Why to Feel Proud to be an Indian !!

[sandeepkadian05]

Well mukesh I still can't believe you need reasons to be proud of your motherland.. and regarding your point about people discouraging someone who looks to do something about it i will just give you another one of Mahatma Gandhi's quote- " YOU MUST BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD". So if u dont like what you see, try and change it. No one is asking you to start a revolution or anything but even a single individual can make a difference and lets be clear I am not saying anyone around here hates India but looking at the country with such apparent disgust and contempt as shown by some people is a touch hard to digest....

If one criticizes the bad things of his country that doesn't mean he hates his country or ashamed of being the citizen of that country. I can sacrifice n numbers of life for my Nation but that doesn't mean I should keep my eye closed away from all evils which are very much there in this country and the irony is that they are increasing by geometric mean. If somebody (by mistake) tries to speak against them or thinks to change them, then he is discouraged like anything, Log kehte hai bait ja chup chaap aya hai samaj sudharak and most of them chup ho hi jate hai..aur galat bi nai isme kuch akhir use bi apni roji roti ka bi dhyan rakhna hai.. It's practical.

One more thing there is nothing wrong in asking for the reasons to be proud or not to be proud.

As Mahatma Gandhi rightly said that "Faith must be by reasons otherwise it dies"

now reasons could be any thing.

 

[raj2rif]

NOW we are talking..

well to set the record right first..
I DONT HATE INDIA (Jeez..y m i even clarifying...but just for the record),,its just that m disappointed ,,as now i hv been with one or two shallow/irascible members.
so guys DONT infer or read what u WANT to...
n its been stone-pelting from soo many people here..that even if i wud have liked (which i doubt) to address u personally , i cant!

Now...let me set it staraight..
1. One of the members was aghast/startled on the word hippocrate (i thought its a doctors oath) n " spade"
O dear gullible one...u cud hv checked the dictionary first
its an idiom "calling a spade a spade" means telling the way it is..

2. As i was discussing with one of my frnds here yest. that i voiced my (damned..oh so much umbrage)acc. to some ) thoughts here coz i thought we were all Indians
i wud hv ferociously fought over with sum1 of a different nationality if he dared to say such things bout India. As my mom says she points out my mistakes (although even i get mad at her sumtimes for doing so )only coz she thinks m her own..n in front of other wud go to any length to protect my respect.

3. Wud sum of the guys who wrote real NASTY comments here wud really earn a persons respect/faith in their views/ country by doing so.
Of course u wont mind losing a person,,,but as said- u already hv got excess!!!

they say "no bad blood" but it exactly shows how bad their blood is (ok-pun certainly intended)

sum people take a li'l while,to grow out of their teens ,,n start gettin personal
if u care to check,,I hv not been yet.


4. There still r sum latitudarian people here who hv been so understanding and have a big heart n mind to accept others' beliefs even if they dont concur

even Mr Raj Rathee's signature proves it

as Mukesh has summarised it...give it a thought..
kudos to u guys who let it be a healthy discussion without any bias/prejudices



now...gotta go for a jog...but trust me...will be back soon once as i hv been stimulated again to let it out of my system..

I may put sum solid proofs for my disgust n previous posts..

so guys watch out this space

n for the rest of u ...GROW UP...GET A LIFE !!

Dear Deeepshi,

As I had said earlier, that there are many things those are bad in our country, but there are good things as well. Bad and good things are in all countries, some them affect us directly and some indirectly. The problem with most of us is that sometimes we don’t see beyond our nose (again idiom as you said otherwise some might take a literal meaning).

Absence of the nationalism looks to be the one of the biggest problem. Even in US, I see a lot of Punjabi, Gujarati, Tamils, Jats, Brahmins and so on, but a very few who claim to be Indian. Mind you in public they all claim to be proud to be an Indian. Probably that is the only country that allows them to be identified as they do. Here on this forum we have many people who would rather be called a Jat who happen to be Indian and not an Indian who happen to be Jat. That is the difference.

The main cause of poor state of public facilities in our country is corruption and accountability. Where in the world a political leader reward his supporters the elected members of the assembly/parliament with land gifts. Where in the world one can see the horse-trading of the elected officials and being praised by public. These very people will come back in election and ask for our votes and good thing is that we will again elect them. AAM AADMI has no say in the state of affairs even though we do have a democratic set up, the reason is those who can think about good and bad, do not get out from their cozy homes to go and vote when it matters. My problem is not this, the problem is that we need to search our own soul and ask one simple question, “What have I done to stop this?” That is the issue I want to raise and discuss. Giving reasons to be proud of or ashamed of is just repeating the facts in the manner we perceive them. We have PM Manmohan Singh’s resume posted here, but the PM alone is not India. We did not even elect him. Real India is the character from the stories of Mr. Prem Chand, that Garibdas who lives in a remote area. That is real India.

Why I am proud of India is that I belong to a country, which has a very rich culture and resilience and sustainability. It has survived the foreign rule and corrupt politicians of past and present. I am also proud of the fact that I was able to survive in such a system with dignity and my convictions. We all can do our bit, and the things will improve.

 

[sidchhikara]

I donot understand why some people are being so judgemental towards people who have a dissenting voice.
I personally feel proud of people here who dissent and say that they donot like certain things about the country and want some changes. Atleast they are not sheep.

How can anybody be proud of everything in the country, that would be delusional.

I also see a lot of overseas people (excluding the good Colonel above, of course!) beating their chest about national pride. Overcompensating ???
Bhailogon, ek request hai ... desh vaapis aa jao .... airport pe custom aale saari pride dheeli kar deenge........... door door te keyboard peet ke ghane pride ke lecture na diya karen ....... 10 th class ke board ke paper mein jo essay likha tha woh repeat karan ki jaroorat na hai.

You have to agree that there is a problem before you can even think about fixing it.

 

[ygulia]

I donot understand why some people are being so judgemental towards people who have a dissenting voice.
I personally feel proud of people here who dissent and say that they donot like certain things about the country and want some changes. Atleast they are not sheep.

How can anybody be proud of everything in the country, that would be a delusion.

I also see a lot of overseas people (excluding the good Colonel above, of course!) beating their chest about national pride. Overcompensating ???
Bhailogon, ek request hai ... desh vaapis aa jao .... airport pe custom aale saari pride dheeli kar deenge.

You have to agree that there is a problem before you can even think about fixing it.

First read the comments of the person and then only say something. If you will break the law then definitely Customs will take care of it. I have never been bothered by customs or immigration officials in India.

 

[sandeepkadian05]

Who said there are no problems?????? I believe what has been said is that every country has its own shortcomings and so has India and rather than berating your own country for it, you should try to do something about it.... I haven't been bothered by the immigration and custom officials either.... If you try to smuggle something without paying taxes, customs will make you pay for it and That is bad how?????? No one is trying to prove himself the biggest patriot over here, the only objection is with people who are referring to India in disrespecting manner. so stop looking for an issue that doesn't exist....

I donot understand why some people are being so judgemental towards people who have a dissenting voice.
I personally feel proud of people here who dissent and say that they donot like certain things about the country and want some changes. Atleast they are not sheep.

How can anybody be proud of everything in the country, that would be delusional.

I also see a lot of overseas people (excluding the good Colonel above, of course!) beating their chest about national pride. Overcompensating ???
Bhailogon, ek request hai ... desh vaapis aa jao .... airport pe custom aale saari pride dheeli kar deenge........... door door te keyboard peet ke ghane pride ke lecture na diya karen ....... 10 th class ke board ke paper mein jo essay likha tha woh repeat karan ki jaroorat na hai.

You have to agree that there is a problem before you can even think about fixing it.

 

[rajivsp]

Dear Rajiv,

Kindly dont post 'Forwarded Mail' stuff here, give your own original views!

I've read this mail way back when Manmohan wasn't PM!

Thanks!

Rock on
Jit

Dear Jit

You might be aware of the qualifications of our PM, but not everybody here on JatLand. So its better to share it with everybody and a strong point to be proud to be Indian.

It is ok PM is not only real India. But there are only few people who made history and we are proud to be Indian/xyz. If we remove the Name of VED VYAS from our old scriptures, then there is nothing left much.......

Regards

rajiv

 

[nysa]

I donot understand why some people are being so judgemental towards people who have a dissenting voice.
I personally feel proud of people here who dissent and say that they donot like certain things about the country and want some changes. Atleast they are not sheep.

How can anybody be proud of everything in the country, that would be delusional.

I also see a lot of overseas people (excluding the good Colonel above, of course!) beating their chest about national pride. Overcompensating ???
Bhailogon, ek request hai ... desh vaapis aa jao .... airport pe custom aale saari pride dheeli kar deenge........... door door te keyboard peet ke ghane pride ke lecture na diya karen ....... 10 th class ke board ke paper mein jo essay likha tha woh repeat karan ki jaroorat na hai.

You have to agree that there is a problem before you can even think about fixing it.

Who's saying all's well with INDIA?? of course like any other country and a lot needs to be done!


Rest ur signatures says it all!!

 

[ritu]

hmm rt nysa......par jissa bhi hai apna hai.

Who's saying all's well with INDIA?? of course like any other country and a lot needs to be done!


Rest ur signatures says it all!!

 

[vpannu]

hmm rt nysa......par jissa bhi hai apna hai.

hmm sahi kahya, aaapni maa ne bhi kadde koye daakkann bataaya kare

 

[sidchhikara]

hmm rt nysa......par jissa bhi hai apna hai.

Ritu, are you sure about that? All this time I thought it belonged to the Gandhi family, Lallloo, Mayawati, Mulayam etc etc.
The only ownership proof they gave me was a blue passport and I was told to shut up and stay still because what I said and did, did'nt matter.

 

[sidchhikara]

Who's saying all's well with INDIA?? of course like any other country and a lot needs to be done!


Rest ur signatures says it all!!

Not me !

 

[sidchhikara]

Who said there are no problems?????? I believe what has been said is that every country has its own shortcomings and so has India and rather than berating your own country for it, you should try to do something about it.... I haven't been bothered by the immigration and custom officials either.... If you try to smuggle something without paying taxes, customs will make you pay for it and That is bad how?????? No one is trying to prove himself the biggest patriot over here, the only objection is with people who are referring to India in disrespecting manner. so stop looking for an issue that doesn't exist....

Paying for it is not sufficient, the custom's official said that they would send me to jail. I had brought in 3 kilos of charas, 2.5 kilos of cannabis, 1 kg of sulfa, 1.5 kg of ecstasy, 1 kg each of LSD, methamphetamine, Oxycontin, super skunk, sweet mary jane, chronic, hashish.
Then on top of that I started calling them names since I donot have a lovely relationship with them like you do.

So I guess you are right, it was my fault since I roll into the airport with suitcase full of contraband. If I just had a few gifts for my family that exceeded 10000 rs, I would not have had a problem. I would just have to visit the bathroom on the left hand side (right after immigration at IGI) before I passed customs, and put on any jewelery - rings, necklaces, watches. Stuff my pockets with cellphones and dvd players, put the bottle of scotch in front of my underwear AND just walk out masquerading as a gay palika bazar salesman with a hard on.

 

[ygulia]

Not me !

Iska matlab aapki kathni aur karni mei farak hai...........

 

[sidchhikara]

Iska matlab aapki kathni aur karni mei farak hai...........

Ek muhawra meri taraf se bhi....

Gaye ki chaaron than ek se nahi hote.

wah wah....

 

[sumeetmalik]

Paying for it is not sufficient, the custom's official said that they would send me to jail. I had brought in 3 kilos of charas, 2.5 kilos of cannabis, 1 kg of sulfa, 1.5 kg of ecstasy, 1 kg each of LSD, methamphetamine, Oxycontin, super skunk, sweet mary jane, chronic, hashish.
Then on top of that I started calling them names since I donot have a lovely relationship with them like you do.

So I guess you are right, it was my fault since I roll into the airport with suitcase full of contraband. If I just had a few gifts for my family that exceeded 10000 rs, I would not have had a problem. I would just have to visit the bathroom on the left hand side (right after immigration at IGI) before I passed customs, and put on any jewelery - rings, necklaces, watches. Stuff my pockets with cellphones and dvd players, put the bottle of scotch in front of my underwear AND just walk out masquerading as a gay palika bazar salesman with a hard on.

hehehe...Sid you bugger! You practice your creative writing skills here. Not fair. hehehe.

 

[ritu]

hmm ye america to apna honn te raha aeb indiane bhi aapna na kahu tu na ghar ke rahhe na ghat ke waali baat hojjagi.mere liyye to aapna hi hai kyunki mere saare aapne waha hai.meri pehchan tak.i am not ever bothered by any gandhi aur whatevers claims.

Ritu, are you sure about that? All this time I thought it belonged to the Gandhi family, Lallloo, Mayawati, Mulayam etc etc.
The only ownership proof they gave me was a blue passport and I was told to shut up and stay still because what I said and did, did'nt matter.

 

[sidchhikara]

hmm ye america to apna honn te raha aeb indiane bhi aapna na kahu tu na ghar ke rahhe na ghat ke waali baat hojjagi.mere liyye to aapna hi hai kyunki mere saare aapne waha hai.meri pehchan tak.i am not ever bothered by any gandhi aur whatevers claims.

You are quite honest.

 

[sidchhikara]

hehehe...Sid you bugger! You practice your creative writing skills here. Not fair. hehehe.

Hahaha ! Yeah, I have to get lose this habit of trying to feed the beast.

 

[naveenbazad]

Rituuuu jeee bilkulll sachhhh

mere liyye to aapna hi hai kyunki mere saare aapne waha hai.meri pehchan tak.i am not ever bothered by any gandhi aur whatevers claims.

hmm ye america to apna honn te raha aeb indiane bhi aapna na kahu tu na ghar ke rahhe na ghat ke waali baat hojjagi.

THINGS WHICH I REMEMBER ARE ALL FROM INDIA AND MERE TO APNE SAB HI YAHA AA GAYE .. EXCEPT MUMMY PAPA WHOM I DONT REMEMBER ...
LEKIN MUJHE NAHI LAGTA KI YAHA KE HAWA PAANI MEIN SUKH CHAIN SE BAIDTHNA LIKHA HEIN ......

LIFE SIMPLE NO DOUBT ... ASSOCIATION WITH COUNTRY NO WAY THOUGH I WILL BE CITIZEN

I DO PLAY WITH GORA GORI VOLLEYBALL, BEACHVOLLEYBALL, GOES TO GYM, HAVE NICE SWIM... PARTYING ON 40TH 50TH NEAR SEARS TOWER BUT THESE THINGS CAN THEY REPLACE A NICE CUP OF TEA IN MORNING WITH MY FREINDS MOTHER IN INDIA ...NO WAY .. CAN THINGS OVER HERE CAN BE REMEMBERED NO WAY.........


I DO HAVE FEELING WHETHER U STUDY WHATEVER .. HOWARD PRINCETON OR ANY WHERE .. NO MATTER HOW MUCH U STAY OVER HERE AND PARTY .. CAN U ASSOCIATE URSELF WITH THESE PPLL ... I THINK NO //////

LIIVNG IN INDIA IS BEST WHEN U OWN A FARMLAND .. HAVE UR ALL FACILITIES IN IT AND ENJOY THE SIMPLICITY OF LIFE .... ELSE LIFE IN INDIA IS SO HARD THAT U START HATING IT

and when u r not educated sometimes INDIA tells u how hard the life is ..(( sometimessssss))

 

[spdeshwal]

ha ha ha...thanks Mamu!

Lekin munnae bera sae...aap munnae eeb tae chadan laag re so...lekin
jaldi he dhakka bhi de doge...

No, that is not true! Kati dhaka na dyun
I believe , You always speak your mind, without taking sides.

I know, you are a person of very modern outlook. A post like that from you was heart warming and gave me the feeling that the stand taken by me other like minded in this debate was vindicable!


Cheers!