Parliament Elections 2009@ Your Views n Votes!!

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  • UPA/ Manmohan Singh

    Votes: 23 32.4%
  • NDA/ LK Advani

    Votes: 21 29.6%
  • Mayawati

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Prakash Karat

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Narendra Modi

    Votes: 24 33.8%
  • Lalu Prasad Yadav

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • Any other alliance after the elections results

    Votes: 1 1.4%

  • Total voters
    71
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@Gajender:- Sir, I expected you to mention more details with much valid reasons as you seem to be a learned person with political knoweledge.

Terrorism:-Remember Kandhar, Attack on Parliament.

Reservation:-Jats from Haryana( Delhi already is in) also fighting for Reservation.So would it be good for them?

God/Ram:- Is He the sole property of any party like BJP,RSS, Congress, Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal?

People are waiting for your more points.From both point of views.Thanks for you present input.
sir,
you mentioned Kandhar kand. i also think it was a shame for nation. but was it realy failure of NDA? i am not agree.I suggest u to read this article written by KANCHAN GUPTA.

http://www.dailypioneer.com/DisplayContent.aspx?ContentID=145600&URLName=The-truth-behind-Kandahar

I am pasting some lines here also.
No senior Minister in the CCS was willing to meet the families. Mr Jaswant Singh volunteered to do so. He asked me to accompany him to the canopy under which the families had gathered. Once there, we were literally mobbed. He tried to explain the situation but was shouted down.

“We want our relatives back. What difference does it make to us what you have to give the hijackers?” a man shouted. “We don’t care if you have to give away Kashmir,” a woman screamed and others took up the refrain, chanting: “Kashmir de do, kuchh bhi de do, hamare logon ko ghar wapas lao.” Another woman sobbed, “Mera beta… hai mera beta…” and made a great show of fainting of grief.

To his credit, Mr Jaswant Singh made bold to suggest that the Government had to keep the nation’s interest in mind, that we could not be seen to be giving in to the hijackers, or words to that effect, in chaste Hindi. That fetched him abuse and rebuke. “Bhaand me jaaye desh aur bhaand me jaaye desh ka hit. (To hell with the country and national interest),” many in the crowd shouted back. Stumped by the response, Mr Jaswant Singh could merely promise that the Government would do everything possible.


I do not remember the exact date, but sometime during the crisis, Mr Jaswant Singh was asked to hold a Press conference to brief the media. While the briefing was on at the Press Information Bureau hall in Shastri Bhavan, some families of the hostages barged in and started shouting slogans. They were led by one Sanjiv Chibber, who, I was later told, was a ‘noted surgeon’: He claimed six of his relatives were among the hostages.

Dr Chibber wanted all 36 terrorists named by the hijackers to be released immediately. He reminded everybody in the hall that in the past terrorists had been released from prison to secure the freedom of Ms Rubayya Sayeed, daughter of Mufti Mohammed Sayeed, while he was Home Minister in VP Singh’s Government. “Why can’t you release the terrorists now when our relatives are being held hostage?” he demanded. And then we heard the familiar refrain: “Give away Kashmir, give them anything they want, we don’t give a damn.”

On another evening, there was a surprise visitor at the PMO: The widow of Squadron Leader Ajay Ahuja, whose plane was shot down during the Kargil war. She insisted that she should be taken to meet the relatives of the hostages. At Race Course Road, she spoke to mediapersons and the hostages’ relatives, explaining why India must not be seen giving in to the hijackers, that it was a question of national honour, and gave her own example of fortitude in the face of adversity.

“She has become a widow, now she wants others to become widows. Who is she to lecture us? Yeh kahan se aayi?” someone shouted from the crowd. Others heckled her. The young widow stood her ground, displaying great dignity and courage. As the mood turned increasingly ugly, she had to be led away. Similar appeals were made by others who had lost their sons, husbands and fathers in the Kargil war that summer. Col Virendra Thapar, whose son Lt Vijayant Thapar was martyred in the war, made a fervent appeal for people to stand united against the hijackers. It fell on deaf ears.

The media made out that the overwhelming majority of Indians were with the relatives of the hostages and shared their view that no price was too big to secure the hostages’ freedom. The Congress kept on slyly insisting, “We are with the Government and will support whatever it does for a resolution of the crisis and to ensure the safety of the hostages. But the Government must explain its failure.” Harkishen Singh Surjeet and other Opposition politicians issued similar ambiguous statements.

Now look at intentions of both NDA & UPA . U will find out the difference.Today Manmohan was addressing a press conference in Mumbai.When a journalist asked him why Afjal guru is not hanged yet. MMS said there are many people who get death penelty before him and still waiting .his number will come after them acording to list.


AND THEY ARE SAYING THEY WILL FIGHT TERRORISM.
 
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No amount of explanation on kandhar can be justified. Why do Mr. Jaswant singh had to meet the families of aggrieved relatives ? Bad precedence was set by release of Mehbooba mufti, but BJP continued the wrong and it will haunt them on their otherwise good record and stand on Terrorism. No doubt BJP had been far more decisive and has done better at most of the areas. But, kandhar incident was a total failure.

Regards,
 
It is very easy to point fingers. mebooba mufti toh sirf ek life thee.... marr jaan dettey......k desh khaali howe tha ek Teengri bina??.... Lekin iss plane hijack mein toh 200-300 logg they...er yaa congress party tein bhi salaah lee gayi thee uss crucial time mein....

Congress kare woh toh theek.... lekin BJP kare woh galat...! yaa approach galat sei...

Kandhar waala maamla kaabu tein bahar ho liya tha...kyunki plane udd chuka tha Raja Sansi airport (ASR) se.... agar plane india mein hi raha hota...toh tasveer kuch aur hi hoti...!!

No amount of explanation on kandhar can be justified. Why do Mr. Jaswant singh had to meet the families of aggrieved relatives ? Bad precedence was set by release of Mehbooba mufti, but BJP continued the wrong and it will haunt them on their otherwise good record and stand on Terrorism. No doubt BJP had been far more decisive and has done better at most of the areas. But, kandhar incident was a total failure.

Regards,
 
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There is no great shame in that defeat but it surely is when first of all it is blamed on others rather than honestly accepting the mistake.RSS often brags about Akhand Bharat, Dealing with Pakistan etc. etc. BJP as their political outfit was main part of NDA at that time and 'Lohpurush' even didnt care to attend the meeting. Congress was no less culprit over Mufti's case but does it give BJP to copy the same? Then why they claim to protect India's pride? A honest acceptance would have repaired the many things.

Ironicaly, this time BJP is out with punchline of 'Majboot Neta'..This Majbooti was shown a 'KHADAU' by a BJP worker.

200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions.

Morever, what abt Black Money in Indian Banks? It should be huge..or Just is it a political gimmick by every party? What is the crux?



It is very easy to point fingers. mebooba mufti toh sirf ek life thee.... marr jaan dettey......k desh khaali howe tha ek Teengri bina??.... Lekin iss plane hijack mein toh 200-300 logg they...er yaa congress party tein bhi salaah lee gayi thee uss crucial time mein....

Congress kare woh toh theek.... lekin BJP kare woh galat...! yaa approach galat sei...

Kandhar waala maamla kaabu tein bahar ho liya tha...kyunki plane udd chuka tha Raja Sansi airport (ASR) se.... agar plane india mein hi raha hota...toh tasveer kuch aur hi hoti...!!
 
It's a pity that leaders just tries to jeopradize the situation and happenings instead of gracefully accepting their mistakes of the past. No doubt that BJP have a bad patch of Kandhar on its sleeves and now instead of accepting the mistake they are trying to blame one another. Com'on, whole India knew at that time that Mr. Jaswant Singh was going to Kandhar so it seems ridiculous if someone who was major part of the GOVT. of that time is trying to defend himself by saying that he was unaware of it.

Anyways, BJP still had shown some decisive powers while Congress just believe on "let it pending for good" strategy and the 'pseudo secularism' sucks like Hell.
 
Dear Samar Kadian Bhai,

You can not compare Mehbooba Mufti case with Kandhar Plane Hijack...

In Mehbooba's case govt took decision just to favor "one congress leader family" but in Kandhar Hijack... BJP took decision to favor 300 common man families.

And what BJP did was not correct....but it was much "better" decision than what Congress took for Mehbooba !!! Maaney toh teri marzi sei... er nahi maan-na sei toh chahe kitna e saaf saaf bata lyo.... COngress ne e badhiya batawega !!





There is no great shame in that defeat but it surely is when first of all it is blamed on others rather than honestly accepting the mistake.RSS often brags about Akhand Bharat, Dealing with Pakistan etc. etc. BJP as their political outfit was main part of NDA at that time and 'Lohpurush' even didnt care to attend the meeting. Congress was no less culprit over Mufti's case but does it give BJP to copy the same? Then why they claim to protect India's pride? A honest acceptance would have repaired the many things.

Ironicaly, this time BJP is out with punchline of 'Majboot Neta'..This Majbooti was shown a 'KHADAU' by a BJP worker.

200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions.

Morever, what abt Black Money in Indian Banks? It should be huge..or Just is it a political gimmick by every party? What is the crux?
 
Regarding "200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions"

How can anyone just let 200-300 people die? I don't think the decision depended upon which government it was. either one would have do the same. while leaving the terrorists, one can atleast hope that we wouldn't let them infiltrate into India again or they can be captured again etc. But people once dead would have been gone. We should rather learn lessons from these things and make our security system better. and that will be the true defeat for terrorists.
 
YES,,,,hamein sabhi terrorists ko chhod dena chaahiye aur unko India ke Border se baahar kar dena chaahiye,,,,,,,phir ek aisi deewar banaayi jaaye taaki koyi bhi terrorist India ke andar dobaara naa aaye

aur saath hi hamaarei kisi fauzi ko bhi nahi maar paayega aisa karne se,,,,,deewar hi itni unchi banaa denge ki jo Fauzi border par khada ho vo....baahar waale ko deekhe hi naa:rock

Regarding "200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions"

How can anyone just let 200-300 people die? I don't think the decision depended upon which government it was. either one would have do the same. while leaving the terrorists, one can atleast hope that we wouldn't let them infiltrate into India again or they can be captured again etc. But people once dead would have been gone. We should rather learn lessons from these things and make our security system better. and that will be the true defeat for terrorists.
 
Samar Bhai ko ram ram,

First i would like to applaud you for your sense of gr8 patriotism & nationalism.

But regarding the quote "
200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions"

I beg to differ from you.

It was not only the question of 200-300 lives but more than that.Think of their dependents.

Bhagwan na kare lekin yaadi same situation mein apna koi family wala hoota toh bhi kya yahi reaction hoota?

Only mistake that NDA govt did was to let it take off from Amritsar.

Rest of its actions r justified for the sake of 300 families.

best regards
Hemant Hooda


There is no great shame in that defeat but it surely is when first of all it is blamed on others rather than honestly accepting the mistake.RSS often brags about Akhand Bharat, Dealing with Pakistan etc. etc. BJP as their political outfit was main part of NDA at that time and 'Lohpurush' even didnt care to attend the meeting. Congress was no less culprit over Mufti's case but does it give BJP to copy the same? Then why they claim to protect India's pride? A honest acceptance would have repaired the many things.

Ironicaly, this time BJP is out with punchline of 'Majboot Neta'..This Majbooti was shown a 'KHADAU' by a BJP worker.

200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions.

Morever, what abt Black Money in Indian Banks? It should be huge..or Just is it a political gimmick by every party? What is the crux?
 
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Indian Independent election candidate Sham Lal Gandhi gives a lift to a Punjab policeman acting as a security guard while campaigning on a bicycle in Amritsar
 
Regarding "200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions"

How can anyone just let 200-300 people die? I don't think the decision depended upon which government it was. either one would have do the same. while leaving the terrorists, one can atleast hope that we wouldn't let them infiltrate into India again or they can be captured again etc. But people once dead would have been gone. We should rather learn lessons from these things and make our security system better. and that will be the true defeat for terrorists.

Young lady,

Just want to remind you a ''better decision'' made by Russian Govt at the same time to rescue theatre hostages which were more in number like 900 people.Commandos killed all the Chechian terrorists and in action few civilians were died. It was not, like you said,HOW one can let just die, it was the way a nation's pride lived and that too with high head.Dieing their head high rather than on bend knees is far better considered in human society.Once again on hope, being hopeful is synonyms with being hopelessness.A better decision of direct face off with terrorists would have a historical lesson for coming generation.I doubt here about the injection of patriotism every RSS meeting inject in to the vein of Bhartiya People.There political face at national and international level betrayed them.




Regarding "200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions"

How can anyone just let 200-300 people die? I don't think the decision depended upon which government it was. either one would have do the same. while leaving the terrorists, one can atleast hope that we wouldn't let them infiltrate into India again or they can be captured again etc. But people once dead would have been gone. We should rather learn lessons from these things and make our security system better. and that will be the true defeat for terrorists.

Samar Bhai ko ram ram,

First i would like to applaud you for your sense of gr8 patriotism & nationalism.

But regarding the quote "
200-300 Log mar jate to bhi desh khali nahi hota.....Isse jyada to aise hi mar jate hain irrespective of Govt actions"

I beg to differ from you.

It was not only the question of 200-300 lives but more than that.Think of their dependents.

Bhagwan na kare lekin yaadi same situation mein apna koi family wala hoota toh bhi kya yahi reaction hoota?

Only mistake that NDA govt did was to let it take off from Amritsar.

Rest of its actions r justified for the sake of 300 families.

best regards
Hemant Hooda

Hemant, like you said it was not the question of 200-300 lives, it was more than that.Definitely right.

Yes, I would have been sad over the death of my dear one in that action for a moment but that feeling of matrydom and sense of pride would have made me strong enough to live my life more strongly after his/her death.Matrydom is for lucky people when it comes to civilians.I didnt write abt 200-300 lives just to boast about my patriotism here.Nation's pride is anyday higher than random death.In my opinion, dependent of those 200-300 shown very immature behaviour when actually the moment was to pay back.

Ironicaly, that home minister this time is out with logo of Majboot Neta, Nirayanak Sarkar.I heard Jaswant Singh after coming back from Kandhar had opened the shampaign bottle while Home minister and deputy PM didnt attent that meeting where this coward decision was taken.
 
Nahi Samar bhai I liked the idea of leaving all the terrorists and drop them out of our country,,,,ar pher uske paachhe aapni Chauksi aachhi dhaal kar lyo,,,,bheetar badan e na dyo,,,,bata pher kyukar attack karenge:D:D:rockitni unchi boundry wall khadi kar dyo ke koyi aapne fauji bhaiyiya ne dekh bhi naa paavve:rock

Young lady,

Just want to remind you a ''better decision'' made by Russian Govt at the same time to rescue theatre hostages which were more in number like 900 people.Commandos killed all the Chechian terrorists and in action few civilians were died. It was not, like you said,HOW one can let just die, it was the way a nation's pride lived and that too with high head.Dieing their head high rather than on bend knees is far better considered in human society.Once again on hope, being hopeful is synonyms with being hopelessness.A better decision of direct face off with terrorists would have a historical lesson for coming generation.I doubt here about the injection of patriotism every RSS meeting inject in to the vein of Bhartiya People.There political face at national and international level betrayed them.

Ironicaly, that home minister this time is out with logo of Majboot Neta, Nirayanak Sarkar.I heard Jaswant Singh after coming back from Kandhar had opened the shampaign bottle while Home minister and deputy PM didnt attent that meeting where this coward decision was taken.
 
Sachin bhai Ram Ram...

Apna Khundi Bheet waala idea ekdum sahi tha.. aahista aahista logon ko hamaarey vichaaron ki gehraayi ka pata chal raha hai :rock



Nahi Samar bhai I liked the idea of leaving all the terrorists and drop them out of our country,,,,ar pher uske paachhe aapni Chauksi aachhi dhaal kar lyo,,,,bheetar badan e na dyo,,,,bata pher kyukar attack karenge:D:D:rockitni unchi boundry wall khadi kar dyo ke koyi aapne fauji bhaiyiya ne dekh bhi naa paavve:rock
 
Bhai Samar, poll mein ek option Ashok Gehlot ka bhi add kar de ! I hope n wish ki vo PM ban jaaye cuz as far I observed here in Rajasthan, he is the best CM by far ! :)


We need a PM like him, so why not him? he should be promoted from CM to PM, Congress must think over it ! ..

Ashok gehlot aur PM, u can make him PM in your dreams Jit. I am sure he will not be PM of India anytime in future.
Aur aise naam hee lena hai agar congress mein PM ka toh kam se kam Bhupinder hooda ka le deta atleast he is a JAT. ( waise woh bhee kade na banne)
 
Young lady,

Just want to remind you a ''better decision'' made by Russian Govt at the same time to rescue theatre hostages which were more in number like 900 people.Commandos killed all the Chechian terrorists and in action few civilians were died. It was not, like you said,HOW one can let just die, it was the way a nation's pride lived and that too with high head.Dieing their head high rather than on bend knees is far better considered in human society.Once again on hope, being hopeful is synonyms with being hopelessness.A better decision of direct face off with terrorists would have a historical lesson for coming generation.I doubt here about the injection of patriotism every RSS meeting inject in to the vein of Bhartiya People.There political face at national and international level betrayed them.








Hemant, like you said it was not the question of 200-300 lives, it was more than that.Definitely right.

Yes, I would have been sad over the death of my dear one in that action for a moment but that feeling of matrydom and sense of pride would have made me strong enough to live my life more strongly after his/her death.Matrydom is for lucky people when it comes to civilians.I didnt write abt 200-300 lives just to boast about my patriotism here.Nation's pride is anyday higher than random death.In my opinion, dependent of those 200-300 shown very immature behaviour when actually the moment was to pay back.

Ironicaly, that home minister this time is out with logo of Majboot Neta, Nirayanak Sarkar.I heard Jaswant Singh after coming back from Kandhar had opened the shampaign bottle while Home minister and deputy PM didnt attent that meeting where this coward decision was taken.

People hear a lot:thappad
It is very easy to fight with any force on your ground if you were there in place of Jaswant singh you would have done the same.(atleast he brought them alive what about 26/11?
Talking about history ? Talk about present Kasab what govt. is doing with him? Have they chosen him to marry daughter of a chatholic lady?
Kuch to keede sanvidhan mein e chod rakhe the baaki human rights naam ke churne paida ho gaye rahi sahi kasar is Dada Layee Sarpanchi ne poori kar di.Jati ke base pe reservation hathiyaro mein dalali.
Sabko takleef hogi lekin aisa koi ghotala nahi jisme Savargiya shri Rajiv Gandhi ji ka naam nahi aaya ho. Hawala, Boforce koye sa la lyo. Name excluded beacuse judge don't want his home to become a haunted place with living draculas.:tamatarIt is not good to blame a person who is not alive let his soul rest in peace.
Nobody wants to change anything otherwise his votebank will be empty. If you can go for it. I am with you. If you are here to blame then enjoy yourself. :boxing
 
Ashok gehlot aur PM, u can make him PM in your dreams Jit. I am sure he will not be PM of India anytime in future.
Aur aise naam hee lena hai agar congress mein PM ka toh kam se kam Bhupinder hooda ka le deta atleast he is a JAT. ( waise woh bhee kade na banne)

भाई राम राम ...

भुप्पी का कुछ नहीं बेर पाटे भाई .... बन्न भी सके स प्रधान मंत्री ..... दिन कब फिर ज्यां कुछ नहीं बेरा....

याद नहीं..... 2003 में एक टूटी सी अम्बस्डर कार थी भुप्पी केन्ने क्यूंकि लीडर ऑफ़ ओप्पोसिशन था ...आर इब देखो.... :)
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030823/haryana.htm#7



बाकी गहलोत की तो गधी सी मरी पड़ी स .... वोह न बण सकता पी एम् ... :rock :rock
 
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@Gajender:- Sir, I expected you to mention more details with much valid reasons as you seem to be a learned person with political knoweledge.

Terrorism:-Remember Kandhar, Attack on Parliament.

Reservation:-Jats from Haryana( Delhi already is in) also fighting for Reservation.So would it be good for them?

God/Ram:- Is He the sole property of any party like BJP,RSS, Congress, Shiv Sena, Bajrang Dal?

People are waiting for your more points.From both point of views.Thanks for you present input.




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Dear Samar

We all remember Kandhar but how on the basis of Kandhar u can say UPA can do better than NDA.
Kandhar can be justified cos 200 people all were civilians been hostage in Kandhar Afghanistan where Taliban was ruling the govt. Govt. had no option because families of all those civilians had created scene everywhere and afterall first duty and responsibility of a govt. is to protect its civilians and act, and atleast this govt had someone like Jaswant Singh who went with terrorist because agar Talibani Usko wahan Bandi bana lete toh fer kya hota. But he went with them atleast.
If the plane would have been in India definitely story koi aur hoti.

Well I am not saying that decision made was good for the sake of nation but i don't think that UPA usse accha koi decision le sakta tha.
 
nyu bandhi naa banaaya karta koye,,,,inke bhi kuchh code of conducts ho se,,,,ar jab isi deal ho se te beech mein koye beecholiyaa bhi ho se,,,,ar dusri baat agar ye aisa karei to inki image kharaab hoti hai aur aage se inke saath koyi aisi deal karne ki soche bhi nahi gaa.....

bina baat Hero na banaave Jaswan singh ne,,,,,

Dear Samar

We all remember Kandhar but how on the basis of Kandhar u can say UPA can do better than NDA.
Kandhar can be justified cos 200 people all were civilians been hostage in Kandhar Afghanistan where Taliban was ruling the govt. Govt. had no option because families of all those civilians had created scene everywhere and afterall first duty and responsibility of a govt. is to protect its civilians and act, and atleast this govt had someone like Jaswant Singh who went with terrorist because agar Talibani Usko wahan Bandi bana lete toh fer kya hota. But he went with them atleast.
If the plane would have been in India definitely story koi aur hoti.

Well I am not saying that decision made was good for the sake of nation but i don't think that UPA usse accha koi decision le sakta tha.
 
It is very easy to fight with any force on your ground if you were there in place of Jaswant singh you would have done the same.

Kandhar can be justified cos 200 people all were civilians been hostage in Kandhar Afghanistan where Taliban was ruling the govt.
i don’t want to get into any sort of political (intra-party) argument here. but wud like to remind you folks of 1976 hijack of air france plain by palestinian nd west german terrorists, with a large number of israeli passengers on board. idi amin, the then president/dictator of uganda allowed them to land at 'entebbe' airport nd use it as a base. an israeli commando team raid successfully rescued more than 100 hostages with minimal casualties.

kandahar issue for sure was the worst nightmare any govt can have… more like a double edge sword. any right decision could have been wrong nd any wrong decision could have been right. on the issue of kandahar nd citing the example of successful israeli operation away frm its soil in uganda, plus the russian stance of combating chechan terrorists as quoted by samar... i agree with him, when he says…
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Nation's pride is anyday higher than random death.

the decision of govt in kandahaar episode can never be justified as a right decision.

i was trying to refrain myself on this thread cos of intra-party mudslinging. in my attempt to keep my stance apolitical, but given the options available... nd with a view on current political scenario, for sure my vote goes to narendra modi. a good administrator, by far !... he has more iron muscles than anybody else in the given list of PM aspirants. that in my opinion is the call for the day as i rate 'terrorism' as one of 'THE MOST' important issues.
 
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