Why to Feel Proud to be an Indian !!

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I donot understand why some people are being so judgemental towards people who have a dissenting voice.
I personally feel proud of people here who dissent and say that they donot like certain things about the country and want some changes. Atleast they are not sheep.

How can anybody be proud of everything in the country, that would be delusional.

I also see a lot of overseas people (excluding the good Colonel above, of course!) beating their chest about national pride. Overcompensating ???
Bhailogon, ek request hai ... desh vaapis aa jao .... airport pe custom aale saari pride dheeli kar deenge........... door door te keyboard peet ke ghane pride ke lecture na diya karen ....... 10 th class ke board ke paper mein jo essay likha tha woh repeat karan ki jaroorat na hai.
You have to agree that there is a problem before you can even think about fixing it.



Thek kah se bhai Sid, ye custom aale te isee hi sen. And why only to single out custom, even the immigration quarantine and so on. Par bhai in custom, immigration aalaya ki jaat issi e se aur kaam bhi, chahe i
India ho chahe America! Yaad nahi pachhe si Minstran tak ki patloon deeli karwa li thee, ude pride deela nahi hota ke! American karen jib duty, indian karen jib harassment????

Cheers!
 
Sorry guys for that "ROTTEN" thing
I had realized the day b4,,n yest i was talkin to one of my editor frnds that tha ROTTEN thing in Capslock was.. err..bad in taste. n to remove it.

Was going too strong... dont hv any right to say for a country m not even residing in or care for!

but equally rotten was one of the replies from a member which has now been de;leted

Trust me,, i'l throw sum light on the situation here n wot i "felt" ,,wrong or otherwise ,,when I was in India.

Stay tuned,:), but don't.....DON'T... be judgemantal,,,coz i despise n pity judgemental and prejudiced people.
 
Sumggling doesn't just include drugs.. Anything for which you dont pay tax and bring into the country is smuggling and illegal..... It doesn't matter that they are supposed to be gifts to your family members. People blame govt for not spending on Infrastructure and then avoid paying taxes.... Its thru taxes only that govt can raise money for development....


Paying for it is not sufficient, the custom's official said that they would send me to jail. I had brought in 3 kilos of charas, 2.5 kilos of cannabis, 1 kg of sulfa, 1.5 kg of ecstasy, 1 kg each of LSD, methamphetamine, Oxycontin, super skunk, sweet mary jane, chronic, hashish.
Then on top of that I started calling them names since I donot have a lovely relationship with them like you do.

So I guess you are right, it was my fault since I roll into the airport with suitcase full of contraband. If I just had a few gifts for my family that exceeded 10000 rs, I would not have had a problem. I would just have to visit the bathroom on the left hand side (right after immigration at IGI) before I passed customs, and put on any jewelery - rings, necklaces, watches. Stuff my pockets with cellphones and dvd players, put the bottle of scotch in front of my underwear AND just walk out masquerading as a gay palika bazar salesman with a hard on.
 
Very Right, Very Right! ;):cool: Bhai Sumeet, ish Creative Sid ki writings pad pad ke to kati jee saa aajaye hai .... I luv the way Sid bro express his views in sucha creative, witty manner! :) ... awesome bro ... keep it up!


Rock on
Jit


hehehe...Sid you bugger! You practice your creative writing skills here. Not fair. hehehe.
 
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Devi ji

Main Maafi maangta hoon aapse .. aap mahan hain main moorkh khal kaami .. maaf ker dijiye madam ... Bus main bada nahin ho pa raha hoon like you .. Kyun ki aapne yeh gazal suni hogi ki ... Badon ki dekh de duniya mera dil bada hone se darta hai ... Satte bhai isnai bee delete ker diye ... India ki ke parwah hai .. Healthy discussion hai na .. sab motte ho jaange
 
Totally disagree

LIIVNG IN INDIA IS BEST WHEN U OWN A FARMLAND .. HAVE UR ALL FACILITIES IN IT AND ENJOY THE SIMPLICITY OF LIFE .... ELSE LIFE IN INDIA IS SO HARD THAT U START HATING IT

and when u r not educated sometimes INDIA tells u how hard the life is ..(( sometimessssss))

I totally disagree with Naveen on the last point ... :(

"Even if we dont own a farmland still people survive here. As far as
uneducated people are concerned life is tougher for them anywhere in the
world. Its not like that if they are staying in America being uneducated
they will hold the post of an high ranked officer and being in India they
will leave like a begger.

As far as the thing with facilities is concerned our cities are also not
lacking behind it. Its just the rosy life of the West and Europe which
makes us to criticize our own country.We all will appreciate those
facilities but then our situations and their the situations are different.
Although basic needs remain the same. Our cultures are also different.

Aur itney saal saari duniya ko lutney ke baad kiska bala na hoga.
In fact they should thank India and other underdeveloped or developing
countries that aaj unka desh kaafi aagey hai. Agar hum unki technique
sikte tho shayad unse aagey hotey.... :)
 
Mera gaon mera desh

Bhai Mukesh seede se Baat hain jis tarah Apnee Khaat pe need achhi Aati , apney maa key haat ke roti achee lagey hai , phir gaon, district, pradesh ,basey hee desh apna hee achaa lagey .
 
Lo g maine socha apne kuch bekaar se shabd mai bhi likh deta hun iss thread me bahut kishish ke k naa likhu kuch but aa heee gaya atlast!!

First of all i want to say that i think this thread has been started to tell why we feel proud to be an Indian, but lot of people are discussing about lacking points of our country. We can create a another thread for that i think:D. So please give ur +ive view about our country.

So truely speaking i feel proud to be an Indian becoz i born in India. If was born in America i will feel proud for that country.
And another major point that makes me happy about India is lot of liberty for doing the thing those i won't be able to do if have been part of some other country:D.
And other thing which makes me pround to become an Indian is the love & affection between the people, our helping nature for others.

Here i am talking about +ive points of my country:)
So Being an India i feel proud to be an India:rock
 
koi bhi kissi desh ki badai kare .. soch lee

arre bhai koi bhi kissi desh ki badai kare usse pehle soch le ... CAN any system anywhere in the world can work with such a population .. yeh apna desh chal raha hein bahut badi baat hein......

INDENPENDENCE HEIN KISSI DESH MEIN JITNI JITNI INDIA MEIN HEIN ......

itni population ho aa jaaye .. australia america europe kaa daacha aisa baidhega ki sambal mein nahi aayega.. aur phir kaun country number 1 hoggaaaa.....INDIAAAAAAA
 
Very Right, Very Right! ;):cool: Bhai Sumeet, ish Creative Sid ki writings pad pad ke to kati jee saa aajaye hai .... I luv the way Sid bro express his views in sucha creative, witty manner! :) ... awesome bro ... keep it up!


Rock on
Jit

Jitey ... glad you got a laugh out of it.
 
I totally disagree with Naveen on the last point ... :(

"Even if we dont own a farmland still people survive here. As far as
uneducated people are concerned life is tougher for them anywhere in the
world. Its not like that if they are staying in America being uneducated
they will hold the post of an high ranked officer and being in India they
will leave like a begger.

In India there is no safety net. If someone is poor and willing to work, there is still a chance that they might not get enough to eat that day for get about clothes, electricity, housing, healthcare. There is chronic hunger and malnutrition especially in BIMARU states.
This is not the case in America, here if someone is willing to work, even in the worst paid job, they can eat all they want and can also afford some kind of housing (maybe shared) with more than basic facilities.

As far as the thing with facilities is concerned our cities are also not
lacking behind it. Its just the rosy life of the West and Europe which
makes us to criticize our own country.We all will appreciate those
facilities but then our situations and their the situations are different.
Although basic needs remain the same. Our cultures are also different.

I am not sure which city you live in, all the cities I have lived in lacked basic facilities like transportation, roads, power, water, trash disposal to a great extent.
My parents live in a sector in Gurgaon... there are massive power cuts and lot of times they have to order water from a tanker... even after the fact that they are willing to pay for power and water. There is trash strewn on the streets and empty land - animals like cows, pigs, donkeys, dogs, monkeys dig into that trash.

Our infrastructure and human development is worst in the world except some African countries and some failed states.

Aur itney saal saari duniya ko lutney ke baad kiska bala na hoga.
In fact they should thank India and other underdeveloped or developing
countries that aaj unka desh kaafi aagey hai. Agar hum unki technique
sikte tho shayad unse aagey hotey.... :)

Well, if we go by that logic, Afghanistan should be atleast as rich as some European countries because India ko lootne mein Ghazni and company ne bhi kasar nahi rakhi thi.
 
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Being Hotly discussed on Business Week

Why India Will Beat China

An entrenched and vibrant democracy will ultimately drive India to outperform China socially and economically

by William Nobrega







Authoritarian regimes often yield impressive short-term economic results, as seen in Germany in the 1930s, the Soviet Union in the 1950s, Brazil in the 1960s, and China in the 1990s. Unencumbered by such things as property rights, legal recourse, and public debate, the authoritarian regime can harness significant economic and political resources to create impressive industrial and economic feats.
Conversely, democratic regimes tend to be sloppy affairs with loud public discourse, a vocal press, stubborn land owners, and a myriad of civil liberties. Far from being able to harness economic resources, the government often must act more as a regulator. The result is that there are very few grandiose government-sponsored projects. Instead, there are countless private-sector initiatives driven by the invisible hand of the market. While the authoritarian regime is envied by some, the fact is that longer term, this type of socioeconomic model has typically led to economic and social distortions.
That is the dilemma that China faces today. Since the 1980s, the Chinese government has focused on developing an export-driven economy supported by an artificially undervalued currency. Foreign direct investment was encouraged while domestic consumption was limited. Massive infrastructure projects were initiated, fueled by a growing trade surplus, with cities sprouting up in the hinterlands like some mythical phoenix. For years, the Chinese economy benefited from these policies with double-digit gross domestic product growth, vast foreign currency reserves, and ever increasing capital inflows.
Inflation Could Spark Social Unrest

But now the economic and social distortions have begun to appear with rising inflation rates, numerous asset bubbles, looming overcapacity, and rampant institutionalized corruption. The Chinese government finds itself in a quandary. If the government allows its currency to rapidly appreciate to reduce inflation it will drive down exports and fuel unemployment. If it fails to quell inflation, social unrest will quickly unfold.
But even if the hare is running into obstacles of its own design, how will it give India the competitive edge? The advantage comes in the form of an entrenched and vibrant democracy that will ultimately drive India to outperform China socially and economically. Messy, frustrating, and more often than not agonizingly slow, India's democracy would seem to be chaotic at the surface. But if you look deeper you will quickly see why the tortoise will win this race. Let's take a look at two of the major advantages that India's democracy provides:
• Property Rights: As India becomes urbanized many families will choose to sell or borrow against their land so that they can start businesses, buy apartments, or provide education opportunities for their children. India is at the beginning of a gradual migration that is being driven by the development of high-end manufacturing and other sunrise industries that will require a vast pool of semiskilled and skilled labor. This migration will create an increasingly urban India that is expected to attract more than 200 million rural inhabitants to urban centers by 2025, primarily in what are known as secondary or "B & C" cities.
This transition will facilitate the sale of land holdings by an estimated 30 million farmers and 170 million other individuals indirectly tied to the agricultural sector. The sale of these holdings is expected to generate more than $1 trillion in capital by 2025. This capital will have a multiplier effect on the Indian economy that could exceed $3 trillion. The development of the mortgage-backed security and asset-backed security markets, driven by financial institutions like Citigroup (C), will create the liquidity required to free up this capital.



China, by contrast, has no rural property rights. China's 750 million rural residents who lease land are at the mercy of the local and regional government as to what compensation they will receive, if any, when they are forced from the land as a result of development, infrastructure improvements, etc. Additionally they have no right to borrow against their lease, and as such they have no assets. In fact, the Chinese government's official figures state that more than 200,000 hectares of rural land are taken from rural residents every year with little or no compensation. According to some estimates, between 1992 and 2005 20 million farmers were evicted from agriculture due to land acquisition, and between 1996 and 2005 more than 21% of arable land in China has been put to non-agriculture use.
The result is not unexpected, with over 87,000 mass incidents (or riots) reported in 2005, a 50% increase from 2003. Many provincial governments in China have begun to use plainclothes policemen to beat, intimidate, or otherwise subdue any peasant that dares to oppose these land grabs. And, as would be expected, the beneficiaries from these policies are developers and corrupt government officials.
• Rule of Law: The rule of law is a fundamental cornerstone of any modern society. India has a legal system that has been in place for well over 100 years. This legal system is internationally respected and includes laws that protect intellectual property as well as physical property. The rule of law creates predictability and stability that allows entrepreneurial behavior to flourish. This is clearly evident in India, with more than 6,000 companies listed in the stock exchanges, compared to approximately 2,000 in China. More telling is the fact that of the 6,000 listed companies in India only approximately 100 are state-owned. This stands in stark contrast to China, where more than 1,200 of the 2,000 companies listed on the exchanges are state-owned.
Can there be any doubt as to where the next Microsoft (MSFT) or Intel (INTC) will be created? Certainly not China!
More than 100 Indian companies that completed initial public offerings as midcap companies now have a market capitalization of over $1 billion. Companies such as Jet Airways (JET.BO), Bharti Tele-Ventures, Infosys Technologies (INFY), Reliance Communications (RLCM.BO), Tata Motors (TTM) (which just acquired Jaguar), Wipro Technologies (WIT), and Hindalco Industries (HALC.BO) are becoming multinational competitors with globally recognized brands. China also has numerous companies that have a market capitalization of over $1 billion, but the majority of these are state-owned behemoths recognized by their sheer size and not their nimbleness.
When the rule of law is recognized by investors and foreign companies as something that is beyond question it serves to facilitate additional investments in research and development. For instance, 150 of the top global multinationals now have research and development bases in India. Additionally the U.S. Food & Drug Administration has certified more companies in India then in any other country outside the U.S., a testament to the innovation that free markets and the rule of law foster.
 
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Little Protection for IP in China

China has a legal system that does little to protect intellectual and physical property rights, a fact highlighted in the 2007 edition of the International Property Rights Index, which ranks China with Nigeria in protecting intellectual property rights. In fact, China's illegal copying of movies, music, and software cost companies $2.2 billion in 2006 sales, according to an estimate by lobby groups representing Microsoft, Walt Disney (DIS), and Vivendi (VIV.PA). This figure may in fact be understated as it does not include pirated products that have been shipped to overseas markets by government-controlled Chinese companies.
The rule of law when applied evenly and justly in a democratic society also helps to ensure that wealth accumulation does not favor those individuals in political office or individuals connected to those in political office.
Democracy is a messy thing, especially when you have an electorate that exceeds 600 million people who are motivated to vote. However, democracy also helps to ensure that individual liberties are respected and that the government is responsive and beholden to the will of the people, rich or poor. A democracy also ensures accountability through impartial courts that help enforce and protect such things as property rights, environmental rights, human rights, and good governance.
India's democracy is far from perfect, but it is also quite young, and as incomes rise and the populace becomes more informed we can expect that India's government institutions will become more responsive and transparent.
And what about the hare? Consider this fact: A recent survey found that of the 20,000 richest men in China, more than 95% were directly related to Communist party officials. Where would you place your bet?


William Nobrega is president and founder of the Conrad Group, an emerging-market strategic planning and M&A facilitation firm based in Miami. He has more than 10 years experience in this field and is widely credited for initiating global business models in emerging geographies including Brazil, India, and China. He is co-author of the recently published book, Riding the Indian Tiger: Understanding India, the World's Fastest Growing Market.
 
Doing nothing ...

What the hell is going on ....


Criticizing everything .. and doing nothing to help ...

Khud toh chhod -2 ker bhaag gaye ... ub kuch help nahin ker sakte toh why the hell criticizing everything and anything ....


Bhai moderators se anurodh hai ... ki iss thread ko band ker dein ... Bohat bhunda chho aawai hai tadkai -2 yoh padhkai kimmai or ulta seedha lakadaiga moonh tai ... na toh kripya karkai kuch raasta batao ki main jatland per na aaun .. I really mean it !!
 
What the hell is going on ....


Criticizing everything .. and doing nothing to help ...

Khud toh chhod -2 ker bhaag gaye ... ub kuch help nahin ker sakte toh why the hell criticizing everything and anything ....


Bhai moderators se anurodh hai ... ki iss thread ko band ker dein ... Bohat bhunda chho aawai hai tadkai -2 yoh padhkai kimmai or ulta seedha lakadaiga moonh tai ... na toh kripya karkai kuch raasta batao ki main jatland per na aaun .. I really mean it !!

thand rakh thand..ankh band kar aur ek glass pani peele..aur pher thodi dair beharan ne ghoom aa sab sehi ho jayega..
 
Bhai Dreamer ... come outta ur dreams and welcome to real world!! ...err Real India! ;) dude, truth always hurts n tastes bitter! :)

We're doing positive criticism here, as I said earlier that one should be realistic as well loyal to his country!

Aur bhai tanne itna hi chho aawe se yo thread pad ke to pada hi mat na kar mere yaar ... its that simple! ... aur agar datta na jaave hai tere te to fer Baraf chaab le .. thand pad jaagi, believe me! :D:p

Why to lock this thread, if someone is figuring out the very issues ... why u getting frustrated, come on be a sport dont be a escapist! :)


Rock on
Jit



What the hell is going on ....


Criticizing everything .. and doing nothing to help ...

Khud toh chhod -2 ker bhaag gaye ... ub kuch help nahin ker sakte toh why the hell criticizing everything and anything ....


Bhai moderators se anurodh hai ... ki iss thread ko band ker dein ... Bohat bhunda chho aawai hai tadkai -2 yoh padhkai kimmai or ulta seedha lakadaiga moonh tai ... na toh kripya karkai kuch raasta batao ki main jatland per na aaun .. I really mean it !!
 
Bhai Dreamer ... come outta ur dreams and welcome to real world!! ...err Real India! ;) dude, truth always hurts n tastes bitter! :)

We're doing positive criticism here, as I said earlier that one should be realistic as well loyal to his country!

Aur bhai tanne itna hi chho aawe se yo thread pad ke to pada hi mat na kar mere yaar ... its that simple! ... aur agar datta na jaave hai tere te to fer Baraf chaab le .. thand pad jaagi, believe me! :D:p

Why to lock this thread, if someone is figuring out the very issues ... why u getting frustrated, come on be a sport dont be a escapist! :)



Rock on
Jit


Yes..... Mr. Jeet .... u r quiet right.....that this thread will awake ppl...and let them know what is real Indai....

but just doing criticism......anyone can't change any kind of condition of Indai.....so I feel.......besides this criticism...one should do some work on this so called criticism as well....n why dont u be initiative.....
 
thanx for the suggestion Ms Anu ji .. :)

Well, positive criticism is necessary to figure out the various issues, n yeah I agree that one must do something better to solve the very issues!

Btw, in fact its not that hard ... just be a more responsible citizen & hv some civic sense and practice ur duties then rights!! I beleieve thats more then enough for now n fyi am already improving myself hence improving India! :)

But, tell me how many Indians think n work this way?? ... less then .001%, so chances r nil to see improved India in near future!!,...

Thanks!


Rock on
Jit


Yes..... Mr. Jeet .... u r quiet right.....that this thread will awake ppl...and let them know what is real Indai....

but just doing criticism......anyone can't change any kind of condition of Indai.....so I feel.......besides this criticism...one should do some work on this so called criticism as well....n why dont u be initiative.....
 
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Yes..... Mr. Jeet .... u r quiet right.....that this thread will awake ppl...and let them know what is real Indai....

but just doing criticism......anyone can't change any kind of condition of Indai....so I feel.......besides this criticism...one should do some work on this so called criticism as well....n why dont u be initiative.....
aanhey, kunnse dess ka jikraa kar ri se yhaade?
tere naam me Chhikara ka Hichkara bana du te kissaa ak rahve? :rock
 
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