Now Baba Ramdev In The Eye Of A Storm

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Press release of CPM on 5th is as under
January 5, 2006

Press Statement
The Polit Bureau of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) has issued the following statement:

The reported statement of the Uttaranchal Chief Minister Shri N.D. Tiwari that the issues raised about adulteration of medicines in a pharmacy in his state is a personal one between Shri Ramdevji and Brinda Karat is extremely surprising and unfortunate.

There are two issues involved in the matter. The first is the violation of labour laws in the pharmacy owned by Shri Ramdev. 110 workers have been illegally dismissed after they protested for not being paid the minimum wage and overtime. The second is the testing of the samples of two medicines from his pharmacy by the health ministry which has confirmed the presence of animal matter whereas they are labeled as herbal medicines.

To divert attention from these issues, wild and also personalized allegations are being made. There is no question of any opposition to yoga, ayurveda or any other indigenous medicines. However, these medicines are to be dispensed with utmost transparency according to official regulations and if there is any violation it must be checked and suitable measures taken against wrong doings. A proper investigation is called for.

The N.D. Tiwari government should also immediately ensure reinstatement of the workers dismissed.
 
Now one CPM minister from Bengal says that there is nothing wrong with Baba or his medicines. Hope Varinda Ma'm is listening?
 
Ek he sawal hae.
kya usne jaanwaroon ke hadiyaan dawaiion mein milaye kya nahe?
vichar acahhar koi mayaane nahee rakhatee.
koi communist ilzaam lagaa raahaa hae iseee ka jurm see kya matlab hae?:cool:
jurm kiya kya naheen?
 
what do you feel ?

parda said:
Ek he sawal hae.
kya usne jaanwaroon ke hadiyaan dawaiion mein milaye kya nahe?
vichar acahhar koi mayaane nahee rakhatee.
koi communist ilzaam lagaa raahaa hae iseee ka jurm see kya matlab hae?:cool:
jurm kiya kya naheen?



Pardeep, throw some light on the question you are asking dear. What do you feel.......use your gut feeling and pour your views.
 
Pata Nahi Kaun Sach Bol Raha Hai, Kaun Jhooth..............................
Politics Hai Hi Gandi......................................................................
Par Sadhu Santoon Par Bhi Vishwas Nahi Kiya Ja Sakta...................
May Be Mnc's Are Playing Some Game...............................................
Or It May Be A Fact That There Is Some Adulteration In Medicine...
No One Knows Whats The Truth.....................................................
We Can Just Hope For The Fair Reults.....nothing Else
 
No it has not died down yet. One of his associates has accused BABA of mixing the bones in medicines...................It is going to be a long drawn drama i suppose.
 
I would like to put my honest thoughts about this controversy.

First : I think it's just a political issue at all.

Second : Who cares if Baba Ramdev mixing bones in medicines. Do you know exactly what is mixed in allopathic medicines? We take them happily. How many people are non-veg here ?. They kill animals just for the taste. If his medicines are benefitting the human beings then what is wrong with that. One thing is sure, he doesn't kill humans or animals for their bones. Baba Ramdev is doing this (mixing bones or not) for the benefit of human beings. He is not doing anything wrong. That's my conclusion.

Is my answer justified ?
 
I have read about him on his web site http://www.swamiramdev.info/aboutme.htm. He claimes to have studied the follwoing :

Ashtadhyayi , Mahabhashya, Upnishads, and the six systems(Nyaya darshan, mimansa darsahn , vedant darshan, yoga darshan , sankhya darsahn and vaishesik darshan) of Indian Philosophy and vedas.

All these are the holy books of sanatan dharam( which is known as Hindu religion today).

I my self have read Patanjal yoga darshan. Those who do not know who is patanjal, he was a great rishi of ancient time who was a greate philosopher of vedas and he was the one wrote the first book on yoga. todys yoga system is based on his philosophy only.




in my opinion what baba Ramdev is doing is not correct. Yajurveda mantra 7/4 states that yoga philosophy is meant to realize God while discharging or illusion etc. So is the voice of all other three Vedas specially Saamveda. no Veda say that yoga philosophy is meant to cure the disease or to make good health.

Base of the yoga philosophy is brahmacharya which comes in yam and Niyam. Which are not being followed. Second sutra of Yog shastra of rishis Patanjali says to the total stoppage of Chitta Vritti is called yoga and yoga means Samadhi and Samadhi means realization of God. If someone is desirous to make his health good by asan and pranayaam then Ravan, Duryodhan, Kans was very healthy without yoga asan. And our ancient wrestlers, sportsmen and present too are having good health without yoga philosophy.

if one say to the public that Yog philosophy will enable you to realize God then no one will take interest. And when someone will say that yoga will finish your illness then everybody will come to learn yoga asan. And most of the people made this pious philosophy who earned the money which is again against the Vedas. The same thing is happening in western world. people have made it a business.

yoga has eight limbs( yam, niyam , asan , pranayam , pratyahar, dharna, dhyan and samadhi). again there are 5 yams(satya , ahinsa , asteya , bramcharya , aprigraha) and these are 5 niyams(showch, santosh, tap, swadhayay, ishwar parnidhan). That is why it is called ashtang yoga.

now these people know if you teach all this no one will be interested in the yoga philosophy. so out of those 8 limbs they have choosen asan and pryanyam. and in dono ko hee yoga kahana shuru kar diya hai. meat eating is not allowed, but these so called yoga teacher know, it is impossible in USA to ask someone to give up meat. so they have started saying you can eat whatever you like. kul milakar asan( which is nothing but physical excersice) ko hee yoga ka naam de diya hai and logo ko loot rahe hain. people think that yoga gives peace of mind. which is true only if you practice all the things I have mentioned above. aajkal bhagdod ke jamane people have lost there peace of mind and they need some shortcut to bring it back. and is dunia ka yahi dastoor hai....kisi ki bevkoofi ka koi dusra fayda uthata hai....these so called yoga school are making million of money. hamari purani sanskrit and yog vidya ka sahara lekar. But that is wrong.


and if mixing the bone help a patient there is nothing wrong in it.


lekin ye baba pahale se hee culture ka sahara lekar public ko ullu bana raha hai. Log usko Doctor samajh kar nahi jate hain...log uske pas shradha se jate hain....he has misused the public emotions....even if he does anything wrong now, no one will beleive. aise log achche nahi hote hain....If he is a doctor he has to act like a doctor and not like a super human.
 
Ek Baat Samagh Mein Koni Aati

BHAIYA EK BAAT SAMAGH MEIN KONI AATI KI AGAR MEDICINES MEIN BONES HAIN BHE(wHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY) BABA RAMDEV KA BATAYA YOGA KARNE MEIN KYA BURAI HAI

MANY PEOPLE INXCLUDING MY PARENTS ARE PRACTISING YOGA TOLD BY BABA RAMDEV AND BELIEVE ME PEOPLE FEEL MUCH MENTALLY RELAXED AFTER YOGA THEN ANY OTHETR METHOD OF RELAXATION


TRUE JAT - TRUSTFUL, LOYAL, HONEST
 
BHAIYA EK BAAT SAMAGH MEIN KONI AATI KI AGAR MEDICINES MEIN BONES HAIN BHE(wHICH IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY) BABA RAMDEV KA BATAYA YOGA KARNE MEIN KYA BURAI HAI

MANY PEOPLE INXCLUDING MY PARENTS ARE PRACTISING YOGA TOLD BY BABA RAMDEV AND BELIEVE ME PEOPLE FEEL MUCH MENTALLY RELAXED AFTER YOGA THEN ANY OTHETR METHOD OF RELAXATION


TRUE JAT - TRUSTFUL, LOYAL, HONEST



Bakwaad karraniya tei bakkwaade krregga....Let these people say anything against baba Ramdev ji.....but i am sure that he will be worshiped like God in times to come!
 
Bebuniad bate hai ye sab

ye vivad to bhoot pahale uttha tha ek lady ne is vivad ko shuru kiya tha
or baba ramdev ke kuch chele the jo unse alag ho gaye the lkin uska koi
bhee praman nahi mila. baba ramdev ke bare me jyada kahana mai uchit
nahi samajta lekin yog or prannayam ko jis tarah ghar ghar me pahucha
hai ye tarif ke kabil hai.

prannayam mera ajmaya hua hai mai roj early in the morning 4 a.m.
prannayam karta hoo jiske parinaam bhee mere samne hai mere kai
jankar hai jo pranayam karke vibhinn prakar kee bimariyo se mukti
paa chuke hai. kai taja example hai hart ke blockage khulne ke
mere pass yaha tak brain tumar theek hone ke. meri sanstha me
ek bhatiji hai jinke dharmpatni ko doctor ne 9 sal pahale braintumar
bataya tha unhone AIMS me check karwaya waha doctor ne
6 mahine tak hee life ka kaha lekin wo kahi se ramdev kee CD le aye
or aapko yah sunkar aschary hoga wo lady aaj bhee jee rahee hai
or poori tarah se swasth hai agar kisi ko check karna ho to mai unka
phone no desakta hoo.

jaha tak medicine ka sawal to alopethic me har dawai kisi janwar hee
haddi se, uskee khal se, kisi kee tel se bantee hai or hamare aaj
ke doctor goo mutra ko poision batate hai parantu aayurved me
ise amrut mana gaya hai or baba ramdev ne ise cancer ke liye
ram ban bataya hai.

netra......
 
ye vivad to bhoot pahale uttha tha ek lady ne is vivad ko shuru kiya tha
or baba ramdev ke kuch chele the jo unse alag ho gaye the lkin uska koi
bhee praman nahi mila. baba ramdev ke bare me jyada kahana mai uchit
nahi samajta lekin yog or prannayam ko jis tarah ghar ghar me pahucha
hai ye tarif ke kabil hai.

prannayam mera ajmaya hua hai mai roj early in the morning 4 a.m.
prannayam karta hoo jiske parinaam bhee mere samne hai mere kai
jankar hai jo pranayam karke vibhinn prakar kee bimariyo se mukti
paa chuke hai. kai taja example hai hart ke blockage khulne ke
mere pass yaha tak brain tumar theek hone ke. meri sanstha me
ek bhatiji hai jinke dharmpatni ko doctor ne 9 sal pahale braintumar
bataya tha unhone AIMS me check karwaya waha doctor ne
6 mahine tak hee life ka kaha lekin wo kahi se ramdev kee CD le aye
or aapko yah sunkar aschary hoga wo lady aaj bhee jee rahee hai
or poori tarah se swasth hai agar kisi ko check karna ho to mai unka
phone no desakta hoo.

jaha tak medicine ka sawal to alopethic me har dawai kisi janwar hee
haddi se, uskee khal se, kisi kee tel se bantee hai or hamare aaj
ke doctor goo mutra ko poision batate hai parantu aayurved me
ise amrut mana gaya hai or baba ramdev ne ise cancer ke liye
ram ban bataya hai.

netra......



Bilkul kharri baat aur sachchi baat Netrapal ji.
 
Bakwaad karraniya tei bakkwaade krregga....Let these people say anything against baba Ramdev ji.....but i am sure that he will be worshiped like God in times to come!

That's the problem with our people either they worship people like God or they butcher like animals...how about the middle path

I have no problem with some body selling things, concepts etc for whatever prices, no problem at all. In fact I bought a DVD of Ram Dev last year. I hear all kinds of bad words about Ram Dev from people in Haridwar but never pay attention to it as the criticism could be just due to competition between Ashrams or akharads and then more importantly what you get at the end is obviously good in the shape yoga or medicines.

Wahhe baat se…paid gin ne ak aam khaane…eeb aaam meethe hon arr maali ki chhori bhaj ri ho to ke aam khaate ho gyaan ge

Having a respectable level of skepticism is still not bad at all. Swami Vivekananda himself wrote that his guru always was in favor of being skeptic about gurus and yogis until they know them enough. This is just part of the validation of a process or person. We should not have problem with this.
 
That's the problem with our people either they worship people like God or they butcher like animals...how about the middle path

I have no problem with some body selling things, concepts etc for whatever prices, no problem at all. In fact I bought a DVD of Ram Dev last year. I hear all kinds of bad words about Ram Dev from people in Haridwar but never pay attention to it as the criticism could be just due to competition between Ashrams or akharads and then more importantly what you get at the end is obviously good in the shape yoga or medicines.

Wahhe baat se…paid gin ne ak aam khaane…eeb aaam meethe hon arr maali ki chhori bhaj ri ho to ke aam khaate ho gyaan ge

Having a respectable level of skepticism is still not bad at all. Swami Vivekananda himself wrote that his guru always was in favor of being skeptic about gurus and yogis until they know them enough. This is just part of the validation of a process or person. We should not have problem with this.




Got a point there.What i was saying straight..you brought it out indirectly.Question is of Respetability of Skepticism and measurement there of?Good inputs Amit.
 
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