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[sunitahooda]

Neelam when we use 'DID' then we must use first form of the verb, e.g. -
1. I didn't go there. instead of-
I didn't went there.

2. I didn't meet her. instead of-
I didn't met her.

This trend has been going on for years now to use 2nd or 3rd form of verb with Did. A little awareness is needed.

Right, this punctuation mark was missing and effecting the meaning of the sentence.

But, about this space between along and with....I don't feel there is any hard and fast rule for that....so please make it more clear to me

Also having one more doubt....

I was writing to friends about my result in the manner....

I didn't qualified 'that' (the test)

but Devender corrected me by telling it should be like....

I didn't qualify that

So, please express your opinions on the same

 

[dreamer]

Past Indefinite Tense ki class thi yah !!

Neelam when we use 'DID' then we must use first form of the verb, e.g. -
1. I didn't go there. instead of-
I didn't went there.

2. I didn't meet her. instead of-
I didn't met her.

This trend has been going on for years now to use 2nd or 3rd form of verb with Did. A little awareness is needed.

Hai na madam ji

 

[dreamer]

dost galat taage mai chep diya Shayad

I agree with Neelamji regarding what sex education actually is but incorporating it as a subject in schools is controversial.A person learns about such things with age. Given our social fabric it is not easy to discuss such a sensitive issue with schoolchildren, but the need of hour is to inculcate the basic values in the growing children, preserving their innocence .But at the same time parents and teachers should address their problems and curiosity about such things so that they can know about their limits.

Check again

 

[rschhillar]

to some limits it can be said ok

and i thought it like.... I'm also a member of JatLand, a place to share, comprehend, learn and grow within the community alongwith a great feeling of enjoyment.

how's this one....i mean does it stand upto the mark.....or it needrefinement?...or its totally different that what rinku asked about connotation?

it 'needs'....

 

[dkumars]

it 'needs'....

No Rajinder ji what Neelam has written is correct because she is asking a question there so it need is correct as per me.

 

[sannand]

A correction !

DK bhai,

In my knowledge, neither of you is correct.

One thing : It is sheer Indianism when an interrogative sentence is formed with " An assertive sentence + question mark (?)".
e.g. : It need refinement ?

If Neelam intended to ask a question, it should have been :
"Does it need refinement ? "

" It needs refinement ? ", can be considered true if one is face to face with someone, so that the listener can understand from his/her TONE of speech that a question is being asked, though it is still an incorrect form of asking questions !

No Rajinder ji what Neelam has written is correct because she is asking a question there so it need is correct as per me.

 

[dkumars]

to some limits it can be said ok

and i thought it like.... I'm also a member of JatLand, a place to share, comprehend, learn and grow within the community alongwith a great feeling of enjoyment.

how's this one....i mean does it stand upto the mark.....or it need refinement?...or its totally different that what rinku asked about connotation?

DK bhai,

In my knowledge, neither of you is correct.

One thing : It is sheer Indianism when an interrogative sentence is formed with " An assertive sentence + question mark (?)".
e.g. : It need refinement ?

If Neelam intended to ask a question, it should have been :
"Does it need refinement ? "

" It needs refinement ? ", can be considered true if one is face to face with someone, so that the listener can understand from his/her TONE of speech that a question is being asked, though it is still an incorrect form of asking questions !

Thanks Sanjeev for ur input but let me try to convince u on this.
The sentence she formed is "does it stand upto the mark.....or it need refinement?" Once again have a look Sanjeev. I feel she has used does also and with a question mark which are symbolized as interogative. Although, the dots before 'or' are not required. Although, i do not appreciate such kind of usage rather does culd have been placed before or also.

I am again doubtful with ur sentence also which goes like this "In my knowledge, neither of you is correct." I am not sure whether it shud be "is" or "are". I feel it shud be "are" here as u are using it for you. Others please help on this.

Waise, thanks for ur kind suggestion. The thread is goin in right direction, gud to see that.

 

[sannand]

Hi DK !

First of all, Diwali wishes to you and your family !

Part-I
When we separate two opposite possibilities with an "or" , then both of 'em must be written in their complete sense. In the above example, if first interrogation started with 'Does' (which is correct), then the other should also start with "Does". Because, what is written after "or", will have to represent its stand alone meaning.

Part-II
In regards to, "In my knowledge, neither of you is correct."
I have used 'is' for 'neither of you' which is always singular. Here the subject is not 'you', but is 'neither of you'.

Let's see another sentence :
Neither of them is intelligent. If we translate it in Hindi, it will become more clear.

" Unmein se koi bhi hoshiyaar nahi hai | ". So, the subject here is 'neither of them', but not 'them'.

 

[dkumars]

First of all, Diwali wishes to you and your family !

Part-I
When we separate two opposite possibilities with an "or" , then both of 'em must be written in their complete sense. In the above example, if first interrogation started with 'Does' (which is correct), then the other should also start with "Does". Because, what is written after "or", will have to represent its stand alone meaning.

Part-II
In regards to, "In my knowledge, neither of you is correct."
I have used 'is' for 'neither of you' which is always singular. Here the subject is not 'you', but is 'neither of you'.

Let's see another sentence :
Neither of them is intelligent. If we translate it in Hindi, it will become more clear.

" Unmein se koi bhi hoshiyaar nahi hai | ". So, the subject here is 'neither of them', but not 'them'.

Thanks Sanjeev for the correction and sweet wishes. I have corrected myself on this but still i need other's opinion just to cross check.
Have a blast on diwali :rock

 

[sanjeev_balyan]

Thanks Sanjeev for the correction and sweet wishes. I have corrected myself on this but still i need other's opinion just to cross check.
Have a blast on diwali :rock

Happy Diwali to all
Ya DK , Nandal is 100% correct here. normally we avoid pure introgative sentence, while speaking informally. have a look

Why--(pause) you have not informed --- so & so?
You are attanding the party?

but afermative sentence should be correct. Neelam used " need " it should be "needs". and here at JL (specaily at forum) we write directly, whatever we suppose to speak.
I belieive, this is not incorrect. Correct me if i m wrong.

 

[dkumars]

Happy Diwali to all
Ya DK , Nandal is 100% correct here. normally we avoid pure introgative sentence, while speaking informally. have a look

Why--(pause) you have not informed --- so & so?
You are attanding the party?

but afermative sentence should be correct. Neelam used " need " it should be "needs". and here at JL (specaily at forum) we write directly, whatever we suppose to speak.
I belieive, this is not incorrect. Correct me if i m wrong.

Thanks bhai for the correction. After seeing Sanjeev's explanation i also felt that i was wrong there and many thanks to him for the correction.

But regarding such sentences like "You are attanding the party?" I say it is wrong. There shud not be a question mark or it shud start with 'are'. But generally we do use such sentences for asking question but not alone ... generally we append some words like

You are attanding the party... right?
or
You are attanding the party... correct?
or
You are attanding the party... isn't it?
or
You are attanding the party... is it?

We generally use such kind of sentences depending upon the situation.
I feel this is sometimes ok while speaking but shud not include that while writing. There are facial expressions also which ask the question while speaking which u cant show while writing.

Rest u both are correct and i have learnt a new thing. Thanks to both of u

 

[choudharyneelam]

Neelam when we use 'DID' then we must use first form of the verb, e.g. -
1. I didn't go there. instead of-
I didn't went there.

2. I didn't meet her. instead of-
I didn't met her.

This trend has been going on for years now to use 2nd or 3rd form of verb with Did. A little awareness is needed.

Ok friend!

Thanks for the clarification

 

[choudharyneelam]

Sanjeev is totally correct

and so is the thought of Sanjeev Balyan

 

[pdpbeniwal]

"If someone try to impress u, it means...that 'someone' is already impressed by you"


Neelam ji......I haven't gone through the thread deeply.....i just saw your quote and i liked it very much....it's absolutely true...but i doubt on its grammatical correctness...the only thing which i think is wrong is that instead of 'try' 'tries' should have been used.....so finally it will look like.......
"If someone tries to impress u, it means...that 'someone' is already impressed by you"

 

[sannand]

Spellings !

One suggestion to all Jatlanders !

Try to avoid any spelling mistakes. You will not be noticed in the company of aloofs, but will never be spared among knowledgeables & alert.

Most handy thing to get the spellings right is to know the phonetics well. That way, you can spell some words right, even if you haven't come across the words before. Hope everyone remembers those "Spelling Bee" competitions being telecasted on Television (ESPN), where participants answer totally based on their phonetics' knowledge.

Another thing is, read as much as you can. This way, one remembers more and more words correctly.

 

[dkumars]

I have one more simple idea to utilize the thread. What if we post few difficult words with its meaning daily and can start sharing its usage and related things. Idioms, proverb can also be used.
We shall just add 2-4 words a day and try to learn its usage. The ones who already knows can correct others if they are wrong. Here, I start with a few words which i find gud...

fathom (UNDERSTAND) verb [T]
1 to discover the meaning of something:
Ex: For years people have been trying to fathom (out) the mysteries of the whale's song.

2 to understand someone or why someone acts as they do:
Ex: I can't fathom her at all.

lure noun
1 [C usually singular] the quality or power that something or someone has that makes them attractive:
Ex: the lure of fame/power/money

2 [C] an artificial insect or other small animal which is put on the end of a fishing line to attract fish

lure verb [T]
to persuade someone to do something or go somewhere by offering them something exciting:
Ex: She was lured into the job by the offer of a high salary.
Ex: He had lured his victim to a deserted house.
EX: Supermarket chains try to lure customers with price discounts.


Others also share but not a huge list in a day. sharing a few words daily can be remembered easily rather than mugging a big list.

 

[brahmtewatia]

"If someone try to impress u, it means...that 'someone' is already impressed by you"

Neelam ji......I haven't gone through the thread deeply.....i just saw your quote and i liked it very much....it's absolutely true...but i doubt on its grammatical correctness...the only thing which i think is wrong is that instead of 'try' 'tries' should have been used.....so finally it will look like.......
"If someone tries to impress u, it means...that 'someone' is already impressed by you"

i feel that the usage of both "try" as well as "tries" is correct in the signatures.

1. when "try/tries" is used as a verb(?) (here singular) the sentence shud read: "if sum1 try to impress u, it means... that sum1 is already impressed by u".
2. when "try/tries" is used as a noun(?) (here plural) the sentence shud read: "if sum1 tries to impress u, it means... that sum1 is already impressed by u".

In both the cases the word "try" is used as an attemt or effort. sum1 can correct me if i'm wrong.

my perception: i guess "to impress" sum1 should be a continuous process... can i suggest :

"if sum1 is trying to impress u, it means... tht sum1 is already impressed by u" wotsay on this ?

 

[dkumars]

i feel that the usage of both "try" as well as "tries" is correct in the signatures.

1. when "try/tries" is used as a verb(?) (here singular) the sentence shud read: "if sum1 try to impress u, it means... that sum1 is already impressed by u".
2. when "try/tries" is used as a noun(?) (here plural) the sentence shud read: "if sum1 tries to impress u, it means... that sum1 is already impressed by u".

In both the cases the word "try" is used as an attemt or effort. sum1 can correct me if i'm wrong.

my perception: i guess "to impress" sum1 should be a continuous process... can i suggest :

"if sum1 is trying to impress u, it means... tht sum1 is already impressed by u" wotsay on this ?

Although, I am not so proficient in english but still i feel it shud be tries. Here, my point is "could try be a noun in such a situation"? And i think u have interchanged its usage, I feel as a verb it should be tries and as a noun it should be try. But still here it can not be a noun. Here, try is specifically filling place of a verb.

Using trying --- I feel both are correct. Same massage can be conveyed in many ways.

i feel that the usage of both "try" as well as "tries" is correct in the signatures ---------- I doubt this sentence of yours whether its grammatically correct. Such kind of is/are usage confuse me a lot. In past also Sanjeev correct me and again a similar doubt. I feel here the helping verb shud be 'are' instead of 'is'.

I am doubtful on my explanation so i request others to correct me on this in case I am wrong.

 

[brahmtewatia]

Although, I am not so proficient in english but still i feel it shud be tries. Here, my point is could try be a noun in such a situation ? And i think u have interchanged its usage, I feel as a verb it should be tries and as a noun it should be try. But still here it can not be a noun. Here, try is specifically filling place of a verb.

Using trying --- I feel both are correct. Same massage can be conveyed in many ways.

i feel that the usage of both "try" as well as "tries" is correct in the signatures ---------- I doubt this sentence of yours whether its grammatically correct. Such kind of is/are usage confuse me a lot. In past also Sanjeev correct me and again a similar doubt. I feel here the helping verb shud be 'are' instead of 'is'.

DK now we are mixed on 2 issues:

Issue 1. my explanation in previous post puts a question mark verb(?) or noun(?) since i myself wasn't sure... however chk the explanation out here:

try (tr

)v. tried (tr

d), try·ing, tries (tr

z)
v.tr.1. To make an effort to do or accomplish (something); attempt: tried to ski.
2. To taste, sample, or otherwise test in order to determine strength, effect, worth, or desirability: Try this casserole. Try the door.
3. Law a. To examine or hear (evidence or a case) by judicial process.
b. To put (an accused person) on trial.

4. To subject to great strain or hardship; tax: The last steep ascent tried my every muscle.
5. To melt (lard, for example) to separate out impurities; render.
6. To smooth, fit, or align accurately.

v.intr. To make an effort; strive.

n. pl. tries (tr

z) 1. An attempt; an effort.
2. Sports In Rugby, an act of advancing the ball past the opponent's goal line and grounding it there for a score of three points.

Phrasal Verbs: try on1. To don (a garment) to test its fit.
2. To test or use experimentally.

try out1. To undergo a competitive qualifying test, as for a job or athletic team.
2. To test or use experimentally.

Idiom: try (one's) hand To attempt to do something for the first time: I tried my hand at skiing.

Issue 2. My take: if you take the usage as singular i.e "try" or "tries" it shud be IS. if you take the usage as plural i.e "try" and "tries" it shud be ARE... thats what i feel, i may be wrong. i hav used "try" and "tries" to be interpreted seperately as singular... hence used IS

 

[dkumars]

DK now we are mixed on 2 issues:

Issue 1. my explanation in previous post puts a question mark verb(?) or noun(?) since i myself wasn't sure... however chk the explanation out here:
Issue 2. My take: if you take the usage as singular i.e "try" or "tries" it shud be IS. if you take the usage as plural i.e "try" and "tries" it shud be ARE... thats what i feel, i may be wrong. i hav used "try" and "tries" to be interpreted seperately as singular... hence used IS

Bhai ji thanks for the explanation... but my point is ... the helping verb is used for both not for one try.
i feel that the usage of both "try" as well as "tries" is correct in the signatures.
Like ... Both of you are correct.
Both Ram and Shyam are intelligent.
Please correct me on this. Others also please participate.
Also, add something related to vocabulary if u find something gud as I asked in the first post of the page.