their clan during Mahabharata.

6. The Jat clans which find mention in Mahabharata have been categorized as The Mahabharata Tribes and Ancient Jat Gotras. If you click these categories you may find other tribes also under these.

7. This also proves that The Aryan invasion of India was a myth. Jats were the original inhabitants of India i.e. Bharatavarsha.
 
Jats in Ramayana period

Mention of Jat city in Ramayana period

In Sarg 42 of Kishkindha Kanda in Ramayana - Directions to Westward Party in search of Sita are given as under:

Then Sugriva went to his father-in-law and Tara's father Sushena. He greeted him and said to the great sage Maareech's son Archismaan who is like Indra and Garud in valor and the other son of Sage Maareech Archishmaalyaa - "You take 200,000 (2 lakh) Vanar under the leadership of Sushena and go to search Vaidehee in west, Sauraashtra and Chandrachitraa (present day Mathura) Desh. Search for Her in Kukshi Desh where beetle nut, Bakul and Uddaalk trees grow. There you will search Her in dry lands, waters, forests, mountains etc.

Further, you will find a sea (Arabian Sea) in which many sharks and crocodiles live in. Near that sea, you will find a forest where Ketakee, Tamaal, Kaarikel (coconut) trees grow. After that you will find Murachee and Jatapur cities. Next you go to Avanti (this Avantee is another Avantee), Anglepaa and Alakshitaa.

After this you will arrive at the mouth of River Indus (Sindhu). Near it is Hem Giri Parvat (Som Giri Parvat) which has numerous summits and on which there are many huge tall trees. Here live flying lions who take Timi named Matsya (fish or sharks) and elephant seals on the trees. You will search this mountain thoroughly.

Here we find mention of Jatapur means 'the city of Jats' near Avanti and after it lies Sindhu River.

किष्किन्धाकाण्डे द्विचत्वारिंशः सर्गः ॥४-४२॥ in Ramayana mentions Jat in Sanskrit as under:

वेलातल निवेष्टेषु पर्वतेषु वनेषु च ।
मुरची पत्तनम् चैव रम्यम् चैव जटा पुरम् ॥४-४२-१३॥

कपयो विहरिष्यन्ति नारिकेल वनेषु च ।
तत्र सीताम् च मार्गध्वम् निलयम् रावणस्य च ॥४-४२-१२॥

अवंतीम् अंगलेपाम् च तथा च अलक्षितम् वनम् ।
राष्ट्राणि च विशालानि पत्तनानि ततः ततः ॥४-४२-१४॥

सिंधु सागरयोः चैव संगमे तत्र पर्वतः ।
महान् हेम गिरिः नाम शत शृंगो महाद्रुमः ॥४-४२-१५॥
 
Jats are the earliest kshatriyas. The mention of Jat word by the famous Sanskrit scholar Panini of 900 BCE in his Sanskrit grammar known as Ashtādhyāyī in the form of shloka as जट झट संघाते or “Jat Jhat Sanghate”. Which means the terms 'Jat' and 'democratic federation' are synonymous. It proves that the Jats are the most ancient people.

Jats in Shiva Stotra

Shiva Stotra is another most ancient epic, which mentions one thousand names of Lord Shiva, also mentioned in ‘Shalya Parva’ of Mahabharata, in which one of the names of god is ‘Jat’ and appears at serial number 489. Mahabharata Anushasan Parva chapter 17 shloka 89 reads as under:

महानखो, महारोमा, महाकोशो, महाजट: Mahānakho, Mahāromā, Mahākosho, Mahājata

प्रसन्नश्च, प्रसादश्च, प्रत्यो, गिरिसाधन: Prasannasha, Prasādasha, Pratyo, Girisādhana

Meaning - Mahanakha, Maharoma, Mahakosha, Mahajata, Prasanna, Prasada, Pratyaya, Girisadhana are the names of Lord Ishvara.

How old is Jat

According to an ancient story Brahma appointed Kartikeya as the commander of all the beings. Kartikeya got various gifts out of which there was a lord of all commanders named ‘Jat’. (Mahabharata Shalya Parva chapter 44 and 45). The shloka reads as under:

अक्ष: सन्तर्जनो राजन् कुन्दीकश्च तमोन्नकृत । Akshah santarjano rājana kundīkashcha tamonnakrita

एकाक्षो द्वादशक्षश्च तथैवैक जट: प्रभु ।। ५८ ।। Ekaksho dvadashkshashcha tathaivaika jatah prabhu

Meaning – Aksha, Santarjana, Kundika, Tamonnakrata, Ekaksha, dvadasha, and a ‘Jat’ lord of all (O Rajana ! gifted to swami Kartikeya)

It is believed in Hindu mythology that Brahma was the creator of the universe. As per Hindu cosmology the period of creation of the universe by Brahma was 1,97,29,49,108 years back in samvat 2063 (2006). It means the word ‘Jat’ is as old as the universe. [1]

Jats in Rigveda

Jats find a mention in most ancient Indian literature. Over sixty clans are named in the Rig Veda.[2] In the Mahabharata as they are mentioned ‘Jartas’ in ‘Karna Parva’. The famous Sanskrit scholar Panini]] of 900 BCE has mentioned in his Sanskrit grammar known as Ashtyāyī in the form of shloka as जट झट संघाते or “Jat Jhat Sanghate”. This means that the terms 'Jat' and 'democratic federation' are synonymous. He has mentioned many Jat clans as settled in Punjab and North west areas.

Jats in Grammar of Chandra

Jats are mentioned in the grammar treatise of Chandra of the fifth century in the phrase sentence अजय जर्टो हुणान or “Ajay Jarto Hunān, which refers to the defeat of Huns by the Jats under the leadership of Yasodharman. The inscription of Mandsaur also indicates that Yasodharman, the ruler of Malwa, was a Jat of the Virk gotra ( clan). [3]

Jats in the Deva Samhitā

There is mention of Jats in “Deva Samhitā” [4] in the form of powerful rulers over vast plains of Central Asia. For example in the 'Deva Samhitā' of Gorakh Sinha from the early medieval period, when Pārvatī asks Shiva about characters of Jats, Shiva tells her like this in sanskrit shloka-15 as under:

महाबला महावीर्या, महासत्य पराक्रमाः Mahābalā mahāvīryā, Mahāsatya parākramāh

सर्वाग्रे क्षत्रिया जट्टा देवकल्पा दृढ़-व्रता: Sarvāgre kshatriyā jattā Devkalpā dridh-vratāh

Meaning - 'They are, like gods, firm of determination and of all the Warriors, the Jats are the prime rulers of the earth.'

Shiva explains Parvati about the origin of Jats in Shloka –16 of Deva samhita:

श्रृष्टेरादौ महामाये वीर भद्रस्य शक्तित: hrishterādau mahāmāye Virabhadrasya shaktitah

कन्यानां दक्षस्य गर्भे जाता जट्टा महेश्वरी Kanyānām Dakshasya garbhe jātā jatta maheshwarī.

Meaning – 'In the beginning of the universe with the personification of the illusionary powers of Virabhadra and Daksha’s daughtergana's womb originated the caste of Jats'.

In the shloka-17 of 'Deva Samhitā' when Pārvatī asks about the origin of Jats, Shiva tells Parvati that:

गर्व खर्चोत्र विग्राणां देवानां च महेश्वरी Garva kharchotra vigrānam devānām cha maheshwarī

विचित्रं विस्मयं सत्वं पौराण कै साङ्गीपितं Vichitram vismayam satvam Pauran kai sāngīpitam

Meaning - 'The history of origin of Jats is extremely wonderful and their antiquity glorious. The Pundits of history did not record their annals lest it should injure and impair their false pride and of the vipras and gods. We describe that realistic history before you'.

Etymology of the word "Jat"

The most acceptable theory about the origin of the word, 'Jat' is that it has originated from the Sanskrit language word “Gyat” . The Mahabharata mentions in chapter 25, shloka 26 that Lord Krishna founded a federation ‘Gana-sangha’ of the Andhak and Vrishni clans. This federation was known as ‘Gyati-sangh’. Every member of this sangha was called Gyat.
over a period of time due to linguistic variaions it became Jat. [5]

The other prominent theory of the word's origins is that Jat came from the word Gaut tribal name of some Indo-Aryan tribes of Central Asia (such as those which later became Gauts/Goths and settled in Europe), which was written in 'Jattan Da Ithihas'. It has also been mentioned by Bhim Singh Dahiya. [6]

According to the historian 'Ram Lal Hala' the word Jat is drived from word 'Yat'. There was a king named 'Yat' in Chandra Vanshi clan who was ancestor of Lord Krishna. The Jats are descendants of King Yat. 'Yat' later changed to 'Jat'.[7]

Need to search epics

Since the word Jat existed from the beginning of the universe it must find place in various Indian epics. The main Indian epics worth mentioning are as follows: Vedas (Rigveda, Yjurveda, Samaveda, Athavaveda), Samhitas, Brahmanas, Aranyakas, Upanishadas, Vedanga (Shiksha, Chandas, Vyakarnas, Nirukta, Jyotisha, Kalpa), Mahabharata, Ramayana, Purana, Smriti, Bhagvadgita, Panchatantra, Kumar Vyasa Bharata, Stotra, Ramacharitamanas.

I searched some of the Indian and Hindu epics and produced as above some examples about the antiquity existence of word Jat and the history of Jats. It will be of great help to find more literature and linkages with the Jat history. In addition to the Hindu literature and epics the Buddhist and Jain books also have a great treasure about Jat history, not explored so far. Thus there is a need to research these sacred epics if we have to reconstruct the true Jat history.

References

1. Dr Mahendra Singh Arya, Dharmpal Singh Dudu, Kishan Singh Faujdar & Vijendra Singh Narwar, Adhunik Jat Itihasa, Agra 1998
2. Bhim Singh Dahiya, Aryan Tribes and the Rig Veda, Dahinam Publishers, 16 B Sujan Singh Park, Sonepat, Haryana,India,1991
3. CV Vaidya, History of Medieval Hindu India
4. Thakur Deshraj, Jat Itihas (Hindi), Maharaja Suraj Mal Smarak Shiksha Sansthan, Delhi, 1934, 2nd edition 1992 page 87-88.
5. Dr Natthan Singh, Jat-Itihas, (Jat History), page-41:Jat Samaj Kalyan Parishad, F-13, Dr Rajendra Prasad Colony, Tansen marg, Gwalior, M.P, India 474 002 2004
6. Bhim Singh Dahiya, Jats the Ancient Rulers, Dahinam Publishers, Sonepat, Haryana
7. Ram Lal Hala, Jat Kshatriya Itihas

what??rigved main jat clans mentioned hai.....impossible.
rigved main kisi jaati, samaj, desh, mahapurush ka itihaas nahi hai. forget about jat gotras mentioned in rigved. ved ka meaning itni asani se nahi pata lagta. is mantra ka asli meaning janne ke liye swami dayanand saraswati ka rigved par bhashya pariye. apni taraf se hum kuch bhi meaning nikaal den, yetheek nahi hai
 
Jarta (जर्त) or Jartika (जर्तिक) or Jarttika (जर्तिक) Jarita (जरित) is one of The Mahabharata Tribes, living in ancient time in the vicinity of Sakala and who are mentioned in the Karna Parva of the Mahabharata. (VIII.30.14)

Some historians have propagated a theory of origin of Jats from Jartas based on similarity of sound of Jat, Jarta and Jartrika. This theory has been rejected by Jat historians like Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria). He writes that just as the later Kushan-Saka-Jats were assimilated with the aboriginal Jats, so might have Jartas been absorbed into them. [1]

Meaning of Jarta

Jat historian Atal Singh Khokhar , author of the book on Jat history in Hindi - "Jāton kī Utpati evam Vistār (Jarta taranginī)" जाटों की उत्पत्ति एवं विस्तार (जर्त तरंगिणी), 2002, writes that those who produced food after irrigating the earth with water were known as Jats (Jarita).

Bhim Singh Dahiya quotes the commentary on Unadi Sutra (V.52), the meaning of the word Jarta as roma, i.e. hair. Durga Simha (7th century AD)says, "Jartah Dīrgharoma" , i.e. the Jats have long hair. This meaning has obviously been given because traditionally the jats kept long hair on the heads and also had beards. [2] He further writes quoting Jain author vardhamana who mentions Sakas and Jartas in 1197 vikram era i.e. 1139-40 AD.[3] He writes that the word jat however, is not an apabhransha of Jarta. Jarta itself is sanskritized form of Jat, in the same manner as Gujars are named Jurjara and Munda made into Murunda. [4]

Jarita in Rigveda

Rigveda (X.27.1), (III.15.5), (VIII.100.4) mention about the tribe Jarita (जरित).

असत सु मे जरितः साभिवेगो यत सुन्वते यजमनय शिक्षम |
अनाशीर्दामहमस्मि परहन्ता सत्यध्व्र्तं वर्जिनायन्तमाभुम || Rigveda (X.27.1)[5]

asat su me jaritaḥ sābhivegho yat sunvate yajamanaya śikṣam |
anāśīrdāmahamasmi prahantā satyadhvṛtaṃ vṛjināyantamābhum || Rigveda (X.27.1)

अछिद्रा शर्म जरितः पुरूणि देवानछा दीद्यानः सुमेधाः |
रथो न सस्निरभि वक्षि वाजमगने तवं रोदसीनः सुमेके || Rigveda (III.15.5)

achidrā śarma jaritaḥ purūṇi devānachā dīdyānaḥ sumedhāḥ |
ratho na sasnirabhi vakṣi vājamaghne tvaṃ rodasīnaḥ sumeke ||

अयमस्मि जरितः पश्य मेह विश्वा जातान्यभ्यस्मि मह्ना |
रतस्य मा परदिशो वर्धयन्त्यादर्दिरो भुवना दर्दरीमि || Rigveda (VIII.100.4)

ayamasmi jaritaḥ paśya meha viśvā jātānyabhyasmi mahnā |
ṛtasya mā pradiśo vardhayantyādardiro bhuvanā dardarīmi || Rigveda (VIII.100.4)

Jarta in Mahabharata

Jartikas are are mentioned in the Karna Parva of the Mahabharata. (VIII.30.14)

शाकलं नाम नगरम आपगा नाम निम्नगा
जर्तिका नाम बाह्लीकास तेषां वृत्तं सुनिन्थितम [6]

śākalaṃ nāma nagaram āpagā nāma nimnagā
jartikā nāma bāhlīkās teṣāṃ vṛttaṃ suninditam ...Mahabharata (VIII.30.14)

The Mahabharata contains several chapters, devoted to the description of the different tribes of the punjab and Sindh-the home of the Jat people within historic times. A people known as Jartikas is mentioned along with the Madrakas-both called Bahikas. The acrimonious reply of Karna to Shalya, king of Madrakas contains a graphic in Karna Parva Mahabharata through distorted picture of the habits and character of these people. [7] K R Qanungo mentions incidence from Mahabharata that there is a town named Sakala and river named Apaga where section of the Bahikas, known as the Jartikas, dwell. Their character is very repressible.He mentions about a Bahika who had to sojourn for a time in Kuru-jungal country sang the following song about the women of his country:

"Though a Bahika, I am at present an exile in Kuru-jangal country; that tall and fair-complexioned wife of mine, dressed in her fine blanket certainly remenbers me when she retires to rest. Oh! when shall I go back to my country crossing again the Satadru (the Sutlej) and Iravati and see beautiful females of fair complexion, wearing stout bangles, dressed in blanket and skins, eye-sides coloured with dye of Manshila, forehead, cheek and chin painted wit collyrium (tatooing ?). When shall we eat under the pleasant shade of Shami, Peelu and Karir, loaves and balls of fried barley powder with waterless churned curd (kunjik), and gathering strength, take away the clothes of the wayfarers and beat them?" [8]

Theory of origin of Jats from Jarta

Theory of origin of Jats from Jartas is the theory proposed by some historians based on similarity of sound of Jat, Jarta and Jartrika. Campbell and Grierson [9] are the pioneer linguists who probably find the earliest notice of the Jats in the Jarttikas of the Sanskrit literature. Prof. Lassen [10] and Cunningham [11], also did not lag behind to identify them with the Jarttikas . But the chief exponent of the theory is C. V. Vaidya who asserts that the Jats are the Jarttikas or Jartas, living in ancient time in the vicinity of Sakala and who are mentioned in the Karna Parva of the Mahabharata. He writes, [12]

"Of the three communities i.e. the Marathas, Rajputs, and (Gujars) the Jats are the oldest. They are mentioned in the Mahabharat as Jartas. Their first mention is in the sentence ajay jarto hunan in the grammar of Chandra of the fifth century A.D. Their ethnological characteristics, i.e. their fair complexion, tall stature, high nose and long head, clearly show that they are Aryans. The innate sense of caste prejudice in India has greatly prevented the mixture of races and the Jats have preserved their blood almost uncontaminated. Though treated as Shudra by modem opinion owing to their being agriculturists and their practice of widow marriage, they are the purest Aryans in India and belong to the first race of Aryan invaders, according to our view, the Solar race of Aryans who originally settled in the Panjab". [13]

Dr. Siddhantashastree [14] and Dr. B.N. Puri [15] also connect the Jats with the Jartas or Jarttikas of the Epic . Bhim Singh Dahiya [16] concedes that Jat is as good a Prakrit form of the Sanskritised Jarta as Gujar is of Gurjara. Yet another historian of the Jats, Lt. Ram Swarup Joon [17] for whom they are the descendants of the Lunar race of Aryans, believes that all the twelve Bahika tribes, including the Jarttikas, though ungracefully depicted in the Karna Parva, do prove the existence of the Jats (Jarttikas) in the Punjab at the time of Mahabharata. The Jats were known as DJats [18] in the ancient Arab world. The Encyclopaedia of Islam [19] also identifies them with the Jartas who were the Middle Indo-Aryans of post-Sanskritic Indian origin in the Punjab and Sindh. [20]


The staunchest adherent of the theory is perhaps Buddha Prakash. He not only harps on the tune of C.V. Vaidya, but also furnishes additional information regarding the Jarttika, the alleged ancestors of the Jats. He [21] writes,

"It appears that the advent of the Jarttikas or Jartas, who are identical with the Iatii, who together with the Takhoroi, lived near the northern section of the Jaxartes around Taskend, according to Ptolemy, and whose modern descendants, called the Jats, are spread over the whole of the Panjab and mainly responsible for the outlandish features of the Madras, These Jartas were alien to Indian culture, as is manifest from the tone of denunciation, in which their habit of drinking wine, fermented from jaggery and rice, and eating beef with garlic in the form of rolls and chops, is referred to in the Mababharata. As a result of these tribal admixtures, the Madras suffered a setback in the estimation of the orthodox people". [22]

Buddha Prakash [23] continues further that:

"in the beginning centuries of the first millennium B.C. the Jartas and Abhiras spread in the Panjab and caused a degeneration in the morals and manners of its people. In the post-Vedic period, the Jartas had moved into the Panjab and occupied the Madra capital Sakala... In the opinion of Rawlinson [24], they were identical with the Saka people called Jata or Gata. They were divided into two branches, the Massagetae (big Gata-Jata) and Thyssagetae (small Gata-Jata). Their western wing migrated into Europe and came to be known as Goth and eastern branch descended into India and was called Jarta. Their modern representatives are the Jats, who constitute the backbone of the people of the Panjab". [25]

Buddha Prakash [26] also says "a group of Scytho-Iranian tribes, viz. the Arjunayana, Virka, Yaudheya, Balhikas, etc. were penetrating into Punjab in that very period. The Balhikas are said to be offspring of the Pisachas, A variant of Balhika is Valhika in the Mahabharata and another is Vahika". [27]

Panini [28] uses the term Vahika for the whole of the Punjab up to the confines of Usinara. Katayana [29] derives Vahika from 'bahi' (outside) and considers the Vahika country outside the pale of Brahmanical society. The Epic Mahabharata[30] also follows this etymology and all the people of this country were called Vahikas. These people are said to be offspring of two demons, Bahi and Heeka or Hika, residing in the Vipasa river and are denounced in the Mahabharata [31]. [32]
 
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Coming now to the contemporary evidence of the classical period during which the Mahabharata was mainly interpolated, we know that it is not deficient to thwart the claim of the authors of the Mahabharata and that of the later writers who propagated the flimsy picture of the Vahika tribes. General Chesney [33] informs us that "the Greeks were loud in praise of the Indians; never in all their eight years of constant warfare had they met with such skilled and gallant soldiers, who, moreover, surpassed in stature and bearing all the other races or Asia .... The Indian village community flourished even at the distant period, and in the brave and manly race which fought so stoutly under Poros twenty two centuries ago we may recognise all the fine qualities of the Panjabi agrarian people of the present day, the gallant who fought us in our turn so stubbornly, and now the most valuable component of the Indian empire, and the best soldiers of its Queen Empress'. This reference, undoubtedly, points to "the accursed" Ayudhajivi ganas of the Bahikadesa and their descendants, the Jats.[34]

External sources on Jartas

It is worth mentioning that some external sources also throw light on the Jartas, but they neither connect them with Jartikkas or Madras, nor do they denounce them. Pliny [35] the Elder, a Roman scholar (AD 23-79) places Garatae Jartas in the level country of Amanda near Taxila [36] Ptolemy [37] also refers to Zaratoi of Indo-Scythian in in Lower Indus, which to N L De [38] lies near Jalandhar. These sources establish the existence of the Jarta in Panjab and Sindh, but they do not speak adversely of them. Rather, the Bahikas are admired "for decorous behaviour and good ways of life [39]". Strabo [40] and Mgagasthenes [41] found them "simple and frugal,orderly in behaviour, observing self restraint in theft and not given to drinking except at sacrifices'. Diodorus [42] found them governed by laws in the highest degree salutary and their political system as one to admire; beauty was held among them in the highest estimation in preference to dowry etc." and "the inhabitants of these cities (Sangala or Sakala)" are generally held "in higher estimation than the rest of their countrymen". [43]

Theory of origin of Jats from Jarta rejected

Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria) sums up the discussion on the theory: it may, in capsule, be remarked that the version of the Mahabharata, regarding the Jarttikas and their gloomy picture, cannot be considered reliable because of its more-than one redactions, revisions and interpolations at different times by different scholars with vested interests. The contention of scholars, who question the very existence of the Jarttikas and Sakala at the time of the Epic war, cannot be dismissed lightly and deserves further investigations. The evidence from other sources pertaining to the contemporary period, during which the Great Epic is believed to have been largely interpolated, not only does not support the calumny but, on the other hand, it forcefully contradicts the picture purporting to assassinate the character of the Vahika warrior tribes, the progenitors of the Jats. Modern scholars, who have burnt mid-night oil in making an intensive as well as extensive study of the Great Epic and of the position and status of women in the Heroic Age of Indian history, are not found wanting in rejecting the nefarious depiction of the Vahika women as absurd and preposterous. The purpose of the theory, instead of tracing the origin of the Jats, was threefold i.e. primarily to represent the Jats as outlanders (Vahikas or Bahikas) in the sense that they hailed from other adjoining countries whereas they are, being the purest Aryan, the autochthons in India; secondly to denounce them perpetually in popular estimation, by identifying them with the obnoxiously painted Jarttika or Jartas, as fallen and degenerated as depicted in the great epic; thirdly to denounce the ancestors of the present Jats for adopting Buddhism and for not submitting to the yoke of brahmanism which after its revival sought to impose on them in ancient period. A clever play upon words with similar sounds has been made to conceal the truth, which cannot be easily understood by common man. [44]

Even if we accept the identification of the modern Jats with the ancient Jarttikas or Jartas, we, as noticed above, find the life and character of the two people poles apart. In all probability the Jartas were followers of Zoroastara (Zaratushtra = Zarat + ushtra, Traraaporevala, 1951: 73f and Rahurkar, 1964: 130) who, as informed by Max Muller [45] , before their schism with the followers of Vedic religion, "were a colony from northern India and who were Ahura Worshippers". The coins of Kanishka [46] present besides others the Zoroastrian gods also. We have every reason to gather from it that some of the Zoroasstrians must also be in the Panjab and Sindh during his reign. Like the Sakas and Kushanas they must have been naturally denigrated by the champions of the Brahmanical faith. Just as the later Kushan-Saka-Jats were assimilated with the aboriginal Jats, so might have Jartas been absorbed into them. But we must remember that the Jarta admixture is something different from Jarta origin of the Jats. Hence, the theory is rejected as much a futile effort as the scaling of the height of the Everest by a blind with a raw cotton thread."[47]

References

1. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 61
2. ↑ Bhim Singh Dahiya : Jats, the Ancient Rulers, A clan study in the Pre Islamic period, 1982, Sterling Publishers New Delhi, p.22
3. ↑ Ganaratna Mahodahi, karika 201
4. ↑ Bhim Singh Dahiya : Jats, the Ancient Rulers, A clan study in the Pre Islamic period, 1982, Sterling Publishers New Delhi, p.22-23
5. ↑ The Rig Veda in Sanskrit
6. ↑ Mahabharata Karna Parva (VIII.30.14)
7. ↑ K R Qanungo:History of the Jats, Ed Dr Vir Singh, 2003, p.6
8. ↑ K R Qanungo:History of the Jats, Ed Dr Vir Singh, 2003, p.7
9. ↑ K R Qanungo:History of the Jats, Ed Dr Vir Singh, 2003, p.6
10. ↑ Archeological Survey Report of India, Vol. 11, 1863-64, p. 3
11. ↑ Anc. Geog. of Ind., 1924, Calcutla, p. 696
12. ↑ His. of Med. Hindu Ind., Vol. I, 1979, N. Delhi, pp. 86 ff
13. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 40
14. ↑ Correspondence with author-Hukum Singh Pawar
15. ↑ Ind. in the Time of Patanjali, 1957, Bombay, p. 77. But he d ~s not hold the Jarttikas as Jats
16. ↑ Jats (The Ancient Rulers), 1983, Delhi, pp. 22f
17. ↑ History of Jats, 1967, Delhi, p. 15. I
18. ↑ Strange, G. Le.; Eastern Caliphate, 1966, London, pp. 244 331. Westphal- Hellbusch
19. ↑ Ency. of Islam, Vol. 11. p. 488. I
20. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 40
21. ↑ Pol. & Soc. Movements in Anc. Pb. 1964, Delhi, pp. 114,2.)1.
22. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 41
23. ↑ Ibid. pp. 219, 243, 251.
24. ↑ History of Herodotus, Vol. III, pp. 185,209. ii.
25. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 41
26. ↑ Buddha Prakash, op. cit., pp. 135f
27. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 41
28. ↑ Ashtadhyayi, IV, 2,117-118; V. 3, 114
29. ↑ Buddha Prakash, op.cit., pp. 136
30. ↑ Mahabharata, VIII, 44
31. ↑ Infra
32. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 41
33. ↑ McCrindle, J.W., Ancient India (New Ed.) New Delhi,p.345
34. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 54
35. ↑ Majumdar R C, Classical Accounts of India,p.345
36. ↑ Pliny, VI.23,ASR, Vol.II,1863,p.6
37. ↑ Ancient India As described by Ptolemy, ed. McCrindle rep. by Surendra Nath Majumdar, Calcutta 1927
38. ↑ Majumdar,op.cit.,p.373
39. ↑ Satya Shrava, Saka in India, New Delhi,1981,p.5
40. ↑ Strabo, Bk. XV.1.53,54-59, Q, by Majumdar RC, Clasical Accounts of India, pp. 269-75
41. ↑ Ibid. History and Culture of Indian people, vol.II (The Age of Imperial Unity), p.69
42. ↑ Majumdar, op.cit., p.170-171. Jayaswal,op.cit., p.56
43. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 54
44. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, pp. 60-61
45. ↑ Science of Language, Vol.II, p.279 (5th ed.)
46. ↑ Upadhyay, Bhagwan Saran, Feeders of Indian Culture,PPH, New Delhi, 1973, p.172
47. ↑ Hukum Singh Pawar (Pauria): The Jats - Their Origin, Antiquity and Migration (1993), Publisher - Manthan Publications Rohtak, ISBN-8185235-22-8, p. 61
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Luxmanji


So was there a tribe known as " jartas" or not?

In the MBH, there is some question as to whom Karan is referring to!

What you are looking is at a late entry, an addition to the MBH, done probably in the 18th century or so. The earlier version of the MBH does not contain this comment from Karan or refer to the Jartas.

You are unnecessarily giving prominence and legitimacy to this silly 18th century theory.

My humble suggestion is that you delete the entire article



Ravi Chaudhary
 
This topic had been discussed in the Jathistory group, a few years ago.

I am reproducing the entire post for ease of reference

Ravi Chaudhary

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHistory/message/399


Re: Jartikas

--- In JatHistory@yahoogroups.com, "adhin88" <adhin88@h...> wrote:

In the Mahabharata, we get this information on the Jartikas in
Karna Parvan, XLIV (translation Ganguli):


They are Panjabi people, a clan belonging to the Vahikas. The Vahikas
are close to the Madrakas, whose capital is Shakala, near the river
Apaga. The five Panjabi rivers (Panchanada) are described, and the
name of Aratta-Vahikas is mentioned.

The Jartikas are cleary called "a clan of the Vahikas' in the
translation! http://www.yorku.ca/inpar/karna_ganguli.pdf

Most scholars regard Jartikas as people or clan.

The section in the MBh edition as translated, has very infavourable
words about many Indian clans, like the Madras and Bahikas. It seems
that the later editors have had tremendous influence on the colouring
of the epic. Clans who were very learned and in high esteem from
ancient times, have got some bad critics later on.
As the word Aratta for the Panjab is fairly 'new', which is attested
in the Sumerian period of the 3rd millennium BC, the unfavourable
colouring in the later editions may have occurred from perhaps around
this time, close to 2000 BC, by people who were outside the Indus
cities, further east in Gangetic.

regards,
Ishwa



Or another way to interpret the same data.

The Karna Parva has been analysed and scrutinized by a number of
historians, two of whom were Thakur Desraj and Professor Hukam Singh
Pauria.

1) MBH DOES NOT KNOW THIS TERM JARTA TILL AFTER 1850 AD

The MBH was a text that has rewritten and rewritten many times, and
was still being re written in the late 18th century.

Desraj does not find the tribe JARTA or Jartika anywhere in the Jai
or the Bharat, the two earlier pre cursors to the Mahabharata. Robert
Schafer who studied the various recessions of the MBH from 1452 Ad to
1959 AD , including the critical edition, does not find any mention
of the Jartas or Jartikas anywhere

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It would then be clear that this was late post 1850 AD interpolation.

Desraj, Niranjan Singh , also take the word to be a name of a person
not that of a tribe.

2) CUSTOMS OF THE MADRAS OF PUNJAB ARE VEDIC NOT BRAHMINIC

The quote itself from the MBH


" There is a town named Sakala and a river name Abaga, where a
section of the Bahikas known as the . Jartikas dwell….

…among the Bahikas, one at first becomes a Brahman, then a
Ksathriya, them a Vaish then a Shudra or a barber, then again a
Brahman and gin a slave."'

Sakala is identified with the Sakala or Sialkot by Cunningham, and
according to Panini it is Kathas a stronghold hold of the Kathoi, in
the Jhang district of Punjab. In the Buddhist period Sakala is found
as the capital of the Madra -s

From the above it is fairly clear that the Madras did not follow the
late -Hindu Caste system.

3) The Madra-s are Jats, and only one of the many clans of the Jats.
It only stands to reason that a sub section of a clan cannot become
the mother clan or tribe.


4) the clash was between Ideas, the rising tide of noveau Hinduism
against the Vedic and Buddhist leanings of the people of the Punjab.

5) the words are ascribed to Karna in the MBH, and by its many
authors all writing under the pseudonym Sauti Ugrashava.

Karna when he degrades the Madras in his diatribe, claims he heard
this about the Madras from a Brahmin, who had visited the country of
the Madras, and spoke of his travels to the land of te Madra-s at
the Court of the Kauravs.


Desraj takes the word to be a proper name , of a Rishi of the
times , named Jaritha or Jarathkas. This person was a Rishi of those
times, and a bit of a womanizer.

This version was not composed by Vyas but by Sauti, who was the third
author( Plural) of the MBH. Sauti was born in the Buddhist period,
and was probably very anti Jain. Sauti composed this story to
denigrate the Jain Raja Jarathkumar. According to C V Vaidya there
were three composers of the MBH, 10 Krishna Dvaipana Vyas, 2)
Vasimpana 3) Sauti.

After the 'War" Vyas composed JAI, then Vasiampyana composed
Bharata, and recited the Bharata to Janamjaya after his war against
the Nag ( Snake) people.() another Jat clan), and then later, Sauti
son of Suth Lamoaharshan, recited the Mahabharata .

( However since the MBH was revised right upto the 19th century AD
these dates much must be taken with a pinch of salt.).

The Sauti authors extended to MBH to 100,000 verses. The Jai had 8000
verses, the Bharata 24,000 verses.

The Sauti version had 18 chapters .

At the time of the composition of the MBH there was much clash
between the Jain, Buddhism and the noveau Hindu religions. To further
the Hinduism side Sauti denigrated all followers of other
religions.
 
Raviji,

I have discussed this theory in totality taking views of various authors and highlighted the section - Theory of origin of Jats from Jarta rejected. I think this was thought necessary to remove confusions. As not much content is available on internet about this Mahabharata tribe.

The tribe was very much there as it mentioned both in Rigveda and Mahabharata. We have discussed both.

We had discussed on Jat History Yahoo groop as under:

"MBH DOES NOT KNOW THIS TERM JARTA TILL AFTER 1850 AD

The MBH was a text that has rewritten and rewritten many times, and
was still being re written in the late 18th century.

Desraj does not find the tribe JARTA or Jartika anywhere in the Jai
or the Bharat, the two earlier pre cursors to the Mahabharata. Robert
Schafer who studied the various recessions of the MBH from 1452 Ad to
1959 AD , including the critical edition, does not find any mention
of the Jartas or Jartikas anywhere."

To reveal the true picture we have taken this part of Karna Parva on Jatland Wiki which can be seen here:

http://www.jatland.com/home/Karna_Parva/Mahabharata_Book_VIII_Chapter_30

Now we see a difference if you compare Sanskrit version and English version. Sanskrit version has Balhika and Jartas mentioned but missing in English Versions. This section reveals conflict between various clans regarding social status and therefore is very importanr for research purpose. See a quote from above link:

"Brahman created the brahmanas from his mouth, and the kshatriyas from his arms. He created the Vaishyas from his thighs and the Shudras from his feet. In consequence of the intermixture of those four orders, O Bharata, from those four have sprung particular classes, viz., those born of men of superior classes wedding women of classes inferior to themselves, and vice versa. The kshatriyas have been described to be protectors (of the other classes) acquirers of wealth and givers of the same. The brahmanas have been established on the Earth for the sake of favouring its people by assisting at sacrifices, by teaching and acceptance of pure gifts. Agriculture and tending of cattle and gift are the occupations of the Vaishyas according to the scriptures. Shudras have been ordained to be the servants of the brahmanas, the kshatriyas, and the vaishyas. Similarly, the Sutas are the servants of kshatriyas, and not latter the servants of the former.

Regards,
 
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Raviji,

I have discussed this theory in totality taking views of various authors and highlighted the section - Theory of origin of Jats from Jarta rejected. I think this was thought necessary to remove confusions. As not much content is available on internet about this Mahabharata tribe.

The tribe was very much there as it mentioned both in Rigveda and Mahabharata. We have discussed both.

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I think you are missing the point.

The Mahabharat (MBH) reference is faulty.

It is a forgery, not there in other earlier versions of the Mahabharat

That would be debunking the issue, and bringing out clearly what needs to be said.

Your article has become simply a collection of various views, with no clear beginning or end.

You perhaps do not see it, but your article is very confusing.

and

It defeats our objective, which is to get a lucid history of our people out there.

Please think about deleting the article and starting fresh

We appreciate the hard work you are doing. Your putting Joon's book in HTML format is one of them.

We are very grateful for that


So please do not take my suggestions as any king of personal criticism of you


I have suggested before, and will do so again, that you should put your articles up for peer review by others, before you put them up on the websites, here and on wiki


Best regards


Ravi Chaudhary
 
Kalkhanda Clan in Mahabharata

Virata Parva, Mahabharata/ Book IV Chapter 12 shloka 13 mentions Kalkhanda as Kalakhanjas Asuras endued with huge bodies and great prowess.

तत्र मल्लाः समापेतुर थिग्भ्यॊ राजन सहस्रशः
महाकाया महावीर्याः कालखञ्जा इवासुराः Mahabharata (IV.12.13)

tatra mallāḥ samāpetur digbhyo rājan sahasraśaḥ
mahākāyā mahāvīryāḥ kālakhañjā ivāsurāḥ Mahabharata (IV.12.13)

Note - Here Asura may not be taken otherwise as Asura or Ahura is Iranian God.

You can see more on Jatland Wiki at

http://www.jatland.com/home/Virata_Parva,_Mahabharata/_Book_IV_Chapter_5
 
Virata Parva, Mahabharata/ Book IV Chapter 12 shloka 13 mentions Kalkhanda as Kalakhanjas Asuras endued with huge bodies and great prowess.

तत्र मल्लाः समापेतुर थिग्भ्यॊ राजन सहस्रशः
महाकाया महावीर्याः कालखञ्जा इवासुराः Mahabharata (IV.12.13)

tatra mallāḥ samāpetur digbhyo rājan sahasraśaḥ
mahākāyā mahāvīryāḥ kālakhañjā ivāsurāḥ Mahabharata (IV.12.13)

Note - Here Asura may not be taken otherwise as Asura or Ahura is Iranian God.

You can see more on Jatland Wiki at

http://www.jatland.com/home/Virata_Parva,_Mahabharata /_Book_IV_Chapter_5


How do you derive Khankhanda from Khalkanja?

How does the J transform to a D?



Ravi Chaudhary
 
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