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Luxmanji


Your hard work is appreciated by all of us.

This digitalization of Jat history material, is and is going to be of great benefit to all of us, researchers, and especially those who have just started to take an interest in our history.

It is great value to our younger generation


Ravi Chaudhary
 
One more topic from the book The Jats - Their Role in the Mughal Empire has been added to Jatland Wiki:

http://www.jatland.com/home/The_Jats_-_Their_Role_in_the_Mughal_Empire/Introduction Introduction

This chapter gives new facts about Jat History. This gives information on following titles:

# 1 Jat history ignored by the historians
# 2 Choice of the topic by the author
# 3 Out information about the Jats
# 4 Jat in the Pre-Aurangzeb Period
# 5 Role of Sarva Khap Panchayats

Regards,
 
Deeg article updated

I have updated the article Deeg on Jatland Wiki, Both Hindi & English versions.

I had requested Mr S P Singh Kajla, SDM Deeg to send the photographs, who has sent me some good photographs of Deeg palace and buildings which have been uploaded and put in the article. Members may see and expand it further.

http://www.jatland.com/home/Deeg

Request - We need intensive efforts to update pages on Places connected with Jat History.. Members may upload photos or content if they have access.

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Strabo on Jat clans

Strabo came to know about Jats after attack on Rome by the Jats. Based on the information of Herodotus and Strabo Alexander Cunningham and James Tod have written about Jats. Here is details of some Jat clans mentioned in Strabo, Geography (eds. H.C. Hamilton, Esq., W. Falconer, M.A.)

See on Jatland at -

http://www.jatland.com/home/Strabo

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I am amazed at the wide sweep that you have taken in compiling Jat gotras. I would like to add my bit on the subject. You have rightly explained one aspect of the Rana Gotra. I may inform you tha t Rana is written as a short form of several Jat gotra having no common ancestry. In fact most of them are on the pattern of the old Sanskrit Gotra names ending in the suffix Ayana such as VAtsyAyana, kAtyAyana. The typical examples of such Jat Gotras are- jatarAyana, kAkarAyana, chaudharAyana, kAkarAyana are jasrAyana etc. The have no relarionship with royalty. The new generation has abbreviated thrgwe respective gotra for some (good?) effect. It is a good disguise to be passed off among the less informed non jats in the cities. <o:p></o:p>
 
Rana Saheb,

I have compiled from various written sources for the general information.
The aspect you mentioned about Rana may be added to the article on Jatland Wiki.

Regards,
 
Kaytha village in Ujjain MP - Birth place of Varahamihira

I visited a village Kaytha in Ujjain on 22-9-2009. I was told by local people that it is the birth place of Varahamihira (505 - 587) a great Indian astronomer and mathematician. He received enlightenment here in this village. I searched ancient literature and produced article on Jatland Wiki at

http://www.jatland.com/home/Kaytha

I am of the opinion that Varahamihira was Jat of Varaha Gotra. Varaha (वराहा) gotra Jats live in Nimach district in Madhya Pradesh and Chhoti Sadri tahsil in Chittorgarh district in Rajasthan. Members may read on following pages in Jatland Wiki -

http://www.jatland.com/home/Varahamihira

http://www.jatland.com/home/Varaha

More on Jat History in Ujjain will follow very shortly.

Regard,
 
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Varahamihir

Laxman ji,
I would like to put the record straight about the connection between Varahamihira and Chandragupt II (C G-II)of the Gupta dynasty. As you have rightly said varahamihira's time is between 505-6 A.D and 587 A.D. But he could not be one of the nine jewels in the court of C. G. II famous as Vikramaditya. C.G.'s reign's known dates are from 375 A.D. (as gleaned from the Mathura Pillar Inscription of the Gupta era year 61, being the sixth year of the kings rule, Indian Historical Quarterly, 18, p.272) and upto 412-13 A.D. (as ascertained from the sanchi Stone Railing inscription dated the 93 year of the Gupta Era, Fleet, CII, III, No. 5).
I have also difficulty in accepting that Jatasura, the name of a demon has anything to do with the word jATa or the Jats. I would prefer not to jump at all sounds having some similarity with our generic name to derive a connection.
 
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lrburdak said:
Jats the Ancient Rulers (A clan study) Book by Bhim Singh Dahiya, IRS , First Edition 1980, Publisher: Sterling Publishers Pvt Ltd, AB/9 Safdarjang Enclave, New Delhi-110064
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The Complete book is Wikified and Online now - May read it

Thus we have now the trusted Jat History on Jatland Wiki !!!
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Luxman Ji,
With due regard to Shri B.S. Dahiya for the pioneering work done on by him Jat History, I wish to point out that some 29 years have elapsed since the book was published. Lot of research based on new material discovered in the long interval raise serious doubts abourt several theories put forward by Shri Dahiya. In some cases the very premises need to be relooked. In all humility I would not be able to agree with Dahiya at least in his interpretations of Sanskrit texts in many places. So I would appeal to all those who are interested in a really rational and scietific study of Jat history to examine the new material with an open mind and revise the views wherever possible. Some of the areas that come to my mind are -the issue of Vishnuvardhana of Bijaya inscription, the Vik connection of Harshavardhana, the origin of the Vardhanas from the Aulikaras of Mandasor,almost all rulers of ancient India being described as Jats,the several derivations of the term 'Jat' etc. As far as writing authentic history is concerned caste patriotism has to come to terms with facts (which can be interpreted sympathetically with neutrality of a historian).I mentioned this lest there be complascence on our part. Let me confess that dahiya's book is responsible for my interest in Jat studies. I have read his book several times over. All said and done, I compliment him.
 
Book - Myths and Legends of the Hindus and Buddhists

Myths and Legends of the Hindus and Buddhists is a book by Sister Nivedita.

Sister Nivedita (1867-1911), born Margaret Elizabeth Noble was an Anglo-Irish social worker, author, teacher and disciple of Swami Vivekananda. She met Vivekananda in 1895 in London and travelled to India (Kolkata) in 1898. Swami Vivekananda gave her the name Nivedita (meaning "Dedicated to God") when he initiated her into the vow of Brahmacharya on March 25 1898.

She was born on October 28, 1867.

She worked to improve the lives of Indian women of all castes.

She died on October 13, 1911 at Darjeeling, India.

On her birthday on October 28 I have started uploading her book Myths and Legends of the Hindus and Buddhists on Jatland Wiki. It may be seen at

http://www.jatland.com/home/Myths_and_Legends_of_the_Hindus_&_Buddhists

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This jatland wiki is really a laughter stock!!. The way, how each and everything is correalated with jats, is horrible. Any sane person will freak out after reading this wiki stuff. Varahmihira was varah gotra jat and jatasura was a jat demon!!:rolleyes:..what is all this Burdak ji, I admire your efforts but u are too much . plz write something that makes sense rather than making the things jumbled up.
 
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Vaidwanji are you commenting on - Myths and Legends of the Hindus & Buddhists book By Sister Nivedita (Margaret E. Noble) ?

It does not mention about Jats at all. It is being uploaded as the Book is by Irish lady about Indian Mythology. It is free from Brahmnical influences. You need to go through it. It does not mention Jatasura. It does not mention about Varahamihira. What is strange about Jatsura and Varahamihira if at all they prove to have some ancestral relation with Jats. If you have your ideas you can write and expand or suggest to improve.
 
drssrana2003 said:
Varahamihir

Laxman ji,
I would like to put the record straight about the connection between Varahamihira and Chandragupt II (C G-II)of the Gupta dynasty. As you have rightly said varahamihira's time is between 505-6 A.D and 587 A.D. But he could not be one of the nine jewels in the court of C. G. II famous as Vikramaditya. C.G.'s reign's known dates are from 375 A.D. (as gleaned from the Mathura Pillar Inscription of the Gupta era year 61, being the sixth year of the kings rule, Indian Historical Quarterly, 18, p.272) and upto 412-13 A.D. (as ascertained from the sanchi Stone Railing inscription dated the 93 year of the Gupta Era, Fleet, CII, III, No. 5).
I have also difficulty in accepting that Jatasura, the name of a demon has anything to do with the word jATa or the Jats. I would prefer not to jump at all sounds having some similarity with our generic name to derive a connection.
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Ranaji,

Jatasura has been mentioned by B S Dahiya. I have not concluded that it is Jat. It may be a person of some Jat clan and asura which does not mean demon in persian. Persian term asura is respectable. Demon is the creation of brahmanical writers. Devasura sangram tells this thing. Both are good people. Jatasura may also be used for an asura with long hair. Is there any historical fact which says he had no relation with Jats? We have brought out information about Jatasura so that we can know if he has got any relation with Jat. Varahamihara is a real person and he is from Persian origin. Varaha is probably his clan and Mihira means Sun which indicates persian origin and Jat connection. Varaha are existing Jats in Malwa which was also the area of varahamihira. It may sound strange but has certain evidences.
 
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