sumitjattan
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Vikas i still believe its their future not Hindutva ... religion plays a major role for muslims not Hindus on a broader context
पी एम हो तो मोदी जैसा...........
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I was just talking about Modi, whom you said does not believe in politics of vandalism, which is absolutely not true. He started with riots, gave place to goons in his cabinet(Amit Shah), used people and left them for his ambitions(Maya Kodnani).... in short, he is no different than the rest.
what you said was true a few years ago but somehow I see things changing now. Check this facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/akhand1bharat?ref=stream and there are many more such, such use of online and mainstream media by right wingers has managed to create a wave of hinduism and it is going strong. Right or wrong, you be the judge.
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sumitjattan
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i dont know about Amit Shah or Maya Kodnani as politiacal blames are only politically motivated ......
and as far as Vandalism is concerned ... let me past the same dialogue
किसी हिन्दी पिक्चर मैं कहा था, इस शहर मैं एक ही गुंडा हो सकता है और वो गुंडा मैं हूँ... here its him not Shiv sena then ..but still never heard other then riots and we cant blame a single person for whole riots if this is the case then Rajiv Gandhi was the worse as he supported the genocide in 84 and a SAAB agent during the aircrafts deal .......
and as far as Vandalism is concerned ... let me past the same dialogue
किसी हिन्दी पिक्चर मैं कहा था, इस शहर मैं एक ही गुंडा हो सकता है और वो गुंडा मैं हूँ... here its him not Shiv sena then ..but still never heard other then riots and we cant blame a single person for whole riots if this is the case then Rajiv Gandhi was the worse as he supported the genocide in 84 and a SAAB agent during the aircrafts deal .......
I absolutely agree, he alone is not to be blamed but the rest are are facing court trials today many of whom are his close associates. But we can surely blame him for controlling the police, orchestrating the riots, supporting VHP and RSS by keeping mute and then not even sharing a remorse on what happened(because only 10% population in Guj is muslim? )
sumitjattan
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Judiciary and investigating agencies are there to prove his role and why he would remorse when our judicial system is there, and you are right, many people are in jail due to their role in Guj riots ...... how many get convicted for their roles in 1984 riots which are
just by one party worker .....all the rioters are either congress workers or their supporters .... and even after that they made Rajiv Gandhi as PM ... may I know why ?
just by one party worker .....all the rioters are either congress workers or their supporters .... and even after that they made Rajiv Gandhi as PM ... may I know why ?
To expect the least, on the grounds of Moral responsibility. Judiciary has made enough comments questioning his role in riots and even if they had not, a remorse is his responsibility to ensure safeguarding the interests of minorities.
Supreme court in Feb 2012 said that Modi even after riots is not safeguarding the interests of minorities and trying to save those who acted against them(Amit Shah in question)
If things in 1984 were wrong, it still does not justify 2002 , does it?
sumitjattan
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Nope just one is religion based and one to satisfy a dynasty .... Morals are gone long back from Indian Politics .... .. why he took responsibility when courts are there and its only in India where courts talk about moral values and to satisfy masses ...... Defenition of moral values differs from person to person ..if judiciary rose so many questions then why they did not put him behind the bars ... and more over this communal paranoia is the brain child of those parties which have no vision ..nothing to offer .
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To sum up- all political parties
Ek cup chai lo aur ye dekho: http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/prime-time/video-story/271847?hp Chai aur Rajneeti, dono ki chuskia kamaal ki aayengi
sumitjattan
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Kalli pi le, dont be a racist
rinkusheoran
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Let us not have the different yardstick to measure the same thing for different people. you find everything worng in Modi using PR machinery for his publicity and projecting hios work but what nitish is saying you find that absolutely fine. I was giving you another perception to the same thing. First you raised the JDU not supporting Modi will dampen his chance for candidature due to things that Nitish was saying and now you are saying what is wrong in that and i never said anything is wrong in that but it does shows person's credibility. Kahne ka matlab ye tha ki nitish kumar dudh ka dhula na hai.Let me give you another view, he is saying all this now to save his votebank from congres/rjd/LJP not from BJP because it was never BJP's votebank.
Again you took it in wrong direction when it comes to SS, they will be second fiddle to BJP this time in maharastra if this alliance stay otherwise BJP can go with MNS as well if Modi is declared candidate due to his proximity with Raj. If BJP will have chance then this same SS will have the post poll alliance.
AbhikRana
Vpji has his own ideology that he believes in and it is purely coincidental that it matches congress's ideology
रिंके, सुपने का के सै, सुपने मै तो बेरा ना किसे किसे co-incidence हो ज्याया करैं I काल मन्नै भी एक आळ-जंजाल देख्या, नीचे वर्णन करूँ सूं I
हे रै के सुपने का जिकर करूं मै, सुण सुपने का चाला,
बेह्माता कंप्यूटर घड़ रही, सब्तैं अज़ब निराला I
बणा फ्रेम पायरेसी का, असली का टैग टिकाया ,
हिन्दुस्तान के मदरबोर्ड पै, इंटेल का लेबल लाया,
मेड इन चाइना चिप्स मंगाए, ताइवान का माल बताया I
फेर पायरेसी के इस हार्डवेयर मै, नकली ऐप्स लगाये,
लगा के लेबल माइक्रौसौफ़्ट के, घणे जुगाड़ बिठाये I
बिसनेस की तिकड़म बाज़ी मै, टाटा को फोन घुमाया,
फेर बेह्माता का जुगाड़ टाटा नै, अमरीका भिजवाया I
सुबह हुई और आँख खुली, तो फ़ेर co-incidence सा पाया I
धुंधली सी परछाई मै कंप्यूटर गायब होग्या अर एक छोरा बणके आया I
तो भाई, तेरा भी यो सुपना ए होगा, अर सपने कभी हकीकत नहीं होते I इण पै भरोसा ना करया कर I
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rinkusheoran
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Vpji, Meri iss post ka jawab to desi ne ussi din de dia tha n aapne like ka button bhi daab dia tha.Mere khyal tain aap kavita k tarike se jawab dena chahte the tabhi itne in lag gaye sayad
Dreaming about your ideology will be the last thing that will happen to me however your political ideology is very much evident from your bipartisan approach in your writing and i'm not the first person to point it out and you know it very well too.
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Hooda for pm?
Haryana ahead of Gujarat in development parameters: Hooda
"When my friend Mr Modi came to SRCC in Delhi University, I heard him saying that anybody in Delhi who takes cup of tea, he drinks milk from Gujarat. My dear, per capita production in Gujarat is hardly 500 grams and per capita production of milk in Haryana is 780 grams per person," he said.
Resources mobilisation...It is 96.5 percent in Gujarat, ub Haryana it is 192 percent (in 11th Plan).
Highlighting achievements of his government, Hooda said Haryana has attracted investments to the tune of Rs 60,000- 70,000 crore since 2005 as compared to Rs 41,000 crore between 1996 and 2005.
Haryana ahead of Gujarat in development parameters: Hooda
"When my friend Mr Modi came to SRCC in Delhi University, I heard him saying that anybody in Delhi who takes cup of tea, he drinks milk from Gujarat. My dear, per capita production in Gujarat is hardly 500 grams and per capita production of milk in Haryana is 780 grams per person," he said.
Resources mobilisation...It is 96.5 percent in Gujarat, ub Haryana it is 192 percent (in 11th Plan).
Highlighting achievements of his government, Hooda said Haryana has attracted investments to the tune of Rs 60,000- 70,000 crore since 2005 as compared to Rs 41,000 crore between 1996 and 2005.
sanjeev1984
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Nice to see that GUJARAT is a scale(benchmark) to check and compare the development of different Indian States and Modi is a scale to leadership of those states...
and the good part is that Mr. Hooda (or congress) is talking about DEVELOPMENT now...
and the good part is that Mr. Hooda (or congress) is talking about DEVELOPMENT now...
1. Bhuppi is not a good speaker!
2. He stammers all the time! Sometimes its hard to understand what he is trying to say!
3. Budget deficit has increased substantially during his tenure.
4. Corruption has increased many folds in his tenure.
5. PSU like HBVN are in big loss. High Court summoned Haryana Govt to do something about it. But no step has been taken so far to get rid of losses.
6. Infrastructure is a shame in Haryana. KMP highway was promised to be completed by 2011 but so far its nowhere to be completed. Gurgaon is another example of poor infrastructure.
7. No efforts have been made to cut red tape and effective administration.
8. Shoddy deals all across. Be it tenders of infrastructure projects or handing land to real estate developers. or Nepotism in recruitment.
There may be many points like these. Bhuppi's performance is good in corruption, nepotism, favoritism and eyewash public etc.
2. He stammers all the time! Sometimes its hard to understand what he is trying to say!
3. Budget deficit has increased substantially during his tenure.
4. Corruption has increased many folds in his tenure.
5. PSU like HBVN are in big loss. High Court summoned Haryana Govt to do something about it. But no step has been taken so far to get rid of losses.
6. Infrastructure is a shame in Haryana. KMP highway was promised to be completed by 2011 but so far its nowhere to be completed. Gurgaon is another example of poor infrastructure.
7. No efforts have been made to cut red tape and effective administration.
8. Shoddy deals all across. Be it tenders of infrastructure projects or handing land to real estate developers. or Nepotism in recruitment.
There may be many points like these. Bhuppi's performance is good in corruption, nepotism, favoritism and eyewash public etc.
malikdeepak1
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Bhai vicky84, bhuppi ka tagda analysis kar diya... ek baat bhul gya par bhai..
"daakiya" hai.. :victorious:
"daakiya" hai.. :victorious:
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