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Is there any bigger threat to India other than China???
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samarkadian
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When you say 'we' and at the same time if you mean Indian Government by it, then it is self explaintary. Answer is NO. Indian government is too soft for external issues that it even can't assert its position at Pan Asia level.
Secondaly if you mean 'we' with people of India - me,you,he,she,they etc, still the answer is NO. We are lazy, easily forgetting kind of world's population and can't do nothing against China.
Secondaly if you mean 'we' with people of India - me,you,he,she,they etc, still the answer is NO. We are lazy, easily forgetting kind of world's population and can't do nothing against China.
ravinderjeet
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When you say 'we' and at the same time if you mean Indian Government by it, then it is self explaintary. Answer is NO. Indian government is too soft for external issues that it even can't assert its position at Pan Asia level.
Secondaly if you mean 'we' with people of India - me,you,he,she,they etc, still the answer is NO. We are lazy, easily forgetting kind of world's population and can't do nothing against China.
सब किम्मे ते कह दिया समर ने | गागर में सागर |
Congress - Present day Kabailis (Looters)
Samar has rightly segregated the WE.
If it is the Govt., then we cannot expect it to do much. The govt. is busy looting the common man and stashing away national wealth in safe havens outside. They are doing this at a critical time, when the Pakistanis and Chinese are collaborating and scheming against India. These two enemies (both of them firmly believing in the principleless approach - enemy of an enemy is a friend), are at our doorstep with very active collaboration happening in POK. Moreover, the withdrawal of the American and NATO troops from Afghanistan would make available to Pakistan the Taliban fighters who would help its army in the J&K. With such a formidable line-up of enemies at our borders, our defence forces need Urgent and rapid modernisation. But our political masters are busy LOOTING US AND OUR COUNTRY.
As far as WE (the citizens) are concerned, the least we can do is remove the present ruling party by not voting for it (our vote for it would mean Rewarding it for looting us). Voting in the lesser evil with the rider of a Right to recall (ELECTORAL REFORMS) would seem to be a viable solution - with constant monitoring.
With the sword of RIGHT TO RECALL hanging over their heads - these rascals would stick to the mandate given by the public. They would then NOT dare to say - Parliament is Supreme and not the People.
Samar has rightly segregated the WE.
If it is the Govt., then we cannot expect it to do much. The govt. is busy looting the common man and stashing away national wealth in safe havens outside. They are doing this at a critical time, when the Pakistanis and Chinese are collaborating and scheming against India. These two enemies (both of them firmly believing in the principleless approach - enemy of an enemy is a friend), are at our doorstep with very active collaboration happening in POK. Moreover, the withdrawal of the American and NATO troops from Afghanistan would make available to Pakistan the Taliban fighters who would help its army in the J&K. With such a formidable line-up of enemies at our borders, our defence forces need Urgent and rapid modernisation. But our political masters are busy LOOTING US AND OUR COUNTRY.
As far as WE (the citizens) are concerned, the least we can do is remove the present ruling party by not voting for it (our vote for it would mean Rewarding it for looting us). Voting in the lesser evil with the rider of a Right to recall (ELECTORAL REFORMS) would seem to be a viable solution - with constant monitoring.
With the sword of RIGHT TO RECALL hanging over their heads - these rascals would stick to the mandate given by the public. They would then NOT dare to say - Parliament is Supreme and not the People.
The sonia and the greedy politicians of all parties, are much bigger threat to the country than china, lack of spiritual knowledge,uncontrolled desire, expectations, greed, dissatisfaction, materialism, religionism, casteism, areaism, goondaism, selfishness & disunity etc are real threate
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dahiyarocks
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each n every one has to change if u want sumthing good in dis country......else der r threats from every corner in our country.......
v all in general dont think of national interest..india have a dhoti clad minister of defence and a external affairs minister who does not know what is foreign policy..till v have professional people as minister nothing vl come out concrete..SO its our responsibility to elect REAL PROFESSIONAL as our elected reps in parliament or vidhan sabhas..TILL than INDIA UN HI SARAKTA RAHEGA..har mamle main...
ravinderjeet
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v all in general dont think of national interest..india have a dhoti clad minister of defence and a external affairs minister who does not know what is foreign policy..till v have professional people as minister nothing vl come out concrete..SO its our responsibility to elect REAL PROFESSIONAL as our elected reps in parliament or vidhan sabhas..TILL than INDIA UN HI SARAKTA RAHEGA..har mamle main...
धोती बांधे तें ज्ञान ख़तम हो जा स के ? धोती का विदेश निति अर ज्ञान तें के ताल्लुक स ?
v all in general dont think of national interest..india have a dhoti clad minister of defence and a external affairs minister who does not know what is foreign policy..till v have professional people as minister nothing vl come out concrete..SO its our responsibility to elect REAL PROFESSIONAL as our elected reps in parliament or vidhan sabhas..TILL than INDIA UN HI SARAKTA RAHEGA..har mamle main...
I think Dhoti or dress has nothing to do with knowledge. The well known Indian Scientist and Nobel Prize winner C.V. Raman used to wear a turban (probably dhoti/lungi too).
Going by his bio-data S.M. Krishna seems to be a fairly educated person. I am sure he is not that illiterate that he doesn't know ABCD of India's foreign policy. You may go through his brief bio-data which is given under:
"Born on 1 May 1932, Shri S.M. Krishna graduated from Maharaja’s College, Mysore, and went on to obtain a law degree from the Government Law College, Bangalore. Later he studied at the Southern Methodist University, Dallas, USA and also at George Washington University as a Fulbright scholar.
Back in India, he worked as a Professor of International Law in Renukacharya Law College, Bangalore. He was elected to the Karnataka Legislative Assembly in 1962 and made his debut in Parliament in 1968, to become a Member of the fourth Lok Sabha (People’s House). "
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means, you are not sure..lol
I think Dhoti or dress has nothing to do with knowledge. The well known Indian Scientist and Nobel Prize winner C.V. Raman used to wear a turban (probably dhoti/lungi too).
Going by his bio-data S.M. Krishna seems to be a fairly educated person. I am sure he is not that illiterate that he doesn't know ABCD of India's foreign policy. You may go through his brief bio-data which is given under:
"Born on 1 May 1932, Shri S.M. Krishna graduated from Maharaja’s College, Mysore, and went on to obtain a law degree from the Government Law College, Bangalore. Later he studied at the Southern Methodist University, Dallas, USA and also at George Washington University as a Fulbright scholar.
Back in India, he worked as a Professor of International Law in Renukacharya Law College, Bangalore. He was elected to the Karnataka Legislative Assembly in 1962 and made his debut in Parliament in 1968, to become a Member of the fourth Lok Sabha (People’s House). "
urmiladuhan
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means, you are not sure..lol
Seems so! rofl
Yesterday there was a news regrading Chinese planning for a kargil like attack. This information has been given to the home ministry by J & K government. Since last 50 years India has not done anything concrete to prevent its soil. If same continues the day is not far when the China and Pakistan will attack us. Government is acting lame with his lukewarm responses.
ravinderjeet
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Yesterday there was a news regrading Chinese planning for a kargil like attack. This information has been given to the home ministry by J & K government. Since last 50 years India has not done anything concrete to prevent its soil. If same continues the day is not far when the China and Pakistan will attack us. Government is acting lame with his lukewarm responses.
There is no govt. at center. The people whom you are thinking that they are "government ",are actually "dakoos"in white attire.always in planning and conducting the meetings ,just how to loot the country.this is not a simple comment ,this is fact.
means, you are not sure..lol
You may interpret so. But what is your wise take on this?? Please say something!!
इस मामले मैं तो तारीफ करणी चाहिए नेताओ की. किसै बी कारण अपना परिधान तो पहरे सै; दिखावा या ड्रेस कोड, कुछ बी कारण हो चाहे. ना तो अरमाणी शूट कोणसी बड़ी बात सै इन खातर.
बाहर देश जाना पडै जिब बी बिचारे बंध गाळे कोट पहार लेंगे बस, टाई फेर बी नहीं बांधते. ना तो यह चीन, जापान, पाकिस्तान और वोह खाजला सा ईरान वाळा जब देखो शूट-टाई मै दिखेंगे. जबकि यो उनका पारंपरिक परिधान कोन्या.
बाहर देश जाना पडै जिब बी बिचारे बंध गाळे कोट पहार लेंगे बस, टाई फेर बी नहीं बांधते. ना तो यह चीन, जापान, पाकिस्तान और वोह खाजला सा ईरान वाळा जब देखो शूट-टाई मै दिखेंगे. जबकि यो उनका पारंपरिक परिधान कोन्या.
You may interpret so. But what is your wise take on this?? Please say something!!
इस मामले मैं तो तारीफ करणी चाहिए नेताओ की. किसै बी कारण अपना परिधान तो पहरे सै; दिखावा या ड्रेस कोड, कुछ बी कारण हो चाहे. ना तो अरमाणी शूट कोणसी बड़ी बात सै इन खातर.
बाहर देश जाना पडै जिब बी बिचारे बंध गाळे कोट पहार लेंगे बस, टाई फेर बी नहीं बांधते. ना तो यह चीन, जापान, पाकिस्तान और वोह खाजला सा ईरान वाळा जब देखो शूट-टाई मै दिखेंगे. जबकि यो उनका पारंपरिक परिधान कोन्या.
धीरे धीरे सूट-टाई पर आण लाग्गे I कई तो जब हिन्दुस्तान तैं बहार जावें सें तो एक सूट आर टाई झोले मै घाल ले ज्यां सें आर होटल मै पहुँच के डिस्को मै जान तैं पहल्यां पहर लेवें सें I
चीन नै तो माओ के मरने के बाद, माओ-कोट फेंक दिया था
ईरान मै टाई पर इब्बे सरकारी मोहर ना लागी सै I शाह के टेम मैं तो ईरान खुला और आधुनिक देश था I लोग न्यू बतावें सै तेहरान में डिस्को आर night club होया करदे I Shiraz Wine का जन्म भी ईरान में होया बतावें I
Now coming to topic. Our corrupt politicians and intellectual bankruptcy are two bigger threats than China.
वी पी सिंह जी, मै थोडा देशी हिसाब का माणस सूँ. पर मनै तै चीन फालतू के पंगे लेणिया लागता ना. अर लठ्ठ बजाणा होगा तो पहलम औरां नै समारै गा. किम्मै खतरा ना दीखता फिलहाल तो और काल नै केहोज्या, किहं नै बेरा. थोडा न्यू बताओ यो शाह पहलवी भाज्या-भाज्या हाँड़या, अर तगडे-तगड़े मुल्क हाथ ठागे शरण देण ताहि, जो सात समंदर दूर थे वोह भी.
फेर यो दलाई लामा अडै मेहमान बणा कै क्यू बिठालिया लिया? ठीक सै समाज और नैतिक दृष्टी तै तो, भई आफत मै मदत तो करनी चहिये हो जिसी. पर Geopolitics point of view तै देखां, तो यो खामखा का बैर बांध्या चीन तै, अक हम किते बिचळ गे या फेर किम्मे और कहाणी बणी? यो माणस ऊह बात तो अच्छी करै सै, इनाम भी खूब दे सै दुनिया इस तैं, पर अच्छे-अच्छे मुल्कां की हिम्मत ना होती इह ताहि बीजा देण की भी. अर फेर भी कदै यो न्यू कहता ना दीखता कै मै भारत का इसान मानु सुं. कै रौळा सै यो किम्मे समझ मै ए ना बैठता ?? टैम लगा कै किम्मै बताइयो इस के बारे
फेर यो दलाई लामा अडै मेहमान बणा कै क्यू बिठालिया लिया? ठीक सै समाज और नैतिक दृष्टी तै तो, भई आफत मै मदत तो करनी चहिये हो जिसी. पर Geopolitics point of view तै देखां, तो यो खामखा का बैर बांध्या चीन तै, अक हम किते बिचळ गे या फेर किम्मे और कहाणी बणी? यो माणस ऊह बात तो अच्छी करै सै, इनाम भी खूब दे सै दुनिया इस तैं, पर अच्छे-अच्छे मुल्कां की हिम्मत ना होती इह ताहि बीजा देण की भी. अर फेर भी कदै यो न्यू कहता ना दीखता कै मै भारत का इसान मानु सुं. कै रौळा सै यो किम्मे समझ मै ए ना बैठता ?? टैम लगा कै किम्मै बताइयो इस के बारे
धीरे धीरे सूट-टाई पर आण लाग्गे I कई तो जब हिन्दुस्तान तैं बहार जावें सें तो एक सूट आर टाई झोले मै घाल ले ज्यां सें आर होटल मै पहुँच के डिस्को मै जान तैं पहल्यां पहर लेवें सें I
चीन नै तो माओ के मरने के बाद, माओ-कोट फेंक दिया था
ईरान मै टाई पर इब्बे सरकारी मोहर ना लागी सै I शाह के टेम मैं तो ईरान खुला और आधुनिक देश था I लोग न्यू बतावें सै तेहरान में डिस्को आर night club होया करदे I Shiraz Wine का जन्म भी ईरान में होया बतावें I
Now coming to topic. Our corrupt politicians and intellectual bankruptcy are two bigger threats than China.
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वी पी सिंह जी, मै थोडा देशी हिसाब का माणस सूँ. पर मनै तै चीन फालतू के पंगे लेणिया लागता ना. अर लठ्ठ बजाणा होगा तो पहलम औरां नै समारै गा. किम्मै खतरा ना दीखता फिलहाल तो और काल नै केहोज्या, किहं नै बेरा. थोडा न्यू बताओ यो शाह पहलवी भाज्या-भाज्या हाँड़या, अर तगडे-तगड़े मुल्क हाथ ठागे शरण देण ताहि, जो सात समंदर दूर थे वोह भी.
फेर यो दलाई लामा अडै मेहमान बणा कै क्यू बिठालिया लिया? ठीक सै समाज और नैतिक दृष्टी तै तो, भई आफत मै मदत तो करनी चहिये हो जिसी. पर Geopolitics point of view तै देखां, तो यो खामखा का बैर बांध्या चीन तै, अक हम किते बिचळ गे या फेर किम्मे और कहाणी बणी? यो माणस ऊह बात तो अच्छी करै सै, इनाम भी खूब दे सै दुनिया इस तैं, पर अच्छे-अच्छे मुल्कां की हिम्मत ना होती इह ताहि बीजा देण की भी. अर फेर भी कदै यो न्यू कहता ना दीखता कै मै भारत का इसान मानु सुं. कै रौळा सै यो किम्मे समझ मै ए ना बैठता ?? टैम लगा कै किम्मै बताइयो इस के बारे
किरशन, यो दलाई लामा खामखाँ का बटेऊ पाल लिया था किसे टेम मैं इब यो जाण का नाम ना लेता I यो जब तिब्बत मै राजा था तो इसने आपणे सारे रिश्तेदार कैबिनेट में ले राखे थे आर सारा पिस्सा दाब रह्या था I खूब मलाई खाई इसने आर इब भी मौज ले रह्या सै I चीन के साथ खामखाँ का पंगा लिया नेहरु नै I पहल्यां तो कनेडी की बहका में आके वो मैक-मोहन लाइन धोरे का buffer zone अमरीका नै देण का वायदा कर बैठ्या था I इस चक्कर मै चीन नै 62 मै अटेक मार दिया था I बाकी हकीकत के सै वा तो गूगल मास्टरजी बतावेगा , या फेर कपिल बतावेगा माड़ी हान मैं I
किरशन, यो दलाई लामा खामखाँ का बटेऊ पाल लिया था किसे टेम मैं इब यो जाण का नाम ना लेता I यो जब तिब्बत मै राजा था तो इसने आपणे सारे रिश्तेदार कैबिनेट में ले राखे थे आर सारा पिस्सा दाब रह्या था I खूब मलाई खाई इसने आर इब भी मौज ले रह्या सै I चीन के साथ खामखाँ का पंगा लिया नेहरु नै I पहल्यां तो कनेडी की बहका में आके वो मैक-मोहन लाइन धोरे का buffer zone अमरीका नै देण का वायदा कर बैठ्या था I इस चक्कर मै चीन नै 62 मै अटेक मार दिया था I बाकी हकीकत के सै वा तो गूगल मास्टरजी बतावेगा , या फेर कपिल बतावेगा माड़ी हान मैं I
Kapil bhai nai badiya uttar diya tha is post mai :
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showt...it-by-Dal-Lama&p=231520&viewfull=1#post231520
The principle of giving refuge to anyone who seeks it is important. But even if we ignore it for a second, it is in India's national interest to give Dalai Lama refuge.
Friendship happens between equals. Even if we want to be friendly with China, it doesn't mean that we succumb to their every whim and fancy. Dalai Lama is not a terrorist. He is free to travel anywhere in India as he wants and as India permits. China's objection against him traveling to a part of India is ridiculous and should be condemned. We have nothing to gain from pandering to China's wishes.
Dalai Lama represents the aspirations of Tibetans, and that issue is one of China's weaknesses. Strategically, it makes sense for India to exercise as much control as it can on this weakness. International diplomacy should be based on "tit for tat" principle rather than a "holier than thou" approach against overwhelming evidence of wrong doing on other's part (Pakistan, Maoists, etc.). China would play ball with an India that has potential to cause harm to them rather than a toothless one that just barks, but can't bite.
PS: No comments on the usual hue and cry about India's police records, rapes, gujarat and what not; apart from- pheeew, again!! And here!!??