Hukkah Smoking : is it better than Cigarrette?

[yudhvirmor]

Learn from Singapore

Meera first of all thanks for a good post.
But I differ on the point highlighted above. Does the author think people who can read don't smoke? Do they take the warning seriously?? Perhaps not. Even the pictorial representation won't help to reduce the number of smokers. Smoking is a huge problem in our country. Even after passing laws you can see people smoking people at public places.

Some people smoke for stress relief, some for leisure, some think that it is a status symbol. Children at young age perhaps think on the latter part and thats the age where parents need to be cautious for their child. If they are able to stop their child from smoking at early age, I think the count of smokers will reduce drastically. It is not the warning presentation which is not able to control the smoke chain, but the guidance of individuals on how they percieve the things in front of them and their intution.

It has no relation to background whether rural or urban. People in rural areas die due to lack of medical facilities rather than any other reason.

I think best way to discourage people from smoking is to make it a luxury item and taxed it like hell. In singapore, Malbaro costs around 14 SGD (500 Rs). They have very strict restrictions in terms of cigarette smuggling. Singapore is the only country where you can't bring in duty-free cigarette. You need to pay duty on cigarette. I think we may need to do the same.
I know lots of efforts are required to implement it.Govt. also need to increase the duty on Bidi and other tobacco products.. In our Country, Biggest killer is Bidi not cigarettes.
Alternative way to discourage new smokers is to Promote Sports..

 

[aryasatyadev]

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Thanks Meera ji, for such detailed and informative reply.
Yes, I do agree and many among us will agree that smoking is a bad habbit and one should not resort to it for whatever reason they might think fit.
We know that both Hokkah and Cigarrette are devils, but by this thread we wanna discuss what is lesser devil among the two.......
Thanks for your comments, keep posting......

 

[aryasatyadev]

I think best way to discourage people from smoking is to make it a luxury item and taxed it like hell. In singapore, Malbaro costs around 14 SGD (500 Rs). They have very strict restrictions in terms of cigarette smuggling. Singapore is the only country where you can't bring in duty-free cigarette. You need to pay duty on cigarette. I think we may need to do the same.
I know lots of efforts are required to implement it.Govt. also need to increase the duty on Bidi and other tobacco products.. In our Country, Biggest killer is Bidi not cigarettes.
Alternative way to discourage new smokers is to Promote Sports..

Very informative post indeed, however the govt is already increasing duty every year on cigarrettes only, it is not increasing on Bidi or other tobacco products with the arguement that these are being used by common men and hence cant be made costlier.....

 

[ajaysinghkundu]

I think best way to discourage people from smoking is to make it a luxury item and taxed it like hell. In singapore, Malbaro costs around 14 SGD (500 Rs). They have very strict restrictions in terms of cigarette smuggling. Singapore is the only country where you can't bring in duty-free cigarette. You need to pay duty on cigarette. I think we may need to do the same.
I know lots of efforts are required to implement it.Govt. also need to increase the duty on Bidi and other tobacco products.. In our Country, Biggest killer is Bidi not cigarettes.
Alternative way to discourage new smokers is to Promote Sports..

Very good suggestion yudhvir bhai................ ek baar to strict hona hi chahiye govt ko.... but hamari to govt. mein se bhi 50% se upar log tobacco-lovers milenge

 

[aryasatyadev]

Very good suggestion yudhvir bhai................ ek baar to strict hona hi chahiye govt ko.... but hamari to govt. mein se bhi 50% se upar log tobacco-lovers milenge

बात सिर्फ टोबाको लवर होने की नहीं है भाई साब, बात ये है की टोबाको products से सरकार को बहुत ज्यादा आमदनी होती है, और ये पैसा बाकि के विकास कार्यों में काम आता है, इसमें सरकार के साथ साथ आम जनता को भी सोचना चाहिए के उनके लिए क्या सही है और क्या गलत, हर बात में सरकार ही सब कुछ नहीं कर सकती

 

[yudhvirmor]

बात सिर्फ टोबाको लवर होने की नहीं है भाई साब, बात ये है की टोबाको products से सरकार को बहुत ज्यादा आमदनी होती है, और ये पैसा बाकि के विकास कार्यों में काम आता है, इसमें सरकार के साथ साथ आम जनता को भी सोचना चाहिए के उनके लिए क्या सही है और क्या गलत, हर बात में सरकार ही सब कुछ नहीं कर सकती

Bhai sahab vikas ke liye paise kamane ke liye bahut resource hain.. Gujarat is finest example.. Govt doesn't earn revenues from liquor but still its most progressive Indian state and has best infrastructure.

 

[ajaysinghkundu]

Dont u think smoking agarbatti is the best !!!!!

 

[aryasatyadev]

Dont u think smoking agarbatti is the best !!!!!

Yes, it will help you reach Nirvana

Bhai sahab vikas ke liye paise kamane ke liye bahut resource hain.. Gujarat is finest example.. Govt doesn't earn revenues from liquor but still its most progressive Indian state and has best infrastructure.

But Yudhvir bhai, the geographic and other factors are contributing to the progress of Gujrat, and although this is off topic, but haven't we all seen the debacle of governmants in Haryana and Andhra Pradesh after prohibition on liquor.

 

[malikdeepak1]

but haven't we all seen the debacle of governmants in Haryana and Andhra Pradesh after prohibition on liquor.

Bhaisaab I'm not aware of Andhra but in Haryana I can say, it was not implemented properly. It was a very good move by Bansilal to ban liquor in state, but it failed since he was not able to control the illegal inflow of liquor in haryana from other adjacent states. People who made most out of this ban were truck drivers. They used to carry liquor hidden along with their own 'samaan' and then sell it at a very high price. Government faced huge problem in controlling this inflow of liquor. Hence this step failed for Bansilal which also resulted in Rs. 800 crore revenue loss per year for the govt. Had that ban been successfull, we might have witnessed some other situation than what we are seeing currently.

Guajrat on other hand has developed mostly because it has got some Ports and harbours which help companies a lot. They can import or export with a reduced transportation cost. If a company has to get soem raw material from say Kandla to Gurgaon, it will result in additonal transportation cost for it than if it had its production unit in Ahmedabad. Hence govt. of Gujarat earns more revenue from Ports and Harbours. it has got alternate for liquor to generate revenue. But in haryan this was not the case. I totally agree with You that Geographic factors do play a big part in a state's economy.

 

[yudhvirmor]

Bhaisaab I'm not aware of Andhra but in Haryana I can say, it was not implemented properly. It was a very good move by Bansilal to ban liquor in state, but it failed since he was not able to control the illegal inflow of liquor in haryana from other adjacent states. People who made most out of this ban were truck drivers. They used to carry liquor hidden along with their own 'samaan' and then sell it at a very high price. Government faced huge problem in controlling this inflow of liquor. Hence this step failed for Bansilal which also resulted in Rs. 800 crore revenue loss per year for the govt. Had that ban been successfull, we might have witnessed some other situation than what we are seeing currently.

Guajrat on other hand has developed mostly because it has got some Ports and harbours which help companies a lot. They can import or export with a reduced transportation cost. If a company has to get soem raw material from say Kandla to Gurgaon, it will result in additonal transportation cost for it than if it had its production unit in Ahmedabad. Hence govt. of Gujarat earns more revenue from Ports and Harbours. it has got alternate for liquor to generate revenue. But in haryan this was not the case. I totally agree with You that Geographic factors do play a big part in a state's economy.

Malik Sahab I don't want to divert from topic.. Maharastra, Andhra pardesh, Tamil Nadu, West Bengal and Orissa also have ports and harbors. Most these states failed to create that kind of infrastructure for their people.

Govt. has to understand that they have many sources of income to improve the infrastructure.
Regards,
Yudhvir Mor

 

[navdeepbudhwar]

i dont noe much bt now a dayz a filtered hukka [known as sisha] is also available at sm hangout places.....
it is flavoured hukka ... anyone cn choose it's flavour according to his taste...
it is free from any side effects and it also used to overcome tension and provides relife from stress and fatique..
there is growing craze of flavoured hukka among teenagers....

 

[aryasatyadev]

i dont noe much bt now a dayz a filtered hukka [known as sisha] is also available at sm hangout places.....
It is flavoured hukka ... Anyone cn choose it's flavour according to his taste...
it is free from any side effects and it also used to overcome tension and provides relife from stress and fatique..
there is growing craze of flavoured hukka among teenagers....

भाई सोनीपत कुरुक्षेत्र के एरिया में किते पाया जाया करे के यो. हो ते भाई हमने भी बताइए

 

[navdeepbudhwar]

भाई सोनीपत कुरुक्षेत्र के एरिया में किते पाया जाया करे के यो. हो ते भाई हमने भी बताइए

haan bhai yahan kurukshetra mai chaudhary hooka louge hai brahmsarovar vali road pe...salarpur road ki taraf sunaya hai vahan milya kare.........
arr agar kadi delhi ka geda lage to khan market ya GK mai kai jagah milta hai.....

 

[aryasatyadev]

haan bhai yahan kurukshetra mai chaudhary hooka louge hai brahmsarovar vali road pe...salarpur road ki taraf sunaya hai vahan milya kare.........
arr agar kadi delhi ka geda lage to khan market ya GK mai kai jagah milta hai.....

Thanks for the info Navdeep........

 

[rekharathee]

haan bhai yahan kurukshetra mai chaudhary hooka louge hai brahmsarovar vali road pe...salarpur road ki taraf sunaya hai vahan milya kare.........
arr agar kadi delhi ka geda lage to khan market ya GK mai kai jagah milta hai.....

arr IIT k shaami safdarjung enclave market mein b hai ek barista k dhorre

 

[aryasatyadev]

haan bhai yahan kurukshetra mai chaudhary hooka louge hai brahmsarovar vali road pe...salarpur road ki taraf sunaya hai vahan milya kare.........
arr agar kadi delhi ka geda lage to khan market ya GK mai kai jagah milta hai.....

arr IIT k shaami safdarjung enclave market mein b hai ek barista k dhorre

This shows that the govt. of Delhi, which is seemingly opposed to sale of tobbacco and tobbacco related products and specially to smoking at public places, is encouraging Hokkah......... so does it think that Hokkah doesn't comes under the category of Smoking or is it better than Cigarretta???

 

[navdeepbudhwar]

This shows that the govt. of Delhi, which is seemingly opposed to sale of tobbacco and tobbacco related products and specially to smoking at public places, is encouraging Hokkah......... so does it think that Hokkah doesn't comes under the category of Smoking or is it better than Cigarretta???

satya dev ji.....is flavoured hookah mai koi tobacco nai use hota.....
ye nai technology ka hookah hota hai....iss mai flavoure aur sath mai liquid jaise water,coldrink,bear or wine...ye sb dalta hai....

ye iska flavour ka box hai....is mai kai flavour aate hai...

this is modern hookah....it is very diffrent from that hookah which is used in villages or in chaupals....


liquid is filled in the lower part (bottle type)
and flavour is filled in upper part and charkol is kept in upper most part .charcoal is covered with alluminium foil..
and from pipe smoke is inhaled.

the hookah having bear or wine does the same work as that of hookah using tobacco.

ypu can find this type of hookah just in 1000 rs from GK,or khan market..
one pack of flavour will be enough for a month.

 

[akshaymalik84]

Dont u think smoking agarbatti is the best !!!!!

hahaha..........AJ.......agarbatti......dhooma to wa bhi thawe e hai.....per sayad us me nasha na hota hoga...na to log usne ne bhi peen lag jate....
Mera ek dost hai ...chain smoker.....wo kaha kare...

A cigarette is the perfect type of a perfect pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more can one want?........

Baaki bhai jo piwe hai un ne bera hoga...

 

[jakharanil]

Hokkah is an integral part of our custom and tradition and finds place in every home. Yes, we know that smokong tobbacco is bad but when we tell this to our elders they says that the water in the hookah filters out all the "bad stuff" in the tobacco smoke.

While discussing with one of my doctor friend he said that the tobacco is no less toxic. Hookah smokers actually inhale more tobacco smoke than do cigarette smokers because of the massive volume of smoke they inhale.

So, is it better than cigarrette or equally worse???

i dont no which i better, bt people says HOOKAH is more healthy. there is a customized social reasons, HOOKAH attached the society and make a platform discussions.:rock

 

[aryasatyadev]

i dont no which i better, bt people says HOOKAH is more healthy. there is a customized social reasons, HOOKAH attached the society and make a platform discussions.:rock

Right Jakhar bhai, a person usually smokes a cigarrette in solitude, and this many times leads to dipresing thoughts, whereas hokkah is a thing of group, resulting in people coming together and discussing the personnel as well as social problems...... this helps in relieving them of dipressing thoughts, and hence improving health