पी एम हो तो मोदी जैसा...........

[rajpaldular]

मोदी की ऎसी दिवानगी, हैरान हो जाएंगे आप

बीजेपी के प्रधानमंत्री पद के उम्मीदवार नरेंद्र मोदी का हर कोई दीवाना बना हुआ है। लेकिन राजस्थान में एक कपल ऎसी दिवानगी ने सबको हैरत में डाल दिया।

अब तक तो मोदी के नाम का टैटू, कैप्स, टी शर्ट, पोस्टर, चाय और जूस ये सब तो पहले ही आप सुन और देख चुके है।

लेकिन शादी के कार्ड पर मोदी की तस्वीर आपने कभी नहीं देखी होगी। जी हां, मोदी के एक प्रशंसक ने उनके लिए अपना प्यार जताने के लिए अपनी शादी के कार्ड पर उनकी फोटो छपवाई है।

कार्ड पर भगवान गणेश के अलावा नरेंद्र मोदी की फोटो छपी है। राजस्थान के इस कपल का कहना है कि मोदी इस सम्मान के हकदार हैं।

मोदी के प्रशंसक अक्षय ने कहा कि मोदी की फोटो अपनी शादी के कार्ड पर छपवाना अच्छा लगा, ये हमारे लिए अच्छा भाग्य लेकर आएगा।

अक्षय ने कहा कि मोदी एक महान इंसान है और हमारे देश के होने वाले प्रधानमंत्री भी है।

http://www.sumanasa.com/go/5yZlR

 

[swaich]

Do you want to follow me ?

I asked if you follow that principle since you ask others to follow it.

Comparison will be done whenever anti-Hindu brigade bring 2002 riots (where MODI got clean chit ) by neglecting all others. For Rajiv & Mulayam, there is no judiciary at all for MODI Judidciary is there but powerless.

Then talk to the anti-Hindu brigade wherever they exist.

Oh come on you use a lot of sarcasm instead of rebutting with logic. You dont need my approval , keep writing what you like and let others decide.

Your definition of logic is throwing Wikipedia links of unrelated incidents from another part of the country to prove a point, right?

I will keep writing wherever and on whatever I feel like.

You can't say anything baseless & run away. If you target someone who got grilled for 10 years & got clean chit from Supreme court monitored agency , you should have some material in your posts. It can't be proven by saying that Police, Judiciary & all agencies are corrupt and couldn't investigate Mr. Modi. If you have something evident instead of cribbing the whole system for your loss then come again.

Have you gone through all of my posts in this thread? There are plenty of facts that point to state's complicity, including Modi's.

Swaich, I dont want to get into this but as I see your posts praising urself in knowledge n ur efforts to enlighten me. I would say lets leave it to other to decide about knowledge quotient of you as well as me. One more thing , by continuously raising fingers on 2002 riots , investigating agencies, police, judiciary, system ... are you doing social service or self service ?

Social service of course - isn't the system meant to serve the society?

Hope my line count was ok this time.

 

[swaich]

Preparators of 1984 knew why they're killing the 'innocent' leader, so do defenders (that they took revenge from the entire community, And preparators of 2002 knew why are killing 'innocent' people in train.

And my Sikh jatt friend (Signature: 'Pagdi Sambhal Jatta') is going bearish on former and bullish on later with every nerve of his body.

Bhai Pagdi sambhal !!!!

Didn't get your point. Most of the dead - in trains, their homes, streets and mohallas etc were innocent. The guilty fight elections, become ministers and even PM candidates.

The point about being 'Sikh Jatt' was supposed to advise me about directing my energies to the 'appropriate' issues, right?

 

[swaich]

Now you have come to that extent so that it becomes easy for you to understand the difference between BJP & others. I would take this opportunity to visualize difference in ur narrow vision.

BJP freed terrorists to save lives of 200 odd citizens hijacked & kept in Taliban ruled Afghanistan supported by ISI with no diplomatic links with India. India didn't recognize Taliban government hence diplomacy failed completely. The pressure of relatives in new Delhi on NDA govt. was mounting every minute. The number of terrorist freed were 3.

Others freed 5 militants when daughter of a muslim Kashmiri politicians, tilted towards separatists ideology was kidnapped. The same happened in our country no external affairs or international diplomacy was required. Militants were free in J&K , welcomed by a huge number of crowd in our own country.

So an aggressive nationalist party released terrorists instead of exploring other options. Irrespective of whether it was done for 200 people or 1 person, releasing terrorists is unforgivable.

You will again see this as blowing the trumpet of my own knowledge but can you explain how Mufti Mohammed Sayeed was tilted towards sepratist ideology? I didn't know serving Home Ministers could manage that.

When Modi gets clean chit you blame judiciary & go to extent of terming SC powerless. Why don't you blame judiciary here which gives a lot of time to convicted terrorists before execution ? Why double standards ?

I do blame them. But releasing terrorists in exchange for hostages is not in the hands of the judiciary.

PS : - Personally speaking, I expected a better solution to IC 814 but reality only diplomats & politicians know what they were into.

I think it was one of the biggest international embarrassments we faced in a long time. This and 26/11 were our biggest defensive failures. I did read later that NSG commandos impersonating bureaucrats had accompanied Jaswant Singh right uptill the tarmac in Kandahar but couldn't do anything as the Taliban didn't allow them to get close to the planes. Actually, the window of opportunity for a military operation was lost when we let the plane take off from Amritsar. But perhaps an Entebbe like Israeli operation could have been planned in Kandahar.

 

[swaich]

Two simple acts by Modi on 28th Feb show how he gave a clear cut approval to what was to happen for the next few days:

1. The dead bodies of the Godhra burning victims were handed to the VHP. The bodies could easily have been cremated by the govt but they were somehow handed over to a non-government organization well-known for communal violence. The VHP, true to its nature took them on a procession to Ahmedabad, more than 50+ kms away instead of cremating them straight away. What better way of inciting mobs and giving them a wink to go ahead and make mayhem?

2. By 28th afternoon, VHP declared a bandh. What does the Modi govt. do? It sponsors the bandh and instead of calming people calls the attack as an act by 'terrorists'. This ties the hand of the police which now cannot conduct the preventive arrests of VHP and Bajrang Dal leaders as a precautionary measure. As a result on the night of 28th feb while the neighbouring states of Maha and Raj put hundreds of history sheeters behind bars, the Gujarat Police arrested just two - both were Muslims.



We can still ignore these facts and repeat in unison - "But the SIT gave him a clean chit!"

 

[desijat]

सितारों के आगे जहाँ और भी है, अभी इश्क़ के इम्तिहान और भी है
तू है शाहीन, परवाज़ है काम तेरा, तेरे सामने आसमान और भी है

I am strong-headed. I know, that was a bad joke

On a serious note - I am amazed how people can ignore obvious facts. Just want to see the extent to which one can keep on ignoring.

 

[rathiji]

I asked if you follow that principle since you ask others to follow it.

If you see my previous post I said all riots were same for me n political establishment is responsible anyhow for all. did you see before commenting ?

Then talk to the anti-Hindu brigade wherever they exist.

They do exist in form of individuals who even after a clean chit to Modi cry day & night.

Your definition of logic is throwing Wikipedia links of unrelated incidents from another part of the country to prove a point, right?

I will keep writing wherever and on whatever I feel like.

Don't you like Wikipedia ? another part of country ? didn't wandhamne happen when Abdullah was CM ? Please keep writing otherwise I would feel lonely on this forum.

Have you gone through all of my posts in this thread? There are plenty of facts that point to state's complicity, including Modi's.

I think that will be better if you provide facts to SIT, supreme court, Zakia Jafri or Teesta Setalwad. Your facts could help in conviction of Modi.

Social service of course - isn't the system meant to serve the society?

Hope my line count was ok this time.

Keep doing this unique kind of social service you could help Modi in becoming Prime Minister .

 

[rathiji]

Two simple acts by Modi on 28th Feb show how he gave a clear cut approval to what was to happen for the next few days:

1. The dead bodies of the Godhra burning victims were handed to the VHP. The bodies could easily have been cremated by the govt but they were somehow handed over to a non-government organization well-known for communal violence. The VHP, true to its nature took them on a procession to Ahmedabad, more than 50+ kms away instead of cremating them straight away. What better way of inciting mobs and giving them a wink to go ahead and make mayhem?

2. By 28th afternoon, VHP declared a bandh. What does the Modi govt. do? It sponsors the bandh and instead of calming people calls the attack as an act by 'terrorists'. This ties the hand of the police which now cannot conduct the preventive arrests of VHP and Bajrang Dal leaders as a precautionary measure. As a result on the night of 28th feb while the neighbouring states of Maha and Raj put hundreds of history sheeters behind bars, the Gujarat Police arrested just two - both were Muslims.



We can still ignore these facts and repeat in unison - "But the SIT gave him a clean chit!"

you are very much concerned about 2002 riots & i believe you being an Indian citizen. come on give these facts to investigating agencies or file a PIL or something which could help victims in getting justice. we are with you in the cause .

 

[rathiji]

So an aggressive nationalist party released terrorists instead of exploring other options. Irrespective of whether it was done for 200 people or 1 person, releasing terrorists is unforgivable.

You will again see this as blowing the trumpet of my own knowledge but can you explain how Mufti Mohammed Sayeed was tilted towards sepratist ideology? I didn't know serving Home Ministers could manage that.

good you read before replying that He was home minister. But there is no need of trumpet as people already knew about it .

I do blame them. But releasing terrorists in exchange for hostages is not in the hands of the judiciary.

fast trail is in hands of judiciary.

I think it was one of the biggest international embarrassments we faced in a long time. This and 26/11 were our biggest defensive failures. I did read later that NSG commandos impersonating bureaucrats had accompanied Jaswant Singh right uptill the tarmac in Kandahar but couldn't do anything as the Taliban didn't allow them to get close to the planes. Actually, the window of opportunity for a military operation was lost when we let the plane take off from Amritsar. But perhaps an Entebbe like Israeli operation could have been planned in Kandahar.

Hmmm... operation Entebbe . do you support Israel & its operations ? Shall India do all of them ?
Mr. knowledgeable, any idea about Gilad Shalit ? Now read take ur time n come again.

 

[virj]

You make a lot of sense, Vir bhai. But allow me to be distrustful of the system - judiciary, elected reps, police etc as I have seen a lot of suffering at the hands of the system. So for me it doesn't end if the system found Modi not guilty. The chapter doesn't close for me because I know the system has imperfections and can be subverted. That's always been the case with every system

I also understand when comparisons are made. Muslim or minority life isn't anymore precious than Hindu life. But here's the thing - do we let one go because we let others go? Or do we first punish the others by some sequence and then come to Modi. They should all be made accountable if you ask me. They all deserve to be punished. That is what I want.

I don't harbour anything against any Modi supporter. People have opinions and we believe what we want to believe. Its futile to do so. Our choices are shaped by our experiences which keep on changing. Who know when people's opinion change?

So what do I want to do about it, you'd ask? Well I will continue to speak wherever I can - with friends, colleagues, social media etc. Because I believe if we don't speak for what we truly believe in (as you rightly understood from my post) we will do the biggest injustice to ourselves. And that's a bigger crime than anything else worth fighting for.


P.S. Just the other day I was party to a discussion with two AVPs of my org when they said Modi and NDA will spark nationalism in India due to their aggressive attitude. This from people who would run away to US if someone offered them a Green Card. I only had to mention IC 184 to end the discussion. The fact that I am still working in the same org means people are not judgmental or I'd have been branded a 'Khangressi sickular' if we were in social media.

While I cannot disagree to lot of points in your posts the red point is my problem here. Why did we let other go? Why no one is talking about it? I was very young to understand the events happened in 1984 in and around my city. If I look back these congress goons tried to destroy the social fabric of my city. They put fire to some sikh houses, Many Sikhs had to cut their hair so that they cannot be identified easily(you being a Sikh can understand that how painful it is for a sikh to cut his hair). People from Haryana refused to go to Punjab on Govt Duties (like elections). Sikhs were scared to come to Haryana. And I can tell you who did it. Cowards led by Congress and their supporters. I can tell you why they did it. To get promotion and some of them did get promotion. There were lot of Sikh families in my city which had to leave and move to Punjab. I am sure this is a story of many cities in Haryana and Delhi.

There are no SIT formed till date for 1984. Cases are still going on after so many years. Culprits were awarded. More than 250 FIRs not even registered. Commissions were formed but were they allowed to submit their independent report? I can go on and on but comparing these two isn't my point and intention.

My problem is why people have never branded, labelled Rajiv Gandhi and Congress party as murders. Why this family always get scot free? Why we hid the truth of Nehru's personal life, Why we hid the truth behind 1962 war? Why we couldn't tell that Nehru did a Blunder?

You (all this media, Congress and wise people of this country call Modi Murderer is not my problem. Problem is why Rajiv Gandhi is not a mass murderer? कातिल तो छोड़िए आपने उसे भारत रत्न से नवाज डाला?

Problem is why this family get special treatment? Why separate standards? Its a lame excuse that :do we let one go because we let others go? Reality is that you let this family go everytime they did the crime. You have no guts to take them on.

Irony is on one hand you are saying that Hindu and Muslim life all are equal but their killers are getting different treatment. I am with Congress and wise people of this country when they call Modi Murderer provided they call Rajiv mass Murderer first otherwise to me all this is politically motivated crap.

P.S : You is not Jaspreet it refer to all those people who come up with similar arguments.

 

[sandeepsirohi]

भाई, यहाँ मेरठ में कल मोदी की रैली है , ओर जो सोचा नहीं था वो भी दिखा है | पिछले कई दिनों से सडको पर मोदी की रैली के लोग निमंत्रण पत्र बाट रहे है | हिन्दुओ की बात तो छोड़ो मुस्लिम बाहुल्य इलाको में भी चाय की दुकाने मोदी की रैली के लिए चाय फ्री मै लोगो को पिला रही है | कुल मिलाकर मिला जुला तो नहीं पर मोदी का ज्यादा प्रभाव नजर आ रहे है | वोट की बात तो नहीं कह सकता पर कुल मिलाकर मोदी की रैली की बड़े पैमाने पर सफलता के आसार नजर आ रहे है | बाकि कल के बाद अपडेट दे दूंगा कि क्या हुआ |

पी अस : ये केवल मोदी की मेरठ की रैली के बारे में है | जो भी विश्लेषक है वो इसे अपने ढंग से बदलने/समझने/सोचने के लिए बिलकुल स्वतंत्र है |:stupid:

 

[swaich]

you are very much concerned about 2002 riots & i believe you being an Indian citizen. come on give these facts to investigating agencies or file a PIL or something which could help victims in getting justice. we are with you in the cause .

That is being done, but what do you have to say about the information I shared. Does that implicate Modi or not?

 

[swaich]

good you read before replying that He was home minister. But there is no need of trumpet as people already knew about it .

Which people? Not you I suppose - the one talking about a separatist leaning Home Minister whose daughter was kidnapped.

fast trail is in hands of judiciary.

Only partially. The proofs, witnesses etc have to be shared by investigating agencies on time.

Hmmm... operation Entebbe . do you support Israel & its operations ? Shall India do all of them ?

India can go for targeted assassinations on foreign soil like Israel does for Hamas and other allied militant orgs. No point letting known pests like Dawood, Syed Salhauddin and Co live. But I guess its been mentioned a few times that its not our official policy.

Mr. knowledgeable, any idea about Gilad Shalit ? Now read take ur time n come again.

Well the name sounded familiar but I had to Google him. I guess your point here is that if India were to follow Israel, it's fine to release terrorists. But the point here is that the release of over a 1000 prisoners by Israel is an aberration by their standards. They hardly ever negotiate and use force (some say excessive) with militant orgs. Whereas negotiation and release of prisoners is rather an unfortunate norm for us. Anyways, this is off topic.

 

[swaich]

While I cannot disagree to lot of points in your posts the red point is my problem here. Why did we let other go? Why no one is talking about it? I was very young to understand the events happened in 1984 in and around my city. If I look back these congress goons tried to destroy the social fabric of my city. They put fire to some sikh houses, Many Sikhs had to cut their hair so that they cannot be identified easily(you being a Sikh can understand that how painful it is for a sikh to cut his hair). People from Haryana refused to go to Punjab on Govt Duties (like elections). Sikhs were scared to come to Haryana. And I can tell you who did it. Cowards led by Congress and their supporters. I can tell you why they did it. To get promotion and some of them did get promotion. There were lot of Sikh families in my city which had to leave and move to Punjab. I am sure this is a story of many cities in Haryana and Delhi.

There are no SIT formed till date for 1984. Cases are still going on after so many years. Culprits were awarded. More than 250 FIRs not even registered. Commissions were formed but were they allowed to submit their independent report? I can go on and on but comparing these two isn't my point and intention.

My problem is why people have never branded, labelled Rajiv Gandhi and Congress party as murders. Why this family always get scot free? Why we hid the truth of Nehru's personal life, Why we hid the truth behind 1962 war? Why we couldn't tell that Nehru did a Blunder?

You (all this media, Congress and wise people of this country call Modi Murderer is not my problem. Problem is why Rajiv Gandhi is not a mass murderer? कातिल तो छोड़िए आपने उसे भारत रत्न से नवाज डाला?

Problem is why this family get special treatment? Why separate standards? Its a lame excuse that :do we let one go because we let others go? Reality is that you let this family go everytime they did the crime. You have no guts to take them on.

Irony is on one hand you are saying that Hindu and Muslim life all are equal but their killers are getting different treatment. I am with Congress and wise people of this country when they call Modi Murderer provided they call Rajiv mass Murderer first otherwise to me all this is politically motivated crap.

P.S : You is not Jaspreet it refer to all those people who come up with similar arguments.

I agree with you. And blame "You" for all that they have allowed to happen. The Congress is a pastmaster at cosmetic actions aimed to win votes. Just yesterday I came across a minority targeted TV ad by them. It made me cringe.

Lets demand action for 1984, 2002 and every riot and make sure no one goes scotfree. But not one by one, all at once.

 

[singhvp]

मोदी की ऎसी दिवानगी, हैरान हो जाएंगे आप

बीजेपी के प्रधानमंत्री पद के उम्मीदवार नरेंद्र मोदी का हर कोई दीवाना बना हुआ है। लेकिन राजस्थान में ..... अपनी शादी के कार्ड पर उनकी फोटो छपवाई है।

राजपाल साहब, चैक करके बताइयो इस दीवानगी मै भी कोए सच्चाई है या लोगों ने वैसे झूठ फैला रक्खी है I मुझे तो यकीन नहीं आया इस रिपोर्ट पर I

"At last the horrible secret is out. Courtesy an Indian Express scoop, we know that Modi has a wife, whom he hasn’t seen or talked with in the last 42 years.

Apparently, they never got divorced. Jashodaben is reported to have said they only saw each other occasionally for the first three years, of which they spent only three months together, since Modi travelled a lot on Shakha business. Thereafter Modi applied himself solely to the RSS. Jashodaben, as advised by Modi, got herself educated and worked as a teacher. She never got any support from Modi, or his family, but was not ill-treated either, by him, or his family. The marriage simply died away and she returned to her brother’s home."


http://ahlu-india.com/2014/02/01/modis-wife/

 

[rajpaldular]

WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE FOR NARENDRA MODI (15 MINUTES VIDEO)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym7qpbyqwRM

 

[krishdel]

No one can ignore law of nature. Jaspreet Ji all those were Hindu pilgrims. It is like some burn alive your elder. By nature 90 % will retaliate . It may be only 10% like you who may not retaliate. And JATS will definitely 99% will retaliate. Science says give solution for root cause then other post problem will be resolved automatically. Here root cause of riot was burning alive of 80 Hindu pilgrims.

 

[rathiji]

Which people? Not you I suppose ..................................

Modi’s personal criminal responsibility for the 2002 riots is no worse than Rajiv Gandhi’s for the 1984 anti-Sikh riots, Sudhakarrao Naik’s for the 1992-93 Mumbai riots, Akhilesh/Mulayam Singh for Muzzafarnagar riots, Tarun Gagoi for Assam riots and every chief minister’s for riots that have happened under his watch. Let’s end that campaign once and for all.

Politics is a game of tactics & BJP is definite winner of this anti-Modi campaign . But if still anti-modi campaigners are not ready to estimate the loss let me take this opportunity to suggest them, The longer you dwell on his direct role in 2002 — for which evidence is thin — the longer his “clean chit” will be used to fuel MODI for PM campaign. :tears_of_joy:

 

[rajatsingh]

Gujarat mie dange bhadkaye gaye the na ki bhadke the........in sub k picche modi sarkaar ka haath bataya jaata hie...........tabi to Vajpeyee ji ne bi Modi ko press confrence mie keha tha ki "Mukhyamantri ka kartavya RajDharam hota hie". is per modi bhadak gaya tha........aur usi time modi nie kaha...........ji wahi to ker raha hoon............iss baat se saaf pata chalta hie ki, bjp ke top leaders ko pata tha, dange bhadkaye guye the...............aur issi vajah se Advani, Suhsma aur Vajpeyee jo modi se naraz the.............

 

[rajpaldular]

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