Indira Gandhi

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prashantacmet said:
u don't fake but contains all the attributes of a woman....for sure God would have put u in the wrong queue by mistake.........;)..and ppl on JL have got an amazing opportunity of seeing the womanish behaviour of an anonymous personality...:p........
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Even if that's the case, I dont fake. You've a fair bit of an idea and the first-person experience of what a "womanish" attitude is.
 
I wonder where we heading towards?? :rolleyes::p

nybody got compass?? ;)

oops! I guess am goin offtopic :p Sorry!! :)

PS- Bhai Prashant n Kabir, aapas mein batla lo ne, PM/Mail/Pager/IM pe, plz!


Rock on
Jit
 
sunitahooda said:
Manne sochi mai POLITICS mai kimme seekh jaangi....par yo tai chhoryan ka rolla paaya....kuch-kuch lugayiyan ke rolley tai milta-julta:p;) so here is a CONTRADICTORY statement- I WASTED MY TIME BUT ENJOYED:):D
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jiji mere te sare e thread nue e 'hit' ja se. jab jat issues pe baat kari jabbi log lade er ibb non-jat pe bhi joot baaj ra hai loga ka. mere thread te century kare bina rehte e na. kilkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
 
Am off it, Jit.
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seemasindhu said:
jiji mere te sare e thread nue e 'hit' ja se. jab jat issues pe baat kari jabbi log lade er ibb non-jat pe bhi joot baaj ra hai loga ka. mere thread te century kare bina rehte e na. kilkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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hey taai yo ke kara diya tennei kilki mar maar kei ???
 
rkumar said:
fairly balanced view on her patriotic character. Only one thing I am unable to understand about congress is their relations with communists who are well known to support Chinese. Why congress has been joining hands with them under almost all congress PMs including Mrs Gandhi. Are we paying the price of Soviet supporting us or what? Why Indian communists are not being brought to book for their antinational activities?

RK^2
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because cong has been out from rule in west bengal since very beginning. and cong needs to share power in east-western parts, else eastern states would have been a part of china and bhutan and west bengal would have been a part of bangladesh. and it would be wrong to call communists antinational, they are just orthodox.
 
kabir said:
New Delhi never had good relations with Pakistan, Europe and the US. We'd faught a war against the first during Indira's time. The second and the third, were always highly suspicious of India as it owed its allegiance to the USSR, behind the veil of NAM. In fact, two prominent NAM leaders, both vocal in their condemnation of the US, were killed within a short span of each other -- I am talking, of course, about Indira and Olof Palme*, the PM of Sweden. The conspiracy theroists allege the CIA's hand in their assassinations.



The jury is out. But if at all she was, she was the BAD among the WORSE.

*We even have a road after his name in Delhi. A strech of the outer ring road from ISTM to the NH-8 was renamed from Palam Marg (after Palam Airport) to Olof Palme Marg. Cong men have a fetish of renaming roads and buildings and we blame only Mayawati. But that is another issue.
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well i guess shobhit only meant that in charan's rule india lost touch with those countries. the purpose behind touch with other countries is to be in touch with the policies and strategies there. and that palys crucial role in building propaganda with those countries. and that's something called foreign affairs in political lingo. every country needs to be abreast of happening in other countries (irrespective of good or bad relations with the country)-as you were pointing in case of indo-pak war.

as far as naming roads after people is concerned. mayawati's naming roads on abbedkar, kanshi and herself is only patronism. cong names roads mostly after foreign dignitaries which solves a purpose to develop bonhomie between two countries. and cong never razed any sports stadium to be turned into a park (not to mention elephants, ambedkar statues everywhere), just to popularise her election emblem. i havnt heard anyone from cong family to celebrate birthday with as fanfare as mayawati did, obviously emptying people's tax money. it's too wrong a comparision. mayawati is not the worst you could bring here. she is not even a politician. she is just a local, localised head given rule by local pigs.

(PS: i m no patron of cong. i dont have interest in politics. i dont even vote. all i mean is politics cant be a godly profession and so is no gandhi member and not is the cong best party. it's just that cong still is better than other parties and nehru family is still better than those local dumbheaded politicans like mayawati. my say is CONGRESS IS A LESSER BAD PARTY)
 
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narenderkharb said:
Parshant

As per my observation criticism of Vikas is positive in nature and he has same respect for Choudhary Saheb as you me or any other Jat can have.And we have to agree Younger Choudhary is not even a shade of that great soul.But there is no better alternative than him in sight ,our bad luck.

Baki teri ya bat sahi sai ke aad kaiyan ka to bera be koni vo Jat sai be ke na.


Shobit

You are mainly focusing on foreign policy and internal security agencies .

Janta party was not a single man's show ,Morar Ji Desai was a known CIA agent well paid for his role via his son kanti bhai Desai ,that was an open secret ,so all the tilt towards America and its crony ,He was even given Nishane i Haider by Pakistan for that.Saimur hersh exposed openly what was known to many in his Book .

Time and again when ever Jats were in sight of power media controlled by certain sections actively worked against Jat leadership so as to keep them away from power.

Choudhary Charan Singh was having maximum MPs with him but via the mediation of JP ,Morar ji was brought to power.

Again Devilal controlled maximum MPs but he was manipulated by Arun Nehru and Company ,thankless VP Singh showed his true colours once he got power.
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well so far if i look back, we never had any jat politician who could represent india internationally except bhupinder hooda now. they had local heads and local knowledge. we simply cant think of the international politics as some gram panchayat. thank god they didnt come to power. imagine how it would have been that devi lal adressing the house in US on nuclear deal in jatu and even if english (if taught), it's with jat accent. ha ha. i can imagine the trauma of indian origin people there in US when commented by US people that people there speak tribal language on international level. why people overlook the personality competence while thinking of PM? it's important. believe me. though sounds stupid in first reading. just imagine this communication and lifestyle backwardness with the problems the indian hockey team faced playing world cup in chak de india. PMship is not only a policymakers job, it's a spokesperson's job also--who represents india in international affairs. this one person means the people will think india is like this person. thank god we were saved from being called illiterate, pastoral shepherd.
 
hdsura said:
While going thru few of these Indira's achievements (if you have little brain, you should know the degree of difficulty to achieve any of these) keep the context in your mind that contemporary India was a hungry, poor, unresourceful, backward, problem infested---still be the case---country. Note, when you are a beggar you can't be a chooser. All this time she was working against strong internal and external opposing forces. Indira did -

Nationalization of Banks
End of Privy-Purse---it was end of samanthwad, if you know.
Bangladesh creation
Accepting 2 million Bangladeshi migrants
Sikkim integration
AP integration
Science & Technology investments
Space and Missile technology investments
Nuclear energy and research
Self reliant push
Family Planning
NAM - independent foreign policy
Ideological open support for apartheid, Palestine
Green revolution - led to self sufficiency in foodCalling
1977 election and gracefully accepted the defeat and let the democratic process take its course, unfortunately she lost to "Jokers" though.
Remember the intent of emergency was good, it was just the collateral side-effects created some damage.
First Asian Games
........this is by no means a complete list.

She had failures too---after all she was human being, contrary to Durga (called by her staunch opponents).It was in Indira's time that India became the 3rd largest reservoir of skilled scientific and technical manpower, the 5th military power, the 6th member of the nuclear club, 7th in the race for space and the 10th industrial power.

It was her absolute refusal to compromise India's sovereignty, unity, supreme interests and honor. H. Kissinger and Nixon called her "bitch". She stood that kind of American and external humiliation for India's supreme interest.

Please stop all this trash talk.
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not to forget that how she brought international shame to pakistan on the mutiny of bangla pakis being drowned in masses in the canal. pak couldnt rose back from that shame. and she became a confident of united nations. that's called handling foreign affairs at the right time. and nehru and indira were best if we still look in past among all the PMs we have had if we talk of foreign affairs.
 
seemasindhu said:
well so far if i look back, we never had any jat politician who could represent india internationally except bhupinder hooda now. they had local heads and local knowledge. we simply cant think of the international politics as some gram panchayat. thank god they didnt come to power. imagine how it would have been that devi lal adressing the house in US on nuclear deal in jatu and even if english (if taught), it's with jat accent. ha ha. i can imagine the trauma of indian origin people there in US when commented by US people that people there speak tribal language on international level. why people overlook the personality competence while thinking of PM? it's important. believe me. though sounds stupid in first reading. just imagine this communication and lifestyle backwardness with the problems the indian hockey team faced playing world cup in chak de india. PMship is not only a policymakers job, it's a spokesperson's job also--who represents india in international affairs. this one person means the people will think india is like this person. thank god we were saved from being called illiterate, pastoral shepherd.
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Seema bebey lets not mock the great people.who says that all have to be of international fame to be a leader of substance.How many Americans are truly international.If someone is not able to speak an international language that does not mean their contribution to this planet can be a restrictive factor due lack of that qualification.My father and mother never went to school but in spite of that their contribution had been much more than all of us multi linguistic offspring.And you call Bhupender Hooda an international leader......i swear there can not be a bigger joke than this.
 
seemasindhu said:
not to forget that how she brought international shame to pakistan on the mutiny of bangla pakis being drowned in masses in the canal. pak couldnt rose back from that shame. and she became a confident of united nations. that's called handling foreign affairs at the right time. and nehru and indira were best if we still look in past among all the PMs we have had if we talk of foreign affairs.
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But with that she brought bigger disasters for this peaceful nation.Her arrogance made sure that people and this nation suffered alike.
 
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vivek said:
Indira Gandhi was a self serving, low class woman. When she was in high school in Switzerland, she got in trouble with the boys. She was a poor student. Then she had the audacity to put her opposition in jail, when she thought her power was in trouble. She was the one that initially supported Bhindrawala in order to cause problems for the state ruling party. Her father was no better. He believed that he was better than other indians...somehow superior.
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hm buddy you seem to be getting much time to indulge in threads these days. Good to know that UNO too doesnt have much work sometimes. ha ha. you busy bee, have been long that we chat.
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devdahiya said:
Seema bebey lets not mock the great people.who says that all have to be of international fame to be a leader of substance.How many Americans are truly international.If someone is not able to speak an international language that does not mean their contribution to this planet can be a restrictive factor due lack of that qualification.My father and mother never went to school but in spite of that their contribution had been much more than all of us multi linguistic offspring.And you call Bhupender Hooda an international leader......i swear there can not be a bigger joke than this.
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i ddnt call hooda international leader. i just meant to say that he has been the better representer in jat clan so far.
 
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