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Stupidity among Hindus is not new. It goes back at least 1000 years. When Islam was taking roots in Arabia and Islamic armies were invading country after country, our kings were sleeping and indulging in women and wining. Our kings and people had no clue what Islam and Islamic philosophy was. Result we all know. Unfortunately story does not end here. Islamic scholars talk of "Ghazwa-e_Hind";

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR9QI8PuITU

The person in this video is a highly respected and important Islamic scholar and also a prominent Pakistani politician. If Hindus decide to laugh at what he is saying, then God save us. Blame Modi and RSS, Rath yatra etc if that makes one happy and claim the title of secularism.

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India is a diverse country and it's strength lies in secularism. And if secular fundamental gets weaker, India will get weaker too. Unlike Pakistan, after independence, India kept secular credentials intact. Whereas situation in Pakistan got worse due to non secular dominant forces. Religious intolerance is Pakistan has led to a collapse.
 
vicky84 said:
India is a diverse country and it's strength lies in secularism. And if secular fundamental gets weaker, India will get weaker too. Unlike Pakistan, after independence, India kept secular credentials intact. Whereas situation in Pakistan got worse due to non secular dominant forces. Religious intolerance is Pakistan has led to a collapse.
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This does not answer the question I have raised. Please tell us what will you say of Muslims who believe in Ghazwa-E-Hind as their religious duty.

RK^2
 
rkumar said:
This does not answer the question I have raised. Please tell us what will you say of Muslims who believe in Ghazwa-E-Hind as their religious duty.

RK^2
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Sir, in my opinion, secularism answers all.

secular spirit or tendency, esp. a system of political or social philosophy that rejects religious faith and worship./the attitude that religion should have no place in civil affairs
 
vicky84 said:
Sir, in my opinion, secularism answers all.

secular spirit or tendency, esp. a system of political or social philosophy that rejects religious faith and worship./the attitude that religion should have no place in civil affairs
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Fine. How can we teach secularism to these Ghazwa-e-Hind" soldiers of Islam? Any advise to RSS and people like me who want to live peacefully with every religion?

RK^2
 
rkumar said:
Stupidity among Hindus is not new. It goes back at least 1000 years. When Islam was taking roots in Arabia and Islamic armies were invading country after country, our kings were sleeping and indulging in women and wining. Our kings and people had no clue what Islam and Islamic philosophy was. Result we all know. Unfortunately story does not end here. Islamic scholars talk of "Ghazwa-e_Hind";

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR9QI8PuITU

The person in this video is a highly respected and important Islamic scholar and also a prominent Pakistani politician. If Hindus decide to laugh at what he is saying, then God save us. Blame Modi and RSS, Rath yatra etc if that makes one happy and claim the title of secularism.

RK^2
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You seem a learned and senior person Mr. Kumar. Tell me, why should you club all Muslims with what one fringe politician is speaking about and that too in Pakistan? Just like the Sanghis and chaddi walas don't represent Hindus of India, this idiot politician doesn't represent Islam or Muslims in India. Why generalize?
 
swaich said:
You seem a learned and senior person Mr. Kumar. Tell me, why should you club all Muslims with what one fringe politician is speaking about and that too in Pakistan? Just like the Sanghis and chaddi walas don't represent Hindus of India, this idiot politician doesn't represent Islam or Muslims in India. Why generalize?
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He is quoting Hadis and Quran and words of their Prophet. He is not alone. There are 100s of Islamic scholars from different countries who say the same thing. These are not his personal views. He is just telling them what is told by Prophet.

RK^2
 
rkumar said:
He is quoting Hadis and Quran and words of their Prophet. He is not alone. There are 100s of Islamic scholars from different countries who say the same thing. These are not his personal views. He is just telling them what is told by Prophet.

RK^2
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Quaran, just like the Bible are open to interpretations.

Ok, so its 100 scholars. How many Muslims are there again, 1 Bn? Are they all busy chopping down kafirs and waging wars?

Don't let your own insecurities and fears get the better of you.
 
swaich said:
Quaran, just like the Bible are open to interpretations.

Ok, so its 100 scholars. How many Muslims are there again, 1 Bn? Are they all busy chopping down kafirs and waging wars?

Don't let your own insecurities and fears get the better of you.
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One billion people be they Muslims or Hindu or anyone, can never be the scholars of religion. Scholars are always a very small number in any community. I have not come across any Muslim scholar refuting "Ghazwa_E-Hind". It is scholars who the opinion makers. Having false security I not going to help. I was just scanning a Pakistani paper (http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-n...13/fight-poverty-not-india-modi-asks-pakistan) and came across this comment by a reader which invokes the very Ghazwa-E-Hind:

Sohail Pasha > koshur_batta
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told you slumdog we are in your head, you just cant get us out. you slumdog eat , breath, and sleep Pakistan..Biggest Slumdog of all... number one terrorist.........LET THE GHAZWA E HIND BEGIN...... you slumdogs want to meet your maker, we will oblige you...... all you Slumdogs can bark all you want, insult all you want... your days are numbered. you were our bitches for over a thousand years , you are still our bitches for the next thousand years, the only good Hindu is a dead Hindu.. the only good Hindini is the one under a Muslim or on a seti. ( we will help you revive this)


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The root cause of these rotten heads is the preachings of this book. It's a fact that this book has been the reason of making terrorist.. If their basic theory itself is wrong, how can we expect them to co-exist peacefully with others..
 
We have to be very careful. The wahhabism is very dangerous. They want islam rule all over india and other countries. Saudi and US made these powerful and exported them to Afganistan. Pakistan got involved and now they are so powerful in Pakistan that even govt cant dare to touch them.

Unfortunately there are many muslims who attend madarsa and listen to these Mullas. These mullas teach them that things like Ghazwa of hind. That allah has already foretold that Islam will conquer India and the armies will rise from Sind (pakistan).

Fortunately in India lot of muslims dont subscribe to Wahhabism at the moment but we have to be prepared. We have to nip the evil in the bud.
 
@jitender Mann - All religious fanatics, be it Islamic, Hindu right-wingers, Khalistanis and Christians conversationalists deserve no respect.

Save your threats and don't take out anger on keyboards.
 
vicky84 said:
Sir, in my opinion, secularism answers all.

secular spirit or tendency, esp. a system of political or social philosophy that rejects religious faith and worship./the attitude that religion should have no place in civil affairs
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Please don't tell us the definition or how it should be ideally. Comment on the present situation.
 
@RAJENDRA JI....you have hit the bulls eye sir......in a room if i have problem with everybody else .i need to introspect same goes with slam......be it

INDIA,PHILIPPINES,USA,UK,AUSTRALIA,INDONESIA,SRILANKA,MYANMAR,NIGERIA,LEBANON,CHINA,RUSSIA,LIBYA.SYRIA,
IRAN,IRAQ,MALI,SUDAN,ETHIOPIA,SOMALIA,KENYA,GERMANY.......... LIST GOES ON ........Islam seems to be in conflict with every other religion....above all it is also in conflict with itself see Pakistan ,Bangladesh, I hope seculars do not blame RSS and BJP for troubles in pakistan....

sir ,these seculars have very similar backgrounds if you will check them deeply...either their relatives are fighting on KHANRESS tickets or they are in developed countries teaching us value on American constitution and true meaning of liberty,equality and freedom.......

.in India they have shielded themselves in ivory towers.....they do not face menace of Muslims in daily life.....sir they live in colonies with very few Muslims.....they take their behavior to generalize all Muslims......sir their sisters and wife are not molested or targeted by jehadis as happened in KAWAAL........so please ignore them.......

these ppl are true hypocrites so you can`t expect anything good from them

seculars....please come out of your AC cocoons and face reality i offer you a crash course to live with Muslims in muzaffarnagar in khala paar with female members of your family .......you will learn few new concepts of real life........

the concept of jehad has been used politically by Muslims against jews,christians,sikhs,hindus,buddhist.parsis from time of prophet go read some history books enlighten ur selfs
 
It is their avowed principle/philosophy to gradually transform the world into a Caliphate as is mentioned in their various texts and scriptures.

We need not go too far. Their population is steadily growing with four wives and at least 16 children. Being in a so-called minority if they are so dangerous (terrorism, rape and molestation of girls, killings, hafta wasooli, etc) one can only imagine what will they be like when they become the majority community in the times to come and which is all too IMMINENT.

It's a numbers game and the muslims all around the world have realized this. They are migrating everywhere and spreading religious hate and bigotry there. Even the westerners have started realizing this and will sooner than later come down with a heavy hand on this.

My only worry is with a few people amongst us who will just close their eyes to the ground reality and post after post quote from their old school days civics/social studies books and also go on to talk of the politics of the Patloon walas, Chaddi walas and salwar walas. I think they have already resigned to the fate of converting to Islam which is all too imminent because of their political masters and their supporters.
 
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