Jats making history by good deeds

very true

ygulia said:
These are purely my personal views and any one may agree or disagree.
a) Jats are not only physically strong but they are mentally strong as well. They believe that they are capable enough to survive at their own.<O:p
b) They do not accept other person of their own community as their leader easily. Everyone tries to lead and they fight among themselves on trivial matters and eventually whoever intervenes from outside becomes their leader.<O:p
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thanks
very true .
most of us know the problem.
but what is way forward to come out catch 22
 
ygulia said:
These are purely my personal views and any one may agree or disagree.
a) Jats are not only physically strong but they are mentally strong as well. They believe that they are capable enough to survive at their own.<O:p
b) They do not accept other person of their own community as their leader easily. Everyone tries to lead and they fight among themselves on trivial matters and eventually whoever intervenes from outside becomes their leader.<O:p
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Very true Yoginder .

It 's a God gift to this community.
 
ranjitjat said:
thanks
very true .
most of us know the problem.
but what is way forward to come out catch 22
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Sir, you asked me the question what is the way forward.
I am sorry that I do not have any good answer at this stage.
If I came accross any good step in this direction then I will share with you.
Thanks and regards.
 
ye community duniyan ki ruler ban ne ka theka le rahi hai, aur is ke khud ke ghar me sindh me jahan ka krishn tha ek brahmanabad ka dahir inhen kutte le kar chalne pe mazboor karta hai? aaa pagdi/turrah koni bandhan de o jattan nne.. ek bania punjab me inhen ghulam bana leta hai...ek rajput jo khali mohammad bin quasim ke bad peda hota hai inhen rajastahn ka CM nahin ban ne deta hai..
 
manne kuchh isszhya laage se ukk in jattyann nne ST me pel denya chahiye. jis ki mati itni mari gayi hai ki vo khud b khud ghulam ho jata hai apni hi majority me minority ka..

is tte badda aadi manav ape man tte me ne kadi duniyan me koni de khya...
 
ranjitjat said:
thanks
very true .
most of us know the problem.
but what is way forward to come out catch 22
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jats must agitate for ST status, itihas gawah hai, jat jaisa murkh is dunyan me koi nahin hua hai.. aur aaj bhi jo jat reservation ko oppose kar raha hai vo ....
 
aaj ki taareekh me jo jat reservation pe jat ko burgala raha hai is site pe ya to
1. vo nakli jat hai
2. ya phir kisi bhi reason se non-jat se bika hua hai
3. ya phir vo vahi jat hai ki jub suraj chand rahega Jat baoli ... rahega..

ek animal farm likhi george orwell nne. noble prize fetch kiya.. us book ne.. russia me bann tha kke lya diya is book ke upper..

udde nne ek boxer naam ka ghoda (horse) hoya karta.. lastly he was also sold to the butchers...

o, her baat nue kahya karta ukk I'll work harder...

ekk chhotu ram ji the is kaum me aa nne ekk chamatkar kar ke dikhya tha ukk jo jat apni hi majority me kute pite the baaaniyon se punjab uu nne thoda upper thyaya tha...jat us ki aaj taayeen taali peeten ssen....but he could not spread jats outside punjab... udde nne rajasthan me us nne haathi ppe koni baithan diya....

udde nne muzzoffer nagar ki gud mandi me us ki sawari neeth likdi thi...

aur ek surajmal le de kye khali jat land bhi unite koni kar paya...o.. khali sapne lete phira ukk ravi se yamuna tak in jaton ko unite karunga... ganga tak ke jaton tuk bhi us ki soch nahin pahunch payee... indus to phir dur ki baat thi...

lastly even in moghul empire the status of Jat/zat was that of paidal sipahi in their own land...

aurangzeb accorded the the status of 5000 zats/jats etc to various jats/sikh/maratha revolutionaries...

jo jat is sub se bade samooh ko indo-european ka darza de gaya, world over, for the last 10000 yrs, vo jat rsvn nne koni samjhe is ppe tte bhai ji kum te kum meri chhati tte koni thuke:rock
 
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thanks-Anrtish

Dear Narender-Anrtish and Snandal.
thank you for your view and information.

Jatoo mae unity hoti tao BC 1999
mae hi sare India ky jats ko mil jana tha
Jhhuthi- legs pulling nahi action chahiye
ak gahari bhed aur unity ki bat kahta hun.


http://www.jatland.com/home/Ghasi_Ram_Verma

Ex-CM Ch. Hukam Singh visited our house on 20 April 2008.
We talk about Jat resevation and problem of our community.
He accepted Gurnam Singh commission report in
Haryana when he was CM forjats reservation.
But Bhajan lal rejected it when he was CM in 1992-93
DR. GhasiRam Verma and family visit our house in Lexington
KY. USA. We discussed Jat reservation, Education and job.
He now visiting India and I requested him remind Dr. Pilaniya
about Haryana jat reservation problem.
DR. Gyan Parkash Pilaniya injured in car accident
during Jat Reservation movement in Rajasthan.
He is now in wheel chair and serving the community.
He supported my reservation resolution for Haryana
In Delhi Jat conference in front of CM. Haryana
CH. Bupender Singh Hooda on 13 March 2005.
People of Haryana are now united and we will get our
Rightful demand before election i n haryana.
Prof. Chhatarpal MLA and many other politicians supporting.
28 Jat mahasabhas are working together united as a team.
DR Ghasiram Verma- DR Pilaniya and team
aur jo jatoo ky top brain Think tank HC ny 1999
Sanghariya mae Aaraksan ka antim
fasla kiya- I was part of that team.
Hamari London- AJA USA ki Jatsabha ny
1999 mae hi parastav pass kar diya tha.
6 April 2008 ko Bhadargarh-Ch.Chhotu Ram
Jat Dharamsala mae sare aam kahkar
Col. OP. Sindhu aur Ch Udey Singh Mann
sy kah kar parastav pass karwaya hae.
We are stand by you and the Kaum
ham tan -maan- dhan sy aapke sath han
baki koe chahe kuch bhi kahta rahe
Aaraksan ka Sanghrash chalta rahega.
We will win- right -just cause will win.
Vote bank Jindavad
JAY JAWAN- JAY
 
sindh (karachi), loot gaya, dilli loot gayee, eeb gurgaon, fbd, sonepat, ghaziabad, sub lootten lagg rye ssen dudeeji, i, hope marathas are one step ahead of jats,
 
ranjitjat said:
Dear Narender-Anrtish and Snandal.
thank you for your view and information.

Jatoo mae unity hoti tao BC 1999
mae hi sare India ky jats ko mil jana tha
Jhhuthi- legs pulling nahi action chahiye
ak gahari bhed aur unity ki bat kahta hun.


http://www.jatland.com/home/Ghasi_Ram_Verma

Ex-CM Ch. Hukam Singh visited our house on 20 April 2008.
We talk about Jat resevation and problem of our community.
He accepted Gurnam Singh commission report in
Haryana when he was CM forjats reservation.
But Bhajan lal rejected it when he was CM in 1992-93
DR. GhasiRam Verma and family visit our house in Lexington
KY. USA. We discussed Jat reservation, Education and job.
He now visiting India and I requested him remind Dr. Pilaniya
about Haryana jat reservation problem.
DR. Gyan Parkash Pilaniya injured in car accident
during Jat Reservation movement in Rajasthan.
He is now in wheel chair and serving the community.
He supported my reservation resolution for Haryana
In Delhi Jat conference in front of CM. Haryana
CH. Bupender Singh Hooda on 13 March 2005.
People of Haryana are now united and we will get our
Rightful demand before election i n haryana.
Prof. Chhatarpal MLA and many other politicians supporting.
28 Jat mahasabhas are working together united as a team.
DR Ghasiram Verma- DR Pilaniya and team
aur jo jatoo ky top brain Think tank HC ny 1999
Sanghariya mae Aaraksan ka antim
fasla kiya- I was part of that team.
Hamari London- AJA USA ki Jatsabha ny
1999 mae hi parastav pass kar diya tha.
6 April 2008 ko Bhadargarh-Ch.Chhotu Ram
Jat Dharamsala mae sare aam kahkar
Col. OP. Sindhu aur Ch Udey Singh Mann
sy kah kar parastav pass karwaya hae.
We are stand by you and the Kaum
ham tan -maan- dhan sy aapke sath han
baki koe chahe kuch bhi kahta rahe
Aaraksan ka Sanghrash chalta rahega.
We will win- right -just cause will win.
Vote bank Jindavad
JAY JAWAN- JAY
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oh hoye what a beautiful sacrifical reply....

dudiji amar rahe...

from zero battle of panipat means (kurukshetra) means mahabharat...

to first ...

second ...

and third...


fourth is going on till today what jats are witnessing in their vicinity...

but result is same I say with heavy heart... that our ancestors were no doubt prudent and brave but we are the silent spectators at least for the last 1500 years....

dudiji ... please advise these jats to make a seperate state like uttarakhand, ....


please advise them to view with wisdom... whats happening around them...
 
ranjitjat said:
Dear Narender-Anrtish and Snandal.
thank you for your view and information.

Jatoo mae unity hoti tao BC 1999
mae hi sare India ky jats ko mil jana tha
Jhhuthi- legs pulling nahi action chahiye
ak gahari bhed aur unity ki bat kahta hun.


http://www.jatland.com/home/Ghasi_Ram_Verma

Ex-CM Ch. Hukam Singh visited our house on 20 April 2008.
We talk about Jat resevation and problem of our community.
He accepted Gurnam Singh commission report in
Haryana when he was CM forjats reservation.
But Bhajan lal rejected it when he was CM in 1992-93
DR. GhasiRam Verma and family visit our house in Lexington
KY. USA. We discussed Jat reservation, Education and job.
He now visiting India and I requested him remind Dr. Pilaniya
about Haryana jat reservation problem.
DR. Gyan Parkash Pilaniya injured in car accident
during Jat Reservation movement in Rajasthan.
He is now in wheel chair and serving the community.
He supported my reservation resolution for Haryana
In Delhi Jat conference in front of CM. Haryana
CH. Bupender Singh Hooda on 13 March 2005.
People of Haryana are now united and we will get our
Rightful demand before election i n haryana.
Prof. Chhatarpal MLA and many other politicians supporting.
28 Jat mahasabhas are working together united as a team.
DR Ghasiram Verma- DR Pilaniya and team
aur jo jatoo ky top brain Think tank HC ny 1999
Sanghariya mae Aaraksan ka antim
fasla kiya- I was part of that team.
Hamari London- AJA USA ki Jatsabha ny
1999 mae hi parastav pass kar diya tha.
6 April 2008 ko Bhadargarh-Ch.Chhotu Ram
Jat Dharamsala mae sare aam kahkar
Col. OP. Sindhu aur Ch Udey Singh Mann
sy kah kar parastav pass karwaya hae.
We are stand by you and the Kaum
ham tan -maan- dhan sy aapke sath han
baki koe chahe kuch bhi kahta rahe
Aaraksan ka Sanghrash chalta rahega.
We will win- right -just cause will win.
Vote bank Jindavad
JAY JAWAN- JAY
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Dudee Uncle

I am not a great supporter of reservation because Jats in Haryana are very well shaped now as in comparison to back in 80s or 90s. But i am not opposing if Haryana jats gets it. But the question is even if we get 5% (i m sure if we will get we are not going to get more than this) reservation than what difference it will create but the adverse effect will be that than gujjars and ahirs will also demand and may be later on Punjabi.
I think we are now in 21st century and we shuld come out from reservation and start looking towards industrialisation of haryana and try to get as many as Jat enterpreneurs we can have and than Jat enterpreneurs can provide jobs to fellow Jats. Well i dont know how far u people are in ur movement but definitely we shuld start looking for new and innovative demands in front of govt. so that Jats of haryana can do better.
If u arer not agree u are most welcome to be disagree.

Abhimanyu Phougat
 
I hope we are discussing in blue
 
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there are earlier threads on this issue..of reservation
 
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whenever this issue is raised there should be some arrangement to link this discussion with earlier discussions....
 
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Abhimanyuji Ahir and Gujjars of Haryana are already in reservation.
 
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they are flying the helicopters at Faridabad and Gurgaon...
 
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snandal1 said:
Abhimanyuji Ahir and Gujjars of Haryana are already in reservation.
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hmm bhai fir toh ek kaam ho sakta hai kee bahaman aur punjabiyon ko aarakshan de do aur baaki general mein mere khyaal te majority jaaton kee bach jayegi aur agar general mein fir 30% seat bhee bacj jyaangee toh jats will be in win-win situation.

Abhimanyu Phougat
 
positivelook said:
hmm bhai fir toh ek kaam ho sakta hai kee bahaman aur punjabiyon ko aarakshan de do aur baaki general mein mere khyaal te majority jaaton kee bach jayegi aur agar general mein fir 30% seat bhee bacj jyaangee toh jats will be in win-win situation.

Abhimanyu Phougat
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hahahahah ya hui nai baat chorre !
 
snandal1 said:
oh hoye what a beautiful sacrifical reply....

dudiji amar rahe...

from zero battle of panipat means (kurukshetra) means mahabharat...

to first ...

second ...

and third...


fourth is going on till today what jats are witnessing in their vicinity...

but result is same I say with heavy heart... that our ancestors were no doubt prudent and brave but we are the silent spectators at least for the last 1500 years....

dudiji ... please advise these jats to make a seperate state like uttarakhand, ....


please advise them to view with wisdom... whats happening around them...
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what a novel and genius idea , jats should get 100% reservation in jatkhand pradesh ,
visionory like this are living example of jat chanakya ,jats should take benifite of such philosphors.
 
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