Those guilty of "Within Gotra" marriage should be ostrasized by JAT's... Yes or No ?

Those guilty of "Within Gotra" marriage should be ostracized... Yes or No ?


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Rekha Ji,

Those who raise the question of Adam and Eve, please try to respond them the way this guy responded to one, read the second post of this chain, it has the answer:
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?34415-खाप-मैं-और-समाज-का-मोडर्न-ठेकेदार

Those who raise this question they do so because no-one care to find answer to it but I have given a try....you may also try the same way!

Sir g ,

I always get curious when i start thinking a lot-
isliye i don't think a lot

but there is one question which i used to ask every one including my parents-

sabne ne ek hi cheez sikhayee- same gotra marraige -absolute sin n other jazz

yeh duniya - ek Adam n ek Eve se bani-

so as per that fact - we all are related - ?????????????????
so what door ke istedar hi sahi

Sir g - n jawab milta tha - yeh TV ne bigad rakha hai- kam ki bat soch liya kar ??????????

but kabhi answer nahi mila-

ab apne un sare incidents ki yad dila di ( feeling nostalgic)

Regards,
 
Kindly comment on findings of scientific studies recommending adoption of Indian marriage system's feature which forbids same gotra marriages propounded and accepted as good by WHO an organ of UNO.

Are the scientific studies carried out throughout world are influence by the Jats or the soft target of media attack ages old Khaps.

According to me, under the influence of media blitz, the youth of today cannot be made to accept the traditions and conventions as practised by the society for the ages.
If the health hazards be brought to the notice of our children from an early age, they will not go astray and then, and then only, there would not rise question of punishing them.

Regards

Sir,

If I remember well, sometime back Kapil (JL member) pointed out the fallacies in the much hackneyed theory of 'same-gotra marriage being wrong scientifically'. Nevertheless, here are some points to consider:

1. While it is true that inbreeding cause genetic conditions and should be avoided. But this is relevant only in closely related couples who share large pool of genes. Let us take boy X from one village and girl Y of same gotra but from another village- now if ancestors of X and Y were not related (say, for last for the last 20 generations), then overlapping of X and Y genes would be insignificant. On the other hand if boy X marries the girl Z which is distantly related to him (though not from his or his mom's gotra but related nevertheless) then theoretically couple X-Z is more prone to genetic diseases then the couple X-Y.
Moreover, many gotras are very very big, spread over many districts/states which essentially means large variety of genes within the same gotra and thus same-gotra marriages (if not in closely related couple) are not wrong in strict scientific terms.

2. I believe WHO suggested avoiding marriage between family members (5-6 generations) which is prevalent in Muslims, African countries and southern India NOT the same-gotra marriages. If WHO's official advice on marriages indeed includes 'gotra', most probably it s due to the confusion of what constitutes 'gotra'.

3. I do NOT believe that our ancestors who started this tradition of 'no marriages in same-gotra' did so in the light of scientific studies or anything like that. It was mostly to maintain a social decorum NOT to avoid genetic diseases (there were other mass-killing endemic diseases for them to take care)!

5. If for a moment I believe that our ancestors were experts in genetics, they would have strongly recommended inter-caste marriages which was not to be. Hence, justifying 'no-marriages in same-gotra' with scientific reasons is a 'recent-afterthought'.

6. Probably the only argument that can be given against 'same-gotra' marriage is this: If the norm is relaxed then it COULD, subsequently, encourage marriages within the related family members and that would be wrong... scientifically! But as such let us accept it is as a innocuous social tradition; much like kissing in public places which in India is supposed to be wrong, illegal and immoral though there is absolutely nothing wrong in it scientifically or otherwise (I mean, billion others do it and very often).
 
Sir g ,

ab toh wahin same school wala question-

pehle anda aaya murgi


phir kaise bani yeh duniya???????????

please do not tell me sir - u beleive in Bing Bang theory types kuch

n whats the proof- my fairy tale is not true-

sir g justification toh na apki bat ka hai- ne meri

so agar galat aap nahi toh - mei bhi nahi

Please no offence sir .

Regards,



Adam and Eve? What is the proof that this 'duniya' is the generation of Adam & Eve? Just a fairy tale from Bible !

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Sir g ,

Agreed - just to FYI - i read Genetics- n i know all jazz of Genes

toh aap log yeh bolo na- beta isliye nahi karte same gotra mei shadi

yeh custom - n rituals kahan se aa gaye

ab bete ne kardi galti- toh samjhao beta ab toh gaye tere Genes-

usse fansi par latkane ki bat kahan se aa gaye


Sir g- aap khud hi ans jante ho -

still supporting that custom which is responsible for taking away happiness from many Jat families

Sir logic ko logic se todo

else please becharon ko jane do

mera point yeh tha- koi bhi Jat specially when we all know sabse zayda customs n rituals mei fansi huyee caste hai

koi bhi jan boojhkar aisa nahi karega- ab hum youth itne dimag ke sarke nahi huye- ki intentionally musibat bulayenge-

lekin anajane mei ho gayee galti -
toh please accept us- support us

na ki dhakak mar kar- gira do

ya mar do

kahan ka insaf hai-yeh

Regards,



Kindly comment on findings of scientific studies recommending adoption of Indian marriage system's feature which forbids same gotra marriages propounded and accepted as good by WHO an organ of UNO.

Are the scientific studies carried out throughout world are influence by the Jats or the soft target of media attack ages old Khaps.

According to me, under the influence of media blitz, the youth of today cannot be made to accept the traditions and conventions as practised by the society for the ages.
If the health hazards be brought to the notice of our children from an early age, they will not go astray and then, and then only, there would not rise question of punishing them.

Regards
 
Sir g ,

Agreed - just to FYI - i read Genetics- n i know all jazz of Genes

toh aap log yeh bolo na- beta isliye nahi karte same gotra mei shadi

yeh custom - n rituals kahan se aa gaye

ab bete ne kardi galti- toh samjhao beta ab toh gaye tere Genes-

usse fansi par latkane ki bat kahan se aa gaye


Sir g- aap khud hi ans jante ho -

still supporting that custom which is responsible for taking away happiness from many Jat families

Sir logic ko logic se todo

else please becharon ko jane do

mera point yeh tha- koi bhi Jat specially when we all know sabse zayda customs n rituals mei fansi huyee caste hai

koi bhi jan boojhkar aisa nahi karega- ab hum youth itne dimag ke sarke nahi huye- ki intentionally musibat bulayenge-

lekin anajane mei ho gayee galti -
toh please accept us- support us

na ki dhakak mar kar- gira do

ya mar do

kahan ka insaf hai-yeh

Regards,

It is good learn that you read genetics, kindly share your knowledge of genetics with us regarding the topic of thread and issues raised by Dr. Prem Singh from Rohtak. Is there any material to contradict his statement that could be got in full by logging in the link given in my previous post? If yes, it would be great addition to the existing knowledge.
However I am for application of individual's natural and constitutional right of life and life to be lived in dignity without infringement and interference from any quarter.

I am against killing anyone, whatever the provocation and for giving a chance to improve!
 
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या थारी विज्ञानं और genes तो एक सड़क पे उघाड़े चलन त हर रिश्तेदारी या भाईचारे में प्यार संबंद ने भी गलत नहीं माने जब तक वे बालक न करे. समाज हर असकी बनायीं नेतिकता और मोलिकता भी कोई चीज़ होया करे हे हार उसती कया करे हे सामाजिक विज्ञानं. एकला किताबी ज्ञान घना सेदा करे हे
 
Sir,

If I remember well, sometime back Kapil (JL member) pointed out the fallacies in the much hackneyed theory of 'same-gotra marriage being wrong scientifically'. Nevertheless, here are some points to consider:

1. While it is true that inbreeding cause genetic conditions and should be avoided. But this is relevant only in closely related couples who share large pool of genes. Let us take boy X from one village and girl Y of same gotra but from another village- now if ancestors of X and Y were not related (say, for last for the last 20 generations), then overlapping of X and Y genes would be insignificant. On the other hand if boy X marries the girl Z which is distantly related to him (though not from his or his mom's gotra but related nevertheless) then theoretically couple X-Z is more prone to genetic diseases then the couple X-Y.
Moreover, many gotras are very very big, spread over many districts/states which essentially means large variety of genes within the same gotra and thus same-gotra marriages (if not in closely related couple) are not wrong in strict scientific terms.

2. I believe WHO suggested avoiding marriage between family members (5-6 generations) which is prevalent in Muslims, African countries and southern India NOT the same-gotra marriages. If WHO's official advice on marriages indeed includes 'gotra', most probably it s due to the confusion of what constitutes 'gotra'.

3. I do NOT believe that our ancestors who started this tradition of 'no marriages in same-gotra' did so in the light of scientific studies or anything like that. It was mostly to maintain a social decorum NOT to avoid genetic diseases (there were other mass-killing endemic diseases for them to take care)!

5. If for a moment I believe that our ancestors were experts in genetics, they would have strongly recommended inter-caste marriages which was not to be. Hence, justifying 'no-marriages in same-gotra' with scientific reasons is a 'recent-afterthought'.

6. Probably the only argument that can be given against 'same-gotra' marriage is this: If the norm is relaxed then it COULD, subsequently, encourage marriages within the related family members and that would be wrong... scientifically! But as such let us accept it is as a innocuous social tradition; much like kissing in public places which in India is supposed to be wrong, illegal and immoral though there is absolutely nothing wrong in it scientifically or otherwise (I mean, billion others do it and very often).

Excellent post. Many opposers of same-gotra marriage do not know the very basic of genetic facts and details you posted here and yet mention genetics blindly as a reason against same gotra marriage.
 
Sir g ,

I guess I have made this clear - that whatever- Genetics jazz was shared was not wrong

the whole point was - if u r using some scientific reason then give that logic

not customs- rituals - khap - n all that music

Let me clear once again- I m also against of same gotra marriage - on scientific reason -

n I m entirely against of ostracizing those people from society

sir g i m simple person with simple logic

- ab kardi humare bachon ne galti -
toh kya karna hai-
ostrasizing / killing/ torture / humiliation


not a solution

society ke rules- time ke sath badalne chahiye

that is biggest drawback of us - hum nahi badalna chahte

same ha i sir g - ZiDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

bas yahi hai problem -

No Offence -

Regards,



It is good learn that you read genetics, kindly share your knowledge of genetics with us regarding the topic of thread and issues raised by Dr. Prem Singh from Rohtak. Is there any material to contradict his statement that could be got in full by logging in the link given in my previous post? If yes, it would be great addition to the existing knowledge.
However I am for application of individual's natural and constitutional right of life and life to be lived in dignity without infringement and interference from any quarter.

I am against killing anyone, whatever the provocation and for giving a chance to improve!
 
Sir g ,

Agreed - just to FYI - i read Genetics- n i know all jazz of Genes

toh aap log yeh bolo na- beta isliye nahi karte same gotra mei shadi

yeh custom - n rituals kahan se aa gaye

ab bete ne kardi galti- toh samjhao beta ab toh gaye tere Genes-

usse fansi par latkane ki bat kahan se aa gaye


Sir g- aap khud hi ans jante ho -

still supporting that custom which is responsible for taking away happiness from many Jat families

Sir logic ko logic se todo

else please becharon ko jane do

mera point yeh tha- koi bhi Jat specially when we all know sabse zayda customs n rituals mei fansi huyee caste hai

koi bhi jan boojhkar aisa nahi karega- ab hum youth itne dimag ke sarke nahi huye- ki intentionally musibat bulayenge-

lekin anajane mei ho gayee galti -
toh please accept us- support us

na ki dhakak mar kar- gira do

ya mar do

kahan ka insaf hai-yeh

Regards,
rekha first i wana know ki aap kaha se belong karti ho?aisa maine isliye poocha hai coz apki batein mujhe aisa soochne pur majboor ki aap kahi gaoo nahi gaye...gaam gaye hoti to u should hav known y we dont marry in the same gotra....gaoo mai baacho ko starting se bataya jata hai ki gaam mai harr ladki behan hai..gwandi means brotherhood walee gaoo mai bhi sab behan hai...to jab itne saaalo tak kissi ko ye baat saamajh nahi aati to phir woo anjani mai ki hui galti nahi hoti....aisee logo ka marna hi thik hai...jo apne maa baaap ka muh kala kar dete hai n biradari ka bhi....aap shayad kabhi un parents se nahi mili jo bhaag kar apne gotra mai shaadi kar leti hai...do u know log unko kaise kaise taane marte hai...n uss ghar ke kissi bhi baache ki shaadi honi mushkill ho jati hai.....so i would request u first plzzz n spend atleast a weeek in a jat dominated village....thn no ques..of urz will b unanswered...
 
u r right - i haven't spend any time in village-

but i m aware all that all typical jat jazz -just fyi- i m also a Jat - my roots belong to a village in Rohtak Distt

plz note - i have never defended same gotra marraige

just asking for forgiveness- on their behalf-- that i made a mistake- now waht

u want me to pay it with my life?????????????????

n all that taunting etc- woh hum hi marte hai unhe-agar hum thodi samajh se kam lenge - woh bat sambhal jayegi

agar itna bhiachara hai toh - kyun marne par tulle rehte hai unhe-

itna so called brother hood hai - toh unki saza unki families ko kyun????????????

sir g - i m not willing to spend any time in village-
because of the level of maturity - that they do not have -

god forbid- if my son would do such thing- u expect me to kill him

yeh bhaichara hai aap logon ka??????????

sahi hai phir toh - then why we r discussing same

faisla toh kar hi liya aap logon ne- ki marna hai unhe-

remember one thing-

today they need support - they come to us- our so called brotherhood-
n we are not going to support them

sir g- TIT 4 TAT-
kal jab humein apne bachon ka support chahiye hoga- woh bhi yahin karenge

simple logic- a request rather

don't push it so hard- that one day system would collapse
understand them- give them at least one chance.

again sir g - no offence

Regards,






rekha first i wana know ki aap kaha se belong karti ho?aisa maine isliye poocha hai coz apki batein mujhe aisa soochne pur majboor ki aap kahi gaoo nahi gaye...gaam gaye hoti to u should hav known y we dont marry in the same gotra....gaoo mai baacho ko starting se bataya jata hai ki gaam mai harr ladki behan hai..gwandi means brotherhood walee gaoo mai bhi sab behan hai...to jab itne saaalo tak kissi ko ye baat saamajh nahi aati to phir woo anjani mai ki hui galti nahi hoti....aisee logo ka marna hi thik hai...jo apne maa baaap ka muh kala kar dete hai n biradari ka bhi....aap shayad kabhi un parents se nahi mili jo bhaag kar apne gotra mai shaadi kar leti hai...do u know log unko kaise kaise taane marte hai...n uss ghar ke kissi bhi baache ki shaadi honi mushkill ho jati hai.....so i would request u first plzzz n spend atleast a weeek in a jat dominated village....thn no ques..of urz will b unanswered...
 
u r right - i haven't spend any time in village-

but i m aware all that all typical jat jazz -just fyi- i m also a Jat - my roots belong to a village in Rohtak Distt

plz note - i have never defended same gotra marraige

just asking for forgiveness- on their behalf-- that i made a mistake- now waht

u want me to pay it with my life?????????????????

n all that taunting etc- woh hum hi marte hai unhe-agar hum thodi samajh se kam lenge - woh bat sambhal jayegi

agar itna bhiachara hai toh - kyun marne par tulle rehte hai unhe-

itna so called brother hood hai - toh unki saza unki families ko kyun????????????

sir g - i m not willing to spend any time in village-
because of the level of maturity - that they do not have -

god forbid- if my son would do such thing- u expect me to kill him

yeh bhaichara hai aap logon ka??????????

sahi hai phir toh - then why we r discussing same

faisla toh kar hi liya aap logon ne- ki marna hai unhe-

remember one thing-

today they need support - they come to us- our so called brotherhood-
n we are not going to support them

sir g- TIT 4 TAT-
kal jab humein apne bachon ka support chahiye hoga- woh bhi yahin karenge

simple logic- a request rather

don't push it so hard- that one day system would collapse
understand them- give them at least one chance.

again sir g - no offence

Regards,

Madam ji , this problem has already been discussed several times here, just have a look ,

any way thanx to participate and putting yr thoughts

before putting my points, let me clear that i am against honour killing

secondly, leave the scientific logic for a moment.

now human being is antonym of animal jungle raj. But long back all were animals only. A lot of efforts were taken and being taken to come out from that animalism . Society were formed and certain rule regulations were made . a lot of changes / improvements were also done to become better and better human being. Societies on entire planet are different and following own rules. Everyone in his / her society is following its rules /customs.

If somebody breaks the rules than actual and responsible member of the society will not accept it otherwise frequency of these breaking will increase.
u have not spent a day in Jatland society / culture, so absolutely yr reaction is not wrong . U are saying if yr son wants to marry a same gotra girl than u will not have any problem. But if yr son wants to marry his sister , will u say OK. (pl don’t take other wise )

What will be yr feelings , the same feelings come in everybody’s mind at Jatbelt . ya killing is not the solution but accepting it is also not a solution. Actions should be taken to avoid these happenings. Otherwise now it same gotra matter , in future it may be worst than that.

99 % of these cases are totally physical blindness and main reasons are lacking of education, growing in bad culture, non monitoring by parents and degradation of our society or so.

U see in tamil nadu, they marry with maternal cousin. for them maternal cousin is the first priority. So no issue , and we shouldn’t react on this.

So here at JL we should discuss to come out of these problems in our society.
 
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To all Sirs ,

My family caught me participating in this such hot discussion-
my mom made me download Intolerance love episode- she made me watch it along with her

" then she said - now u can understand why i m asking u not to get urself involve in any such views"

apne kam se kam rakh-

we all know u have Super Extreme Views- ab dhindora peetne ki zaroorat nahi hai

no matter how strong ur views are - they are living with this culture since decades -

they will never understand- many have died- many more to go

tujhe koi zaroorat nahi hai- is sab mei padne ki-

u have finished ur studies- now working- get married- n live ur life bas .........

SO TO ALL SIRS - YEH MERI BHI BAHUT ACHE SE SAMAJH MEI AA GAYEE- AAPNE KABHI NAHI MANNI- KITNO NE APNI JAN GAWA DI- BECHARE KITNE AUR LINE MEI HAI

so for sake of my family- specially mom

I m opting out of this discussion-

Adios Amigos !

( That does not mean i m opting out of JL- no way just this discussion )

Regards,
 
Time par so jaaoge aur time par uthoge toh Vichaaron mein freshness bani rahegi!!...Early to Bed, Early To Rise, makes a person healthy and wise......It is too late so sleep now.
To all Sirs ,

My family caught me participating in this such hot discussion-
my mom made me download Intolerance love episode- she made me watch it along with her

" then she said - now u can understand why i m asking u not to get urself involve in any such views"

apne kam se kam rakh-

we all know u have Super Extreme Views- ab dhindora peetne ki zaroorat nahi hai

no matter how strong ur views are - they are living with this culture since decades -

they will never understand- many have died- many more to go

tujhe koi zaroorat nahi hai- is sab mei padne ki-

u have finished ur studies- now working- get married- n live ur life bas .........

SO TO ALL SIRS - YEH MERI BHI BAHUT ACHE SE SAMAJH MEI AA GAYEE- AAPNE KABHI NAHI MANNI- KITNO NE APNI JAN GAWA DI- BECHARE KITNE AUR LINE MEI HAI

so for sake of my family- specially mom

I m opting out of this discussion-

Adios Amigos !

( That does not mean i m opting out of JL- no way just this discussion )

Regards,
 
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Madam ji , this problem has already been discussed several times here, just have a look ,

any way thanx to participate and putting yr thoughts

before putting my points, let me clear that i am against honour killing

secondly, leave the scientific logic for a moment.

now human being is antonym of animal jungle raj. But long back all were animals only. A lot of efforts were taken and being taken to come out from that animalism . Society were formed and certain rule regulations were made . a lot of changes / improvements were also done to become better and better human being. Societies on entire planet are different and following own rules. Everyone in his / her society is following its rules /customs.

If somebody breaks the rules than actual and responsible member of the society will not accept it otherwise frequency of these breaking will increase.
u have not spent a day in Jatland society / culture, so absolutely yr reaction is not wrong . U are saying if yr son wants to marry a same gotra girl than u will not have any problem. But if yr son wants to marry his sister , will u say OK. (pl don’t take other wise )

What will be yr feelings , the same feelings come in everybody’s mind at Jatbelt . ya killing is not the solution but accepting it is also not a solution. Actions should be taken to avoid these happenings. Otherwise now it same gotra matter , in future it may be worst than that.

99 % of these cases are totally physical blindness and main reasons are lacking of education, growing in bad culture, non monitoring by parents and degradation of our society or so.

U see in tamil nadu, they marry with maternal cousin. for them maternal cousin is the first priority. So no issue , and we shouldn’t react on this.

So here at JL we should discuss to come out of these problems in our society.

Sanjeev ji, you talk about rules, but I hope you will agree that rules too change with time. And lets not compare marrying within your Gotra as marrying your sister/cousin. The diluting the gene pool reason is as good as debunked.
 
If it is so, you are requested kindly to enlighten us by giving some specific scientific findings to support your statement on the issue.

Thanks

I think Sunil's post above did logically bust that argument, did it not? Same gotra marriage with no known direct relation would not necessarily lead to any dilution of the gene pool or risk to the next generation. If anything, there are are far bigger factors like access to health and medical services that will create a bigger role in determining the state of the next generation.

Here is something I found via a quick search. Please bear in mind I do not support cousin marriages. But the point I am trying to make via the item above is that if cousin marriages in which the marrying individuals share a 1/8 common gene (as they have one common grandfather) have only a 2.2% higher mortality rate than normal, then imagine the case for same gotra marriage in which probably 1/32 gene is same (if grandfather's grandfather were related). Wouldnt that significantly lower the health risks? And in our case where we most often know the ancestors for generations, the chances of a common ancestor would be further back into time and hence the health risk would be negligible.

And with regards to shrinking of the gene pool, Jats are anyways endogamous by nature, so even if you are avoiding marrying within your gotra, you are already diluting the gene pool. So the best way to make the gene pool better is to marry outside, which of course our elders wont suggest as they do not know a lot about genetics.

I understand the fundamentals behind avoiding same gotra marriage. It made sense centuries ago when population was small and each gotra had a maximum of a few hundred families. So it made sense to avoid marrying within the gotra as medical and health services were already poor and you didnt want to increase the risk of an unhealthy generation by marrying a close relation. But now after so many centuries, the same relation's family which you avoided has now grown multiple folds enriched by genes outside of the gotra. So it shouldnt be a concern if you marry into a family with which your ancestors were related 2 centuries back.

So as a thumb rule, I'd say if no common ancestor is known, its safe to marry within gotra.

On a lighter note, we know Muslims are the most well known community practicing cousin-marriages, yet for some reason, their population keeps on increasing. In fact they are the fastest growing community wherever they go! ;)
 
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Exam tha mera- padh rahi thi -

i had taken break for few minutes- tabhi post bheja that Sir g

n I m not morning person - rather night person


thnx for the advice

Regards,




Time par so jaaoge aur time par uthoge toh Vichaaron mein freshness bani rahegi!!...Early to Bed, Early To Rise, makes a person healthy and wise......It is too late so sleep now.
 
Thank you so much- Sir g


Sanjeev ji, you talk about rules, but I hope you will agree that rules too change with time. And lets not compare marrying within your Gotra as marrying your sister/cousin. The diluting the gene pool reason is as good as debunked.
 
Super Super Super Super Awesome -------------------

my logic was quite emotional- but urs awesome sir g-

ever since i have finished that SMJ episode- I was thinking so low of being Jat

how cruel- we can be-how cold blooded we are - heart less

humari zaban toh akahd hai hi- humare vichar bhi

just because of urs posts sir g-

i m a little relaxed - not every Jat is same

agar is community mei - Mei hoon-

toh mere jaise aur bhi honge-

saying thnx- won't be enough- in expressing my gratitude -

but thats all i have got

Regards,




I think Sunil's post above did logically bust that argument, did it not? Same gotra marriage with no known direct relation would not necessarily lead to any dilution of the gene pool or risk to the next generation. If anything, there are are far bigger factors like access to health and medical services that will create a bigger role in determining the state of the next generation.

Here is something I found via a quick search. Please bear in mind I do not support cousin marriages. But the point I am trying to make via the item above is that if cousin marriages in which the marrying individuals share a 1/8 common gene (as they have one common grandfather) have only a 2.2% higher mortality rate than normal, then imagine the case for same gotra marriage in which probably 1/32 gene is same (if grandfather's grandfather were related). Wouldnt that significantly lower the health risks? And in our case where we most often know the ancestors for generations, the chances of a common ancestor would be further back into time and hence the health risk would be negligible.

And with regards to shrinking of the gene pool, Jats are anyways endogamous by nature, so even if you are avoiding marrying within your gotra, you are already diluting the gene pool. So the best way to make the gene pool better is to marry outside, which of course our elders wont suggest as they do not know a lot about genetics.

I understand the fundamentals behind avoiding same gotra marriage. It made sense centuries ago when population was small and each gotra had a maximum of a few hundred families. So it made sense to avoid marrying within the gotra as medical and health services were already poor and you didnt want to increase the risk of an unhealthy generation by marrying a close relation. But now after so many centuries, the same relation's family which you avoided has now grown multiple folds enriched by genes outside of the gotra. So it shouldnt be a concern if you marry into a family with which your ancestors were related 2 centuries back.

So as a thumb rule, I'd say if no common ancestor is know, its safe to marry within gotra.

On a lighter note, we know Muslims are the most well known community practicing cousin-marriages, yet for some reason, their population keeps on increasing. In fact they are the fastest growing community wherever they go! ;)
 
kamaal h ik common question and we all started to shout yeh wo, aise waise , aisa kyon waisa kyn, bhaiyo kitno k pariwar main kisi ne Same gotras marriage ki h ,or kitne apne hath m Gun nd sword le kar marne nikale h, yarron the one who wore shoes knows where it bite, i m nt in favour nt against because i m nt connected with such an issue. recently got married, nd just know only one thing, i still try to find the face of society, i m Jat, liviing with lots of Rao Saabs as my friends, My cousin got married as love marriage , we all brothers married, my father, nd many of my known Jats married to others, i just know one thing, If i m shokeen nd married to shokeen its like marrying to ur sister. But is any one of boy can able to refuse other girl of same Gotra as Girl Friend if she is from other state or other area and no one know that , Friends, we all hate prostitutes too ,but we need prostitutes in the society for protecting our females, kamaal h na hamara double standard jab dushre par aaye toh jat samaaj ,jat samudhai, jat ikta, arre yarron, is Jat is also not human or we all super natural beings. if Human then why not we dare to forgive or find out solution of this problem , eye for an eye make the whole society blind. but nahi sab lage pade h , maro unhe jo aisa kare. Rekha g i appreciate your opinion. nd also read wts ur mother opinion i m nt against urs or nt commenting on others, its just my opinion.
 
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