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Narender Modi:- Narender modi and Police act like as hilter with Gujarat muslim people . He disrespected some Muslim people at the front of media. Some bloody muslim want to take revenge thats why they messed with hindu.

Thats only big reason
maaane niii beraaa to isi agent tu bataa dee:) taane to jaroor beraa hoga meree bhai....m sure tere bahut mullle dost hongee n teree se jarooor baat hui hogi train mai aag lagane se pehlee:)
 
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रहण दयो इब पड़ जाओ एक ओड़ न ...........
 
maaane niii beraaa to isi agent tu bataa dee:) taane to jaroor beraa hoga meree bhai....m sure tere bahut mullle dost hongee n teree se jarooor baat hui hogi train mai aag lagane se pehlee:)

hahaha susara koi bano aapne ke khet main pani den awe hai hahahahaha............ak nhi sandeep bhai


ak sandeep tera koi hokka bharn aa jawe hai
 
shayad----

ek state chalana n desh chalan
bahut difference hai

but shayad aap sahi hai

ek chnace toh banta hai

kuch na sudhara toh kya-

isse bura toh nahi karne wala
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:)

rekha ji... dont feel sorry for anything... aapne koi galat sawal nahi poocha...

mai 2002 mai to wahan nahi tha bhut 2004 mai jab mera campus placement hua L&T mai, to mugjhe wahan jane ka chance mila... wahan riots huae the, plague faila tha, earthquake aaya tha or floods to aate hi rehte hain... meri sari family mere wahan jane se against thi... but i want to experience a hostel life, away from family... gujarat ke liye mugjhe negative feeling jayada thi positive kam thi...

modi mera koi saga nahi hai, ki koi usko accuse karega to mugjhe problem hogi... mugjhe to tab bhi problem hoti hai jab log biased tarike se humare Khap System ko ulta seedha bolte hain... or tab bhi problem hoti hai jab kuch talibani log afganistan ke ek school ke khane/pani mai zehar mila kar 100 se jayada ladkiyon or teachers ko maar dete hain... mugjhe to tab bhi problem hoti hai jab UN mai india ka videsh mantri kisi doosre desh ki speech padh deta hai... or mugjhe to tab bhi problem hoti hai jab BJP ke bhai log, Inflation ke against bharat bandh karte hain, jis se common man hi harrass hota hai (though i support BJP too) .... or mugjhe to tab bhi problem hoti hai, jab 1984 and uske alawa or bahot sare riots ki baat karte hi congress muh fer leti hai... mai agar baki topic pe nahi likha to iska matlab ye to nahi ki mai or kisi issue ke bare mai aware nahi hu... :)

rekha ji mai fir se bolta hu, hum democratic log hai... or democracy mai criticism to accha hai but allegation theek nahi hai... 2002 main ya to mera ek bhi saga nahi mara tha... ya fir jitne bhi log mare the... chahe train mai, chahe riots mai ya fir police firing mai... sab mere sage the...

India ko modi ki jarurat hai. or ye hume maan lena chahiye... Aaj india mai youth population kafi jayada hai... bahot sare log, kafi hardwork kar ruhe hain or kama ruhe hain... but fir bhi india ki collaborative growth bahot kam hai, infact population ke hisaab se kafi kam hai... india ko ek aise leader ki jarurat hai jo itne sare youth ke budda (old) hone se pehle, India ke youth human resources ko efficiently manage kare, busy rukhe, kaam generate kar sake... or india ke resources ko itna conserve kar sake ki, jab ye youth budda ho jaye (jab khane wale muh jayada ho or kamane wale haath kam) to us time pe bhi india selfdependent reh kar sustain kar sake... or tab amir khan ye uska beta, satayamev jayate ke ek episode mai "Behaviour with Seinor Citizens" ke topic pe lecture de ruhe hongae... agar ye congress and media (divert and divide theory ko lekar) aise hi lage ruhe to aane wala time India ke liye bahot mushkil bhara ho sakta hai.. jiski strating waise to abhi ho chuki hai...

Modi ko agar koi fasi pe chada bhi de to koi farak nahi padega... But truth is that, at this point of time "Modi don't need India, India needs Modi"
 
yar muslim frnds hone se kya hota hai

i have few---hum jaise hi hote hai

but they don't booze at all- kuch bhi ho



maaane niii beraaa to isi agent tu bataa dee:) taane to jaroor beraa hoga meree bhai....m sure tere bahut mullle dost hongee n teree se jarooor baat hui hogi train mai aag lagane se pehlee:)
 
yar muslim frnds hone se kya hota hai

i have few---hum jaise hi hote hai

but they don't booze at all- kuch bhi ho

Rekha ji ,

Dont attach liquor with religion ...... i am pasting some statistics from wikipedia showing some facts about middle east countries :-

Statistics provided by research group Euromonitor International reported a constant increase in the use of alcohol in several countries where the Muslim religion, which prohibits the use of any product capable of affecting behaviour (drugs included), is dominant. Quoting the survey, Le Monde reported that between 2005 and 2010 the average consumption by the French dropped from 104.2 litres of alcohol per year to 96.7, while in the same period in the Middle East and Africa area it increased by 25%, from 11.7 billion litres to 15.2 billion.

They allow liquor for tourists but the rise in tourism cant match the rise in the consuption of liquor ....... Generalization is really dangerous.
 
but they don't booze at all- kuch bhi ho


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मोदी तो प्रधानमन्त्री बनान लायक आदमी स.... पर उसके गैल जो बीजेपी का गू गोबर स ( बाह्मण बानिये रीफुजी लीडर) .... उस ने कुण संग्वावेगा.... न्यू इ हरयाने में भजन लाल के छोरे गैल सगाई कर रे सें यह बी जे पी आले..... कोए सा एक दुसरे ने पार नहीं लगावे ....
 
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Aisa kya different tha 2002 mai??? Jo us time ke news reader the ek saal baad sabne aaj apne news chennal ki dukan khol li hai... kahan se aaya itna paisa??? tab se hi to kama ruhe hongae??? humare saamne aaj aa ruha hai... 1965 or 71 mai to itne news chennal nahi the... desh to tab bhi ek saath khada tha... media ko credit kahan se chla gaya desh ko joodne ka??? or media ke kuch constructive acts (pata nahi koun se???) and unke sare distructive acts pe parda dal sakta hai... but kisi state ki 10 saal ki growth se wahan se 6 din ke riots ko nahi bhulaya ja sakta... vo bhi jisme common log hi culprit the or common log hi victim... badhiya vichar hain... but bhai itna negative hona accha nahi hota...
To aap media ke role ko totally negative karar de rahein hai. Like everything in this word media has it black and white characters. And why I mentioned early 2000s is because in those days media wasnt infiltrated by corporates. Sir ji 1965 or 71 mein bhi media ka constructive role tha. The only difference was that it print media was private but tV media was state controlled. Anyways, this discussion on media's role is sideways to the main topic.


Bhai maine kya padha hai or kya nahi is par aap kaise comment kar sakte ho... maine pehle bhi kahan hai... aap apni raye kuch jayada jaldi bana lete ho... thoda time lagaya karo.. do-chao alag angle se socha karo fir raye banaya karo kisi ke bare mai... maine gulberg society ke bare mai padha bhi hai or dekha bhi hai... 2002 mai gulberg mai riot huae... ek bar in sawalo ke jawab likh dekha (as aapne kafi detail mai padha hoga... or aap ko sara ghatna karam bhi yaad hoga...)
1). riot to 2002 mai huae but jakia jafri ne first time modi ke aarop kab lagaya???
2). modi pe aarop lagane se pehle alag-alag investigation teams ne kitni bar jaika jafri ka statement liya tha???
3). jakia jafri ne ab tak kitni bar statement change kiya hai???
4). jakia jafri ko modi pe aarop lagane mai itna time kyon lag gaya???
5). CM office ke records main ehsaan jafri ki dialed ya incomming call record kyon nahi mila? mr jafri ke phone record mai bhi wahan ke local logo ke hi no mile (incomming and out going)??? ehsaan jafri telepathy se baat kar ruha tha kya modi se, jo ki baat bhi kar li or kahin koi record bhi nahi hai???
6). kuch or bhi hai... but pehle bhai inke hi jawab de do....
It isnt hard to delete records. Do you think it would have been the first time somebody in power would have deleted phone or official records? And you are doubting a frail 70 year old woman who has lost her husband. U

Bhai provoke karne ke liye age certificate ki jarurat hoti hai kya??? jo ye bol ruhe ho ki 70 saal ka aadmi kya provoke karega... mere dada ji 85 saal ke hain... teen din pehle mere dada ne mere chaha ke ladke ko provoke kar ke ek bechara rikhsha wala bihar pitwa diya... bhai provoke to koi bhai kar sakta hai... bas bolna hi to hai...
Har baat ko personal example de kar aap prove nahi kar sakte. When you are facing a blood thirsty mob of 1000 people, why would an old man provoke them? This is just an exuse to deflect blame.
Police Commissioner ka office 2 kilometre to kya agar gulberg society mai bhi hota... to 4500 log jinke pass hathyar hain, unke saamne Police Comm. kya karta... Again Vo bhi insaan hai Superman nahi hai bhai... or kitni baar bolu???... or agar vo police Comm wahin pe kafi sari force lagwa deta to kahin or jayada log mare jate... resources to limited hi hain jaisa ki maine pehle bola...
Waah ji ...kya baat hai. To iska matlab hai police apni responsibility chorh de. The police had firearms whereas the mob only had sticks, axes, swords etc. It would have taken a couple of shots in the air and the mob would have dissipated. But nothing was done because it was planned to let the mobs kill and take revenge on innocent people.

Bhai punjab ne 80 mai jo dekha vo terrorism tha... usko aap north east ke nexals se ya kashmir ke terrorism se to cmpare kar sakte ho but 10-15 din ke riots ke saath compare karna theek nahi hai... ek mai cold blodded killers hain jo plan kar ke logo ko marte hain/maarte the... or doosri taraf provoked logo ke gusse ka eruption hai...
You are right but the example was about police action when they have the power. In Guj's case the police were never given that power or worse asked to side beside and watch the show.
 
bhai eek meri baat ka bhi jawab dee dee naa....mullla nee train kyo jalai?thats wat i wana know..wasnt that planned by katwas...

Bhai aap sahi ho. Muslim mobs killed Hindu kar sewaks. But, now read this carefully, that doesnt justify Hindu mobs killing Muslim innocents with police help. If it was a mob vs. mob, it would have been fair. But in this case police turned the other way. That is the difference between the two cases.
 
or har koi baat karta h .. ki itne muslim mare gaye .. utne mare gaye ...... kisi ne ya nahi kah ki itne hindu mare gaye .......

Modi par ilzaam to tab lagate na jab pahel hinduon me muslims ko mara hota ......

it was mere a reaction to the action .....

or haan i criticize both .... but more criticism to the attack on hindus becaus that was planned avt which provoked the other section to retaliate ...


PERIOD............
Correction. Retaliate with police and state help. That is where the problem lies. The govt. cant take sides in a riot but it did and that's where Modi is guilty.
 
Correction. Retaliate with police and state help. That is where the problem lies. The govt. cant take sides in a riot but it did and that's where Modi is guilty.

Swaich जी ये पुलिस क्या होती है?? आप कही उनकी बात तो नहीं कर रहे जो रेहड़ी वाले को २ थप्पड़ मार के ५०/१०० रूपये छीन लेते है?? या उनकी बात कर रहे है जो एक आम स्कूटर/मोटरसाइकिल वालो को बीच सड़क में रोक कर रिश्वत मांगते है?? और वो रिश्वत देने से मना करे तो "CAUGHT BY CHASE " लिख देते है फ़साने के लिए?? या उनकी जो चुंगी पर हर ट्रक को छोड़ने के लिए 10 रूपये लेते है और पर्ची भी नहीं देते?? ओहो कही आप उनकी बात तो नहीं कर रहे जो दहेज़ का केस बना कर दोनों taraf से पैसे ऐंठ-ते है?? कृपया मार्ग-दर्शन करे! :)
 
Swaich जी ये पुलिस क्या होती है?? आप कही उनकी बात तो नहीं कर रहे जो रेहड़ी वाले को २ थप्पड़ मार के ५०/१०० रूपये छीन लेते है?? या उनकी बात कर रहे है जो एक आम स्कूटर/मोटरसाइकिल वालो को बीच सड़क में रोक कर रिश्वत मांगते है?? और वो रिश्वत देने से मना करे तो "CAUGHT BY CHASE " लिख देते है फ़साने के लिए?? या उनकी जो चुंगी पर हर ट्रक को छोड़ने के लिए 10 रूपये लेते है और पर्ची भी नहीं देते?? ओहो कही आप उनकी बात तो नहीं कर रहे जो दहेज़ का केस बना कर दोनों taraf से पैसे ऐंठ-ते है?? कृपया मार्ग-दर्शन करे! :)

Exactly. Wohi police jo apne likha wo sab karti hai. Fake encounter bh karti hai. Custody killing bhi karti hai. Same police.
 
@ media : Absolutely... I dont trust them at all. have a look at it "http://www.mediacrooks.com/". I dont know who is after this. He is doing a significant work. Please don't confuse with electronic or printed. You can trust them and follow them blindly brother, but i cant. And i am sorry for that. Aaj bhi war ho jaye or media na ho, tab bhi sab log gun utha langae, india ke liye... Unka jitna constructive role hain us-se kahin jayada distructive role hai... Reporter/Journalist ka kaam sirf news dena hota hai, usko khud hi sahi or galat declare karne ka nahi hota... agar vo sahi or galat ka decision lene lage to... vo biased ho jayangae or courts ki bhi jarurat nahi ruhegi... justice or result to media hi declare karne lag jayegi... Ab aap mugjhe ek news dikha do ki media news report karne ke baad apne views nahi deti... which ultimately impose their perception on the viewers and ultimately influence them to form an opinion, which media wants...

@Jakia jafri : Bhai.. Jakia jafri wale questions ka answer theek nahi mila... try again... Waise agar records delete hi ho gaye the... to case karne ke liye kahan se paida ho gaye...

@ provoke : Bhai, example galat ho to batao... kya humein kisi ko provoke karne ke liye age certificate ki jarurat hai kya? or ruhi baat, "why would an old man provoke a mob?" iska jawab ya to aap de sakte ho ya jakia jafri ya media...
Waise SIT said that they took statements of many ppl (45000 witnesses (many would be related to gulberg massacre) for 2002 riots, what in intensive investigation) and found that Mr. Jafri provoked the mob and there was no involvement of Mr. Modi in that incident. I dont know about you but i respect Judicial System of India.

@ Police action : brother few days back you have quoted something from a wikipedia page, may be you missed something putting here for your information... "Preventive arrests of 17,947 Hindus and 3,616 Muslims were made. In total 27,901 Hindus and 7,651 Muslims were arrested." Or ye itne arrests police ne apne firearms use kar ke hi kar hain, unhone red roses de kar rioters ko nahi pakda tha... If sill you are not able to sense the police action than I am sorry about your senses. I suggest you to visit a doc. I already said try tried their best but failed at some places. Jiasa ki maine pehle bhi mila hai ki police wale bhi normal insaan hai... superman nahi hain... how many times you have scored 100% in your academics...

@ Police power example : Not agree... how the hell terrorism can be compared with riots even to show the power of police? one involves intelligence, preparation, planning, strategy, equipment, time... and later happens all of a sudden just because of a small incident... mugjhe to police ki power jab dikhti hai jab ye dekhta hu ki gujarat mai 2002 ke baat riots nahi huae hain... aapko pata nahi kyon nahi dikhti...

over all... bhai debate karne ka ye tarika hota hai ki, kisi issue ke ek point ke discuss karo conclusion pe pahuncho or next point pe badh jao... next ko discuss karo... or us se next pe chle jao... mai modi or police ke unbiased action ke example bhi de du or uske baad bhi aap.. karan thaper ke tarike se aade raho to ye to "bhains ke aage been bajane wali baat ho gai"...

thoda accept karo bato ko... sahi cheez ko maan lene mai kya burai hai...

haan bhai saab ek baat or koi naya point ho to uthao... media ki honesty,jakia jafri ke doubts, ehansan jafri ka age certificate, police ke action, police ki power ke bare mai to to bahot baat ho gai hai... aapko convince karna, agree karna ya consent mai lena sirf mere points pe bhi to depend karta.. ye to sab se jayada is baat pe depend karta hai ki aap agree hona chante ho ya nahi...


To aap media ke role ko totally negative karar de rahein hai. Like everything in this word media has it black and white characters. And why I mentioned early 2000s is because in those days media wasnt infiltrated by corporates. Sir ji 1965 or 71 mein bhi media ka constructive role tha. The only difference was that it print media was private but tV media was state controlled. Anyways, this discussion on media's role is sideways to the main topic.



It isnt hard to delete records. Do you think it would have been the first time somebody in power would have deleted phone or official records? And you are doubting a frail 70 year old woman who has lost her husband.


Har baat ko personal example de kar aap prove nahi kar sakte. When you are facing a blood thirsty mob of 1000 people, why would an old man provoke them? This is just an exuse to deflect blame.

Waah ji ...kya baat hai. To iska matlab hai police apni responsibility chorh de. The police had firearms whereas the mob only had sticks, axes, swords etc. It would have taken a couple of shots in the air and the mob would have dissipated. But nothing was done because it was planned to let the mobs kill and take revenge on innocent people.


You are right but the example was about police action when they have the power. In Guj's case the police were never given that power or worse asked to side beside and watch the show.
 
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