RK Saab as an MLA
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rohittewatia
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hmmm...chuskee leykarr...
prashantacmet
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Bhai saahab kaun si party tai.. ar kaun si seat tai.. election ladwane ki soch reho RK ji ko...... batayo kerre......result main eibbhi suna doowa 7 meehne pehle..................
hahhahaa..O bhai mai bina party ka naam bataye hi result bata doonga...Party koi bhi ho, jamanat japt ho jagee bhai mere jessa ki to western UP me... Bhai bas lande hi khaa kaman len do...hahahaa...Wstern UP ke to ghar ghar me teen teen neta hain... However, I will certainly be active in educating our masses during election this time... Jatland pe bata diya kroonga ki kahan kahan pe bhasan dene wala hoon...jaroor aaiye bhaiyo....hahahhaa...Let us have a Jatland team this time to go around and tell people about various issues..
RK^2
Good Idea
I think it is a very good idea. Off course Dr. RK will be contesting from Congress, if he so decides. There are only 13 Jat MP's I guess in Parliament. Only two from UP, one is Ch. Ajit Singh and another Ch. Vijendra Singh from Aligarh.
Dr. RK would be an ideal candidate from Congress to represent the party in Jat Heartland. Shamli itself is a good idea. Alternatively he could take on Ms. Anuradha Chaudhary from Cairana.
I am not joking, it is a good suggestion and Dr. RK should consider it in all seriousness.
Unless we try, we would never know the result.
I think it is a very good idea. Off course Dr. RK will be contesting from Congress, if he so decides. There are only 13 Jat MP's I guess in Parliament. Only two from UP, one is Ch. Ajit Singh and another Ch. Vijendra Singh from Aligarh.
Dr. RK would be an ideal candidate from Congress to represent the party in Jat Heartland. Shamli itself is a good idea. Alternatively he could take on Ms. Anuradha Chaudhary from Cairana.
I am not joking, it is a good suggestion and Dr. RK should consider it in all seriousness.
Unless we try, we would never know the result.
nice idea
It’s a nice idea. Dr. R.K should consider it. About party, Congress is the lesser evil for Jats these days, there do not appear any other option for Jats in Western UP, may be it is time for Jats to take control of the Congress in Western UP, as traditional voter of Congress has gone to BSP & SP. Better for Jats to use the Congress instead of supporting an all JAT regional party. About the election results, though chances appear slim for the congress now but 7 months is a long time and a good candidate can pull through despite bad performance of his party. Jats need good community leaders now and Dr. R.K is ideal candidate to represent us. But instead of taking on Ms. Anuradha Chaudhary or any other Jat its better to fight with some non Jat on a Jat seat, all parties do commit some election blunders by putting non Jats on a Jat seat and thats the right seat for Dr. R.K to fight. I don’t have much intrest in politics but liked the idea.
It’s a nice idea. Dr. R.K should consider it. About party, Congress is the lesser evil for Jats these days, there do not appear any other option for Jats in Western UP, may be it is time for Jats to take control of the Congress in Western UP, as traditional voter of Congress has gone to BSP & SP. Better for Jats to use the Congress instead of supporting an all JAT regional party. About the election results, though chances appear slim for the congress now but 7 months is a long time and a good candidate can pull through despite bad performance of his party. Jats need good community leaders now and Dr. R.K is ideal candidate to represent us. But instead of taking on Ms. Anuradha Chaudhary or any other Jat its better to fight with some non Jat on a Jat seat, all parties do commit some election blunders by putting non Jats on a Jat seat and thats the right seat for Dr. R.K to fight. I don’t have much intrest in politics but liked the idea.
sktomer777
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ver good idea!
it's a very good idea.If good people like you dont choose to come to politics, then we always will be having criminals as our leaders.Pls give it a serious consideration...
it's a very good idea.If good people like you dont choose to come to politics, then we always will be having criminals as our leaders.Pls give it a serious consideration...
prashantacmet
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Col. saahab...... bohat jabardast haar hojaggi Anuradha ke saamhi to.. chahe koisee party ho... arr jo congress tai ladde to Jamanat ke bhi laalle padd sakke....... RK sir Ji bura na maaniyo
prashantacmet
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Dangi sahab.. politics is not a game which u can play on Internet......By putting some comments in any thread u cann't change the attitude(right/wrong) of ppl...it needs some action & Netppl are not having enough time.... they can only give their ideas nothing else beyond it.. ..if anyone here can convince to an older uneduacted Jat of Baraut by this view against Ajeet singh that will be a gr8 achievement for him........sure it 's hard nut to crack.......
if anyone is willing to do this please have a try ............
as far as ur suggestion(Congress as a choice) to western UP jats.. there are not going to accept it in the next 20 years.. After 20 yerars , i am not sure....... After Ajeet singh singh choice of westernUP jats is BJP not congress...
italy aali ke raaj tai to bhagwaan bachaye hamme......
RK ji aap election to lad lo par LOKDAL tai nyarra kissi hor party tai parcha mat bhariyo..aapki Jeet paakki. arr Congress ke to laawe ku bhi na chale jaaiyo
if anyone is willing to do this please have a try ............
as far as ur suggestion(Congress as a choice) to western UP jats.. there are not going to accept it in the next 20 years.. After 20 yerars , i am not sure....... After Ajeet singh singh choice of westernUP jats is BJP not congress...
italy aali ke raaj tai to bhagwaan bachaye hamme......
RK ji aap election to lad lo par LOKDAL tai nyarra kissi hor party tai parcha mat bhariyo..aapki Jeet paakki. arr Congress ke to laawe ku bhi na chale jaaiyo
Understandable
Dear Prashant,
I understand your unflinching support to Ch. Ajit Singh and his party. That is quite understandable for people of Baraut area. For more than half a century people of your area had supported Ch. Charan Singh and many others including Ch. Ajit Singh in his name. The unfortunate part is that all the successors of Ch. Charan Singh have not been able to live upto the expectations of the people. In fact they have eroded the large political base created by Ch. Sahab, to the extent, that they are considered opportunist these days by the majority of people.
I don't know any thing about Ms. Anuradha Chaudhary except that she is the most powerful person in Ch. Ajit's party. Why and how, we don't know. I am sure she must be an outstanding person and politician to achieve so much in such a short time, and I wish her good luck.
As for Dr. RK is concerned, he himself is a committed person. It is my understanding that due to his personal ties with people in Congress, it would be more likely that he might consider Congress as the first option. Speculations in a game like politics can be dangerous. I remember, in 1971, Ch. Charan Singh contested from Muzaffurnagar seat leaving Baghpat seat to Shri Raghubir Sharan Shastri. What we learned at that time was, that Ch Sahab thought that he would win from where ever he would contest, while any one from his party would win from Baghpat. The result we all know, that both Mr. Shastri and Ch. Charan Singh lost that election.
Thus, taking for granted, Ms. Chaudhary's win from Cairana may not be a best thing to do. A potent candidate, if able to run an efficient campaign, can turn the table. We all know who would have thought Mrs. Indira Gandhi loosing from Rai Barellie.
Don't under estimate Dr. RK's commitment to the community. I am sure if he gets into the ring, he will definitely give run for their money to his opponents, no matter who it may be.
Election is a complex process. It all depends on running a successful and efficient election campaign.
Dear Prashant,
I understand your unflinching support to Ch. Ajit Singh and his party. That is quite understandable for people of Baraut area. For more than half a century people of your area had supported Ch. Charan Singh and many others including Ch. Ajit Singh in his name. The unfortunate part is that all the successors of Ch. Charan Singh have not been able to live upto the expectations of the people. In fact they have eroded the large political base created by Ch. Sahab, to the extent, that they are considered opportunist these days by the majority of people.
I don't know any thing about Ms. Anuradha Chaudhary except that she is the most powerful person in Ch. Ajit's party. Why and how, we don't know. I am sure she must be an outstanding person and politician to achieve so much in such a short time, and I wish her good luck.
As for Dr. RK is concerned, he himself is a committed person. It is my understanding that due to his personal ties with people in Congress, it would be more likely that he might consider Congress as the first option. Speculations in a game like politics can be dangerous. I remember, in 1971, Ch. Charan Singh contested from Muzaffurnagar seat leaving Baghpat seat to Shri Raghubir Sharan Shastri. What we learned at that time was, that Ch Sahab thought that he would win from where ever he would contest, while any one from his party would win from Baghpat. The result we all know, that both Mr. Shastri and Ch. Charan Singh lost that election.
Thus, taking for granted, Ms. Chaudhary's win from Cairana may not be a best thing to do. A potent candidate, if able to run an efficient campaign, can turn the table. We all know who would have thought Mrs. Indira Gandhi loosing from Rai Barellie.
Don't under estimate Dr. RK's commitment to the community. I am sure if he gets into the ring, he will definitely give run for their money to his opponents, no matter who it may be.
Election is a complex process. It all depends on running a successful and efficient election campaign.
ratananmol
Banned
I support Rk's candidature and would campaign for him if possible...I am sure he will do a lot of good to our people. And i assure you a lot of young folks will stand by his side....excellent idea.
Anmol.
Anmol.
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rameshlakra
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I too support him and have following for the consideration:
With all seriousness and due respect i request R K ji to come up with YES or NO ASAP.
Regards
- The people who win are so very ordinary, vulnerable and low IQ that Rk uncle with so much charm and intelligence has a high chance to win.
- Why ? because we are with him. I think he stands better chance if he contest on Jatland's name rather then congress or BJP. The reasons are too obvious and help him in survival after the win.
- We can have fund raising here on jatland if he agrees to it. But there is no time and the whole process should start now.
- Last but not the least, politics is for those who think " Politics is a cross country rather then a 100 mts dash". There is always a next time even if u lose, but slow and steady pace combined with a decent start is important.
With all seriousness and due respect i request R K ji to come up with YES or NO ASAP.
Regards
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shamshermalik
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I am not from UP but onlything I would say is that Congress party has not done anything good for farmers...and we all know this. So I donot think it will be a good option for RK sir to go with congress if he wishes to contest elections.
Congress tectics....if the tomato is selling at 30paise per kg do nothing but if it is selling for 30rupees per kg fix the price.
If there is no one to buy wheat even at the minimum support price congress do nothing and if the rate goes high order to import wheat even if it cost more than the current wheat rate in country.
Has congress ever tried to check the price of any industrial product???
So RK sir if you are a Jat well wisher then avoid this Congress party.
Congress tectics....if the tomato is selling at 30paise per kg do nothing but if it is selling for 30rupees per kg fix the price.
If there is no one to buy wheat even at the minimum support price congress do nothing and if the rate goes high order to import wheat even if it cost more than the current wheat rate in country.
Has congress ever tried to check the price of any industrial product???
So RK sir if you are a Jat well wisher then avoid this Congress party.
We Don't go into Facts
Dear Mr. Malik,
I agree with you that any Jat leader must join the party that helps the farmers, as most of our folks are into that profession. However, I don't find any other party also doing any thing different than Congress.
The question here is whether a party matters most or a candidate's sicerity and dedication to the community. Dr. RK if committed to help the community, would do well, irrespective of the party that he represents. And what is the party? It is the organization of some individuals who probably follow same ideology (though difficult to assume as most of them within the organization itself have their own agenda). If that be so, then the philosophy of a party would change as the composition of its members. So, what Congress did 50 years ago does not necessarily mean that it would do same in next 50 years.
Each party has its good points and bad points. I would rather support a national party rather than a regional party. That leaves the choice between, Congress and BJP or to some extent lets say Communists. I am personally not comfortable with the communits idelogy. That leaves only two parties.
We have option to get along with one of these and then probably change its ideology to help the community, that not only includes Farmers, but also all other section of society. Another option is to form a separate organization at national level, and follow its philosphy in bad times and be patient to stick around for good times to arrive. This is probably a little harder way, but may be more acceptable. The only problem is to find the support at the starting point.
Considering all the aspects, I personally feel that today, it may be a better option to be with Congress, and create enough political base so that your voice is heard. With limited Jat leaders in congress it will be a good opportunity for Dr. RK to be in Congress. His experience and exposure would definitely be beneficial to both the party he joins and the constituency he represents.
The best thing is that while we are discussing all this, Dr. RK himself is keeping a very low profile. This may be deliberate, but more likely due to his shifting the base from UK to Shamli.
What ever may be the case our good wishes are with him for whatever decision he takes.
Dear Mr. Malik,
I agree with you that any Jat leader must join the party that helps the farmers, as most of our folks are into that profession. However, I don't find any other party also doing any thing different than Congress.
The question here is whether a party matters most or a candidate's sicerity and dedication to the community. Dr. RK if committed to help the community, would do well, irrespective of the party that he represents. And what is the party? It is the organization of some individuals who probably follow same ideology (though difficult to assume as most of them within the organization itself have their own agenda). If that be so, then the philosophy of a party would change as the composition of its members. So, what Congress did 50 years ago does not necessarily mean that it would do same in next 50 years.
Each party has its good points and bad points. I would rather support a national party rather than a regional party. That leaves the choice between, Congress and BJP or to some extent lets say Communists. I am personally not comfortable with the communits idelogy. That leaves only two parties.
We have option to get along with one of these and then probably change its ideology to help the community, that not only includes Farmers, but also all other section of society. Another option is to form a separate organization at national level, and follow its philosphy in bad times and be patient to stick around for good times to arrive. This is probably a little harder way, but may be more acceptable. The only problem is to find the support at the starting point.
Considering all the aspects, I personally feel that today, it may be a better option to be with Congress, and create enough political base so that your voice is heard. With limited Jat leaders in congress it will be a good opportunity for Dr. RK to be in Congress. His experience and exposure would definitely be beneficial to both the party he joins and the constituency he represents.
The best thing is that while we are discussing all this, Dr. RK himself is keeping a very low profile. This may be deliberate, but more likely due to his shifting the base from UK to Shamli.
What ever may be the case our good wishes are with him for whatever decision he takes.
shamshermalik
Banned
Respected Col V S Tavathiaji,
A party which could not do anythung in 50 years will do something in next 50 years is like day dreaming...Ek kahavat hai sir "put ke paon palne me hi dikh jate hain" Congress ko dekhte to hamen 50 saal ho gaye.
Congress has only played a vote politics so far and has not done anything good for any society be it farmer or others like SC and ST.
As far the voice to be heard in Congress..Sir here you are absolutely wrong..only voice heard in congress is that of Sonia Gandhi...you have seen how much voice of Kuldeep Bishnoi congress is listening in Haryana these days on land given to Reliance.
Its better if we take the harder path...get organised and do something good for farming as well as other socities...and Sir please donot forget more than half of India's population earn their living from farming.
What little congress is doing today is because they have got a shock from BJP rule in between and they need more such shocks so that they can interospect themselves in a better way.
a lone Jat MLA in congress can hardly do anything untill unless the govt at center is at stake. They will put him to side like the Kuldeep Bishnoi in Haryana.
Shamsher
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mukeshkumar007
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good idea..... Btw I would like to see him as a Home Minister of India because to deal with the current complexity we need a flexible and determined person like RK uncle. He is the best candidate at present for this post….
anooplather
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RK sahib standing for an election
RK sahib dont get stung by the stupid idea of standing for an election. But ido share ur idea of creating a group for awarness.
rohittewatia
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RK uncle ney indian crab story toh padhi hi hougi...idhar hissab aisah hih hai ki upper uthane sey pehle taang kheenchane lagte haiin...
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