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We need an aggressive Jat Leader in Rajasthan ?
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Sapano aa ro see ke?
Jago Jat Jago...dophar hogi.
Ek baat or kamzor, hareda shikayat kare see.
Mhari bhee Diwali ki Ramm Ramm!!!
Jago Jat Jago...dophar hogi.
Ek baat or kamzor, hareda shikayat kare see.
Mhari bhee Diwali ki Ramm Ramm!!!
Aap ko diwali mubarak ho, Rammji. Rajasthan ke CM bante rahenge per PM un te pahle Jat ban jayega aur us ke bad do char rajput Pm bhi banayega, aur bante hi ye rajput apne banane wale ko thage ga. is ke khoon me hai ye sub. Rajput ka sirf ek hi maksad ke Jat ko nahin ban ne denge. chahe jo marzee bane. chahe babur, gauri import karna pade.
narenderkharb
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This is the best example how to spoil a good thread
There is no need for digression.
Please keep the discussion focussed on the main topic.
Can rajasthan members who have not contributed so far suggest their best options in this regard.
Mukesh your post is long over due.
There is no need for digression.
Please keep the discussion focussed on the main topic.
Can rajasthan members who have not contributed so far suggest their best options in this regard.
Mukesh your post is long over due.
narenderkharb
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Dr Bharat sent a well researched article on why jats could not suceed in capturing power in rajasthan.
One of the main reason sited was failure of Jat community to enlist the support of other casts in their favour unlike their opponents who managed to bond with other groups.
Are their some social groups or casts that vote with jats in elections .
Again Jats have a poor presence in media and that is a major reason we already get negative points in media scoring.
What should be the strategy of Jats in this regard to enlist the support of the other groups.
One of the main reason sited was failure of Jat community to enlist the support of other casts in their favour unlike their opponents who managed to bond with other groups.
Are their some social groups or casts that vote with jats in elections .
Again Jats have a poor presence in media and that is a major reason we already get negative points in media scoring.
What should be the strategy of Jats in this regard to enlist the support of the other groups.
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aarti
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Dr Bharat sent a well researched article on why jats could not suceed in capturing power in rajasthan.
Pls can you send me this article of Dr Bharat . . .
Sidhi see baat hai. Rajasthan me Jat mantri banane ka baad khud ko, khud ke jeb ko upliftment kar. Harayana me bhe baat eek he. Par Hariyana choto state rahego so, Jat % jyada ha.
Press, aa ke kaha dee.
Press, aa ke kaha dee.
Dr Bharat sent a well researched article on why jats could not suceed in capturing power in rajasthan.
One of the main reason sited was failure of Jat community to enlist the support of other casts in their favour unlike their opponents who managed to bond with other groups.
Are their some social groups or casts that vote with jats in elections .
Again Jats have a poor presence in media and that is a major reason we already get negative points in media scoring.
What should be the strategy of Jats in this regard to enlist the support of the other groups.
narenderkharb
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He posted link in this post.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=101398#post101398
And this is link where some reasons have been highlighted.
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/polsoc/download/rob_jenkins/Rajput_Hindutva.pdf
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?p=101398#post101398
And this is link where some reasons have been highlighted.
http://www.bbk.ac.uk/polsoc/download/rob_jenkins/Rajput_Hindutva.pdf
narenderkharb
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Sidhi see baat hai. Rajasthan me Jat mantri banane ka baad khud ko, khud ke jeb ko upliftment kar. Harayana me bhe baat eek he. Par Hariyana choto state rahego so, Jat % jyada ha.
Press, aa ke kaha dee.
Yes we do find good and bad people also politicians every where not in any particular state.
But as per my dealing with people from different states ,I can say with certainty that Rajasthani Jats are very honest and gullible type and the same simplicity is being exploited by vested interests.
Yes we were suggesting some young hopes for rajasthan jat politics..??
netrapalsingh
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Dr Bharat sent a well researched article on why jats could not suceed in capturing power in rajasthan.
One of the main reason sited was failure of Jat community to enlist the support of other casts in their favour unlike their opponents who managed to bond with other groups.
Are their some social groups or casts that vote with jats in elections .
Again Jats have a poor presence in media and that is a major reason we already get negative points in media scoring.
What should be the strategy of Jats in this regard to enlist the support of the other groups.
narendera jee aap kya kahana chahte hai mere samaj me nahi ayaa
aap ne kaha hai kee jat rajniti ko capture nahi kar sakte hai to aap
bilkul galat hai jato ke bina rajasthan to kya poori ootri bharat me
rajniti asambhav hai aaj rajniti me jitne jat agressive hai utnee koi
bhee cast nahi hai rahi rajasthan kee baat to jasa kee rajasthan university
me pahale jadatar brahman president banta tha uske baad do
bar jat bhee president bana hai to vo din bhee door nahi ki ek
din ko jat bhee rajasthan ka cm banega lekin proper ekta kee
jarurat hai.
netra.......
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nknauhwar
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I feel that incidental choice of so called selfish Rajputs, (pithoos of muslim, british, congress and any ruling party) mount abu as their fire altar (where they were really never born by unnatural means) made Jats of Rajasthan victims of their whims and fiences.
Hence, no CM Jat in Rajasthan.
Rajasthan no Jat CM was in no way due to the demerit of Jats. It was, rather, due to the demerit of Rajput. They all had this mythological belief that they all originated from Rajasthan by unnatural means, though till today they are very much born by natural means. They were all united all over India/pakistan on this belief. But Jats on other hand were not so united to oppose this belief to favor their brother (Jats) in Rajasthan.
Hence, no CM Jat in Rajasthan.
Rajasthan no Jat CM was in no way due to the demerit of Jats. It was, rather, due to the demerit of Rajput. They all had this mythological belief that they all originated from Rajasthan by unnatural means, though till today they are very much born by natural means. They were all united all over India/pakistan on this belief. But Jats on other hand were not so united to oppose this belief to favor their brother (Jats) in Rajasthan.
narenderkharb
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narendera jee aap kya kahana chahte hai mere samaj me nahi ayaa
aap ne kaha hai kee jat rajniti ko capture nahi kar sakte hai to aap
bilkul galat hai jato ke bina rajasthan to kya poori ootri bharat me
rajniti asambhav hai aaj rajniti me jitne jat agressive hai utnee koi
bhee cast nahi hai rahi rajasthan kee baat to jasa kee rajasthan university
me pahale jadatar brahman president banta tha uske baad do
bar jat bhee president bana hai to vo din bhee door nahi ki ek
din ko jat bhee rajasthan ka cm banega lekin proper ekta kee
jarurat hai.
netra.......
Netrpal jee
I was just mentioning about the post of CM by power, as he is the real player who manges the whole show.
Mhe Einstien, be gadha.
Mhe ghass khodi, be raj karo.
Koi batavgo aa ulti ganga sada Jat ke saath hee kyon?
Belief, aa kee balaa hove se? Mhe to khud Jat Pramatma.
Mhe ghass khodi, be raj karo.
Koi batavgo aa ulti ganga sada Jat ke saath hee kyon?
Belief, aa kee balaa hove se? Mhe to khud Jat Pramatma.
Rajasthan no Jat CM was in no way due to the demerit of Jats. It was, rather, due to the demerit of Rajput. They all had this mythological belief that they all originated from Rajasthan by unnatural means, though till today they are very much born by natural means. They were all united all over India/pakistan on this belief. But Jats on other hand were not so united to oppose this belief to favor their brother (Jats) in Rajasthan.
Rajasthan ka Jat neta simple, gullible?
Bhai Narender, kade holi ka saang dekhya se?
Honesty, ee kee madhumakhee ko naam se?
Bhai Narender, kade holi ka saang dekhya se?
Honesty, ee kee madhumakhee ko naam se?
Yes we do find good and bad people also politicians every where not in any particular state.
But as per my dealing with people from different states ,I can say with certainty that Rajasthani Jats are very honest and gullible type and the same simplicity is being exploited by vested interests.
Yes we were suggesting some young hopes for rajasthan jat politics..??
you seem to be a nakli Jat!
Haa bhai hum to naklee honge kyo ke aap ke hisab se saree aslee Jat to Rajasthan me hai na.
Tam lag je to bhai Haryana me aayeaa JAT or JATLAND ka matlab pata laag jegaa. Jaha sata chaahe Congress ki ho ya INLD ke CM JAT ne he banna hai.
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aarti
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Let me reinitiate this topic again on the day of Ch. Khumbaram ji Arya’s death anniversary. Today is his eleventh death anniversary.
It is easier said then done that it would be a Jat CM for Rajasthan next time, either which way. I have my sincere doubts. There has to be community mobilization for initiating such a process and I have a doubt that’s happening.
Jats are fighting their respective battles in their helm-doms and that is not resonating as a collective effort on the part of community. Until and unless we make ourselves strong, we must also not expect our associate communities to back to our fold. And without all this, we have no takers . . . . so we are back to square one.
Either we again look to younger members of established political families to like Jakher; Maderna; Kumbharam ji Arya; Maharia; Atma Ram ji (Ganganagar/Hanumangarh); Ganga Ram ji (Barmer), alternatively we create by our collective support. We are running against time.
For people who are more interested in the role of younger (general from all across India) politicians and their development, you may read here; INDIA REACTS: http://www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=1505
It is easier said then done that it would be a Jat CM for Rajasthan next time, either which way. I have my sincere doubts. There has to be community mobilization for initiating such a process and I have a doubt that’s happening.
Jats are fighting their respective battles in their helm-doms and that is not resonating as a collective effort on the part of community. Until and unless we make ourselves strong, we must also not expect our associate communities to back to our fold. And without all this, we have no takers . . . . so we are back to square one.
Either we again look to younger members of established political families to like Jakher; Maderna; Kumbharam ji Arya; Maharia; Atma Ram ji (Ganganagar/Hanumangarh); Ganga Ram ji (Barmer), alternatively we create by our collective support. We are running against time.
For people who are more interested in the role of younger (general from all across India) politicians and their development, you may read here; INDIA REACTS: http://www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=1505
lamba_amit_iitr
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It is really pity painful to see that rajasthan has not been able to produce even a single aggressive Jat leader who really can represent our community in true sense. Although there have been many Jat leader active in politics but none of them have been able to set an example to our next generation. Some of them feel ashamed to be called a Jat Leader so I don’t think we can really expect for any thing from such type of leaders. The territory of Sikar, Jhunjhunu and Churu which known as a Shekhawati, where jats are really playing a significant role in politics. No party can win election without their support. But this region is also missing a real Jat leader. Sikar district has a Jat Mp (Subash Maharia) but he did nothing for the community and in the same way in Jhunjhunu, Sishram Ola has been elected for many times for the parliament but failed to do anything good for our community. From a long time we are demanding for a jat chief minister in state but hardly there is any leader in our community who deserve this post.
The leader who impressed me much is Amra Ram (MLA from CPM). He might be called a true jat leader, in him I saw many characteristics which are much crucial to be an aggressive jat leader. But being a communist follower he can not lead to the entire community because his party’s ideology doesn’t suit to Jats.
In previous assembly election some ratio of the jat votes have shifted towards BJP but I think our interests may not be fulfill with it because BJP is known as a Rajput and Baniya party.
In the congress there were some rays of hope when Narayan Singh was elected as a PCC (Pardesh Congress Committee) chief but again there was nothing except disappointment, as he did nothing remarkable neither for our community nor for his party. Now Ram Narayan Choudhary has nominated as an opposition leader in assembly but I am not sure he would be able to enlighten our comm in state.
What is the main reason behing this? Why have we not been able to introduce a true jat leader in state. One day some one told me that the basic problem with us is that we (JAT) in rajasthan never sit together, and always fight with each other. That’s why every political party play with us for their own interests.
In my views, we need a leader like Ashok Gehlot (who makes all saini community proud) in state who can move ahead by bringing every dissatisfied sections of the society together so that in future we may have a JAT CM in state.
Pata nahi koi aisa leader kab hoga...???Kabi kabi to aisa lagta hai ki mujhe hi chunav ladna padega… LOL
i think somebody among the youths should come out and emerge as a great leader
Aarti ji,
Mhari be ek lambi list se. Par ba aapki su alag se.
Parmatma Khumbha Ramji atma nu shanti dey.
Mhari be ek lambi list se. Par ba aapki su alag se.
Parmatma Khumbha Ramji atma nu shanti dey.
Let me reinitiate this topic again on the day of Ch. Khumbaram ji Arya’s death anniversary. Today is his eleventh death anniversary.
It is easier said then done that it would be a Jat CM for Rajasthan next time, either which way. I have my sincere doubts. There has to be community mobilization for initiating such a process and I have a doubt that’s happening.
Jats are fighting their respective battles in their helm-doms and that is not resonating as a collective effort on the part of community. Until and unless we make ourselves strong, we must also not expect our associate communities to back to our fold. And without all this, we have no takers . . . . so we are back to square one.
Either we again look to younger members of established political families to like Jakher; Maderna; Kumbharam ji Arya; Maharia; Atma Ram ji (Ganganagar/Hanumangarh); Ganga Ram ji (Barmer), alternatively we create by our collective support. We are running against time.
For people who are more interested in the role of younger (general from all across India) politicians and their development, you may read here; INDIA REACTS: http://www.indiareacts.com/archivedebates/nat2.asp?recno=1505
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aarti
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Aarti ji, Mhari be ek lambi list se. Par ba aapki su alag se.
Ram Singh ji Shaib, aap apni list batye. . . .
Let us all start discussion on that first, may be we find some solution in your list
Aarti ji,
list to bahut lambi se, par ek naam se suru karoo su. eeb jyada nama ki jarrurrat bhi koni.
Dr. Hari Singh.
list to bahut lambi se, par ek naam se suru karoo su. eeb jyada nama ki jarrurrat bhi koni.
Dr. Hari Singh.
Ram Singh ji Shaib, aap apni list batye. . . .
Let us all start discussion on that first, may be we find some solution in your list
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