Is it a good sign for Haryana Politics? Sampat's Speech

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I appreciate Prof. Sampat Singh for such a bold speech. Ek ek point wahi hai jo hum log itne din se discuss kar rahe hein. THIS IS THE TRUTH.

Atleast we found one man in the party who can speak openly the truth. Na to babbu bete ee sare haryane ne hank rahe they. (Though Ajay seems to be a gentle person)

Come on INLD workers and members ... this way only you can improve INLD ... which was really a good party during times of Devi Lal. You can again do that.

I know few members who have taken initiative for the same ... Anil Sangwan has written good number of points and dropped at their head office. May those will be heard or read. Others also should .... Galat karne walon ko sheesha dikhana jaroori hai. Sahi ko sahi kahena bhi jaroori hai.

I thank the people of Haryana too ... specially Hissar who have given Prof. Sampat Singh a good fight and courage to speak the truth out. Logon ne sahi ko sahi kaha tabhi un sahi leaders mein jaan aai hai.

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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090605/haryana.htm#1

Workers of the INLD are not able to digest three consecutive defeats of their party.


Some workers have started uttering something, though feebly, to even think of which was considered blasphemous in the tightly controlled regional party. A demand is being made in certain quarters of the INLD that there should be a change in the leadership.

This demand was first raised at a party meeting held in Kurukshetra a few days ago, where some workers said in the presence of Haryana INLD chief Ashok Arora that the next Assembly elections should be contested under the leadership of party secretary-general Ajay Singh if the party was to survive. One or two speakers even went to the extent of suggesting that party president Om Prakash Chautala and his younger son Abhey Singh should “take rest for some time”. Ajay is the elder son of the former Chief Minister.

Similar sentiments, though in guarded language, were expressed at a closed-door meeting of the party executive held in Hisar on June 1 to discuss the reasons behind the party’s defeat. Though after the meeting Chautala had rationalised the party’s defeat by saying that these elections were contested on national issues and not state issues, at least one senior leader is believed to have called a spade a spade at the meeting.

Informed sources say former Finance Minister Sampat Singh told the meeting that the party lost because of its “commercialisation” when it was in power. He said the people had not forgiven the party for this. He said many who enriched themselves during INLD rule worked against the party in certain constituencies while they professed loyalty to the party in others.

He said it was wrong to say that the party lost because of national issues. The party had lost because of its image. There were many other reasons, including the belief of certain leaders that their private life would not reflect on the party’s image.

He said people were aware what sort of company these leaders kept. (Perhaps directed to Abhay)

Regretting that in his entire political career he had not seen the party in a worse situation than now, Sampat Singh said the party had met this fate because it had deviated from the policies of former Deputy Prime Minister Devi Lal.

In a hard-hitting speech, Sampat Singh said the INLD used to criticise former Chief Ministers Bansi Lal and Bhajan Lal for “killing” farmers. But people had not forgotten what had happened in Kandela when the INLD was in power. (At that time nine farmers were killed in police firing.)
The embittered leader said now incidents more serious than in Kandela were taking place. But the dispute was resolved by Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda amicably within three or four days. But in Kandela farmers blocked roads for more than a month but no effort was made to redress their grievances.

People had not forgiven this arrogance of the INLD leadership.

Sampat Singh said in spite of allegations of corruption, Hooda’s image was that of an honest man.
Time will tell whether what Sampat Singh and some of the party workers had said will prove to be just the proverbial storm in a teacup or it will lead to bigger things
 
This is what we called as "Dhansu SPEECH" reflecting the truth:rock
Dekhey eeb Chautala and party ke reply karegi ( May be through Speech or....)



I appreciate Prof. Sampat Singh for such a bold speech. Ek ek point -------------------------

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090605/haryana.htm#1

forgiven the party for this. He said many who enriched themselves during INLD rule worked against the party in certain or it will lead to bigger things
 
This demand was first raised at a party meeting held in Kurukshetra a few days ago, where some workers said in the presence of Haryana INLD chief Ashok Arora that the next Assembly elections should be contested under the leadership of party secretary-general Ajay Singh if the party was to survive. One or two speakers even went to the extent of suggesting that party president Om Prakash Chautala and his younger son Abhey Singh should “take rest for some time”. Ajay is the elder son of the former Chief Minister.

Aur kitna rest karvaoge bhai
 
In reality Prof Sampat is an educated person who is relatively honest.

Being in INLD, he is damaging his own career. As I had mentioned before, it is not very intelligent of him to stay in this party for long.

The real truth (you can verify from your sources if you wish) is that he has been manhandled (physically and mentally) a large number of times by the 3 goons. That is common knowledge.

INLD needs atleast someone who is literate and has a clean image in an otherwise party of wrong doers, corrupt, illetrate goons. For this they need people like prof sampat....however from his perspective, it is all loss to him

Ajay chautala is relatively soft spoken among the 3. But that is just relative. From karam (actions) they are all the same. The other son's murder of his own wife and subsequent marriage to his dead wife's sister etc is also well known knowledge and so you dont have to go far to look for murders in their regime.

This party should ideally have no future and should have had no past also. But times are changing and people are no longer that stupid to be fooled by anyone.

Lath aur chala lo ab thoda....Gobar kadh diya juntaa ne....:D

I appreciate Prof. Sampat Singh for such a bold speech. Ek ek point wahi hai jo hum log itne din se discuss kar rahe hein. THIS IS THE TRUTH.

Atleast we found one man in the party who can speak openly the truth. Na to babbu bete ee sare haryane ne hank rahe they. (Though Ajay seems to be a gentle person)

Come on INLD workers and members ... this way only you can improve INLD ... which was really a good party during times of Devi Lal. You can again do that.

I know few members who have taken initiative for the same ... Anil Sangwan has written good number of points and dropped at their head office. May those will be heard or read. Others also should .... Galat karne walon ko sheesha dikhana jaroori hai. Sahi ko sahi kahena bhi jaroori hai.

I thank the people of Haryana too ... specially Hissar who have given Prof. Sampat Singh a good fight and courage to speak the truth out. Logon ne sahi ko sahi kaha tabhi un sahi leaders mein jaan aai hai.

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http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090605/haryana.htm#1

Workers of the INLD are not able to digest three consecutive defeats of their party.


Some workers have started uttering something, though feebly, to even think of which was considered blasphemous in the tightly controlled regional party. A demand is being made in certain quarters of the INLD that there should be a change in the leadership.

This demand was first raised at a party meeting held in Kurukshetra a few days ago, where some workers said in the presence of Haryana INLD chief Ashok Arora that the next Assembly elections should be contested under the leadership of party secretary-general Ajay Singh if the party was to survive. One or two speakers even went to the extent of suggesting that party president Om Prakash Chautala and his younger son Abhey Singh should “take rest for some time”. Ajay is the elder son of the former Chief Minister.

Similar sentiments, though in guarded language, were expressed at a closed-door meeting of the party executive held in Hisar on June 1 to discuss the reasons behind the party’s defeat. Though after the meeting Chautala had rationalised the party’s defeat by saying that these elections were contested on national issues and not state issues, at least one senior leader is believed to have called a spade a spade at the meeting.

Informed sources say former Finance Minister Sampat Singh told the meeting that the party lost because of its “commercialisation” when it was in power. He said the people had not forgiven the party for this. He said many who enriched themselves during INLD rule worked against the party in certain constituencies while they professed loyalty to the party in others.

He said it was wrong to say that the party lost because of national issues. The party had lost because of its image. There were many other reasons, including the belief of certain leaders that their private life would not reflect on the party’s image.

He said people were aware what sort of company these leaders kept. (Perhaps directed to Abhay)

Regretting that in his entire political career he had not seen the party in a worse situation than now, Sampat Singh said the party had met this fate because it had deviated from the policies of former Deputy Prime Minister Devi Lal.

In a hard-hitting speech, Sampat Singh said the INLD used to criticise former Chief Ministers Bansi Lal and Bhajan Lal for “killing” farmers. But people had not forgotten what had happened in Kandela when the INLD was in power. (At that time nine farmers were killed in police firing.)
The embittered leader said now incidents more serious than in Kandela were taking place. But the dispute was resolved by Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda amicably within three or four days. But in Kandela farmers blocked roads for more than a month but no effort was made to redress their grievances.

People had not forgiven this arrogance of the INLD leadership.

Sampat Singh said in spite of allegations of corruption, Hooda’s image was that of an honest man.
Time will tell whether what Sampat Singh and some of the party workers had said will prove to be just the proverbial storm in a teacup or it will lead to bigger things
 
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In reality Prof Sampat is an educated person who is relatively honest.

Being in INLD, he is damaging his own career. As I had mentioned before, it is not very intelligent of him to stay in this party for long.

The real truth (you can verify from your sources if you wish) is that he has been manhandled (physically and mentally) a large number of times by the 3 goons. That is common knowledge.

INLD needs atleast someone who is literate and has a clean image in an otherwise party of wrong doers, corrupt, illetrate goons. For this they need people like prof sampat....however from his perspective, it is all loss to him

Ajay chautala is relatively soft spoken among the 3. But that is just relative. From karam (actions) they are all the same. The other son's murder of his own wife and subsequent marriage to his dead wife's sister etc is also well known knowledge and so you dont have to go far to look for murders in their regime.

This party should ideally have no future and should have had no past also. But times are changing and people are no longer that stupid to be fooled by anyone.

Lath aur chala lo ab thoda....Gobar kadh diya juntaa ne....:D

Very Right Brother.....word by word
 
In the days of big malls the small shops of family based regional parties are bound to close one by one. People are getting fed up with too many parties with hardly any ideology. Gone are the days of Paswans and Chautalas.

RK^2
 
In the days of big malls the small shops of family based regional parties are bound to close one by one. People are getting fed up with too many parties with hardly any ideology. Gone are the days of Paswans and Chautalas.

RK^2
desh me parivaar naam ki rajniti ka sab ta bada godaam/ showroom iss gandhi parivaar ka s eb tahi bandh na hoya , faltta fultta aur ja s ....
rajender ji pakki baat s k , ke ya paswan chautala saab ki dukaan bandh ho ja gi ?
 
In reality Prof Sampat is an educated person who is relatively honest.

Being in INLD, he is damaging his own career. As I had mentioned before, it is not very intelligent of him to stay in this party for long.

The real truth (you can verify from your sources if you wish) is that he has been manhandled (physically and mentally) a large number of times by the 3 goons. That is common knowledge.

INLD needs atleast someone who is literate and has a clean image in an otherwise party of wrong doers, corrupt, illetrate goons. For this they need people like prof sampat....however from his perspective, it is all loss to him

Ajay chautala is relatively soft spoken among the 3. But that is just relative. From karam (actions) they are all the same. The other son's murder of his own wife and subsequent marriage to his dead wife's sister etc is also well known knowledge and so you dont have to go far to look for murders in their regime.

This party should ideally have no future and should have had no past also. But times are changing and people are no longer that stupid to be fooled by anyone.

Lath aur chala lo ab thoda....Gobar kadh diya juntaa ne....:D
bhai dum ho to mar a de , kise ki chhod ke bhaajya uska k rrrrrr ;)
 
In the days of big malls the small shops of family based regional parties are bound to close one by one. People are getting fed up with too many parties with hardly any ideology. Gone are the days of Paswans and Chautalas.

RK^2

and what about the family owned big malls (reference to the gandhi dynasty) they are here to stay....:o

goraas (plural) ruled us for a century and a half. Now a singular 'Gori' rules us...:D
 
Progressive Learning Curve

In the last 15 years of state level regime in Haryana, there has been a progressive curve in learning behavior by the leaders:-

1) During Bansi Lal ji's regime, everyone knew him as a headstrong person with unshakable values in life about right and wrong. It was known about him- 'Na khave, na khaan de' (doesnt accept or let accept bribes).
This created the restlessness among the MLA ranks who were interested in little more than their own purses. Rebellion among MLAs let to Bansi LaL jis downfall

2) Chautala learned from this and kept and iron whip for his MLAs, party workers and even beaurucrats. It was 'My way or the highway' and extortion, farm house treatment etc etc became the norm.
then it was 'Saare khudde khave se, khaan na de' ...MLAs who tried to revolt, were given quick doses of farm house treatments which mended their illness rapidly and kept it in control.
But people knew what was going on and so did the root level party workers who were left 'High and Dry'...this illetrate, high handed dictator approach led to chautalas downfall

3) Hoodas learned from this and kept a strong business like attitude in things....the hierarchy is structured more in a corporate manner now...u eat according to your rank and a commision reaches the top....Symbiosis among different ranks and a tight grip on the media and and external signals to keep a tight check on the image projected to the masses.

The Goonda image having been lifted and a regime of 'opportunity' you can eat according to your rank and ability as long as you remain faithful to the person above you in the pyramid structure....Make people work under you and project the 'nice guy' image....

however in the 1st and 3rd regimes, development work has been done which is positive and hopefully will be carried forward in future also...
 
desh me parivaar naam ki rajniti ka sab ta bada godaam/ showroom iss gandhi parivaar ka s eb tahi bandh na hoya , faltta fultta aur ja s ....
rajender ji pakki baat s k , ke ya paswan chautala saab ki dukaan bandh ho ja gi ?

Rakesh bhai band to pakki ho hi gayi he eeb to khulne ki baat dekho
 
Rakesh bhai band to pakki ho hi gayi he eeb to khulne ki baat dekho

Mr chillar i think in these lok sabha election INLD candidate comes second
on every lok sabha seat in haryana & if i am not wrong
the total number of votes INLD get on 10 loksbha seats in haryana is near about 14-15 lakh ... i dont think :confused: a polotical party which gets 14-15 lakh votes ..is no more :confused::confused::confused:
 
Mr chillar i think in these lok sabha election INLD candidate comes second
on every lok sabha seat in haryana & if i am not wrong
the total number of votes INLD get on 10 loksbha seats in haryana is near about 14-15 lakh ... i dont think :confused: a polotical party which gets 14-15 lakh votes ..is no more :confused::confused::confused:

Mayawati got more votes than INLD+BJP combined in haryana.
 
Mayawati got more votes than INLD+BJP combined in haryana.
vikas ji , ye BSP ka vote percentage INLD se jyaada hain ak dono INLD + BJP ke votes se jyaaada hain ? ....bakki bhai ya khabar pher ta padiye aur khud bhi hisaab la ke dekhiye
 
This news was all over the media after the results ..and I sincerely believe that the simple math was done before these statistics were displayed

technically the opposition is bhajan lal's party now and as for vote percentage, even if BSP is more than INLD alone, then what? Is that a 'saving grace' for the Chautala goons on this website? (either ways I have better things to do than add all the votes of various candidates. Without the maths, I do know that INLD=0=BJP and they are so technically not even the opposition!)

I believe it is high time that everyone moved on to something more constructive in life. If these chamchaas don't leave their delusions of grandeur, another elections (assembly) will jolt them pretty hard again and that too pretty soon!

Good Luck!!
 
This news was all over the media after the results ..and I sincerely believe that the simple math was done before these statistics were displayed

technically the opposition is bhajan lal's party now and as for vote percentage, even if BSP is more than INLD alone, then what? Is that a 'saving grace' for the Chautala goons on this website? (either ways I have better things to do than add all the votes of various candidates. Without the maths, I do know that INLD=0=BJP and they are so technically not even the opposition!)

I believe it is high time that everyone moved on to something more constructive in life. If these chamchaas don't leave their delusions of grandeur, another elections (assembly) will jolt them pretty hard again and that too pretty soon!

Good Luck!!


vikas bhai nue sochta ho ki tu hi ghana gyani h .....t va baat nyarii h ar rahi baat chamche ki t bhai sun .........chamchagiirii na t kari ar na karannn ....bhai party gel dil t judd re s ......na ki .....tharee bargyaan ki dhal ki aaj congress s to congress ki jai bol do INLD s too INLD ki jai bol do or rahi election ki baat t bhai ke bera hatke bhi na bane baat
ya t bhai janta h agar samjh m aavegi t vote geregi ar nahi aavegi t nahi geregii ........ar bhai ....aage t thodaa sahi saa likh ke bolyaa kar bhai
ke bera koi terete bhi 2 kadam aage ka aaja voo or bhunda bol de

ar tu nyu sochta ho ki tanee ye baat likh ke hum dhoo/ya point mar diye diye t nyu la liye tu razii rehna chahiyee ..mahri t dekhi jagii.........

parnam
 
Vivek:

Who told you that I favor Congress right now or favored it earlier?

Do not start assuming things here. I Was not and Am not a fan of either congress or INLD.

All I am trying to do is to call Spade a Spade.

There is a difference in being 'attached' to a party and being obsessed with any one party or leader in life. People like you are dangerous to the society as they do not know how to discriminate between delusions and reality.

The show is over my friend, and your 'leader' has lost in a miserable manner. So accept it gracefully and try to do something constructive that might help you and/ or your leader in the future. A 'Dalit' lady who is not even from haryana got more votes in Haryana than your 'great' leader Chautala. Now that fact will remain as it is whether you are happy or not about it.

Your partys leader Sampat singh had something to say about the party and that is what we were discussing here. If your own party people do not have faith in their own party and its leadership, who else will.

And lastly the 'Juntaa' or 'Public' is not as imbecile as what you think. Their vote pattern is not a gamble like dice throws. By saying that : Public ka kya pataa, are you trying to say that the entire population of Haryana is foolish and that is why they don't know who to vote for? Are you the only truthfull 'Gyaani' here?




bhai party gel dil t judd re s ......na ki .....tharee bargyaan ki dhal ki aaj congress s to congress ki jai bol do INLD s too INLD ki jai bol do or rahi election ki baat t bhai ke bera hatke bhi na bane baat
ya t bhai janta h agar samjh m aavegi t vote geregi ar nahi aavegi t nahi geregii ........ar bhai ....aage t thodaa sahi saa likh ke bolyaa kar bhai
ke bera koi terete bhi 2 kadam aage ka aaja voo or bhunda bol de
ar tu nyu sochta ho ki tanee ye baat likh ke hum dhoo/ya point mar diye diye t nyu la liye tu razii rehna chahiyee ..mahri t dekhi jagii.........

parnam
 
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