vikasgulia
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Hi Shweta,
Happy V'Day!!(in advance)
Jit mere bhai, baaki log bhi hain yahan pe, hamien bhi happy V Day bol do...
@~ Valentines Day ~@
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Jit mere bhai, baaki log bhi hain yahan pe, hamien bhi happy V Day bol do...
Birthday celebrations in India and low key affairs ? Looks like you have no idea how much money is spent or collected every year on Mayawati's birthday. Our leaders will put western leaders on shame when it comes to birthday celebrations. Count the number of birthdays we celebrate as festivals.
1. Janmastmi
2 ram navmi
3. Mahavir Jayanti
4. Budh Purnima
5. Guru Nanak Jayanti
6. 2nd October
7. 14th November or Bal Divas
8. 5th September as teachers day
9. Prophet Mohmad's birthday ( its not celebrated even in Saudi)
Compare the above list with any other country in the west.
Just stand outside the house of even a small time leader on his birthday and you will see the type of gifts people bringing. We are a nation of contradictions.
If we take our celebrations, we are the most extravagent nation. Look at our weddings. Weddings are after all nothing more than union of two hearts. If so, then why so much of money being wasted ? How much money we spend even on feeding the people on the death of a person, what to talk of birthday....
Celebrations are certainly a big business and I see nothing wrong in that. Valentine's day can be a big business for farmers if we are innovative. Maharastra farmers sell millions of roses each year to Europe. Why can't some of us can develope Valentine's day tour pachages ? How about a slogan;
" Celebrate this years Valentine's day Heer Ranjha style in Sarson Ke Khet me"
RK^2
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jitendramavalia
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meaning of valentine day????????
can anyone tell me wht's meaning of this valentine word????????? abt it's origin.........
can anyone tell me wht's meaning of this valentine word????????? abt it's origin.........
bhai kuch khaas karan hai kya poochne ka ... waise aapne google try kiya hai ??? ya fir yaha hi poochne ka shauk hai ???
google se better definition koi nahi de sakta hai... juss try out... thoda haath pair chalo mere dost
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rabbu
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On Valentine Day Debat
I agree with the point of Mr. Virender Narwal who has written that Valentine Day is not our Culture. But through the Valentine Day , the Western Culture is entering in our Country, and the finaly result is that the INdian Youth and X Generation is diverting from our culture. and They are destroying emotional touch to human.and they have no value of our culture.
From--------------- A Royal JAT of INDIA
Ravinder Singh Panwar
India
MOb- 999-999-0768
imravipanwar@gmail.com
I agree with the point of Mr. Virender Narwal who has written that Valentine Day is not our Culture. But through the Valentine Day , the Western Culture is entering in our Country, and the finaly result is that the INdian Youth and X Generation is diverting from our culture. and They are destroying emotional touch to human.and they have no value of our culture.
From--------------- A Royal JAT of INDIA
Ravinder Singh Panwar
India
MOb- 999-999-0768
imravipanwar@gmail.com
sumitsehrawat
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virendernarwal
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पपलू
..आपके पप्पू का भी कितै चप्पू चाल्या के नही...
..या यूँ हीं पपलू बणे हाँडो हो....
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धनखड जी...100 ki 100 baat hai ye
aaj ke time Vday rose day type ke day bahut sahi rehte hai agar kisi ko apne pyar kaa izhaar kerna ho
..आपके पप्पू का भी कितै चप्पू चाल्या के नही.....या यूँ हीं पपलू बणे हाँडो हो.......?.
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sumitsehrawat
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vikasgulia
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Oho.. i missed this post earlier, thanks Sumit for bringing it forth ...
Rk sir, statistics in your post further strengthen my observations only. You rightly picked up Maya's case....she is just trying to immitate western way of celebration. By low key affair, i meant tradtional way of b day celebration involves community service and charity.
Also, the whole list of B days that you pasted here again reinforces the point that these supposedly individulist affair of B day celebration by western standards have taken a community festival form (with a messgae to follow these luminiaries) beacuse they have been picked by use of indian celebration.
Am not against anything and everything westernised, but the point is that everything western might not be necessarily a good and modern if we have ceratin gud things out here in INDIA.
Also, the point was majority of western festivities centre on individual appeasement whereas majority of indian festivals are inclusive and have an inherent message/service to society at large.
Also, the nature of western festivities involve instant gratification and that's why they are getting higher priority in todays youths' wishlist of celebration.
The ideas posted here are in no way aganist any western celbartion but to just nail home a point. and this point is palpable enough however hard we try to ingnore it! - as even pointed out by Rk sir for demagogues like Mayavati et al.
The question is Why should one leave good traditions to acquire new ones ? Can't we have an inclusive approcah here also.?
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shashiverma
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Very rightly said Vikas.
Thats one of the main and most irritating problem I find in today´s world. People simply accept and follow what is being projected by others around without weighing the purpose and the need. Go to a shoping mall and you will find an answer...I am not against it but the way you find people simply getting carried away without any thought is something which makes you feel standing in a futile and superfical world....losing their grounds every now and then.
There is lot more good and genuinely meaningful in our culture. And this is ofcourse is our responsibility to ensure that we carry the good ones and if needed may discard which we can not approve and accept (But only after thorough consideration of all the possible pros and cons).
And there is no harm in accepting new traditions if one finds them more meaningful and believes that they add more value to their life. One should be open to changes if they are needed. But for heaven sake....do not do it simply because the whole world is after it....do trust your brain. What makes sense to others may not be necessarily good for you.
sumitsehrawat
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Friends,
We all are different people and so have different perspectives of things. The issue discussed here is "The Valentine's Day". It is supposed to be the day for expressing your love to your loved ones. Mostly, it is the boy-girl love.
I need to ask you all one question. Who are you to decide whether or not this day should be celebrated. I do not think there is any obligation on such a celebration. Please don't take me wrong. Let people who want to celebrate it celebrate it. And those who do not wish so, don't. Everyone in this world has been gifted by God with a brain. We all know and understand what is good and what is bad for us. Even though we are unsure, we use our brain to make decisions. Again, the decisions can be good decisions or bad decisions. That is how we learn in life. Decisions!! Let people themselves decide whether or not they want such an occasion.
And please, it does not influence any society. Not that the Hindu activists (for example) are ignorant about it, but then they are a gang of jobless people who are frustrated in their respective lives and just need an excuse (not a reason) for being destructive. And, the saddest part is you offer them a meaningful job they won't take it. They are happy living in denial.
Anyways...the point is let's leave it for people themselves to decide what is love and what is lust...what is drama and what is not. And please for God's sake, do not take it from a adopting-western-culture viewpoint. No. I am not wanting to discuss even its benefits either.
Let's just leave it on every single head, the brain to decide. I am not a doctor but I do know that every brain works.
Thanks,
Sumit
We all are different people and so have different perspectives of things. The issue discussed here is "The Valentine's Day". It is supposed to be the day for expressing your love to your loved ones. Mostly, it is the boy-girl love.
I need to ask you all one question. Who are you to decide whether or not this day should be celebrated. I do not think there is any obligation on such a celebration. Please don't take me wrong. Let people who want to celebrate it celebrate it. And those who do not wish so, don't. Everyone in this world has been gifted by God with a brain. We all know and understand what is good and what is bad for us. Even though we are unsure, we use our brain to make decisions. Again, the decisions can be good decisions or bad decisions. That is how we learn in life. Decisions!! Let people themselves decide whether or not they want such an occasion.
And please, it does not influence any society. Not that the Hindu activists (for example) are ignorant about it, but then they are a gang of jobless people who are frustrated in their respective lives and just need an excuse (not a reason) for being destructive. And, the saddest part is you offer them a meaningful job they won't take it. They are happy living in denial.
Anyways...the point is let's leave it for people themselves to decide what is love and what is lust...what is drama and what is not. And please for God's sake, do not take it from a adopting-western-culture viewpoint. No. I am not wanting to discuss even its benefits either.
Let's just leave it on every single head, the brain to decide. I am not a doctor but I do know that every brain works.
Thanks,
Sumit
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Bhai, Thread jisne suru kiya usi ke liye hai Greetings in advance !!
Jit mere bhai, baaki log bhi hain yahan pe, hamien bhi happy V Day bol do...
THE VALENTINE DAY !
Two situations :
1. It's March. You have desperate feelings for 'someone' and need to express that. Would you like to wait for Valentine Day ?
2. It's first week of Feburary and next week there would be Valentine Day. Do you think you should select 'someone' to perpose on that special day ?
Just analyze both situations ( by heart or brain .... whatever rules you ) and conclude the significance of Valentine day.
For true feelings every day is Velentine Day and for occasionist every Valentine Day is a chance.
Foreign Impact :
For GOD's sake don't blame them to intrude our culture instead of looking upon our own behaviour. They visit India ..... learn whatever they can, adopt whatever they like here but never forget their roots.
They read Ramayana and Mahabharta here but doesn't compare them with Bible. They learn Yoga but don't ditch the Aerobics. They like Astrology but also watch NASA updates.
Modernisation is not just to follow WEST but it is all about adopting gud things from every religion, culture and nation but not at the cost of our own roots.
People feel proud to be an American, British, French, Russian, German etc etc .... but we Indian feel proud to be a NRI. .........God Bless.
Two situations :
1. It's March. You have desperate feelings for 'someone' and need to express that. Would you like to wait for Valentine Day ?
2. It's first week of Feburary and next week there would be Valentine Day. Do you think you should select 'someone' to perpose on that special day ?
Just analyze both situations ( by heart or brain .... whatever rules you ) and conclude the significance of Valentine day.
For true feelings every day is Velentine Day and for occasionist every Valentine Day is a chance.
Foreign Impact :
For GOD's sake don't blame them to intrude our culture instead of looking upon our own behaviour. They visit India ..... learn whatever they can, adopt whatever they like here but never forget their roots.
They read Ramayana and Mahabharta here but doesn't compare them with Bible. They learn Yoga but don't ditch the Aerobics. They like Astrology but also watch NASA updates.
Modernisation is not just to follow WEST but it is all about adopting gud things from every religion, culture and nation but not at the cost of our own roots.
People feel proud to be an American, British, French, Russian, German etc etc .... but we Indian feel proud to be a NRI. .........God Bless.
Comparing oranges with apples.........
I protest!!!! This is wrong!
And talking of which the comparison itself is fallacious. You are comparing two different class of nations, first world with us, the third world nation.
I protest!!!! This is wrong!
And talking of which the comparison itself is fallacious. You are comparing two different class of nations, first world with us, the third world nation.
Humans should be humans ...... whether first or third world !
Who declared that which is first World ?
We taught them how to count and they counted us as third world nation ....... just becoz we are more than ready to accept that
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sidchhikara
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Humans should be humans ...... whether first or third world !
Who declared that which is first World ?
We taught them how to count and they counted us as third world nation ....... just becoz we are more than ready to accept that
Bhaisaab,
There are 2 India's - developed India and third world India.
citizens of developed India are educated, have jobs, houses, businesses etc.
third world india has nothing.... they are also in majority.
There is no use being in denial.
Please try living in a jhuggi for a week with no sanitation, no clean drinking water, nothing to eat, disease all-around and then claim India to be developed.
The number of poor people in such conditions has significantly reduced in the last decade and will continue to decline... but as of now they are the majority.
Indians taught others how to count...but chose not to teach their own. They were more interested in caste and regional strife.
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I am well aware of that Bhai
situation is much worse here than what you said. I don't deny the real fact.But the solution wud not pop up by celebrating few "so called days" and feeling happy and contented.
I had worked here both in Third World India and Developed India .... from working in my fields like a labourer during paddy season ( >48 degree temp in June ) to punching a key board while sitting on an armchair in an air conditioned building ( as a Software Engineer ) ....
Few Ambani's can't change the scenario here .......... but it's upon us ..... individuals ....... what to upgrade and where ?
I hope that i am practical but not too idealistic
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