Communal Tension in Muzaffarnagar, Shamli of west UP

What exactly is the plan and of whom Sir?

Someone already said in one thread that it is the 10% voting minority who decide the future of 85% majority? Probably swami is suggesting a counter plan :)
 
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I would not like to blame my brothers, but I am completely at loss to understand two things here:

1. Why did and do the Jat brothers in M.Nagar (at least a few) give shelter to Muslims when they were ready to leave the area? Jats have seen the result of sheltering the Muslims at the time of partition through communal riots in the following decades. Again a few Jats are sheltering the Muslims. This at a time when Jat girls are being molested, their brothers killed and Jat peasants cannot even think of working in their fields where the crops are getting spoilt.

2. Why and how come non-Jats are the local MLAs and MPs in Jat majority areas? Even if they are Thakurs and Gujjars and even if they are from the BJP, why not Jats? Are Jat leaders there so incapable?

they gave shelter becoz they were mind washed by congress in UP at that time which used to be called united province congres had provincial government congressis were leader of whole india most of the congress leaders came from UP
so it was very easy to make fool of simple village ppl.........in case of haryana and punjab it was tha part of patiala state where support of state was their to drive out muslims....today this mistake has become a question of life and death........but atleast now we can learn atleast u ppl in haryana choose govt that do not let bangladeshis settle in haryana

ajit singh is to blame for this mess he divide jat votes and no body apart from jats votes for him so it becomes clear contest between jats and non jats
also jats are few in number ........in last 65 years we have become minority......Muslims becoz of their population explosion call the shots in western up......
 
I addition: Why were those non-jat leaders preaching at a Jat Panchayat? Why were they allowed?

allowed ???? tumhara samagik gyan kitna kamzoor hai desi .........bure waqt mai jo kaam aaye wo hi saccha dost hai...........UP mai jeena mushkil ho raha hai...apni jaan bachene koi ..aaye to usse bhi koi permission thode hi leni patdti hai.........waise appko iss baat ka jyada dukh hai ki gujjar aur thakur jatto ke saath kui aaye ??ya iska ki mussamano ne jaato ke saath jo atyachaar kia?????
 
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Then what problem our Desi brother has if non jats were there on contrary its good (may be try to divide Hindus for congress benefit :livid:). I have heard that Hukum Singh was trying to calm people down and the evidence is in some footage as well. That is why SP couldn't arrest him.
 
Was this a Jat Panchayat or all Khap panchayat does anyone know?

In theory, This was neither a khap panchayat nor a jat panchayat..panchayat was called by several jat khap leaders and BKU (Bhartiya kisan union) and "bahu-beti bachao panchayat" was the name given to it. But it was dominantly a jat panchayat because jat boys were killed. Votes of jats are divided among RLD (ajeet singh, big chunk) , CONGRESS , SP, BSP ,BJP..that's why they losing their political power in west UP. NO RLD jat leader was present at panchayt, from congress ( harendera malik) was there but he was thrown away. As it was agony against muslims so BJP leadesr came in front and jats have very little leadership in BJP in west UP so all BJPs were gujjars/thakurs..and Jat leaders of other parties did not want to lose their muslim vote bank so they did not have much participation...Hope now you understand a bit. In a nutshell, jats of west UP are very confused, divided on vote bank. t is all due to this ajeet singh failure. There was a golden time when all were united..and west UP jats were realized as a force not even in UP but in entire india..all the praise for great chaudhary charan singh..and all the hell for these dumbs ajeet singh and jayant chaudhary...west UP ke jatto ne inhe bahut chances diaye but yeh din pe din matti hi palleet kar rahe hai......

waise jat iss baar BJP ke paksh main jaa rahe hai modi ke hawa aur recent development ke kaaran..lekin yeh bhi ek sach hai ki jatto ki daal kam hi galti hai BJP ke saath...par iss baar to BJP hi best option dikh rahi hai
 
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Sarv Jati Mahapanchayat

who told you?...panchayat was called by BKU/baliyan khap and gathwala khap (baba harkishan)..other castes people alsp very joined due to their grievances against muslims..but they were few in numbers...hardly 10%
 
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who told you?...panchayat was called by BKU/baliyan khap and gathwala khap (baba harkishan)..other castes people alsp very joined due to their grievances against muslims..but they were few in numbers...hardly 10%

That is what I was telling Prashant. It was not a caste based panchayat or specifically for it. It was an issue based panchayat. It was an open gathering called by BKU & Jat leaders for putting pressure on administration regarding Kawal incident and named as bahu beti bacho panchayat. Those non Jats who were inline with the cause came to gathering as well.
 
..west UP ke jatto ne inhe bahut chances diaye but yeh din pe din matti hi palleet kar rahe hai......
Ek bar galti te Sompal Shastri jita dia tha, uska result out hue saanjh bhi na hui thi logo ke gharo main chulhe jalne band ho lie the gham main--- re bhai mhare wala har ga...
 
allowed ???? tumhara samagik gyan kitna kamzoor hai desi .........bure waqt mai jo kaam aaye wo hi saccha dost hai...........UP mai jeena mushkil ho raha hai...apni jaan bachene koi ..aaye to usse bhi koi permission thode hi leni patdti hai.........waise appko iss baat ka jyada dukh hai ki gujjar aur thakur jatto ke saath kui aaye ??ya iska ki mussamano ne jaato ke saath jo atyachaar kia?????

Bure waqt main jo kaam aaye wo dost par jo aag main ghee daal kar roti seke? Ye hi kaam in logo ne kia

Aur bhai kisi te bhi boojh lie, Gujjar jato te kitna jalle hai- jag jahir hai ye bat
 
What exactly is the plan and of whom Sir?

Someone already said in one thread that it is the 10% voting minority who decide the future of 85% majority? Probably swami is suggesting a counter plan :)

Bhai,

I hope you see the video, and Swamy's take and understand yourself instead of jumping the gun with assumptions.
 
In theory, This was neither a khap panchayat nor a jat panchayat..panchayat was called by several jat khap leaders and BKU (Bhartiya kisan union) and "bahu-beti bachao panchayat" was the name given to it. But it was dominantly a jat panchayat because jat boys were killed. Votes of jats are divided among RLD (ajeet singh, big chunk) , CONGRESS , SP, BSP ,BJP..that's why they losing their political power in west UP. NO RLD jat leader was present at panchayt, from congress ( harendera malik) was there but he was thrown away. As it was agony against muslims so BJP leadesr came in front and jats have very little leadership in BJP in west UP so all BJPs were gujjars/thakurs..and Jat leaders of other parties did not want to lose their muslim vote bank so they did not have much participation...Hope now you understand a bit. In a nutshell, jats of west UP are very confused, divided on vote bank. t is all due to this ajeet singh failure. There was a golden time when all were united..and west UP jats were realized as a force not even in UP but in entire india..all the praise for great chaudhary charan singh..and all the hell for these dumbs ajeet singh and jayant chaudhary...west UP ke jatto ne inhe bahut chances diaye but yeh din pe din matti hi palleet kar rahe hai......

waise jat iss baar BJP ke paksh main jaa rahe hai modi ke hawa aur recent development ke kaaran..lekin yeh bhi ek sach hai ki jatto ki daal kam hi galti hai BJP ke saath...par iss baar to BJP hi best option dikh rahi hai

Hope they will be united now.
 
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I said look at the video and see Swamy's policy, you said you saw it, you got the answer. If others want to know, there is the whole show to see, why do you want me to transcribe it? He used simple and plain english and I am sure everyone can understand. Let us please not pick on each other like this, fair?


No I Don't please elaborate for everyone's benefit.
 
So the exposed game plan is he wants hindus to not vote as yadavs, jats etc. That is what he said in video.
 
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