Should we vote for National or State parties

In LS elections, should we vote for National Parties or the State parties?

  • National Parties (Whichever)

    Votes: 27 87.1%

  • State Parties

    Votes: 4 12.9%
  • Total voters
    31
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aryasatyadev

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As per the constitution of India the Union and States have different legislatives and diffrent priorities. The politics and policy of a Nation and that of a state are totally different, and different are the issues on which the elections are being contested.
Since last 15 years many a parties which are influential at state level are contesting the election at national level i.e. Loksabha, and it happened more than once that they show a formidable strength in Loksabha. As no national party is getting the clear majority (mainly due to these state parties), the smaller parties put up themselves to be traded in favour or against any party.
Isn't it the time that we should ponder over following aspects:
1. National Poilitics is different from a state's.
2. The parties should have pre-election allaince.
3. We should not let the party change their alliance after election.
4. Election involves a lot of money that comes from people like you and me and not from politicians.
5. Is it not better to vote for the National Parties (Whichever)?

Please contribute and let there be awareness
 
aryasatyadev said:
As per the constitution of India the Union and States have different legislatives and diffrent priorities. The politics and policy of a Nation and that of a state are totally different, and different are the issues on which the elections are being contested.
Since last 15 years many a parties which are influential at state level are contesting the election at national level i.e. Loksabha, and it happened more than once that they show a formidable strength in Loksabha. As no national party is getting the clear majority (mainly due to these state parties), the smaller parties put up themselves to be traded in favour or against any party.
Isn't it the time that we should ponder over following aspects:
1. National Poilitics is different from a state's.
2. The parties should have pre-election allaince.
3. We should not let the party change their alliance after election.
4. Election involves a lot of money that comes from people like you and me and not from politicians.
5. Is it not better to vote for the National Parties (Whichever)?

Please contribute and let there be awareness
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u know a local govt easliy understand the local areas problem
for exmpal
haryana
haryana main tau devi lal ji itna kia syd hi aaj tak kis state main hua ho
aapne haryana bhut unnche pucch cuka hai ab

we should also take care of national party
coz
it is the basic of country
wo bolte hai na jis chiz ki navi majbut ho wo kabi nhi hilti
ye fir main center khe sakte hai
esliye national should be a good systemtic
 
sachinb said:
bhai main to nyu kahu su ke itni loo ke maah hamne vote geran ghar te baahar nahi likadna chaahiye,,,,,,,,,saari voting raat ke time honi chaahiye.....garmi ke bakhat mein:rock
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भाई अगर रात नेः पोलिंग हो गयी तो इनेलो के ग्रीन ब्रिगेड क जवान ई वी एम् आली मशीना ने ठा ले जांगे !!!! धोल्ले दोफारे में एः गेर ल्यो ने भाई साब .... यह म्हारे आले वर्कर थोडे से अल्ल्बाधि से सं.... :rock :rock
 
I think we are moving away from the real issue, the issue is not whwther we vote or not, the issue is should we vote for state parties in LS elections, as electing an MLA and an MP are two different issues.
 
aryasatyadev said:
I think we are moving away from the real issue, the issue is not whwther we vote or not, the issue is should we vote for state parties in LS elections, as electing an MLA and an MP are two different issues.
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You are using internet so i don't think you are an illiterate or uneducated person. This is your choice whom you want to elect and on what basis. Choose Wisely
 
Bhai Green Brigade aali te dekhi jaagi,,,,par in luvaa mein koni marryaa jaa,,,,,jo aapne intellectual bhai AC mein beth ke rajneeti ke upar 25 25 page bhaand de se,,,,,,bata ve din dopahari mein kyukar aajyaange,,,,,,,

Bhai i am of the oppinion that the polling should be done in the night:rock

anilsangwan said:
भाई अगर रात नेः पोलिंग हो गयी तो इनेलो के ग्रीन ब्रिगेड क जवान ई वी एम् आली मशीना ने ठा ले जांगे !!!! धोल्ले दोफारे में एः गेर ल्यो ने भाई साब .... यह म्हारे आले वर्कर थोडे से अल्ल्बाधि से सं.... :rock :rock
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aryasatyadev said:
As per the constitution of India the Union and States have different legislatives and diffrent priorities. The politics and policy of a Nation and that of a state are totally different, and different are the issues on which the elections are being contested.
Since last 15 years many a parties which are influential at state level are contesting the election at national level i.e. Loksabha, and it happened more than once that they show a formidable strength in Loksabha. As no national party is getting the clear majority (mainly due to these state parties), the smaller parties put up themselves to be traded in favour or against any party.
Isn't it the time that we should ponder over following aspects:
1. National Poilitics is different from a state's.
2. The parties should have pre-election allaince.
3. We should not let the party change their alliance after election.
4. Election involves a lot of money that comes from people like you and me and not from politicians.
5. Is it not better to vote for the National Parties (Whichever)?

Please contribute and let there be awareness
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Excellent thoughts Arya Sahab!

After Parisiman national and regional parties are in an interesting fight.Thaty mandate would be a mixed one. Voting for national parties is anytime better in my opinion and I did as well.

By the way, just curious, for whom did ( National or regional) you vote this time?
 
When you are voting for state assembly then vote for state parties when for Loksabha..... vote for national parties.......... simple......
Otherwise accept Mayawati as PM:tamatar
 
National parties preferable in Centre

poonam17 said:
When you are voting for state assembly then vote for state parties when for Loksabha..... vote for national parties.......... simple......
Otherwise accept Mayawati as PM:tamatar
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Agree :)

National parties in state govt may sometime don't understand the local needs and it may cause problem. So in national interest National parties should be first choice in Center but for state govt it may vary from state to state. Like in Madhya pradesh / Gujarat / Uttarakhand / Rajasthan / Himachal there are no strong state level parties. So in these state we should stick to national parties in order to avoid problems in future caused because of too many state parties (like in maharshtra, Haryana). However in case of Tamilnadu / Andhra / Pujab / Haryana we should choose among state level or national parties based on their understanding of the local needs and their interest in public issues at down-the-earth level.


So the answer for this simple looking question is not so simple.

Anyway Poonam ji ..... leaders like Mayawati are not at acceptable at least fro me. :)
 
Anil,

A scenario for favoring a state party, with strong ideology and understanding of state issues ruling the state....clashing with a national party in the center....what happens to the allocation of resources to the state?

Strong state/regional parties with seats at the center- coalition government, with a tussle to bring together the ideologies, policies, etc etc...and what happens to resources????

Regards,
Anju
anil_rathee said:
Agree :)

National parties in state govt may sometime don't understand the local needs and it may cause problem. So in national interest National parties should be first choice in Center but for state govt it may vary from state to state. Like in Madhya pradesh / Gujarat / Uttarakhand / Rajasthan / Himachal there are no strong state level parties. So in these state we should stick to national parties in order to avoid problems in future caused because of too many state parties (like in maharshtra, Haryana). However in case of Tamilnadu / Andhra / Pujab / Haryana we should choose among state level or national parties based on their understanding of the local needs and their interest in public issues at down-the-earth level.


So the answer for this simple looking question is not so simple.

Anyway Poonam ji ..... leaders like Mayawati are not at acceptable at least fro me. :)
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Ideally thinking, parties should be given to form the alliances before the elections.
Before the elections parties would be criticizing the parties they might form alliance with after the elections in order to serve their vested interests of coming into the goverment.
Why should parties be given to compromise their ideals and idealogy in lack of the clear majority???
Can the urge to form a stable goverment justify this compromise??
 
Regional parties are formed to represent regional aspirations at the national level. But it does not mean they are anti national or are promoting balkanisation of the country. And if spearheaded by a charismatic leader they can help not only in the development of the particular region but help in national development as well.

However, in the present political scenario the regional parties just want to cash in on the emotions of the public on some local issues. Their main aim is to get a piece of the pie. Parties like LJP is one such example. Ram Vilas Paswan has been a permanent fixture in the Union Cabinet since 1996.

National parties have a widespread reach and in today's era of coalition politics work on a common minimum program/joint manifesto. If the manifesto adequately represents the just demands of the region and is also in sync with the larger national goals, one should always vote for such parties instead of being swayed by short term goals of the oppurtunistic parties.
 
anjoo said:
Anil,

A scenario for favoring a state party, with strong ideology and understanding of state issues ruling the state....clashing with a national party in the center....what happens to the allocation of resources to the state?

Strong state/regional parties with seats at the center- coalition government, with a tussle to bring together the ideologies, policies, etc etc...and what happens to resources????

Regards,
Anju
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Anjoo,

What kind of resources are we talking about here?? Financial??

I dont think anything should happen to the financial resources in both the scenarios that u mentioned. There are different revenue sources and methods are in place for sharing the revenue between the centre and the states.
 
Kuldeep,

Yes, there are revenue sources segregated for center as well as state.
However, please correct me if I am wrong, isn't there a central pool of funds that provides plan/ non-plan/ discretionary funds, grants in aid, loans and advance, interstate projects etcetera to the states...and also balances the fiscal pressure on states that are poor in natural resources and development?
Finance Commission advises recommendations for this allocation...but then, is the central govt. expected to follow these?

Regards,
Anju
brainspeak said:
Anjoo,

What kind of resources are we talking about here?? Financial??

I dont think anything should happen to the financial resources in both the scenarios that u mentioned. There are different revenue sources and methods are in place for sharing the revenue between the centre and the states.
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anjoo said:
Kuldeep,

Yes, there are revenue sources segregated for center as well as state.
However, please correct me if I am wrong, isn't there a central pool of funds that provides plan/ non-plan/ discretionary funds, grants in aid, loans and advance, interstate projects etcetera to the states...and also balances the fiscal pressure on states that are poor in natural resources and development?
Finance Commission advises recommendations for this allocation...but then, is the central govt. expected to follow these?

Regards,
Anju
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Anjoo,

Yes the central government does follow the recommendations of the finance commission.
 
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