Jats must Avoid falling prey to Communal hateredness

[rkumar]

Indeed many of the Muslims are Jats !

God save those students whom you teach history.

RK^2

 

[upendersingh]

Indeed many of the Muslims are Jats !

Friend, come out of your imaginary world at earliest. The fact is this that some lacs of Muslim Jats are in India (around 2-3 lacs) and many are in Pakistani Punjab. If some Kurd posts here that he has a Jat surname, then it doesn't mean all Kurds or mostly Arabs are Jats. You can not prove that apart from Pakistani Punjab and north-west India mainly Jats are found elsewhere in majority? So stop spreading rumors.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh
Indeed many of the Muslims are Jats !

Friend, come out of your imaginary world at earliest. The fact is this that some lacs of Muslim Jats are in India (around 2-3 lacs) and many are in Pakistani Punjab. If some Kurd posts here that he has a Jat surname, then it doesn't mean all Kurds or mostly Arabs are Jats. You can not prove that apart from Pakistani Punjab and north-west India mainly Jats are found elsewhere in majority? So stop spreading rumors.

Thanks for agreeing to my statement !

 

[skharb]

God save those students whom you teach history.

RK^2

kal khand sahab sarma lay likhan t pahlam iss histroy n paddh k naukri laggya hoga kitte
kuch jat joo gulam mansikta k h ya too woo landless rahe h ya unko gaon m social weightege nahi mila unke baddo ko bhi wo naukri karke gulam ho chooke h puure tor per
accha yahi rahga ki wo jat na kha apne app kp kisi bhamman arr pakistani raffugge k gooddy chally ja !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[cooljat]

Bhai pee ke likhta hai kya? Sab cocktail khinchdi se bana di .. Hindi main likh ya Haryanwii main ya fir Angreji main hi lekin word formation aur sense ko to theek kar mere yaar!!

kal khand sahab sarma lay likhan t pahlam iss histroy n paddh k naukri laggya hoga kitte
kuch jat joo gulam mansikta k h ya too woo landless rahe h ya unko gaon m social weightege nahi mila unke baddo ko bhi wo naukri karke gulam ho chooke h puure tor per
accha yahi rahga ki wo jat na kha apne app kp kisi bhamman arr pakistani raffugge k gooddy chally ja !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[skharb]

Bhai pee ke likhta hai kya? Sab cocktail khinchdi se bana di .. Hindi main likh ya Haryanwii main ya fir Angreji main hi lekin word formation aur sense ko to theek kar mere yaar!!

ha ha haaaaaa..............arr bhai isme bhi kimme hindu muslim ka roola s kay ............tharrha na bera k baat kad lyu .........ya s man ki baat modi ki dhall

 

[abhikrana]

It seems more than anyone else, you are doing the job of the preacher here.

It seems you have visited the holy land and are now bringing to the illiterate people here the ultimate truth revealed to you in person by your ultimate almighty.

You so amusingly talk of communal politics. You want to know what is communal politics. The masterpiece of communal politics are COMMUNAL VIOLENCE BILL and the SACHAR COMMITTEE REPORT both sponsored by your Khan-gress party.

Read the communal violence bill and justify it if you can. It is as discriminatory and venomous as the preachings in your documents (from which you preach).

Ok, so what type of preacher is he?

Do you decide or he decides?

Thanks for your conclusion on what I obey or disobey.

Tomorrow you will also give more judgement around what I eat, What I drink, What I do etc etc.

You know everything about me and others in this world. Antaryami saheb.

 

[upendersingh]

Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh
Indeed many of the Muslims are Jats !

Friend, come out of your imaginary world at earliest. The fact is this that some lacs of Muslim Jats are in India (around 2-3 lacs) and many are in Pakistani Punjab. If some Kurd posts here that he has a Jat surname, then it doesn't mean all Kurds or mostly Arabs are Jats. You can not prove that apart from Pakistani Punjab and north-west India mainly Jats are found elsewhere in majority? So stop spreading rumors.

Thanks for agreeing to my statement !

Friend, You are trying to spin the things. If you think I didn't have it in mind writing 'many' then you are not right. First I wrote 1 crore, but as it is not sure, so I deleted 1 crore and wrote 'many'. Still you should not be thankful, because 'many' Muslim Jats are in Pakistani Punjab and not in India. Thread is about Indian Jats and here Muslim Jats are just 2-3 Lacs. So if due to fear of Islamic forces almost all Jats in Pakistani Punjab converted to Islam, then it doesn't mean all are cowards. There are crores of Jats in India who are Hindu and 2-3 lacs Muslim Jats don't have any importance as far as your claim is concerned.

 

[rathiji]

Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh
Indeed many of the Muslims are Jats !



Thanks for agreeing to my statement !

You are absolutely right Dr Rajpal. Now you can feel vindicative.

 

[samarkadian]

kal khand sahab sarma lay likhan t pahlam iss histroy n paddh k naukri laggya hoga kitte
kuch jat joo gulam mansikta k h ya too woo landless rahe h ya unko gaon m social weightege nahi mila unke baddo ko bhi wo naukri karke gulam ho chooke h puure tor per
accha yahi rahga ki wo jat na kha apne app kp kisi bhamman arr pakistani raffugge k gooddy chally ja !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kharab Sahab,

The ones with boot licking hunger of Brahminism will only spit venom on brethren. No gutless RSSiac half pant on JL has answered on the MSP on wheat,rice of central and state govt. They don't bother about how the bread in a Jat home would come in next season. There balls are so shameless that their shame is shameful of them of being a Jat zamidar. It clearly proves that they have nothing to do except dividing Jats on the basis of religion.

 

[samarkadian]

God save those students whom you teach history.

RK^2

Why is that so? He is a fine teacher and student of the modern history. Why don't you debate with him on that minus your google prowess.? Will you?

 

[samarkadian]

Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh
Indeed many of the Muslims are Jats !






Friend, You are trying to spin the things. If you think I didn't have it in mind writing 'many' then you are not right. First I wrote 1 crore, but as it is not sure, so I deleted 1 crore and wrote 'many'. Still you should not be thankful, because 'many' Muslim Jats are in Pakistani Punjab and not in India. Thread is about Indian Jats and here Muslim Jats are just 2-3 Lacs. So if due to fear of Islamic forces almost all Jats in Pakistani Punjab converted to Islam, then it doesn't mean all are cowards. There are crores of Jats in India who are Hindu and 2-3 lacs Muslim Jats don't have any importance as far as your claim is concerned.

Upender you were crying your pants about muslims in your village during past riots. Now you are coming with it and asking the significance of 2-3 lacs?

 

[samarkadian]

It seems more than anyone else, you are doing the job of the preacher here.

It seems you have visited the holy land and are now bringing to the illiterate people here the ultimate truth revealed to you in person by your ultimate almighty.

You so amusingly talk of communal politics. You want to know what is communal politics. The masterpiece of communal politics are COMMUNAL VIOLENCE BILL and the SACHAR COMMITTEE REPORT both sponsored by your Khan-gress party.

Read the communal violence bill and justify it if you can. It is as discriminatory and venomous as the preachings in your documents (from which you preach).

Dear Abhik,

Come out of your obvious outcry of this and that congress and put the blame on full majority BJP led ( read proHindu) govt for that which they so much made a fuss on Uniform Civil Code. Do they lack will or completely lied to the nation of Hindus as per you?

 

[samarkadian]

I think, in every thinking Jat (read Indian) mind there is a big conflict. There are variety of forces at work. In the end, we have to decide whether we consider ourselves the descendants or vanshdhars of ideals precipitated in our mind by invoking names such as Ram, Krishan, etc. or by Muhammad, and his ilk. Or that whether we consider ourselves to be descendants of a civilization 5000, 7000 or may be even 12000 years old or that which is 1400 years old with the most venomous history. Etc.

Clearly these are conflicting ideals. They have as much in common as 0 and 1 do in computing parlance. In the end, if somebody tries to find a commonality, somebody can find a commonality between 0 and 1 as well - saying that at least both are numbers (and that in fact is what "secular" people do). But I would say who are you trying to delude with that! If these ideals are the same than why don't all Muslims become Hindus or vice-versa, and for what did we fought against islam for 1000 years (and still do)? Clearly, when you talk about Hinduism and Islam - there is more than "a path to God" - whatever that means. While it may or may not be true that all paths lead to God (or indeed whether there is such a thing as God or not), but certainly Islam (or Hinduism for that matter) is more than merely a "path to God" - and that is where the conflict lies. So trying to fool ourselves that all are the same doesn't really cut ice - you can pretend that it does as much as you want - but it doesn't.

Just to give an example, do even the non-vegetarian Jats approve bali of animals in the name of Hinduism (let alone Islam)? Can we really coexist with a neighbor who goes on a butchering spree every Durga Puja. What about muslims, who kill the cows venerated nonetheless, if not held sacred by us, and that too in the most brutal halal manner? Can Jats really come to terms with such cruelty? In one scenario, we can actually, that is if we become hypocrites like Brahmins and Banias - who say something and have something else on their mind. But in that case we will have to drop singing bards of our Independent character, etc. But do you really want to become the same as Brahmins in the name of secularism? That is your choice to make, whether you want to become exponent of so-called ganga-jamuni tahzib - where everything is allowed as long as you can go through your life - much like a worm - in the name of secularism.

Now, coming to Muslim Jats: They have already made a choice. And barring a few desolate individuals, they largely have their loyalties to Arabian values - which are at extreme odds with our values BTW. Even if they are proud of their Jat ancestry, they clearly don't think that to be in anyway a strong binding glue vis-a-vis Hindu Jats, at least not strong enough when compared with fellow Muslims. The same thing is true in case of Pakistanis. Most Pakistanis very well know that they were Hindus once, but does that make them think even for a moment when they carry out all those terrorist activities against descendents of their own ancestors. Aren't the same Afghan inhabitants destroying (or rather destroyed) same Bamyan Buddha - whom there ancestors must have built with great toil and effort. Essentially Islam is destruction of local culture, and its complete replacement with Islamic culture - sometimes gradual and sometimes abrupt. And thus the Muslim Jats in general feel no nostalgia.

It is only non-Muslim Jats who keep on clinging to this nostalgia. We even hear the invocation of Chhotu Ram, Sikandar Hyat, etc. What about so many wars we fought against Muslims? Do they disappear without trace in secular parlance? Does the fact that we fought for so many years with Muslims and Mughals mean nothing to us now?

We also hear how Hindu and Muslim Jats used to live in one mohalla, and how they all went together to all social events. If that was the case, why at all were they Muslims in the first place, is the question. If they have to do all things that are Hindu, why do they need themselves to be labelled Muslim at all? The real answer lies in the fact that one group of people takes 10 generations to radicalize, and the other one can take 20. But, once a group of people is under the influence of Islam they or their posterity will radicalize nonetheless on one pretext or another (BTW, these pretexts are often called grievances). Somebody has aptly pointed out how things played out in Muzaffarnagar and Pakistan, and about the role of the same mullay Jats - the once live-in-mohalla-partners.

Blah blah blah blah and finally one sided bullshit..Take a hike..

 

[samarkadian]

Vikas,
On a lighter note....Secular word se kuch fellow jatlanders issa muh bana le hai jissa kisse police aale ne mama keh do jab wo banaya kare

Bhai mere muh ki baat karu t aage n dikhta nahi ak mai key bou killa m..Jara bataiye Amit Shah/Modi/ Khattar t bujh k n ....j itna e tu muh dekhna jaane s t

 

[samarkadian]

To the people here who are supporting the so-called minority here in Trilokpuri riots - Mata ki chowki cannot be setup in India? where do you expect to set it up - Saudi Arabia?????

If Hindus are not free to practice their religion in their own country where can they practice their religion freely without fear or prejudice.

There is a very dangerous nexus between minority appeasement politicians, media (full with minority member news professionals) and the pseudo seculars in the society who since independence have pushed the Hindus to the wall. They create wrong picture of Hindus as the wrongdoers and the so-called minority as victims.

If one community did not pay attention to their education since independence, are Hindus responsible for their backwardness?? If one community does not reform itself are Hindus responsible for it?

Why is there no UNIFORM CIVIL CODE in India despite all being Indian citizens?
Why the anti-social and anti-national elements like Bukhari have not been arrested despite non-bailable warrants standing against their names for the past 10 years? Are the members of a particular community above the law of the land just because they belong to a particular community whereas Hindus are crushed (many times wrongly) by the law enforcement agencies.

Under the BJP govt. we see some hope that all citizens (including Hindus) can reclaim the right of being first-class citizens again. For more than a thousand years, we Hindus have lived lives not worthy of even being called second-class citizens under the mughals, British and later the Khan-gress.

It is time for all Hindus to unite peacefully and think of the betterment of the society and the nation.

How come you over look the Devdassi pratha, Untouchables of the HINDU society very much proapgated Brahiminsm in Hinduism? Swacch Bharat but nothing for cleaners( Chude chamar and shyt pickers) ? Your temples allow them to enter?

 

[sahij]

Blah blah blah blah and finally one sided bullshit..Take a hike..

Sorry Samarkadianji, I can't produce bullshit from many sides like you. So you enjoy your unique ability. And finally take a cab to the gutter where your belong, don't tell me to take a hike or anything.

 

[samarkadian]

Sorry Samarkadianji, I can't produce bullshit from many sides like you. So you enjoy your unique ability. And finally take a cab to the gutter where your belong, don't tell me to take a hike or anything.

Same to you with double the intensity. Cheers, Enjoy!! Take a hike and get lost.(Parre n mar!!)

 

[sahij]

Same to you with double the intensity. Cheers, Enjoy!! Take a hike and get lost.(Parre n mar!!)

LOL. "Same to you" - good enjoy your kiddish talk.

 

[samarkadian]

LOL. "Same to you" - good enjoy your kiddish talk. Aur apna gobar apne muh pa lip ar khush rah.

Yeah keep entertaining me ...Aage n ho thathere..Khulle pisse konya... but keep dancing..