I personally not in favor of any such body but it would still be a better options than having thousands of these khaps floating around without any accountability.
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jat movemment very urgent to save our heritage
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i dont know much about Khaps, but I think in every city we do have Jat samaj which is represented by better people... I feel very embarrassed when I see the news of honor killings in our community but can't do much about those despicable people... Those people don't represent the better half of Jats...
upendersingh
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I think, all we need is to educate the people and ask them to grow up. Any body of Jats is not enforceable on anyone..
This so called education and growing up says that all human beings are equal in this world. All's blood is red, so there is no harm to marry even in same gotra or in other caste. Literacy rate is very high in west and so is divorce rate.
One of the main causes for such same gotra marriages is this damn education as well. I think parents (Jats) should teach their children time to time about the traditions and rules of the community. If this kind of education was meant, then I second.
It is one's insult if one marries his daughter in other caste, but it is one's victory if one marries the other caste's girl. It is not my thinking, it is world's thinking. Earlier Muslim rulers of medieval India liked to marry Hindu girls and loser Hindu Kings offered their daughter's hand into the hand of victor King. You must not ever heard that any King got defeated and gave his son's hand into the hand of victor King's daughter. Still, in present, Muslims like to marry Hindu girls, but don't like to marry their girls in Hindus. This is cruel world. Too much humbleness may prove fatal in this world as far as I think. Though others' views may differ.
Dear VP, i respect your views about khaps, but have the khaps ever intervened when Jats marry in other castes, NO!!, They intervene only when the root issues of our caste are touched,
We have to educate our generations, by not supporting these mistakes.
जिस गाम मैं कोई एक खाप बड़ी सै वो अपने लड़के किसी गोत मै ब्याह लें सें चाहे उस गोत के कई घर उनके गाम मैं हों . पर अगर दुसरे भाई जो मिनोरिटी में हैं वो उन बड़ी खाप की कोई लड़की ब्याह के दुसरे/दूर के गाम तैं ले आवें तो तालिबानी फरमान जरी कर दे सें बड़ी खाप के चोधरी. यह कहाँ तक न्यायसंगत है. क्या हम सब अपनी अपनी खाप मैं जाकर बस जाएँ और नई सीमा रेखाएं खीच लें. क्या ये bullying जायज है ?
rakeshsehrawat
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वि पि सिंह जी आप उम्र में मेरे तें बहोत बड़े हो पर आपकी इस बात से मुझे सिर्फ एक बात समझ आती है की आपको गाँव के समाज का जरा भी ज्ञान नहीं है ! ये बात जो अपने कही की गाँव में बड़ा गोत्र होने से छोटे गोत्र वाले से शादी कर लेते हैं ! इसका असली कारण ये नहीं की वो अपना दबदबा रखते हैं इसका असली कारण ये है की वो २-४ घर उस गाँव वालो के नहीं होते ! कोई बेऔलाद मर जाये तो जमीन उसके भांजे/बहन को चली जाती है ! फिर एक दो पीढ़ी बाद उनके २ घर हो जाते हैं पर उसका ये मतलब नहीं की उनका गोत्र छोड़ा जायेगा ! ये गोत्र छोड़ने की पर्थ अज नहीं बनी हर गाँव में ये बात बुजुर्गो ने मिल के बनाई थी !अगर आज कोई आपके गाँव में जमीन खरीद लेता है तो उसका ये मतलब नहीं की हम उनका गोत्र छोड़ देंगे !ये भाईचारे किसी गाँव के बसने पर बनते हैं न की समय समय के साथ सबको इसमें जोड़ते जाते हैं ! मेरे गों में मोखरा का एक परिवार है जिसका गोत्र मालिक है मेरे गाँव में एक परिवार हूडा गोत्र का भी है और मेरी माँ हूडा है! ये बात मैंने भी पूछी थी और जो जवाब मिला वो आपको बता रहा हूँ ! किसी भी बात की गहराई आपको इन्टरनेट पर नहीं मिलेगी!
samarkadian
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Neo-Liberals are wayward confused morons and venal than counterpart conservatives when it comes to understanding of tradition, values versus life style and standards. Ironically, they are raised up in science era but totally lack that scientific rationale. Change with time doesn't mean alteration of tradition in sync with alien cultures.
drkisorrepaswal
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Greetings from Moscow
Dear Anil Sangwan saheb
You are absolutely right.Parents should not Punish in their children mistakes by Village Panvhyats.
Dear Anil Sangwan saheb
You are absolutely right.Parents should not Punish in their children mistakes by Village Panvhyats.
वि पि सिंह जी आप उम्र में मेरे तें बहोत बड़े हो पर आपकी इस बात से मुझे सिर्फ एक बात समझ आती है की आपको गाँव के समाज का जरा भी ज्ञान नहीं है ! ये बात जो अपने कही की गाँव में बड़ा गोत्र होने से छोटे गोत्र वाले से शादी कर लेते हैं ! इसका असली कारण ये नहीं की वो अपना दबदबा रखते हैं इसका असली कारण ये है की वो २-४ घर उस गाँव वालो के नहीं होते ! कोई बेऔलाद मर जाये तो जमीन उसके भांजे/बहन को चली जाती है ! फिर एक दो पीढ़ी बाद उनके २ घर हो जाते हैं पर उसका ये मतलब नहीं की उनका गोत्र छोड़ा जायेगा ! ये गोत्र छोड़ने की पर्थ अज नहीं बनी हर गाँव में ये बात बुजुर्गो ने मिल के बनाई थी !अगर आज कोई आपके गाँव में जमीन खरीद लेता है तो उसका ये मतलब नहीं की हम उनका गोत्र छोड़ देंगे !ये भाईचारे किसी गाँव के बसने पर बनते हैं न की समय समय के साथ सबको इसमें जोड़ते जाते हैं ! मेरे गों में मोखरा का एक परिवार है जिसका गोत्र मालिक है मेरे गाँव में एक परिवार हूडा गोत्र का भी है और मेरी माँ हूडा है! ये बात मैंने भी पूछी थी और जो जवाब मिला वो आपको बता रहा हूँ ! किसी भी बात की गहराई आपको इन्टरनेट पर नहीं मिलेगी!
हाँ भाई राकेश तेरी यह बात नहीं मानूंगा के गामा के बारे में जानकारी कम सै. मेरे यार १६ साल तक वहीँ न खेले कूदे. इब भी रोज दैनिक जागरण पढूं सूं भाई इलाके की खबर पढ़न खातिर.
पर यह बता क्या इसे परिवार जो बहार से अ के बस गए ३०० साल पहले उनके कुछ अरमान और मर्यादाएं नहीं होती. जैसे देवदास फिल्म मैं चंदेर्मुखी नैं कहया था "क्या तवायफ का दिल नहीं होता".
मतलब यह हुआ किए जिसकी घने घर उन की ही भावनाओं का ख्याल रखना चाहिए. दूसरी खप के चाहे उस गाम मैं 20 घर हों. What a logic (sign of exclamation kit khoo kya bhai bera na).
We tend to interpret law according our conveniences.
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samarkadian
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हाँ भाई राकेश तेरी यह बात नहीं मानूंगा के गामा के बारे में जानकारी कम सै. मेरे यार १६ साल तक वहीँ न खेले कूदे. इब भी रोज दैनिक जागरण पढूं सूं भाई इलाके की खबर पढ़न खातिर.
पर यह बता क्या इसे परिवार जो बहार से अ के बस गए ३०० साल पहले उनके कुछ अरमान और मर्यादाएं नहीं होती. जैसे देवदास फिल्म मैं चंदेर्मुखी नैं कहया था "क्या तवायफ का दिल नहीं होता".
मतलब यह हुआ किए जिसकी घने घर उन की ही भावनाओं का ख्याल रखना चाहिए. दूसरी खप के चाहे उस गाम मैं 20 घर हों. वह क्या लोजिक है.
We tend to interpret law according our conveniences.
Sir, Law has been drafted some decades back as Hindu marriage act. It is the lack of law that it didnt assimilate and respected the millinium years old proven practises. If you like questioning things then do it un-discriminatively. I mean both traditions and marriage laws of Indian republic.
rakeshsehrawat
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पहली बार सुना की अपने कल्चर की जानकारी आपको जागरण से मिलती है ! दूसरी बात कल बिहारी आके आपके गाँव में रहने लगे तो क्या वो जाट हो जायेंगे या उनके गोत्र छोड़ने लगेंगे ? बाकी न्यू है जी आपने तो जाट समाज ए बावली बूच लगे है ! आड़े मानने कोए इसा एक नहीं मिला जो अपनी छोरी ने अपने छोटे भाई के बेटे के बियाह देगा ! आप अपवाद हो तो बेरा ना! दूसरी बात चाहे उन परिवारों का गोत्र ना छोड़ा जाता हो लेकिन उन परिवार वालो के साथ उस गाँव में कोई रिश्ता तो नहीं करता और अगर ऐसा होगा तो पंचायत उसकी भी खिलाफत करेगी !
Neo-Liberals are wayward confused morons and venal than counterpart conservatives when it comes to understanding of tradition, values versus life style and standards. Ironically, they are raised up in science era but totally lack that scientific rationale. Change with time doesn't mean alteration of tradition in sync with alien cultures.
Use of words like "morons" does not seem to be in good taste on the part of a person who happens to be a very responsible person in running of this portal. There is, however, no question mark on your vocabulary. Being very influential person on this site, you are, perhaps, entitled to go to any extent in using unparliamentary and filthy language.
I do not think any member on this site has endorsed the custom of marrying within the same gotra. Some of the members have simply condemned the killing in such matters. Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and none of us has a right to bully them by making derogatory remarks. To me you looked pretty confused on this subject. I really dont understand what message you want to convey. As usual your post seems to be suffocating under heavy load of your overly rich English deviating from the real issue.
पहली बार सुना की अपने कल्चर की जानकारी आपको जागरण से मिलती है ! दूसरी बात कल बिहारी आके आपके गाँव में रहने लगे तो क्या वो जाट हो जायेंगे या उनके गोत्र छोड़ने लगेंगे ? बाकी न्यू है जी आपने तो जाट समाज ए बावली बूच लगे है ! आड़े मानने कोए इसा एक नहीं मिला जो अपनी छोरी ने अपने छोटे भाई के बेटे के बियाह देगा ! आप अपवाद हो तो बेरा ना! दूसरी बात चाहे उन परिवारों का गोत्र ना छोड़ा जाता हो लेकिन उन परिवार वालो के साथ उस गाँव में कोई रिश्ता तो नहीं करता और अगर ऐसा होगा तो पंचायत उसकी भी खिलाफत करेगी !
Rakesh Bhai sorry I am facing some difficulty in Hindi font. Dainik Jagaran is the only newspaper to my knowledge which reaches to the bylanes of neglected villages covering smallest of the small news. (we all know the standard of the newspaper but there is no other such newspaper covering villages). You may suggest one, if you know any other source.
I am not talking about Bihari families. I am talking about the Jat families only who are by chance in minority in some villages but are entitled to the same respect and dignity as the major Khaps are. We are talking about Jat Bhai Chara. So we have to rise above these petty considerations by avoiding bullying the Jats in minority.
You read my earlier posts carefully. Have I ever endorsed the marriage within gotra for which you and some other journalists are unreasonably lambasting me. I have simply condemned the killing which I standby firmly. I reiterate, I have nowhere made my stand on gotra marriage clear and I want to keep my views reserved on this subject as this is a sensitive subject and might warrant so many bullets of venom. (I have, however, lot of arguments to bust the ghost of gotra factor. Have seen many respectable community leaders staring like wolves at innocent girls and bahu betian waiting at bus stands without distinguishing their gotra. Many of such innocent bahu betiyan happen to be from their own gotra.). I think, it is better to be silent on this subject.
In bold letters I clarify : I have not endorsed the same gotra marriage. But against the killing. Hope it is loud and crystal clear now.
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sunillathwal
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Neo-Liberals are wayward confused morons and venal than counterpart conservatives when it comes to understanding of tradition, values versus life style and standards. Ironically, they are raised up in science era but totally lack that scientific rationale. Change with time doesn't mean alteration of tradition in sync with alien cultures.
Totally agreed Samar. Change should be driven by the 'necessity' or 'convenience' of society of as a whole; NOT just because some[very very few] wayward kids happen to 'do' that.
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Very well said Samar, totally in sync with you here !
Being liberal doesn't mean we stop and criticize our social customs which are being practiced for ages. I agree that few of them need overhauling and need improvement with time but NOT ALL OF THEM. This Gotra avoidance custom is one of them and I support it strongly cuz' there're scientific reasons behind it. If you have heard of 'Genetic Engineering' then you will realize how important it to maintain n' improve gene pool in coming generation . Looks like these Neo-Liberals forgot their roots n' in confusion supporting the wrong.
I agree that few of customs need overhauling and margin of improvement is always there, like this bhaichara thingy between gotras. But it doesn't mean all of the customs are bad n' obsolete.
N' stop criticizing Khaps n' Panchayats they're not the one who committed this gruesome crime of killing the couple, it was the family of respective who actually are the culprits. Man is a social animal and he has to live with few constraints, social norms and customs. Khaps/Panchayat are the governing bodies and made to give life to society. These media, pseudo n neo liberal Jats and modern ppl just got no idea how it operates, they should go back to their roots and understand it better. Btw, it doesn't mean I support killing of any kind, be it honor or other, its a heinous crime!
I dont get how can a boy fall in luv with same gotra girl or vice-versa, may be there was some fault in their upbringing. Whenever I meet a Takhar, Punia or Aichra girl .. brotherly feeling automatically comes in, why so? cuz I respect our social norms, family values and am proud to be a Jat.
We must grow, progress and ascend with the time but it doesn't mean we forget our roots, basic values and our identity.
Cheers
Jit
Very well said Samar, totally in sync with you here !
Being liberal doesn't mean we stop and criticize our social customs which are being practiced for ages. I agree that few of them need overhauling and need improvement with time but NOT ALL OF THEM. This Gotra avoidance custom is one of them and I support it strongly cuz' there're scientific reasons behind it. If you have heard of 'Genetic Engineering' then you will realize how important it to maintain n' improve gene pool in coming generation . Looks like these Neo-Liberals forgot their roots n' in confusion supporting the wrong.
I agree that few of customs need overhauling and margin of improvement is always there, like this bhaichara thingy between gotras. But it doesn't mean all of the customs are bad n' obsolete.
N' stop criticizing Khaps n' Panchayats they're not the one who committed this gruesome crime of killing the couple, it was the family of respective who actually are the culprits. Man is a social animal and he has to live with few constraints, social norms and customs. Khaps/Panchayat are the governing bodies and made to give life to society. These media, pseudo n neo liberal Jats and modern ppl just got no idea how it operates, they should go back to their roots and understand it better. Btw, it doesn't mean I support killing of any kind, be it honor or other, its a heinous crime!
I dont get how can a boy fall in luv with same gotra girl or vice-versa, may be there was some fault in their upbringing. Whenever I meet a Takhar, Punia or Aichra girl .. brotherly feeling automatically comes in, why so? cuz I respect our social norms, family values and am proud to be a Jat.
We must grow, progress and ascend with the time but it doesn't mean we forget our roots, basic values and our identity.
Cheers
Jit
Neo-Liberals are wayward confused morons and venal than counterpart conservatives when it comes to understanding of tradition, values versus life style and standards. Ironically, they are raised up in science era but totally lack that scientific rationale. Change with time doesn't mean alteration of tradition in sync with alien cultures.
rakeshsehrawat
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इतना ध्यान तें पढ़न का कीमे होता भी ना आपकी पोस्ट में आपने कदे खुद का लिखा दोबारा पढ़ा है ?
दूसरी बात आपने न्यू नहीं बेरा की गाम में बियाह में कुनसे गोत्र छुटेंगे कुनसे नहीं और उसके पीछे क्या कारन है तो बात करना ही बेकार है ! आपका गोत्र आपके गाँव में छोटा लगता है मुझे अगर आप गहराई में जायेंगे तो बस येही पाएंगे की आपकी चार पीढ़ी ही इस गाँव की हैं और १००० घर में से सिर्फ आपके १० घर हैं तो ऐसे के लिए कोई भी अपने बचो के गोत्र नहीं छोड़ेगा ! हाँ इसा कोए घेती में गुथा नहीं देता जब वो उस गाँव के हैं ही नहीं तो वो लोग गाँव छोड़ कर उस गोत्र में शादी कर सकते हैं लेकिन जब एक गाँव का गोत्र बाहुल्य का है तो वो उस गोत्र की बेटी अपने गाँव में कैसे आने देंगे और जो उस गाँव के असल रिहायशी नहीं वो कैसे किसी को ऐसे रोक सकते हैं ! गाँव में एक खेडा नाम की चीज़ होती है आप इस चीज़ पर कोई परकाश डालेंगे आपके जागरण में इस शब्द को बहुत इस्तेमाल किया जाता है ! दूसरी बात में पत्रकार नहीं मुझे अपने समाज की जानकारी अपने परिवार और समाज से मिली है अख़बार से नहीं आज भी में अपने गाँव से जुड़ा हुआ हूँ !
दूसरी बात आपने न्यू नहीं बेरा की गाम में बियाह में कुनसे गोत्र छुटेंगे कुनसे नहीं और उसके पीछे क्या कारन है तो बात करना ही बेकार है ! आपका गोत्र आपके गाँव में छोटा लगता है मुझे अगर आप गहराई में जायेंगे तो बस येही पाएंगे की आपकी चार पीढ़ी ही इस गाँव की हैं और १००० घर में से सिर्फ आपके १० घर हैं तो ऐसे के लिए कोई भी अपने बचो के गोत्र नहीं छोड़ेगा ! हाँ इसा कोए घेती में गुथा नहीं देता जब वो उस गाँव के हैं ही नहीं तो वो लोग गाँव छोड़ कर उस गोत्र में शादी कर सकते हैं लेकिन जब एक गाँव का गोत्र बाहुल्य का है तो वो उस गोत्र की बेटी अपने गाँव में कैसे आने देंगे और जो उस गाँव के असल रिहायशी नहीं वो कैसे किसी को ऐसे रोक सकते हैं ! गाँव में एक खेडा नाम की चीज़ होती है आप इस चीज़ पर कोई परकाश डालेंगे आपके जागरण में इस शब्द को बहुत इस्तेमाल किया जाता है ! दूसरी बात में पत्रकार नहीं मुझे अपने समाज की जानकारी अपने परिवार और समाज से मिली है अख़बार से नहीं आज भी में अपने गाँव से जुड़ा हुआ हूँ !
Let me make my point of view loud and clear again before people start shouting or start suggesting some marriage tips for my family. I am all against this same gotra marriage. Two or three avoidable gotras ( as per their family customs but not according to any villege or KHAP RULES) should be avoided while considering a marriage relationship. Rest things are optionals and shouldn't be forced on ANYONE.
I wonder when no one is advocating marriage in same gotra here but still people are suggesting to marry their daughters in their own families, just for the sake of arguments. Stub born word seems to be redefined.
It is very interesting to observe that families living in a village since hundreds of years are still considered Aliens 'as per Khap Rules' just because they didn't located that villege initially. Historian says that Delhi was located by Tomar Jats originally. So other gotra's of Delhi are outsiders but i never saw any Tomar girl who got married to a Delhi Jat boy came across any fatwa.
Thousands of years back a few people located a place, named it a villege and started living there. Later people from other gotra joined them that makes a perfect villege. Now, who is the owner of the villege. The locator of the villege or the people living there. Do these people have different set of Rights on the villege issues ?
And if that are norms for the jat community then why it is not uniform in overall Jat dominated area. Why it is limited to a very minor area as compared to vastly polulated Overall Jat area in India. Is jat pride depends upon the norms practiced by 'jat people of few districts' ?
I never came across a villege who have some Gotra. Instead some villeges have majority of some specific gotra and that doesn't provide any authority to 'them' to make rules for the villege. If they do so than it is clearly a case of might is right. If people feel mighty by supressing their own fellow community members than be happy with the deception and keep feeling proudy as the mightest race on this planet.
I wonder when no one is advocating marriage in same gotra here but still people are suggesting to marry their daughters in their own families, just for the sake of arguments. Stub born word seems to be redefined.
It is very interesting to observe that families living in a village since hundreds of years are still considered Aliens 'as per Khap Rules' just because they didn't located that villege initially. Historian says that Delhi was located by Tomar Jats originally. So other gotra's of Delhi are outsiders but i never saw any Tomar girl who got married to a Delhi Jat boy came across any fatwa.
Thousands of years back a few people located a place, named it a villege and started living there. Later people from other gotra joined them that makes a perfect villege. Now, who is the owner of the villege. The locator of the villege or the people living there. Do these people have different set of Rights on the villege issues ?
And if that are norms for the jat community then why it is not uniform in overall Jat dominated area. Why it is limited to a very minor area as compared to vastly polulated Overall Jat area in India. Is jat pride depends upon the norms practiced by 'jat people of few districts' ?
I never came across a villege who have some Gotra. Instead some villeges have majority of some specific gotra and that doesn't provide any authority to 'them' to make rules for the villege. If they do so than it is clearly a case of might is right. If people feel mighty by supressing their own fellow community members than be happy with the deception and keep feeling proudy as the mightest race on this planet.
kusumdhochak
New member
The court's judgment is very important. Although capital punishment may seem too much but they deserve severe punishment. This will deter people from doing such things in future.
Pasting from my post in other forum. Thought it will be relevant here:
1) Passing such rules as leave the village/ break the marriage etc are not ever going to solve this problem and will just end up ruining/ending some lives which is by no means something that can be ignored.
2) The problem of same village marriages is not going to be a big happening/problem anytime soon. And it can be limited very easily by just making the kids aware of the culture.
3) Not allowing marriages in a different village which has same gotra is something which we really should now give up for the sake of betterment of society as there is no way of logically defending it and it is not doing any good to anyone and there is no reason for any fear as there are societies which don't have such rules and are happy, prosperous, civilized, educated without suffering any harms. There have been many instances in history when several of customs and beliefs had to be changed according to the need of time and logic (for example purda which is again a custom doing no good to anyone (quite a lot of harm though) and cannot be continued just for the sake of customs).
4) Regarding love marriages, which people think should be broken because of the gotra problems..
Love marriages are not at all easy to make and it is generally very very difficult to find someone whom you feel you love and can take a decision to spend whole life togther. There are so many people who would like find that person but their surroundings won't have such people. And those lucky ones who are able to find one, please let them live happily. They won't get that chance again. Otherwise why would people want to stick to the people they love despite so much harassment coming from all sides.
Pasting from my post in other forum. Thought it will be relevant here:
1) Passing such rules as leave the village/ break the marriage etc are not ever going to solve this problem and will just end up ruining/ending some lives which is by no means something that can be ignored.
2) The problem of same village marriages is not going to be a big happening/problem anytime soon. And it can be limited very easily by just making the kids aware of the culture.
3) Not allowing marriages in a different village which has same gotra is something which we really should now give up for the sake of betterment of society as there is no way of logically defending it and it is not doing any good to anyone and there is no reason for any fear as there are societies which don't have such rules and are happy, prosperous, civilized, educated without suffering any harms. There have been many instances in history when several of customs and beliefs had to be changed according to the need of time and logic (for example purda which is again a custom doing no good to anyone (quite a lot of harm though) and cannot be continued just for the sake of customs).
4) Regarding love marriages, which people think should be broken because of the gotra problems..
Love marriages are not at all easy to make and it is generally very very difficult to find someone whom you feel you love and can take a decision to spend whole life togther. There are so many people who would like find that person but their surroundings won't have such people. And those lucky ones who are able to find one, please let them live happily. They won't get that chance again. Otherwise why would people want to stick to the people they love despite so much harassment coming from all sides.
rakeshsehrawat
New member
चाचा ताऊ के छोरे छोरियाँ का भी आपस में प्यार होवे है फेर क्यूँ नहीं उनका बियाह करवा देते ?
मुसलमाना आला सिस्टम चोखा फेर इस्ते तो तीन बार कबूल कबूल कह्य आर बियाह होया तीन बार तलक कहया आर चल दफा हो ! एक का ब्योंत हो एक रखो ५० का ब्योंत हो ५० !रोज मर्द को एक औरत से प्यार होता है और ये बात सब पर लागु होती है जब विश्वामित्र नहीं थम पाया तो म्हारी के बिसात लयन दयो फेर रोज एक नयी !
मीडिया की कहानी सुनके अर चल दे हैं मुह ठाके ! उन उल्लू के पाठय का न कोए धरम न जात जिसने म्हारे समाज का कीमे नहीं बेर जिसका मतलब बस इतना है की उसकी खबर फालतू क्यूकर बिकेगी वो आज खुदा हो गए !
जाट समाज के कानूनों में परिवर्तन की कोई जरूरत नहीं है बस जरूरत सिर्फ उनको समझने की है और उनके पीछे छुपे कारणों को जानने की है !
मुसलमाना आला सिस्टम चोखा फेर इस्ते तो तीन बार कबूल कबूल कह्य आर बियाह होया तीन बार तलक कहया आर चल दफा हो ! एक का ब्योंत हो एक रखो ५० का ब्योंत हो ५० !रोज मर्द को एक औरत से प्यार होता है और ये बात सब पर लागु होती है जब विश्वामित्र नहीं थम पाया तो म्हारी के बिसात लयन दयो फेर रोज एक नयी !
मीडिया की कहानी सुनके अर चल दे हैं मुह ठाके ! उन उल्लू के पाठय का न कोए धरम न जात जिसने म्हारे समाज का कीमे नहीं बेर जिसका मतलब बस इतना है की उसकी खबर फालतू क्यूकर बिकेगी वो आज खुदा हो गए !
जाट समाज के कानूनों में परिवर्तन की कोई जरूरत नहीं है बस जरूरत सिर्फ उनको समझने की है और उनके पीछे छुपे कारणों को जानने की है !
इतना ध्यान तें पढ़न का कीमे होता भी ना आपकी पोस्ट में आपने कदे खुद का लिखा दोबारा पढ़ा है ?
दूसरी बात आपने न्यू नहीं बेरा की गाम में बियाह में कुनसे गोत्र छुटेंगे कुनसे नहीं और उसके पीछे क्या कारन है तो बात करना ही बेकार है ! आपका गोत्र आपके गाँव में छोटा लगता है मुझे अगर आप गहराई में जायेंगे तो बस येही पाएंगे की आपकी चार पीढ़ी ही इस गाँव की हैं और १००० घर में से सिर्फ आपके १० घर हैं तो ऐसे के लिए कोई भी अपने बचो के गोत्र नहीं छोड़ेगा ! हाँ इसा कोए घेती में गुथा नहीं देता जब वो उस गाँव के हैं ही नहीं तो वो लोग गाँव छोड़ कर उस गोत्र में शादी कर सकते हैं लेकिन जब एक गाँव का गोत्र बाहुल्य का है तो वो उस गोत्र की बेटी अपने गाँव में कैसे आने देंगे और जो उस गाँव के असल रिहायशी नहीं वो कैसे किसी को ऐसे रोक सकते हैं ! गाँव में एक खेडा नाम की चीज़ होती है आप इस चीज़ पर कोई परकाश डालेंगे आपके जागरण में इस शब्द को बहुत इस्तेमाल किया जाता है ! दूसरी बात में पत्रकार नहीं मुझे अपने समाज की जानकारी अपने परिवार और समाज से मिली है अख़बार से नहीं आज भी में अपने गाँव से जुड़ा हुआ हूँ ![/QUOT
Yes, we had to migrate from our roots about 200 year back after killing of 6 bullies there. I find you highly rude and unreasonable. So no more interaction. I request you not to post any reply. If you do not find anyrthing in my post, I have even worse opinion about your post. Lets us stop commenting on each other. I am a Dhankhar and by no means a Dhankhar is inferior to any Sahrawat. So dont try to be a bully here. Do not boast of having your connection with villages. Everybody has connection with his or her village. Nothing new in it. When you were not even conceived, I had started attending village Panchayat.
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