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हम मौसमी देशभक्त हैं -
हम अपने चुने हुए नेताओ को दोष देकर पल्ला झाड़ने की फिराक में रहते हैं -
यहाँ जाट और गैर जाट में कोई भी अन्तर प्रतीत नही होता -
------------------ कठोर किंतु सत्य !
समर, माफ़ कीजियेगा मै आपके लेखन की प्रशंशा नही करुँगी क्योंकि यहाँ लोगो के मुखारवृंद से प्रशंसा सुनना उतना सुखदायी नही होगा जितना की उनके द्बारा कुछ सुझाव एवं अर्थपूर्ण टिप्पणियाँ सुनना होता.
आक्रोश के नाम पर केवल मुट्ठी भर लोगो की प्रतिक्रियाए आई हैं और उनमे से अधिकतर केवल लेखन की शैली की प्रशंषा करती हैं. अत्यंत खेद हुआ देखकर की संभवतया अधिकतर लोगो को इस विषय पर पर्तिक्रिया देना तक वांछनीय नही लगा. किंचित ही ये शब्दों कही ढांचा मातृ था उनके लिए - एक नीरस निबंध !
वे शायद इन शब्दों के पैरो तले दबे आक्रोश के लाचार मुख को नही देख पाये - वो आक्रोश जो कुछ दिन पहले हर हिन्दुस्तानी के हृदय एवं होंठो पे था, वो आक्रोश जिसने उन्हें एक बार फ़िर से अनुभव करवाया था की वो कितने कमजोर हैं, कई आँखे नम हुई थी और कई जल रही थी की काश मै आज ही उस पड़ोसी देश को मिटा दूं जिसने समय समय पर पड़ोसी होने की परिभाषा को कलंकित किया है.
कहाँ है आज वो लोग जिनके सीने को इस मानवता के दर्द ने बेन्ध दिया था ?
जो कुछ करना चाहते थे परन्तु नही कर पाये वो ग़लत नही हैं, ग़लत तब होंगे जब वो इस आग की लपट को अकर्मण्यता के ठंडे पानी से बुझा देंगे .....
आम आदमी दबा होता है अनेक कर्तव्यों के बोझ तले और ज्यादा कुछ नही कर सकता - इसमे से पहला कथन सत्य है परन्तु दूसरा असत्य है - वो कर सकता है. एक एक बूँद से सागर बनता है - ये कथन सुनने में साधारण लगता है परन्तु सोच के देखिये की अगर एक भारतीय एक ग्लास कम पानी प्रयोग करे तो कितने ग्लास पानी बचेगा ?
आप एक बुराई की जड़ को उखाडिये, संभवतया लाखों की संख्या में बुराई का नाश होने लगे ! अब आप कहेंगे की कोई दूसरी बुराई आ जायेगी फायदा क्या है - जवाब बस ये है की मनुष्य कार्य करता है परिणिति तक पहुँचने हेतु और हर परिणिति एक कार्य को जनम देती है, कार्य कभी पूर्ण नही होते परन्तु कार्यो प्रकार बदलते हैं. आप एक तबाह बस्ती की ईंटे चुनना पसंद करेंगे या बसे हुए शेहर में फूल लगाना ? मनुष्य को उत्पादक कार्य शोभा देते हैं!
आइये हम ये सोचना बंद कर दे की एक मेरे करने से क्या होगा या फ़िर मै ही क्यो ? आप जहाँ हैं वहां कुछ तो भला कार्य कीजिये या कम से कम बुराई से दूर रहिये - इच्छा आपकी है, अभी से नई शुरुवात करनी है धीरे धीरे या यूँ ही अंत की प्रतीक्षा कीजियेगा दूसरो पे दोषारोपण कर के ?
हम मौसमी देशभक्त हैं -
हम अपने चुने हुए नेताओ को दोष देकर पल्ला झाड़ने की फिराक में रहते हैं -
यहाँ जाट और गैर जाट में कोई भी अन्तर प्रतीत नही होता -
------------------ कठोर किंतु सत्य !
समर, माफ़ कीजियेगा मै आपके लेखन की प्रशंशा नही करुँगी क्योंकि यहाँ लोगो के मुखारवृंद से प्रशंसा सुनना उतना सुखदायी नही होगा जितना की उनके द्बारा कुछ सुझाव एवं अर्थपूर्ण टिप्पणियाँ सुनना होता.
आक्रोश के नाम पर केवल मुट्ठी भर लोगो की प्रतिक्रियाए आई हैं और उनमे से अधिकतर केवल लेखन की शैली की प्रशंषा करती हैं. अत्यंत खेद हुआ देखकर की संभवतया अधिकतर लोगो को इस विषय पर पर्तिक्रिया देना तक वांछनीय नही लगा. किंचित ही ये शब्दों कही ढांचा मातृ था उनके लिए - एक नीरस निबंध !
वे शायद इन शब्दों के पैरो तले दबे आक्रोश के लाचार मुख को नही देख पाये - वो आक्रोश जो कुछ दिन पहले हर हिन्दुस्तानी के हृदय एवं होंठो पे था, वो आक्रोश जिसने उन्हें एक बार फ़िर से अनुभव करवाया था की वो कितने कमजोर हैं, कई आँखे नम हुई थी और कई जल रही थी की काश मै आज ही उस पड़ोसी देश को मिटा दूं जिसने समय समय पर पड़ोसी होने की परिभाषा को कलंकित किया है.
कहाँ है आज वो लोग जिनके सीने को इस मानवता के दर्द ने बेन्ध दिया था ?
जो कुछ करना चाहते थे परन्तु नही कर पाये वो ग़लत नही हैं, ग़लत तब होंगे जब वो इस आग की लपट को अकर्मण्यता के ठंडे पानी से बुझा देंगे .....
आम आदमी दबा होता है अनेक कर्तव्यों के बोझ तले और ज्यादा कुछ नही कर सकता - इसमे से पहला कथन सत्य है परन्तु दूसरा असत्य है - वो कर सकता है. एक एक बूँद से सागर बनता है - ये कथन सुनने में साधारण लगता है परन्तु सोच के देखिये की अगर एक भारतीय एक ग्लास कम पानी प्रयोग करे तो कितने ग्लास पानी बचेगा ?
आप एक बुराई की जड़ को उखाडिये, संभवतया लाखों की संख्या में बुराई का नाश होने लगे ! अब आप कहेंगे की कोई दूसरी बुराई आ जायेगी फायदा क्या है - जवाब बस ये है की मनुष्य कार्य करता है परिणिति तक पहुँचने हेतु और हर परिणिति एक कार्य को जनम देती है, कार्य कभी पूर्ण नही होते परन्तु कार्यो प्रकार बदलते हैं. आप एक तबाह बस्ती की ईंटे चुनना पसंद करेंगे या बसे हुए शेहर में फूल लगाना ? मनुष्य को उत्पादक कार्य शोभा देते हैं!
आइये हम ये सोचना बंद कर दे की एक मेरे करने से क्या होगा या फ़िर मै ही क्यो ? आप जहाँ हैं वहां कुछ तो भला कार्य कीजिये या कम से कम बुराई से दूर रहिये - इच्छा आपकी है, अभी से नई शुरुवात करनी है धीरे धीरे या यूँ ही अंत की प्रतीक्षा कीजियेगा दूसरो पे दोषारोपण कर के ?
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mukeshkumar007
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mere to sehi maie ek baat samaj maie nai ayi ki yeh sari roz roz ek si ek si baat keh keh ke aap log karwana ke chahte hoo..
pura thread pada lakin phir wehi bate.. ek ne likha dusra aya wo bolta bhot achi baat kehi, tisra aya rajneetwo ko gali nikal ke gaya.. pher koi aya wo aur kuch keh gaya...
ho sake hai mera dimag kam chalta hoo isliye ho sake hai isme chipa hidden message na pale pade.. but sachi maie nue batawo ke kye karwana chawo ho aap log..
mere jise manas ne is thread ko padan ke baad ke karna chaiye actual maie.. ????? koi batayega... yaa phir yo bi roz ki tariya time pass hai
shyed aap log kehoge ki mujhe khud ka kaam sehi se karna cahiye..kartavye nibhana cahiye... right ? please batiyoo jaroor agar sehi maie mera jise ke liye kuch karan jisa message hai to... akhir kuch to fayeda hona cahiye is thread ko padan ka....
pura thread pada lakin phir wehi bate.. ek ne likha dusra aya wo bolta bhot achi baat kehi, tisra aya rajneetwo ko gali nikal ke gaya.. pher koi aya wo aur kuch keh gaya...
ho sake hai mera dimag kam chalta hoo isliye ho sake hai isme chipa hidden message na pale pade.. but sachi maie nue batawo ke kye karwana chawo ho aap log..
mere jise manas ne is thread ko padan ke baad ke karna chaiye actual maie.. ????? koi batayega... yaa phir yo bi roz ki tariya time pass hai
shyed aap log kehoge ki mujhe khud ka kaam sehi se karna cahiye..kartavye nibhana cahiye... right ? please batiyoo jaroor agar sehi maie mera jise ke liye kuch karan jisa message hai to... akhir kuch to fayeda hona cahiye is thread ko padan ka....
My dear members, if one feels that there is no use reading the inputs put forward by various members and thinks that every thing should be CONCLUDED at Jatland...even the election of US president than i feel we are in for a big disappointment.I for one find lot many good things in diverse views expressed by the people out here.We are part of the world...a tiny part and not the rulers of this planet and hence have to operate in those limitations...It is foolish to assume that all ills of this world will be taken care of by the mortals of Jatland.Let us not try to show the undesired frustrations for nothing.Read on and move on....even if one finds the things time pass.At least some people are scratching their heads to pen down their feelings. Do your bit in practical life and move on....every thing has positives if we have the brains to grasp it.God blesss all!
nishantrathi82
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Very well said Dev sir we seek for a other's point of views by discussing several issues it always gives a great feeling when we read different and great views of other members many time it comes as a knowledge for me.
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vivekdh
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fhir wohi kahani, ab nahi jaage to nash ho jaayega bla bla bla.....
muje bura laaga jo mumbai me hua per farq nahi pada,yahan jitne hain kissi ko nahi padda.jinka koi apna marra hai unko farq pada hai wo khoon ke aansu ro rahe hain.
koi kya ker legga....
kissi neta ko galli de legga, police ko nikamma bata degga or apni life me BG ho jayega.main bhi yahi kerta hu,bahut se log yahi kerte hain jaydater log yahi kerte hain.
muje bura laaga jo mumbai me hua per farq nahi pada,yahan jitne hain kissi ko nahi padda.jinka koi apna marra hai unko farq pada hai wo khoon ke aansu ro rahe hain.
koi kya ker legga....
kissi neta ko galli de legga, police ko nikamma bata degga or apni life me BG ho jayega.main bhi yahi kerta hu,bahut se log yahi kerte hain jaydater log yahi kerte hain.
poonamchaudhary
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Do you really think its possible? Even countries like US UK they want India to get busy with Pak so that they will continue with a big hold in ASIA. Did US looked for any other pressure or support when he started his activity against Afganistan?
Yes its possible..Pakistan is just another country on the political map. No country can afford to go on if its excommunicated from the international community. US provides a huge aid to Pakistan..such aids can be withhold if Pakistan doesnt correct its way. Things have changed today and US foreign policy is no more in grip of communist phobia as it used to be some years back. This is the reason why Indo-US relations have improved so much today. What impact can international pressure have on political matters is visible in the recent incident of ban on Jamat ul Dawa in Pakistan. It happened because of the hard stance adopted by US.
Agree but don't you think that we already investing a lot of money in security issue a big part of our budget is always kept for Safety and security every year, if 50% of that amount would be invested in some other areas will it not be fruitfull for our devlopment? But in these circumstances we have to do. Think if Pak would have not been here or will not be here in future what we can achieve with that huge amount.
Well spending and spending wisely are two very different things. In the recent Mumbai terror attacks the NSG commandos could not be taken to the site in time because the only aircraft to transport them was not available. See its never a wise thing to spend on weaponary instead of development but then we dont live in a utopian world. To keep ourselves safe, so that we can survive to develop and progress, we need to invest on and organise our defence properly. We need to first survive in order to progress.
Something can't be controled with such a huge Population and low literacy
rate.
China's population is much more than ours but still its far ahead of us giving us lessons on how to develop even with a huge population. There are countries with population much less and still they are not as developed.
Very difficult as you can see Samar rightly said people are in a deep sleep. People here in India doesn't have time they don't even stop to see a person who is dying on a road. People in India are suffering from the disease called lack of Awareness even if u r aware of things u don't want to take pain to fight against that because of any reason.
True ! People are in deep sleep but till when will they sleep? Some day they will rise up. Awareness can be brought and believe me its not that difficult. Apathatic attitude has to be changed and will change some day. I can understand the pessimism such incidents bring in us. We become hopeless and think that nothing can improve. But there always are possibilities for change !
But Poonam G all the points are valid and need to be consider for any improvement. But i m still in favour of destroying PAK.[/quote]
I can understand your anger Nishant...its natural to feel it. But wars bring only destruction and have much larger connotations than we can think in the moment of anger.
Yes its possible..Pakistan is just another country on the political map. No country can afford to go on if its excommunicated from the international community. US provides a huge aid to Pakistan..such aids can be withhold if Pakistan doesnt correct its way. Things have changed today and US foreign policy is no more in grip of communist phobia as it used to be some years back. This is the reason why Indo-US relations have improved so much today. What impact can international pressure have on political matters is visible in the recent incident of ban on Jamat ul Dawa in Pakistan. It happened because of the hard stance adopted by US.
Agree but don't you think that we already investing a lot of money in security issue a big part of our budget is always kept for Safety and security every year, if 50% of that amount would be invested in some other areas will it not be fruitfull for our devlopment? But in these circumstances we have to do. Think if Pak would have not been here or will not be here in future what we can achieve with that huge amount.
Well spending and spending wisely are two very different things. In the recent Mumbai terror attacks the NSG commandos could not be taken to the site in time because the only aircraft to transport them was not available. See its never a wise thing to spend on weaponary instead of development but then we dont live in a utopian world. To keep ourselves safe, so that we can survive to develop and progress, we need to invest on and organise our defence properly. We need to first survive in order to progress.
Something can't be controled with such a huge Population and low literacy
rate.
China's population is much more than ours but still its far ahead of us giving us lessons on how to develop even with a huge population. There are countries with population much less and still they are not as developed.
Very difficult as you can see Samar rightly said people are in a deep sleep. People here in India doesn't have time they don't even stop to see a person who is dying on a road. People in India are suffering from the disease called lack of Awareness even if u r aware of things u don't want to take pain to fight against that because of any reason.
True ! People are in deep sleep but till when will they sleep? Some day they will rise up. Awareness can be brought and believe me its not that difficult. Apathatic attitude has to be changed and will change some day. I can understand the pessimism such incidents bring in us. We become hopeless and think that nothing can improve. But there always are possibilities for change !
But Poonam G all the points are valid and need to be consider for any improvement. But i m still in favour of destroying PAK.[/quote]
I can understand your anger Nishant...its natural to feel it. But wars bring only destruction and have much larger connotations than we can think in the moment of anger.
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I can understand your anger Nishant...its natural to feel it. But wars bring only destruction and have much larger connotations than we can think in the moment of anger.[/QUOTE]
Poonam ji very balanced and sensible.Keep that flow on.
nishantrathi82
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But beleive me to get things better we have to face some more terrorist attacks. And i want and wish that no more terrorist attack on us pls. We don't want to fight with anyone leave us alone and let us live happily.
For me its always better to dominate rather than look for survival and its its purely my personal view.
Mam they could have done it because now they are able to get a good control over growing rate of population and i not seeing any improvement here in India. And about the line quoted in red then we do have countries like Somalia, afganistan where we will get worst terrorist conditions. So pls don't look at lower side see on high, see who is better than us and why? Where do we need change?
Yes we will awake some day but i afraid it will take a long. Awareness can be bought with quality education only. And Education can provided to a controled population.
Mam even i don't want the war but i m not able to see any other better solution and the solution u r providing is the same that we relying on from past 60 years.
mukeshkumar007
Active member
If u find entire India sleeping then I think u r also sleeping.. Aren’t u? showing ur immature anger doesn’t show that u r awaken or responsible.. let me tell u every Indian ( chai wala, majdoor, farmer, business man, profession and so called young one including u nd me )talks a lot and express their anger but this anger is limited to discussion only…immature & irresponsible
U talk about destroying Pakistan but have u ever imagined the amount of destruction it will bring to our own country, don’t forget that Pak is a nuclear power and when the question of existence will arise Pak will not hesitate to use the nuclear arsenal….
Man, get the priorities right, we need to get our own security system tightened and need to correct our political system so that we could play our cards well in international form to gain the diplomatic support.. nd fortunately there have been some positive development on this side
nishantrathi82
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poonamchaudhary
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Mam they could have done it because now they are able to get a good control over growing rate of population and i not seeing any improvement here in India. And about the line quoted in red then we do have countries like Somalia, afganistan where we will get worst terrorist conditions. So pls don't look at lower side see on high, see who is better than us and why? Where do we need change?
Well Nishant, they are controlling their population but still their population is more than ours. And if they can control their population and move ahead on the path of development than why cant we. So you see yourself that the conditions of countries like Afghanistan are bad irrespective of their low population. Besides its wrong to say that there is no improvement...improvement is definitly there though at a slower pace. I will give an example...
According to 1961 census - 40% males and only 15% females were literate.
Now look at 2001 census - 76% males are literate and 54% females are literate.
So improvement has been there and today India is considered as a force to reckon by the whole world.
Yes we will awake some day but i afraid it will take a long. Awareness can be bought with quality education only. And Education can provided to a controled population.
You are right..awareness can be brought with education. Education cannot be limited by a huge population base though it will require more effort. If population to be educated is more than the workforce too is more and there can be many people to volunteer in the task of educating illiterates.
Mam even i don't want the war but i m not able to see any other better solution and the solution u r providing is the same that we relying on from past 60 years.[/quote]
The solutions i have highlighted are known to all. The problem is not with these solutions rather the problem is that these solutions have not been implemented properly in the last 60 years.
Well Nishant, they are controlling their population but still their population is more than ours. And if they can control their population and move ahead on the path of development than why cant we. So you see yourself that the conditions of countries like Afghanistan are bad irrespective of their low population. Besides its wrong to say that there is no improvement...improvement is definitly there though at a slower pace. I will give an example...
According to 1961 census - 40% males and only 15% females were literate.
Now look at 2001 census - 76% males are literate and 54% females are literate.
So improvement has been there and today India is considered as a force to reckon by the whole world.
Yes we will awake some day but i afraid it will take a long. Awareness can be bought with quality education only. And Education can provided to a controled population.
You are right..awareness can be brought with education. Education cannot be limited by a huge population base though it will require more effort. If population to be educated is more than the workforce too is more and there can be many people to volunteer in the task of educating illiterates.
Mam even i don't want the war but i m not able to see any other better solution and the solution u r providing is the same that we relying on from past 60 years.
[/quote]The solutions i have highlighted are known to all. The problem is not with these solutions rather the problem is that these solutions have not been implemented properly in the last 60 years.
samarkadian
Active member
श्वेता,
आपने निसंदेह विचारो को झकझोर देने वाला ये लेख पुरंताया मुंबई हमले के सन्दर्भ में लिखा है.इसकी प्राथमिकता शायद बालबुद्धि के व्यक्ति शायद ही समझ पाए. ये एक खेद की बात है किंतु हताशा की नही. अगर इस आक्रोश को सिर्फ़ मुंबई हमले की नजरिये से देखे तो ये फिर से दोहरी मानसिकता का परिचायक होगा.ये एक रास्ट्रीय त्रासदी से बड़कर मानवीय त्रासदी है जिसका आकलन सिर्फ़ मृतको और घायलों की संख्या से करना एक सतही सोच की और संकेत करता है.त्रासदी के प्रभाव की व्यापकता का अंदाजा सिर्फ़ इस बात से लगाया जा सकता है की बुरहानपुर के एक विदालय के छात्रों को इस घटना से उबरने के लिए मनोवैज्ञानिक चिकित्सा दी जा रही है. कल के भारत का भविस्य सहमा हुआ सा स्कूल जाने से कतराता है क्यों की आतंक की तस्वीरे टेलिविज़न के मध्यम से उनके मानसिक पटल पैर अंकित हो चुकी हैं. इलेक्ट्रॉनिक मीडिया ने जिस अपरिपक्वता से इस पुरे प्रकरण का प्रसारण किया वो नो केवेल निंदनीय है बल्कि दंडनीय भी है.एक अन्य धागे में हम लोग अपने नेताओ को रेटिंग दे रहे हैं. उनमे से एक भी नेता ऐसा नही है जो पुरे जाट बहुल इलाके में कहीं से भी जीत पाये और पुरे देश में एक ऐसा नेता नही है जो सर्व्समती से कहीं से भी जीत पाए.यहाँ तक की एशिया में भी एक नेता हमारे देश को प्रस्तुत नही करता तो विशव स्टार की बात करना बड़ी हस्य्पसाद होगी. आधुनिक राजनीत की ये एक विडम्बना ही होगी की इसने राजकाज को दल गत विचारधारा से जीत लिया है. ऐसे में आज के नौनिहाल क्यों नही भयभीत होंगे?
निशांत ने इसके लिए पाक को जिम्मेदार ठहराया है , निसंदेह सच. किंतु शीग्र ही ये आरोप भारतीय मुसलमानों पैर लगने वाला है. पाकिस्तान एक इस्लामिक देश होने का भुगतान हमारे यहाँ का आम मुस्लमान करता है.मुंबई बोम्ब काण्ड में शामिल लोगो में मुसलमानों के साथ साथ मराठी और हिंदू लोग भी बराबरी के दोषी पाए गए हैं.भारिस्ताचार हमारे जीवन का अभिंग अंग बन चुका है.ये बुराई आज विष्फोटकओं की तस्करी और फिर बोम्ब धमाको को जनम देती है.दुश्मन पाक से ज्यादा और गहरा हमारी जड़ो में व्यापत भारिस्ताचार है.रिश्वत लेकर ख़रीदे गए बुल्लेत्प्रूफ़ जाक्केट ने कई होनहार एवं काबिल जवानों तथा अफसरों को लील दिया. ये आतंकवादियों को भीतरी प्रोत्साहन हमारी जड़ो में व्यापत भ्र्सिताचार ने दिया.आक्रोश को अगर सार्थक रूप से एक जनांदोलन का जमा पहनाया जाए तो थाईलैंड जैसे एक छोट्टे से देश की तरह भारत में भी क्रांति दूर नही. अगर ये आक्रोश सिर्फ़ मुंबई या इंडिया गेट में सभ्याय लोगो द्वारा मोमबत्ती जलने तक सिमित तराह गया तो जम्मू कश्मीर के तक़रीबन ६० हज़ार से ज्यादा लोगओं की आत्मा हमे कोशेगी क्यों वो भी भारत का अभिन्न अंग है और वहां के लोगो से ज्यादा आतंकवाद में किसी ने नही खोया है. यही हाल उत्तर -पूर्व राज्यों का है जहाँ एक अलग तरह का ही आतंकवाद ने लोगो की जाने ली है जिनमे सैनिक और असैनिक दोनों ही शामिल हैं.नुक्सान सिर्फ़ हमारा ही है. ऐसे हादसों को धरम से अलग हटकर देखना होगा. ऐसी सिथति में देश को फिर से एक सरदार पटेल जैसे लोह्पुरुष की आवसयाकता है जो रास्ट्रीय सतर पैर देश को एक धागे में पिरो सके.नौजवानों के पास मौका है की वो इस चुनौती को न जाने दे. न की अपने पैदाइशी टुच्चेपन की तरफ़ लौटते हुए इस सिथातिजन्य क्रोध को बेकार जाने दे.
आपने निसंदेह विचारो को झकझोर देने वाला ये लेख पुरंताया मुंबई हमले के सन्दर्भ में लिखा है.इसकी प्राथमिकता शायद बालबुद्धि के व्यक्ति शायद ही समझ पाए. ये एक खेद की बात है किंतु हताशा की नही. अगर इस आक्रोश को सिर्फ़ मुंबई हमले की नजरिये से देखे तो ये फिर से दोहरी मानसिकता का परिचायक होगा.ये एक रास्ट्रीय त्रासदी से बड़कर मानवीय त्रासदी है जिसका आकलन सिर्फ़ मृतको और घायलों की संख्या से करना एक सतही सोच की और संकेत करता है.त्रासदी के प्रभाव की व्यापकता का अंदाजा सिर्फ़ इस बात से लगाया जा सकता है की बुरहानपुर के एक विदालय के छात्रों को इस घटना से उबरने के लिए मनोवैज्ञानिक चिकित्सा दी जा रही है. कल के भारत का भविस्य सहमा हुआ सा स्कूल जाने से कतराता है क्यों की आतंक की तस्वीरे टेलिविज़न के मध्यम से उनके मानसिक पटल पैर अंकित हो चुकी हैं. इलेक्ट्रॉनिक मीडिया ने जिस अपरिपक्वता से इस पुरे प्रकरण का प्रसारण किया वो नो केवेल निंदनीय है बल्कि दंडनीय भी है.एक अन्य धागे में हम लोग अपने नेताओ को रेटिंग दे रहे हैं. उनमे से एक भी नेता ऐसा नही है जो पुरे जाट बहुल इलाके में कहीं से भी जीत पाये और पुरे देश में एक ऐसा नेता नही है जो सर्व्समती से कहीं से भी जीत पाए.यहाँ तक की एशिया में भी एक नेता हमारे देश को प्रस्तुत नही करता तो विशव स्टार की बात करना बड़ी हस्य्पसाद होगी. आधुनिक राजनीत की ये एक विडम्बना ही होगी की इसने राजकाज को दल गत विचारधारा से जीत लिया है. ऐसे में आज के नौनिहाल क्यों नही भयभीत होंगे?
निशांत ने इसके लिए पाक को जिम्मेदार ठहराया है , निसंदेह सच. किंतु शीग्र ही ये आरोप भारतीय मुसलमानों पैर लगने वाला है. पाकिस्तान एक इस्लामिक देश होने का भुगतान हमारे यहाँ का आम मुस्लमान करता है.मुंबई बोम्ब काण्ड में शामिल लोगो में मुसलमानों के साथ साथ मराठी और हिंदू लोग भी बराबरी के दोषी पाए गए हैं.भारिस्ताचार हमारे जीवन का अभिंग अंग बन चुका है.ये बुराई आज विष्फोटकओं की तस्करी और फिर बोम्ब धमाको को जनम देती है.दुश्मन पाक से ज्यादा और गहरा हमारी जड़ो में व्यापत भारिस्ताचार है.रिश्वत लेकर ख़रीदे गए बुल्लेत्प्रूफ़ जाक्केट ने कई होनहार एवं काबिल जवानों तथा अफसरों को लील दिया. ये आतंकवादियों को भीतरी प्रोत्साहन हमारी जड़ो में व्यापत भ्र्सिताचार ने दिया.आक्रोश को अगर सार्थक रूप से एक जनांदोलन का जमा पहनाया जाए तो थाईलैंड जैसे एक छोट्टे से देश की तरह भारत में भी क्रांति दूर नही. अगर ये आक्रोश सिर्फ़ मुंबई या इंडिया गेट में सभ्याय लोगो द्वारा मोमबत्ती जलने तक सिमित तराह गया तो जम्मू कश्मीर के तक़रीबन ६० हज़ार से ज्यादा लोगओं की आत्मा हमे कोशेगी क्यों वो भी भारत का अभिन्न अंग है और वहां के लोगो से ज्यादा आतंकवाद में किसी ने नही खोया है. यही हाल उत्तर -पूर्व राज्यों का है जहाँ एक अलग तरह का ही आतंकवाद ने लोगो की जाने ली है जिनमे सैनिक और असैनिक दोनों ही शामिल हैं.नुक्सान सिर्फ़ हमारा ही है. ऐसे हादसों को धरम से अलग हटकर देखना होगा. ऐसी सिथति में देश को फिर से एक सरदार पटेल जैसे लोह्पुरुष की आवसयाकता है जो रास्ट्रीय सतर पैर देश को एक धागे में पिरो सके.नौजवानों के पास मौका है की वो इस चुनौती को न जाने दे. न की अपने पैदाइशी टुच्चेपन की तरफ़ लौटते हुए इस सिथातिजन्य क्रोध को बेकार जाने दे.
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apoonia
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Are Indians Cowards,Selfish or simply Blind
The siege on Mumbai left even the most experienced of us stunned. Even those who have become immune to grief and tragedy stopped for a
second. The 48-hour encounter with these extremely sophisticated and trained terrorists of Pakistani origin left India burning in every
sense of the word. The versions and accounts are endless. Trying to quantify people's grief would not only be futile but indeed low down.
People who went for their daily evening session of beer and gossip at the Leopold café, that special once a month dinner at the Taj or for
the bitter sweet occasion of farewell at CST Station never returned.
This isn't the first time we're hearing about something like this. These stories have been talked about through out this year and to be honest through out our lives. We have experienced five separate series of bomb blasts across the country in this year alone. The dreadful cries of the Gujarat riots are yet to recede from recent memories. The 2006 and 1993 Bombay blasts and riots haunt their victims even now.
However, we are not here to talk about the grief that these victims suffer. Nor do I wish to discuss the various and repeated intelligence failures and lackadaisical attempts of the government and its security agencies. We are here to figure out what exactly is wrong with us, because it is evident that there is something horribly amiss in this country and it's people.
People are not born terrorists. Teenagers do not get up one fine day with the conviction that violence is the path of their lives. The terrorist that battled with NSG in the Taj hotel for over 24 hours was not more that 25 years old. Can any of you imagine the kind of courage and determination that this young boy exemplified in accomplishing such a feat. He is a terrorist, a terrorist who is responsible for the death of over 150 people. He is also a mere boy. A boy whom we have
forced into becoming the man he died as. The Indian mujahidin consists of young boys from the JMI College in Delhi. Sadhvi Pragya is in her early twenties. These people are our age. They are people who we see in movie halls and at street corners. They are not aliens of another race. Terrorism was not brought in from Mars. It breeds within us. The worst part is, that we created it.
Every kind of terrorism stems from extremism; and extremism is the most obvious ramification of discrimination. Discrimination is sadly practiced in every nook and corner of our country. We think it's insignificant, we think that it's just the way people are. But it is discrimination and if only we were brave enough to face it.
It is discrimination when the age-old story of Hindu parents refusing to marry their daughter into a Muslim family repeats itself. It is discrimination when parents of Muslim children refuse to sing Hindu bhajans. It is discrimination when Christians refuse to participate in Hindu and Muslim festivals. All of this is discrimination. And every form of terrorism and extremism finds it's roots in this kind of discrimination, which is practiced in each and every one of our homes. That is why we need to look at our homes and our thinking before we cry out in rage and protest against the government and security forces.
Last night you had emotional and angry Mumbai mobs screaming out anti Pakistani slogans. That is the beginning of terrorism. Have we all gone mad? What does the normal Pakistani family who is probably in their own way praying for the Mumbai victims have anything to do with this? This is the quintessential problem that we are facing. When will we realize that by blaming each other the problem will only intensify.
The Hindus destroyed the Babri masjid. The Muslims blew up a Hindu coach. The Hindus killed a city full of Muslims. Wave after wave of madness. Stop! How long can we go on like this? An eye for an eye has never been the answer and it should not take us a thousand years to accept the truth of this statement.
You had Raj Thakare chasing out the north Indians and Biharis from Maharashtra. Over three hundred North Indians of the NSG saved his beloved Marathi manoos. Where was Bal Thakare then? Forget about this one man, where were the rest of our cosmopolitan Mumbaikers who let this man get away with what he did.. Where were the progressive and peaceful Hindu leaders when churches burnt in Orissa and Karnataka? We should all hang our heads in shame.
In another 60 years we'll have Bihari terrorists attacking Maharashtra and Maharashtrian terrorist retaliating. Next we'll have border security squadrons for our state borders. Don't smile skeptically. The India-Pakistan feud had also started off in 1947 with Muslims being chased out of Delhi and Hindus being chased out of Lahore. Look where it stands now.
Today you have every news channel proudly acclaiming the army, NSG and Marine commandos as heroes. People in Mumbai are running out on the
streets to congratulate them. These heroes weren't born today. They have been here all this while. Where were these people of India, the Media, when the IAS used their Machiavellian minds to reduce the salaries of all the Defence Forces. Where were these people when the corporate world squabbled over a few hundred rupees rise in the salaries of these men who always risk their lives to keep us safe? I could not see the bureaucracy putting their life on the line to save
hostages in the Trident. I did not see the corporate world dying at the border during the Kargil war. And I did not see Indian citizens who today call these soldiers heroes defending them when they needed us the most.
You want to know what the problem with India is? We're cowards. We don't think as a single nation and we can't stand up for what's right.
I'll give you a small and perfect example of what is wrong with us. We all complain about this country's dirty roads. We love holidaying in Sydney's spick and span streets. The most educated of us are yet to hesitate while throwing a sweet wrapper or lays packet on the street. Or we'll throw it in an already existing dump on the street. We can't even wait till we come across a dustbin. This is what is wrong with us.
We have enough and more to say about Manmohan Singh and Advani and every other useless politician and rightly so. But the fact is that in all honesty we couldn't care less. The best of us don't vote, don't contest in elections and don't even help out N.G.O.s When we can't do anything for our country how dare we, I repeat, how dare we expect anyone else to do anything.
We can go on talking about stepping up security, straightening out our coast guards and eradicating terrorism. But the problem lies not in our security system but in us. It lies in our madrassas, in our temples, in our schools in our homes and in our minds. And until we realize our role, until we open our eyes to this truth, not a thing will change.
Everyone talks about this new India, a shining progressive and young India. Well it's time for Young, New and Shining India to prove herself. Stand up and prove your worth. This so- called liberal and progressive thinking generation needs to root out those weeds that grow in the oldest corners our gardens. We need to start thinking and start talking. Talking to ourselves and to others. We need to start doing. This has to be a national youth movement. We have to make it
the beginning of a revolution. Every historic movement starts like this. Vague, uncertain and hesitant but moving towards a common calling motivated by the same inspiration and dream. This is our chance.
Don't tell me that we won't be able to reach out to the people who need to hear what we have to say. These people live among us. There is no limit to what people can achieve when they set out to do something. You are talking about a country whose founding father won a war without raising a weapon. Who have lived on stories of Subhash Chandra Bose calling out for blood and promising freedom. Well we've bled. Now it's time to get our freedom. Freedom from our own mindsets. Freedom from shackles we've placed on ourselves.
These last two days have been the worst attack that India has ever dealt with. If this alarm wasn't loud enough, no alarm will ever wake us up.
How many more people have to die before we respond to India's desperate plea for help?
The siege on Mumbai left even the most experienced of us stunned. Even those who have become immune to grief and tragedy stopped for a
second. The 48-hour encounter with these extremely sophisticated and trained terrorists of Pakistani origin left India burning in every
sense of the word. The versions and accounts are endless. Trying to quantify people's grief would not only be futile but indeed low down.
People who went for their daily evening session of beer and gossip at the Leopold café, that special once a month dinner at the Taj or for
the bitter sweet occasion of farewell at CST Station never returned.
This isn't the first time we're hearing about something like this. These stories have been talked about through out this year and to be honest through out our lives. We have experienced five separate series of bomb blasts across the country in this year alone. The dreadful cries of the Gujarat riots are yet to recede from recent memories. The 2006 and 1993 Bombay blasts and riots haunt their victims even now.
However, we are not here to talk about the grief that these victims suffer. Nor do I wish to discuss the various and repeated intelligence failures and lackadaisical attempts of the government and its security agencies. We are here to figure out what exactly is wrong with us, because it is evident that there is something horribly amiss in this country and it's people.
People are not born terrorists. Teenagers do not get up one fine day with the conviction that violence is the path of their lives. The terrorist that battled with NSG in the Taj hotel for over 24 hours was not more that 25 years old. Can any of you imagine the kind of courage and determination that this young boy exemplified in accomplishing such a feat. He is a terrorist, a terrorist who is responsible for the death of over 150 people. He is also a mere boy. A boy whom we have
forced into becoming the man he died as. The Indian mujahidin consists of young boys from the JMI College in Delhi. Sadhvi Pragya is in her early twenties. These people are our age. They are people who we see in movie halls and at street corners. They are not aliens of another race. Terrorism was not brought in from Mars. It breeds within us. The worst part is, that we created it.
Every kind of terrorism stems from extremism; and extremism is the most obvious ramification of discrimination. Discrimination is sadly practiced in every nook and corner of our country. We think it's insignificant, we think that it's just the way people are. But it is discrimination and if only we were brave enough to face it.
It is discrimination when the age-old story of Hindu parents refusing to marry their daughter into a Muslim family repeats itself. It is discrimination when parents of Muslim children refuse to sing Hindu bhajans. It is discrimination when Christians refuse to participate in Hindu and Muslim festivals. All of this is discrimination. And every form of terrorism and extremism finds it's roots in this kind of discrimination, which is practiced in each and every one of our homes. That is why we need to look at our homes and our thinking before we cry out in rage and protest against the government and security forces.
Last night you had emotional and angry Mumbai mobs screaming out anti Pakistani slogans. That is the beginning of terrorism. Have we all gone mad? What does the normal Pakistani family who is probably in their own way praying for the Mumbai victims have anything to do with this? This is the quintessential problem that we are facing. When will we realize that by blaming each other the problem will only intensify.
The Hindus destroyed the Babri masjid. The Muslims blew up a Hindu coach. The Hindus killed a city full of Muslims. Wave after wave of madness. Stop! How long can we go on like this? An eye for an eye has never been the answer and it should not take us a thousand years to accept the truth of this statement.
You had Raj Thakare chasing out the north Indians and Biharis from Maharashtra. Over three hundred North Indians of the NSG saved his beloved Marathi manoos. Where was Bal Thakare then? Forget about this one man, where were the rest of our cosmopolitan Mumbaikers who let this man get away with what he did.. Where were the progressive and peaceful Hindu leaders when churches burnt in Orissa and Karnataka? We should all hang our heads in shame.
In another 60 years we'll have Bihari terrorists attacking Maharashtra and Maharashtrian terrorist retaliating. Next we'll have border security squadrons for our state borders. Don't smile skeptically. The India-Pakistan feud had also started off in 1947 with Muslims being chased out of Delhi and Hindus being chased out of Lahore. Look where it stands now.
Today you have every news channel proudly acclaiming the army, NSG and Marine commandos as heroes. People in Mumbai are running out on the
streets to congratulate them. These heroes weren't born today. They have been here all this while. Where were these people of India, the Media, when the IAS used their Machiavellian minds to reduce the salaries of all the Defence Forces. Where were these people when the corporate world squabbled over a few hundred rupees rise in the salaries of these men who always risk their lives to keep us safe? I could not see the bureaucracy putting their life on the line to save
hostages in the Trident. I did not see the corporate world dying at the border during the Kargil war. And I did not see Indian citizens who today call these soldiers heroes defending them when they needed us the most.
You want to know what the problem with India is? We're cowards. We don't think as a single nation and we can't stand up for what's right.
I'll give you a small and perfect example of what is wrong with us. We all complain about this country's dirty roads. We love holidaying in Sydney's spick and span streets. The most educated of us are yet to hesitate while throwing a sweet wrapper or lays packet on the street. Or we'll throw it in an already existing dump on the street. We can't even wait till we come across a dustbin. This is what is wrong with us.
We have enough and more to say about Manmohan Singh and Advani and every other useless politician and rightly so. But the fact is that in all honesty we couldn't care less. The best of us don't vote, don't contest in elections and don't even help out N.G.O.s When we can't do anything for our country how dare we, I repeat, how dare we expect anyone else to do anything.
We can go on talking about stepping up security, straightening out our coast guards and eradicating terrorism. But the problem lies not in our security system but in us. It lies in our madrassas, in our temples, in our schools in our homes and in our minds. And until we realize our role, until we open our eyes to this truth, not a thing will change.
Everyone talks about this new India, a shining progressive and young India. Well it's time for Young, New and Shining India to prove herself. Stand up and prove your worth. This so- called liberal and progressive thinking generation needs to root out those weeds that grow in the oldest corners our gardens. We need to start thinking and start talking. Talking to ourselves and to others. We need to start doing. This has to be a national youth movement. We have to make it
the beginning of a revolution. Every historic movement starts like this. Vague, uncertain and hesitant but moving towards a common calling motivated by the same inspiration and dream. This is our chance.
Don't tell me that we won't be able to reach out to the people who need to hear what we have to say. These people live among us. There is no limit to what people can achieve when they set out to do something. You are talking about a country whose founding father won a war without raising a weapon. Who have lived on stories of Subhash Chandra Bose calling out for blood and promising freedom. Well we've bled. Now it's time to get our freedom. Freedom from our own mindsets. Freedom from shackles we've placed on ourselves.
These last two days have been the worst attack that India has ever dealt with. If this alarm wasn't loud enough, no alarm will ever wake us up.
How many more people have to die before we respond to India's desperate plea for help?
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Sorry to point out that the title is a bit misleading. Indians are neither cowards, nor selfish nor blind – though it is true of today’s leaders who are governing India. This article has many self-contradictions in itself, being written by a 15-year old schoolgirl from Bangalore:
http://hariharansintblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/15-year-old-writes-on-mumbai-terror.html
A sheer copy-paste from another website hardly merits it for serious discussion which is going on, on this very topic, in a couple of other threads.
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Sorry to point out that the title is a bit misleading. Indians are neither cowards, nor selfish nor blind – though it is true of today’s leaders who are governing India. This article has many self-contradictions in itself, being written by a 15-year old schoolgirl from Bangalore:
http://hariharansintblog.blogspot.com/2008/12/15-year-old-writes-on-mumbai-terror.html
A sheer copy-paste from another website hardly merits it for serious discussion which is going on, on this very topic, in a couple of other threads.
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what do people achieve in copy/paste and just filling massive storage.
Looks like indulging in pessimism has become a national obsession since the Mumbai attacks. I feel the anger expressed by Shweta and Samar through beautiful (for lack of a better word) words. But I think we are exaggerating it a bit. And I have no patience for the rabble rousing speech given below. I don't want to over-analyse it, but just take one statement "Every kind of terrorism stems from discrimination" and the examples of social taboo against inter-religion marriages, etc. given as the rationale. If discrimination results in terrorism, then all human beings are terrorists. It is natural for any living being to discriminate. Say 2 guys propose to a girl and she chooses one (or rather discriminates against the other). So would the other guy go and blow himself up? There are definitely forms of discrimination (based on caste, religion, sex, etc.) that need to be opposed wholeheartedly. But to argue that THAT is the cause of terrorism is ridiculous. I know so many people who dislike Muslims and who would discriminate against them in matters such as marriage. But none of them has proceeded to become a terrorist. Trying to rationalize terrorism is a big folly. There would always be maniacs who would pursue their own agenda (read Lakhvi and co) and there would always be idiots who would fall into that trap (read Qasab and co). A 25 year old sane man can't be influenced to kill 150 people by an event that took place in another town, another country when he was 8 years old. To romanticize this idiot with words like "courage" and "determination" is blasphemous. He had nothing better to do in life- Jihadis found him, gave him good food, clothes and an objective. One can only imagine how wretched this guy's life would have been that he caught on to this objective.
As I said, I do empathise with the helplessness which many of us feel. But let's not over-do it. Just because some idiots blow themselves up doesn't make Indians cowards or blind or asleep. For all its worth as super power, the US couldn't prevent the worst terrorist attack ever. In fact, the entire nation was subsequently gripped by paranoia, which still exists to an extent. To argue that they havenot suffered another strike BECAUSE they changed their national character is to overlook the fact that they are not easily accessible for terrorists. In fact, it takes a lot of courage to get into the same train the next day after the blast and re-open the hotel destroyed by the terrorists within one month. Lots of things need to be done (like those suggested by Poonam). Some are thankfully being done now. But it would never be perfect. The government needs to take some overt/covert action to teach the perpetrators a lesson. As Indian citizens, we should demand changes and vote with our feet, AND not indulge in collective pessimism. We shouldn't see returning to "normalcy" as a bad thing. That is what our enemies don't want- they want us to be frothing at our mouth with anger and self-defeatism. The most fitting reply would be to bounce back with a venegance.
As I said, I do empathise with the helplessness which many of us feel. But let's not over-do it. Just because some idiots blow themselves up doesn't make Indians cowards or blind or asleep. For all its worth as super power, the US couldn't prevent the worst terrorist attack ever. In fact, the entire nation was subsequently gripped by paranoia, which still exists to an extent. To argue that they havenot suffered another strike BECAUSE they changed their national character is to overlook the fact that they are not easily accessible for terrorists. In fact, it takes a lot of courage to get into the same train the next day after the blast and re-open the hotel destroyed by the terrorists within one month. Lots of things need to be done (like those suggested by Poonam). Some are thankfully being done now. But it would never be perfect. The government needs to take some overt/covert action to teach the perpetrators a lesson. As Indian citizens, we should demand changes and vote with our feet, AND not indulge in collective pessimism. We shouldn't see returning to "normalcy" as a bad thing. That is what our enemies don't want- they want us to be frothing at our mouth with anger and self-defeatism. The most fitting reply would be to bounce back with a venegance.
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