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Kashmiri Hindus have left the State in massive numbers. How can you have a Memorandum when the ones left are the ones who actively support Border Countries? Elephantine blunders done by Nehru & Co., even after 60 years we are still paying. And don't know how much more we will loose. Sabh janjaal hai, aikbar chodh diya toh kal das naye khade ho jayenge. Per aggression khoon men hi naheen toh netaon men kahan sey ayieh? 2000 years of History does not lies. Modi jaisa idealist neta ayieh, tofir voh desh bachaye. Kashmir kobhi aisa hi koi idealist neta solve kar sakta hai. Pure Desh ko Gujarat bana daleyga!
 
Kashmiri Hindus have left the State in massive numbers. How can you have a Memorandum when the ones left are the ones who actively support Border Countries? Elephantine blunders done by Nehru & Co., even after 60 years we are still paying. And don't know how much more we will loose. Sabh janjaal hai, aikbar chodh diya toh kal das naye khade ho jayenge. Per aggression khoon men hi naheen toh netaon men kahan sey ayieh? 2000 years of History does not lies. Modi jaisa idealist neta ayieh, tofir voh desh bachaye. Kashmir kobhi aisa hi koi idealist neta solve kar sakta hai. Pure Desh ko Gujarat bana daleyga!

भाई ये भन्डेले सें , इनका डमरू कोए और बजावे स ,इनने ते बस नाचणा आवे स । देश के पास राजनेता अनेक हैं ,पर नेता एक ही हे इस समय । इस देश को इतने सालों तक बाहर वालों ने गुलाम नहीं किया ,अन्दर वालों ने किया हे ,जो उनका साथ देते थे ,और वे ही आज शाशक बने हुए हैं ।
 
sab se harran karne wali bat to ye h ki haryana may bjp ki sirf 4 seat h assambly may or 90 may se 75 seateo pay uske jamanat jabat thi.
orr ek bhi jat mla nahi h in 4 seat pay ....inh may se 2 seat bhi congress ki apsi ladai kay karan h....lagta h haryane kay jat deshdrohi h
jaisa ki jl per logo ka kahna h!!
 
EK kahavat hai, kisi cheez ki kadra janni ho to usse door raho isilie kabhi desh ki kadra janni ho to unse door rahne wale logo se pucho uski asli kadra kya hai, unhone na sirf duniya dekhi hai par wo apne desh se door rah kar uski asli keemat bhi pahchante hai.

हाँ भाई ,एक तू-ए बिदेश गया स ? और ते आडे सब गाम की बणी में-ए हान्डें सें । आवेगा जब बता दिए ,? दिखा दयुन्गा कितने ठप्पे लागरे सें पासपोर्ट पे ।
 
sab se harran karne wali bat to ye h ki haryana may bjp ki sirf 4 seat h assambly may or 90 may se 75 seateo pay uske jamanat jabat thi.
orr ek bhi jat mla nahi h in 4 seat pay ....inh may se 2 seat bhi congress ki apsi ladai kay karan h....lagta h haryane kay jat deshdrohi h
jaisa ki jl per logo ka kahna h!!

आपणे हिस्साब तें क्यूँ मतलब काढ़े स भाई । हरयाना के जाट लोकदल के समर्थक सें , 90%। ना भाजपा के आर ना कांग्रेस के । रास्ट्रीय स्तर पे ,ज्युकर एम् पि का चुनाव हो ते , कांग्रेस की बजाय , जरूर भाजपा आगे रह्वेगी ,जा लोकदल ना हो ते ।जा भाजपा अर लोकदल कट्ठे आजावें ते कांग्रेस की जमानत जब्त स । एक आधी सीट छोड़ के ने ।अर आगले 100 साल , कददे भी कांग्रेस शाशन में ना आवे । इबके आगले चुनाव में देख लिए । नाइ के , मेरे बाल कोड-कोड ? ........................
 
Sarkar bharat desh naheen hai aur bharat desh sarkar naheen hai. Aur sabh baton men tark vitark naheen chala karte. Kabhi kabhi haar kar bhi adami jeet jata hai. Yeh soch kar ki kuch naya seekhane ko mila, kuch naye vichar sunne ko mile. Aur jatland per agar voting karwa dyo toh adhiktar log congress sey dukhi haiin. Chahe abh aap kitne bhi tark deylo, jan vichardhara badaleygi naheen.
 
आपणे हिस्साब तें क्यूँ मतलब काढ़े स भाई । हरयाना के जाट लोकदल के समर्थक सें , 90%। ना भाजपा के आर ना कांग्रेस के । रास्ट्रीय स्तर पे ,ज्युकर एम् पि का चुनाव हो ते , कांग्रेस की बजाय , जरूर भाजपा आगे रह्वेगी ,जा लोकदल ना हो ते ।जा भाजपा अर लोकदल कट्ठे आजावें ते कांग्रेस की जमानत जब्त स । एक आधी सीट छोड़ के ने ।अर आगले 100 साल , कददे भी कांग्रेस शाशन में ना आवे । इबके आगले चुनाव में देख लिए । नाइ के , मेरे बाल कोड-कोड ? ........................
90% to nahi kah sakte ha 70% or 30% ka ratio h ......hooda kay karan.....haa pahle 90% jarror theyy lokdal kay sathh.
fer bjp to uss chor bishnoi galya lag re se ........jat na heja karte kykre bhi bjp n ..............baki jab nai ka bal katega to kod kod panwege bera pate jaga.
 
Sarkar bharat desh naheen hai aur bharat desh sarkar naheen hai. Aur sabh baton men tark vitark naheen chala karte. Kabhi kabhi haar kar bhi adami jeet jata hai. Yeh soch kar ki kuch naya seekhane ko mila, kuch naye vichar sunne ko mile. Aur jatland per agar voting karwa dyo toh adhiktar log congress sey dukhi haiin. Chahe abh aap kitne bhi tark deylo, jan vichardhara badaleygi naheen.

Fair comparison. Lets extend this further. Jatland sabhi Jats ko represent nahi karti, aur na hi sare Jats Jatland pe hain. Yeh sach hai ki max log Congress se dukhi hai. Par kya woh sab log BJP ko chahte hain? Yeh hum nahi keh sakte.

Aur tark vitark jahan na chale wahan samjho dimag ka kaam khatam. Agar hum Jatland pe issues pe tark vitark nahi kar sakte aur personal insults pe utaru ho jate hain, to apne leaders se to umeed ho chorh de.
 
We think differently, with reasons and not emotions unlike the 100s you are talking about.

Let me classify the process of thinking of 100s you are talking about

Look at the reply(without looking at rational behind it), IF anti govt- ally|If pro govt- anti India, If pro govt- look for most humiliating words in the dictionary(traitor, selfish blah blah, you have plethora of them) and write as a reply but do not dare to counter the logic behind... heck, what is logic?

The intellect is always fooled by the heart and like said in other post, please stop thinking from your heart but use your mind to analyze the statements instead of jumping on a few keywords looked for.


Do you think that out of hundred people of this form,only both of you , think logically?
 
Baat sahi hai, par bat ye bhi hai voting 2009 main hui thi aur us voting ki kitni kadra ho rahi hai yaha hum sab dekh rahe hai.

Let me go a step beyond, Internet is not India and India is not internet, agar aap internet par 2004 ur 2009 main voting karate to bhi congress harti but aisa hua nahi. A fraction of people who sit online represent a different class of people than real India. Most of the people who sit online are living in cities and we all know how BJP was washed out of major cities with a clean sweep in Delhi itself(where most of JLs come from)



Sarkar bharat desh naheen hai aur bharat desh sarkar naheen hai. Aur sabh baton men tark vitark naheen chala karte. Kabhi kabhi haar kar bhi adami jeet jata hai. Yeh soch kar ki kuch naya seekhane ko mila, kuch naye vichar sunne ko mile. Aur jatland per agar voting karwa dyo toh adhiktar log congress sey dukhi haiin. Chahe abh aap kitne bhi tark deylo, jan vichardhara badaleygi naheen.
 
You are missing the point, I am saying let people vote and decide, if you say they dont want to be here then why should we keep them here? Why waste billions of $ to save that land?

na Pakistan kashmir mein shanti hone dega, na hindustan chahega ho aur na tarakki hogi[/QUOTE]


Desi how come you can even think that if Kashmir goes nothing wrong with, ya to waye baat hogi ki ghar tain bahu ya chhori bhaj to k hoga, is it like that???

N vote kar karke hi to wahan sarkar bani hui hai, what kind of voting you are talking here, could you please elborate?
 
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na Pakistan kashmir mein shanti hone dega, na hindustan chahega ho aur na tarakki hogi


Desi how come you can even think that if Kashmir goes nothing wrong with, ya to waye baat hogi ki ghar tain bahu ya chhori bhaj to k hoga, is it like that???

N vote kar karke hi to wahan sarkar bani hui hai, what kind of voting you are talking here, could you please elborate?

I think he means a plebiscite i.e. if Kashmiris are asked to choose their political future. But given that fact there have been so many demographic changes with Pandits leaving the valley, a plebiscite won't be fair.

And it was good to see Kashmiris voting in the last assembly elections. But many analysts pointed out that this shouldnt be misconstrued as change in their aspirations and demands. It was more a tiredness from violence and a timid hope for an alternative.
 
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bhai desi jat.... ravinderjeet bhai ne te esa kuch nhi kheya, vo to sirf tere baare m kheve the,ar tu apne aap ne gaddar mane h te bhai ya teri sooch h na ki ravinder bhai ki sooch .ar tere m dum h too tu ravinder jeet bhai ka challange lele ne .uste tne teri sooch ka bhi pta laag ja ga ar ora ki sooch ka bhi.bhai mane esa lage h tera haal vo hi hoga jo gujrat m congress ka
 
Manjeet bhai, I dont come to Jatland to challenge anyone, I will never be worthy to challenge any elder on personal grounds. It is a forum to present your views which I have been keeping forward without getting personal and with due respect. There is a limit to any conversation that one has, even with strangers ye to fir bhi jat parivaar hai.

Anyways, thank you for predicting my future, i wish you the best!

bhai desi jat.... ravinderjeet bhai ne te esa kuch nhi kheya, vo to sirf tere baare m kheve the,ar tu apne aap ne gaddar mane h te bhai ya teri sooch h na ki ravinder bhai ki sooch .ar tere m dum h too tu ravinder jeet bhai ka challange lele ne .uste tne teri sooch ka bhi pta laag ja ga ar ora ki sooch ka bhi.bhai mane esa lage h tera haal vo hi hoga jo gujrat m congress ka
 
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Friends,

Kindly pause and think over it.

Ek vicharak ne kaha hai : "Ho sakata hai mein aapke vicharon se sahmat nahin huen; lekin aapke vichar pargat karane kee azadi kee mein aapni jaan dekar bhee raksha karunga."


Dhanyavad !
 
Jaspreet, i see one point over here. People are trying to change the geography of a state with the smart articulations of thoughts.It can never do that and should not be allowed to do that.
Plebiscite for telangana is not being done within state and over here it is being thought for separating out a portion of land from nation and please let us know the view for khalistan in that case?? wahan bhi hona chahiye tha kya?

Shimla samjhauta tha ussi mein faisla ho jana tha lekin iss gandhi parivar ne iss desh har jagah maa thok di and i know some people over here can say there was nothing wrong in that pact and will call Indira Gandhi as iron lady.

Ebb manne to itna bera se ki koi apne sar ki topi ne taaj samjhe and use duniya na mane to duniya galat nhi hoti.Bhai, isse log bhi sai ki jinke ghar tain bahu n chhori bhaj sai to unhe farak nhi padta and keh de sai ki that was there personnel choice. Same can said for kashmir as well, sayad Vikas ki soch ki tarah hindustan mein 30% log mil jangey jaise piche uss advocate bhusan ne bhi kahi thi n fir court mein pita tha logon se :)

Baki ek bhai ne JL pe ek baat likhi thi n itni achi thi ki fir likh deta hun ek baar

Jisse jitna gyan uski vaise hi baat hogi, it is not other way round.
 
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Friends,

Kindly pause and think over it.

Ek vicharak ne kaha hai : "Ho sakata hai mein aapke vicharon se sahmat nahin huen; lekin aapke vichar pargat karane kee azadi kee mein aapni jaan dekar bhee raksha karunga."


Dhanyavad !

UPA1 mein jab Manu JNU gya tha to wahan kuch student ne kaale jhande dikhaye the to usne bhi yahi baat kahi thi uncleji vo alag baat vo kuch kabhi bolta nhi itna acha prani hai
 
UPA1 mein jab Manu JNU gya tha to wahan kuch student ne kaale jhande dikhaye the to usne bhi yahi baat kahi thi uncleji vo alag baat vo kuch kabhi bolta nhi itna acha prani hai



The statement of Voltaire quoted in earlier post, may be understood in its proper contextual reference please.

I have made no comment on the issue being discussed but only interrupted the discussion for a sort break for self introspection on the part of participants;

and I have nothing to do with any Manu/jnu or other things.

Thanks.
 
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Jaspreet, i see one point over here. People are trying to change the geography of a state with the smart articulations of thoughts.It can never do that and should not be allowed to do that.
I think we are underestimating the problem if we are just stating it as smart articulation of thoughts. Me and you are both fooling ourselves if we think there is no genuine demand to break-away from the union. The problem is our fear that addressing such a demand will lead to other demands elsewhere, esp North East and will break up the country. So a whole generation of Kashmiris was wasted away, thousands of soldiers died and the country bled billions of dollars and this will continue to happen.

Plebiscite for telangana is not being done within state and over here it is being thought for separating out a portion of land from nation and please let us know the view for khalistan in that case?? wahan bhi hona chahiye tha kya?
I think you are misconstruing the purpose of a plebiscite. Its not an acceptance of a demand to break-away. Its just an acceptance that such a demand exists and to have a poll to decide if indeed majority of the people want to form an independent nation. Most recently, Quebec, a French-speaking state of Canada, went for a plebiscite around 2003-04 but the separatists narrowly lost and Quebec continues to be a state of Canada.

About Khalistan, plebiscite could have been an option chosen by the central govt if it had the courage. But as always with central govt. it tries to show every political and social issue as a law and order problem and one that can be handled by force. Its only later when force doesnt work, as in the case of Kashmir and Naxals that it thinks of other alternatives.

In my opinion if a plebiscite would have been conducted, the separatists would have lost heavily. There was no popular ground-level support for Khalistan amongst Sikhs and all Hindus certainly supported remaining with India. In fact a plebiscite would have stopped so much blood shed as the results would have quietened down the separatists.

About Telangana, I dont know if a plebiscite is also used for creation of new states within a union. But there is hardly a need as govt in the past has mentioned the demand as justified. The bone of contention delaying Telangana's creation is the position of Hyderabad. Both Andhra and Telangana folks desire it. Maybe it should be made a UT, like Chandigarh.

Shimla samjhauta tha ussi mein faisla ho jana tha lekin iss gandhi parivar ne iss desh har jagah maa thok di and i know some people over here can say there was nothing wrong in that pact and will call Indira Gandhi as iron lady.
Indeed Indira could have asked Bhutto to give PoK in exchange of 90,000 of Pak personnel. But she gave into Bhutto's plea that he will be killed if he gave away PoK and his assurance of goodwill. But as we know, Bhutto was killed anyway, hanged by Zia who later was responsible for Kashmiri militancy. We never know why Indira, in spite of her own Kashmiri roots chose to not have the whole of Kashmir.

Ebb manne to itna bera se ki koi apne sar ki topi ne taaj samjhe and use duniya na mane to duniya galat nhi hoti.Bhai, isse log bhi sai ki jinke ghar tain bahu n chhori bhaj sai to unhe farak nhi padta and keh de sai ki that was there personnel choice. Same can said for kashmir as well, sayad Vikas ki soch ki tarah hindustan mein 30% log mil jangey jaise piche uss advocate bhusan ne bhi kahi thi n fir court mein pita tha logon se :)

Baki ek bhai ne JL pe ek baat likhi thi n itni achi thi ki fir likh deta hun ek baar

Jisse jitna gyan uski vaise hi baat hogi, it is not other way round.

I dont think that example works here. We cant let a million people die including soldiers, just for preserving what we think is our idea of India. India is made up of the people who love it, not by lines drawn on maps.
 
आपणे हिस्साब तें क्यूँ मतलब काढ़े स भाई । हरयाना के जाट लोकदल के समर्थक सें , 90%। ना भाजपा के आर ना कांग्रेस के । रास्ट्रीय स्तर पे ,ज्युकर एम् पि का चुनाव हो ते , कांग्रेस की बजाय , जरूर भाजपा आगे रह्वेगी ,जा लोकदल ना हो ते ।जा भाजपा अर लोकदल कट्ठे आजावें ते कांग्रेस की जमानत जब्त स । एक आधी सीट छोड़ के ने ।अर आगले 100 साल , कददे भी कांग्रेस शाशन में ना आवे । इबके आगले चुनाव में देख लिए । नाइ के , मेरे बाल कोड-कोड ? ........................

आप भी अपने हिसाब त ए मतलब काड रे अर् ! वे हरयाणा के नब्बे प्रतिशत जाट कित सिक स् ? कुणसे राज्य म जा लुक रे स् वे पाछले दस साल त ? के लोकदल स्वयम समर्थक स् जाट का ? ईब भी लंगड आर्थिक आधार प बात करे स् जाट आरक्षण की ! कुकर समर्थक होगा वो ? अपने आप न छतीस जात का नेता कहावन म विश्वास राखे स् !

सौ साल ? भाजपा नुए ए रही त आण आले केन्द्र के चुनाव म देख लियो कांग्रेस बैठी पावेगी !
 
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