Can bribery be stopped in our lifetime?

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CAN BRIBERY BE STOPPED IN OUR LIFETIME?
Since the dawn of independence Partitioned India has been clutched in the shackles of "National Nondescript characterlessness ". From top to bottom we encounter bribery-in every walk of life. Some even obstinately affirm if as vogue of the day. However reluctant you may be you shall have to pay bribe on one or the other occasion.

Today we just not only overhear people talk about this sinister smear and slur but also we vividly find people asking openly for bribe. In spite of becoming a national shame bribery has been gradually holding perfunctory place in our life. Who will bell the cat? What can be the practical means to end the curse of bribery?
I know that from cave to computer era, bribery has been in practice in one form or the other. But at the same time awareness and intelligence has also multiplied. How in some parts of the world people have succeeded in containing and curbing and perhaps eradicating this shameful blot on mankind.

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We haven't taken bribery seriously it seems. This may incommode us to acknowledge the fact that foreign intruders bribed and eventually conquered this wonderful land which had vast expanse from Kanyakumai to Laddakh, from Gujrat to far off regions in the North-East, touching borders of China, Nepal, Bhutan, Iran, Russia and other such countries which today seem far flung foreign areas.
Today in Partitioned India, are we enlightened enough not to repeat our old mistakes?
Regards.
 
No, it cannot be stopped in our life time because, no physical measure/rule etc can do the job. tHE CHANGE OF ATTITUDE TOWARDS LIFE, PHILOSOPHY OF LIFE ETC has to change of all the people through spiritual education which is not possible in our life time
 
Dear Bhai Fateh Singh
Thanks for your valuable suggestion. Now the question arises who will bring about change in our attitude towards life? How our philosophy of Life and life can be translated into more meaningful (I think CHARACTERFUL), fruitful and long lasting goals to uplift our National Character?
I read somewhere: "Real difficulties can be overcome; it is only the imaginary ones that are unconquerable". So by merely enacting Laws will not serve the purpose.
Plato rightly remarks: - Laws are partly formed for the sake of good men, in order to instruct them how they may live on friendly terms with one another, and partly for the sake of those who refuse to be instructed, whose spirit cannot be subdued, or softened, or hindered from plunging into evil.
I am hopeful, though it may be hoping against hope.
 
I agree with you . Ofcourse corruption can be cotrolled in a short period also provided we wants, dear, corruption is of many kind, at many places, so lot of efforts required. Basically corruption has entered in our minds, our minds are also polluted by religionalism, casteism, areaism, favouritism, goondaism and selfishness which further increases the corruption, ego, desire, possessiveness, competition etc are many reasons. Thus our minds have to be cleaned, our thinking has to change, out attitude towards life and various other aspects has to change. Not only Indian minds but even world population has to change, because world has become very small like a family. We must give corruption free examples in bringingup our children, clean our education institutions, employment system and improve governess/administration of all organisations/institutions, I fully agree with you that we have to have a posive mind in our efforts if wants success.
 
It is very well said that a corrupt person is not confined to any region, any area, any caste, any brotherhood. But corrupt have have unholy nexus. Here the offeror and the receiver both have vested interests. The former is tuned and becomes helpless whereas the latter is professionally corrupt.

In India, this is spreading in all walks of life. Normally the offeror of bribe reluctantly agrees to offer bribe as he/she is persuaded by his/her compatriots and is instructed vividly that nothing is going to happen until & unless bribe is paid-in cash or kind. We need to worry about our country. Because this blunt form of corruption leads us to abyss of loss of character and a nation becomes characterless its destruction will not be faraway. Evolution of mankind is continuous process. This phase of time is very crucial as our morals are on the decline. With positive optimistic approach we can surmount this evil. We need to eradicate corruption and its rudimentary cause BRIBE so that in our life time we should see India blooming into a characterful nation. Our coming generations will admire us.
 
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Mandeepji, in 1990 I was Director legal posted in DG NCC, also holdinf temp charge of MS BRANCH, which was dealing postings of various personnel, One NCC whole time officer came to me for help in his posting to a perticular place, his requewest was justified and I straightway said yes, but indidual was not believing me, I again tolled him that you relex your work will be done, he left my office but went to another officer for help, becuase he didnot believe my positive reply without any problem/demand, Thus I agree with you that this problem has really takenover our thinking, decisions and actions, something has to be done to save our society, the nation and our existence even.
 
mandeep333 said:
CAN BRIBERY BE STOPPED IN OUR LIFETIME?
Since the dawn of independence Partitioned India has been clutched in the shackles of "National Nondescript characterlessness ". From top to bottom we encounter bribery-in every walk of life. Some even obstinately affirm if as vogue of the day. However reluctant you may be you shall have to pay bribe on one or the other occasion.

Today we just not only overhear people talk about this sinister smear and slur but also we vividly find people asking openly for bribe. In spite of becoming a national shame bribery has been gradually holding perfunctory place in our life. Who will bell the cat? What can be the practical means to end the curse of bribery?
I know that from cave to computer era, bribery has been in practice in one form or the other. But at the same time awareness and intelligence has also multiplied. How in some parts of the world people have succeeded in containing and curbing and perhaps eradicating this shameful blot on mankind.

Has the time in Partitioned India not ripened to emancipate from this evil of bribery?View attachment 12731
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very well said mandeep bhai
our mids have been conditioned in such a way and as we grow the influence of religion and society goes on becoming even more pronounced. As jats we were supposed to be strong headed and stead fast, people from other communities never dared to offer bribes to a jat, neither they did expect any. Even we have given into this system and have succumbed to this conditioning of mind. its high time, that atleast we as a society must rise above these petty politics and stand for uprooting of this evil called corruption.
 
मुंबई में ऑटो रिक्सा आले भी शामिल होए थे माडे से दिन पहलम अन्ना के अनशन में | पाछले एक हफ्ते में आर.टी.ओ.ने छापे मारी करी | ८० % ऑटो के मीटर ३० % घणा किराया लेवें थे टेम्पर करे होड़ मीटरआँ तें | इब्ब तीन दिन तें हड़ताल कर रे सें अक म्हारे मीटर क्यूँ चेक करे | लो हटा लो भ्रष्टाचार |
 
It is feasible with a condition within doble quotes first "We should refrain ourselves from being a part of it" second "We should report others doing it".

Those who are saying it is not possible are wrong. My humble suggestion is that please you try it on yourself, you will see the change.


Stop blaming others and start acting.
 
Prikshit said:
It is feasible with a condition within doble quotes first "We should refrain ourselves from being a part of it" second "We should report others doing it".

Those who are saying it is not possible are wrong. My humble suggestion is that please you try it on yourself, you will see the change.


Stop blaming others and start acting.
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Dear, have you started, it good in theory, when start practice, you will realise, the question is weather corruption can be stopped in our life time, I said no because it takes long time and I donnot left with that much life.
 
Fateh ji me aapko kehne ke layak tabhi hota hun tab me khud us cheez ko follow karu.
Me kar raha hun to aap ko bta rha hun....Aap ye soch ki isme shudhar hone me time lagega to aap khud bhi badlav na laye ye samaj se pare hai.
Samay to har cheez me lagta h, is corruption se sirf paresan hone se kam nhi chalega.
Apni apni ladai sab ladenge to kafi hadd tak shudhar laya ja sakta h
 
My dear brother, I am also fighting this corruption on my level since 1964 when in college, even I have not bothered about carrier, but dear point was weather it can be eliminated within our life time, rest I understand. please try to understand.
 
Fateh ji...I know you are more experienced and rational compared to most of us younsters.
I am not here to counter your views, but what I feel is that this problems can better be solved at individual levels.

I hoper you agree to me on this.
 
I found Andrew Jackson's submission: "Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and its conscious that he gains protection while he gives it."

How many of us are falling in the category of "Good Citizen" as described above is really very important an significant question!

There is a basic law that like attracts like. Negative thinking definitely attracts negative results. Conversely, if a person habitually thinks optimistically and hopefully, his positive thinking sets in motion creative forces - and success. Therefore we oughtn't leave hope. Let us be optimistic & promising individuals.
 
Prikshit said:
Fateh ji...I know you are more experienced and rational compared to most of us younsters.
I am not here to counter your views, but what I feel is that this problems can better be solved at individual levels.

I hoper you agree to me on this.
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I fully agree with you. Mandeepji, normally nagetive people are not selected for defence officer. however, while discussing a topic one has to consider all aspects and it has nothing to do with anybodys personal life, Brother, believe me due to my anti corruption views, efforts and behaviour, my both children refused to try for civil cervices. Anyway, I agree with you that one shouldnot lose hope.
 
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mandeep333 said:
CAN BRIBERY BE STOPPED IN OUR LIFETIME?
Since the dawn of independence Partitioned India has been clutched in the shackles of "National Nondescript characterlessness ". From top to bottom we encounter bribery-in every walk of life. Some even obstinately affirm if as vogue of the day. However reluctant you may be you shall have to pay bribe on one or the other occasion.

Today we just not only overhear people talk about this sinister smear and slur but also we vividly find people asking openly for bribe. In spite of becoming a national shame bribery has been gradually holding perfunctory place in our life. Who will bell the cat? What can be the practical means to end the curse of bribery?
I know that from cave to computer era, bribery has been in practice in one form or the other. But at the same time awareness and intelligence has also multiplied. How in some parts of the world people have succeeded in containing and curbing and perhaps eradicating this shameful blot on mankind.

Has the time in Partitioned India not ripened to emancipate from this evil of bribery?View attachment 12731
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Yes bribery can be stopped..and very easily........There is a law in economics..."Supply creates its own demand". IF people stop giving bribes(supply) then no one would ask bribe(demand). We had started bribery and only we can stop it.
 
Brother, anything can be done if we all want, but problem here is that this desease has gone so deep and the population of our nation is so large that over night effect cannot be made, not only India but the thinking and practices in the whole world will effect our anti corruption efforts.Even for an individual it takes time to control his/her desire, greed etc. Brother in real sense it requires a long Tapshya/Bhagti to get out of these weaknesses of being, It requires a strong motivation of masses, the proper spiritual education of masses, the thinking/attitude of public has to change regarding the life and the material etc, we also need some strength and ways and means to resist various temptations. I feel it not so easy as some of us think, yes it can be controlled but certainly not in a very short period. In our country atlist 40% our population do not know what is corruption, how it is bad, why should we stop it etc. We have to consider some time for anti forces working within ourselves and the society. But I do agree that it can be stopped/controled
 
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