Is it a good sign for Haryana Politics? Sampat's Speech

Vivek:

Who told you that I favor Congress right now or favored it earlier?

Do not start assuming things here. I Was not and Am not a fan of either congress or INLD.

All I am trying to do is to call Spade a Spade.

There is a difference in being 'attached' to a party and being obsessed with any one party or leader in life. People like you are dangerous to the society as they do not know how to discriminate between delusions and reality.

The show is over my friend, and your 'leader' has lost in a miserable manner. So accept it gracefully and try to do something constructive that might help you and/ or your leader in the future. A 'Dalit' lady who is not even from haryana got more votes in Haryana than your 'great' leader Chautala. Now that fact will remain as it is whether you are happy or not about it.

Your partys leader Sampat singh had something to say about the party and that is what we were discussing here. If your own party people do not have faith in their own party and its leadership, who else will.

And lastly the 'Juntaa' or 'Public' is not as imbecile as what you think. Their vote pattern is not a gamble like dice throws. By saying that : Public ka kya pataa, are you trying to say that the entire population of Haryana is foolish and that is why they don't know who to vote for? Are you the only truthfull 'Gyaani' here?



bhai main aapke gyan ka kayal hoogaya

dhanyevad
 
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Vivek:

Who told you that I favor Congress right now or favored it earlier?

Do not start assuming things here. I Was not and Am not a fan of either congress or INLD.

All I am trying to do is to call Spade a Spade.

There is a difference in being 'attached' to a party and being obsessed with any one party or leader in life. People like you are dangerous to the society as they do not know how to discriminate between delusions and reality.

The show is over my friend, and your 'leader' has lost in a miserable manner. So accept it gracefully and try to do something constructive that might help you and/ or your leader in the future. A 'Dalit' lady who is not even from haryana got more votes in Haryana than your 'great' leader Chautala. Now that fact will remain as it is whether you are happy or not about it.

Your partys leader Sampat singh had something to say about the party and that is what we were discussing here. If your own party people do not have faith in their own party and its leadership, who else will.

And lastly the 'Juntaa' or 'Public' is not as imbecile as what you think. Their vote pattern is not a gamble like dice throws. By saying that : Public ka kya pataa, are you trying to say that the entire population of Haryana is foolish and that is why they don't know who to vote for? Are you the only truthfull 'Gyaani' here?
bhai ya haryana ki janta bewkoof to jab bhi na thi jab ise janta n INLD+BJP ko 10ki 10 seat pe jeetaya tha.....bhai time ki bat howe s ya to.....
 
At that time the 'junta' had given the chautalas a fair chance to 'prove their worth'

They showed their worth in so much style that even 2 terms after that time, people prefer to vote more for Mayawati than chautala.

That itself should be enough to see what people think about the chautala regime

vo 10/10 agle hi election mein saaf ho gayi...but congress ki 9/10 kyon barkaraar rahi vikram saab?

PS: By the way, are you Vikram or Vikrant?



bhai ya haryana ki janta bewkoof to jab bhi na thi jab ise janta n INLD+BJP ko 10ki 10 seat pe jeetaya tha.....bhai time ki bat howe s ya to.....
 
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Really missing Sachin Balyan bhai......ban hatao bhai sarpancho, bahut din hogye...koye na galti ho jaya karre balkan p(i dont know actually what happened).
without u these types of threads are fading their shine and a healthy debate.
 
Really missing Sachin Balyan bhai......ban hatao bhai sarpancho, bahut din hogye...koye na galti ho jaya karre balkan p(i dont know actually what happened).
without u these types of threads are fading their shine and a healthy debate.


balak ne kya galti kari ? uska ban khatam karo .
jat hai to kuch ulta sidha bolega,
sachin balian jindabad................................................................................................
jinabad:)
 
Thanx to moderators for removing ban from Mr. Sachin Balyan.
Welcome bhai Sachin.
 
Thanks a lot Bhai......Ban hataane mein Mods ka koyi haath nahi hai.....it got opened after the stipulated time limit of one month......

Bhai ye Mods kuchh Members ke haath mein hi khel rahein hain......koye Hamaare PM ya President ko angreji mein gandi aur bhaddi kism ki gaaliyaan de to unke khilaaf ye kuchh nahi karte lekin mere jaisa koyi Haryanvi mein hansi majaak kar le yaa phir gandi gaaliyaan dene waalo ko aade haath lele to hamaarei upar ban kar diyaa jaata hai........

Baaki baat nyu se ke bhai is Chautala aaale kunbe mein saare ek jisse se,,,,Ajay koye ghaat na se,,,,,yu to Abhay te bhi upar pade se,,,,,,,

haan hamein chaahiye ki koyi aur Jat Neta ubhar kar aaye.....Ch. Sampat Singh is a good person he should take the command in his hand:rock

Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock
Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock
Angrejo Bharat Chhodo:rock
Thanx to moderators for removing ban from Mr. Sachin Balyan.
Welcome bhai Sachin.
 
bhai balyan mubark ho ban khul gaya.........

bhai nu bata n yo tera hooda kam s k......main nu kahu iste corrupt to koye hona bhi na

Thanks a lot Bhai......Ban hataane mein Mods ka koyi haath nahi hai.....it got opened after the stipulated time limit of one month......

Bhai ye Mods kuchh Members ke haath mein hi khel rahein hain......koye Hamaare PM ya President ko angreji mein gandi aur bhaddi kism ki gaaliyaan de to unke khilaaf ye kuchh nahi karte lekin mere jaisa koyi Haryanvi mein hansi majaak kar le yaa phir gandi gaaliyaan dene waalo ko aade haath lele to hamaarei upar ban kar diyaa jaata hai........

Baaki baat nyu se ke bhai is Chautala aaale kunbe mein saare ek jisse se,,,,Ajay koye ghaat na se,,,,,yu to Abhay te bhi upar pade se,,,,,,,

haan hamein chaahiye ki koyi aur Jat Neta ubhar kar aaye.....Ch. Sampat Singh is a good person he should take the command in his hand:rock

Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock
Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock
Angrejo Bharat Chhodo:rock
 
Thanks bhai for welcoming back.....ib te ham aapne agle BAN ki tyaari karan laag rhe saaaa:D

Kharub bhai,,,,Ch. Bhupinder Singh Hooda sahab jeetna Sheel-Swabhaav aur sajjan CM aaj tak nahi dekha hai,,,,,,ye Insaan ki ijjat karna jaante hain aur karte bhi hain,,,,logo se prem-bhaav se milte hain aur faaltu ki daadagiri aur gundagardi mein vishvaash nahi rakhte......,,,,,,,,baaki bhai jiska jo ji kare vo kah sakke se,,,kisse ka mooh thoda na pakdyaa jaa se

Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock
Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock
Angrejo Bharat Chhodo:rock
bhai balyan mubark ho ban khul gaya.........

bhai nu bata n yo tera hooda kam s k......main nu kahu iste corrupt to koye hona bhi na
 
desh me parivaar naam ki rajniti ka sab ta bada godaam/ showroom iss gandhi parivaar ka s eb tahi bandh na hoya , faltta fultta aur ja s ....
rajender ji pakki baat s k , ke ya paswan chautala saab ki dukaan bandh ho ja gi ?


Rakesh ji sahi baat sai but Gandhi parivar nei apni dukaan ib kateiyi Commercial complex mein convert kar di err ghani kasuti mareking kar rahe sein ye...
Inke aage ye baki baaniye (chautala , lalu , paswan) sab chote pad gaye. err chahe nyun keh lyo ek ye apni franchisee kholan mein safal nahi rahe to inka network chota pad gaya......

agar iss hisaab tei dekho to bina family aali dukaan to ek hi sai - BJP. jikne koi apni ghar ki dukaan kahan wala nahi sai
par unki bhi gati is Gandhi Commercial Complex ke saamne kuch jyada achchi nahi hai
 
Very true bhai...

Congress is being run as blue chip MNC company lead by Gandhi's.......Kudos to them .....

Other must learn from them...

regards
Hemant

Rakesh ji sahi baat sai but Gandhi parivar nei apni dukaan ib kateiyi Commercial complex mein convert kar di err ghani kasuti mareking kar rahe sein ye...
Inke aage ye baki baaniye (chautala , lalu , paswan) sab chote pad gaye. err chahe nyun keh lyo ek ye apni franchisee kholan mein safal nahi rahe to inka network chota pad gaya......

agar iss hisaab tei dekho to bina family aali dukaan to ek hi sai - BJP. jikne koi apni ghar ki dukaan kahan wala nahi sai
par unki bhi gati is Gandhi Commercial Complex ke saamne kuch jyada achchi nahi hai
 
65 reasons why INLD lost

Sampat writes to party
Sushil Manav
Tribune News Service​

Sirsa, June 13
The reasons of the Indian National Lok Dal’s worst-ever debacle in the recent parliamentary poll, as described by Sampat Singh, a senior leader of the party, have created a flutter within the party and INLD workers have been discussing these reasons with interest throughout the state.
Sampat Singh has cited as many as 65 reasons for the defeat of the INLD and sent these to the party.
Captioned as “Summary of the questions raised by party workers during party meetings”, Sampat Singh has raised some pointed questions on the style of functioning of the party leadership, among some other factors, and has attributed the party’s debacle to these factors.
Going by the sharpness of the language of his letter, through which he has enumerated the reasons for the party’s rout, Sampat Singh has left political observers speculating about his future plans.
“The party claims to be following the policies of Devi Lal and has cashed in on Devi Lal’s name on several occasions, but, in fact, it is miles away from the former Deputy Prime Minister’s politics. While Devi Lal could meet and talk to any common man anywhere, the present leadership of the party remains in the company of the rich and affluent, stays at their residence and takes meals with them. The present leadership of the party does not even like to listen to the poor,” is one of the several reasons cited by Sampat Singh.
Sampat Singh has also had a dig at the SMSes being solicited from workers seeking their suggestions and said workers get respect in the party till the party is out of power and their suggestions are also welcome but once the party attains power, workers are the first to be humiliated publicly. Arrogance of those who remain in close proximity to the Chautala family, the denial of the ticket to Sushil Indora and Kailasho Saini cost the party dear and lack of powers to ministers during the INLD regime have also been cited as some of the reasons for the party’s debacle.

Looks like Prof. Sampat Singh is looking for the same treatment he got few years ago in the same farm house(we just heard these stories).....my sincere advice........he should join a little more sensible party like congress
 
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Looks like Prof. Sampat Singh is looking for the same treatment he got few years ago in the same farm house(we just heard these stories).....my sincere advice........he should join a little more sensible party like congress

He has already received that 'N' number of times before.

But I think he was waiting for the outcome of this election as he knew it would be close. He was already fed up with the 3 goons.

Now that he sees no future in the party, these smell to be the early symptoms of a divorce with the party.

"Ugte sooraj ko hi sabhi loog salaam karte hain"
 
As per the recent elections Congress is clearly winner on 56 assembly seats and INLD is the only second with 22, HJC 5 and BSP 6 winner on Mayawati "PM Tag".

So looks like in assemble elections BSP votes will move and there will be only fight between Congress and INLD. I think even if INLD retains the same figure they are going to better opposition then before.
 
“The party claims to be following the policies of Devi Lal and has cashed in on Devi Lal’s name on several occasions, but, in fact, it is miles away from the former Deputy Prime Minister’s politics. While Devi Lal could meet and talk to any common man anywhere, the present leadership of the party remains in the company of the rich and affluent, stays at their residence and takes meals with them. The present leadership of the party does not even like to listen to the poor,” is one of the several reasons cited by Sampat Singh.
Sampat Singh has also had a dig at the SMSes being solicited from workers seeking their suggestions and said workers get respect in the party till the party is out of power and their suggestions are also welcome but once the party attains power, workers are the first to be humiliated publicly. Arrogance of those who remain in close proximity to the Chautala family, the denial of the ticket to Sushil Indora and Kailasho Saini cost the party dear and lack of powers to ministers during the INLD regime have also been cited as some of the reasons for the party’s debacle.

Looks like Prof. Sampat Singh is looking for the same treatment he got few years ago in the same farm house(we just heard these stories).....my sincere advice........he should join a little more sensible party like congress

Chillar Saab ram ram,

I totally agree with what Sampat said about the reasons of party loosing so badly.

But I differ that he should join congress. INLD (LOKDAL) was really a good party and that was not a private property of Devi Lal Ji, there were people who were educated and sensible and also they had their say. It was very much closer to farmers and villagers (which is the main population party of haryana). There was a democratic structure in the party. I wish and strongly feel this party should again rise but MINUS

a) Family monopoly
b) Criminal mindset
c) Ignorance of poor/farmers/villagers
d) Restricted/Accessible mainly to criminal mindset people
e) Arrogance
f) MLAs present status of statues
etc

Wish to see this party moving ahead with new educated and sobre faces instead of only the trio.

In Haryana a solid opposition should always be there to keep check on the ruling party. Today CM might be doing good works but it is for sure that finding no opposition may lead him somewhere. Also I feel that INLD will always be better than BJP, BSP, Bhajan Lal's party.

People like Sampat should speak openly and loudly for any kind of issues within the party. This way only they can improve. And still if the party remains the same then he should come out may be with a different party with old devi lal followers or congress.
 
Chillar Saab ram ram,

I totally agree with what Sampat said about the reasons of party loosing so badly.

But I differ that he should join congress. INLD (LOKDAL) was really a good party and that was not a private property of Devi Lal Ji, there were people who were educated and sensible and also they had their say. It was very much closer to farmers and villagers (which is the main population party of haryana). There was a democratic structure in the party. I wish and strongly feel this party should again rise but MINUS

a) Family monopoly
b) Criminal mindset
c) Ignorance of poor/farmers/villagers
d) Restricted/Accessible mainly to criminal mindset people
e) Arrogance
f) MLAs present status of statues
etc

Wish to see this party moving ahead with new educated and sobre faces instead of only the trio.

In Haryana a solid opposition should always be there to keep check on the ruling party. Today CM might be doing good works but it is for sure that finding no opposition may lead him somewhere. Also I feel that INLD will always be better than BJP, BSP, Bhajan Lal's party.

People like Sampat should speak openly and loudly for any kind of issues within the party. This way only they can improve. And still if the party remains the same then he should come out may be with a different party with old devi lal followers or congress.

Old and educated followers had started quiting the party one by one ever since Chautalas took over, today all of them are in Congress. Also, leave the comparison alone I am not even sure if it is party because party means a group of people which is not the case here...teen babu beta arrr baaki saare palledaar...
 
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Rakesh ji badde Godaam mein e theek si,,,,,aap bhi kyun chhoti-motti dukaandaari ke paachhe pad rhe so,,,,haade kade haldi na paavve, kade mirch naa paave ar kade namak naa paavve,,,,,,,,,,,,,haan Lath ar Mogre jarur paa jyaa se is chhoti dukaan mein gaahak kaabu karan khaatir:D:D:rock

isi liye Bhai aap Vikas Purush Ch. Bhupinder Singh Hooda ko hi apna lyo:rock

Jat Ekta Jindabaad:rock

desh me parivaar naam ki rajniti ka sab ta bada godaam/ showroom iss gandhi parivaar ka s eb tahi bandh na hoya , faltta fultta aur ja s ....
rajender ji pakki baat s k , ke ya paswan chautala saab ki dukaan bandh ho ja gi ?
 
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