Rohtak in news again for honor killing!!

They must understand the power of LOVE. Implant love in there kids for family, society, nation, culture. So that kids themselves will understand the harm they are doing by such acts to the family, society, nation and culture. If they are in love with all these the so called Valentine kinda love will not affect them in person and society in large. Loha lohe ko kat-ta hai aur Heera Heere ko to Pyar ko Pyar se katna padega... Else we will see conflict growing within our society with the influence of these western funded NGOs and Media and MNC marketing.

Samarkadian said:
Hello Love Commando,

You know how hard is it for a person to slap their kids? And this is the killing? Do you think was it easy ? Are they professional and really enjoyed doing it? what should these ''morons' must understand as per your ''angelic'' sense?
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Still to watch the video but first thing my eyes stopped were in the caption below video frame on the link... see highlighted ....

[h=2]"A chilling and gruesome murder of a young couple in Rohtak in Haryana for their inter-caste love affair in public view has yet again exposed the complete apathy of political parties who are complicit in their silence on caste-based atrocities. Also a special guest from the militant belt of Khyber Pakhtunkwah, blogging from Malala's town"[/h]
This proves how serious these journos are about any issue. They even dont bother to know what the actual issue was.

SumitJattan said:
You know what i have respect for you but people like you are the reason of division between jats on the basis of region .... let me tell you why only haryana highlighted because we have a hell lot of these active well fare associations ( one headed by Jagmati Sangwan) working there and education always imparts a sense of resistance whether you like it or not its these resistances due to eduation , economic independence , some what global approach end up in these honor killings and dont tell me these things happen only in Haryana but these type incidents are possible any where and they have nothing to do with caste , killing is the most henious crime .... If you cant morn on their deaths then please dont convert this in mud slugging and dont start distrebuting these character certificates here , Its a social problem and we have to think for solutions as per one analyst the such incidents are more in western UP but unreported . I have pasted one link and in first 3 mins you will come to know why only Haryana is highlighted

http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/th...arties-silent-bjp-congress/291210?vod-related

Listen to the comments of the person who did research has already pointed western UP .
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there was a tv show on NDTV KHAP AUR APP
raveesh..was the one who was conducting that show ..his agenda from the first word was.thrash jats....he started like milkha singh.....123 go.............

there were jats from khaps they defended like sushil kumar first by judging then by patkani.......

few points that i liked from the debate.......
1.khap have existed from centuries.....they have been protecting honour of our community.......why hue and cry now........
yashpal malik gave good answer......
he said most of the land around delhi is in hands of jats .....by breaking family bonds they can easily sell dreams of urban India.....like we are seeing our new rich brothers what they do after selling their lands.......more money .more market.....more materialistic slaves of lifestyle cult amoung jats...........more profit to MNCS

their were some jat ladies....... one malik who has married into some other caste.......they were on top of their voice as if they are out of .......taliban and now first time in life enjoying free air to breath..........
khub taliya padd rahi thi jabb khap aur jatto ki bhadd piti jaa rahi thi........

some suggested changing Hindu marriage act........


we can start at home giving education to kids but can we face the might of MNCS who are hell bent on destroying family institution.......
every parent tells beta ...sharab matt peena buri cheez hai.......90% are sharabi hamre constitution mai directive principal of state policies mai......intoxicating substance ko rakne ki baat hai......parr MNCS ke samne sab bekar.....

beta padhai karr lo ...bohot competition hai 99% fail to study then blame on others for their failure.......

beta cigratte matt pina.....90% smoke it.....arguments yaar tashann ke liye peeta hu.....yaarr coool lagunga......

now parents will say beta-beti apne hii gotra mai shaadi matt karna........you know what will be the result.......

app khud hi jaudge karr lo 1990s k liberalisation ke baad haamre rishte kitne .......kamzoor ho chuke hai....thode din pehle news mai thaa...ladke ne apni chacheri behan ko ghar se bhagaya.........bhagwan kiya hoga iss desh kaa......

realistic hoke keh raha hu......barbaadi ke keetaanu har taraf hai..apne ko baccha lo bass iss kal yug mai itna karr liya wohi kaai hai........yeh barbaadi koi nahi rook sakta.......

jab aaj ka youth pagla gay hai to app kiya karr sakte ho batao........

example......bhai kapde harr koi kharidta hai......mai bhi saal mai 3-4(max) pair aur jarrorat hinahi padti.......my cousin bought 5 pair of dresses kam se kam 20 hazar ki aayee hongi....agar kisi ko daan dene ko kaho to 20 rupay mai dil fhaat kar bahr ghir jayega.......abb batao kiya kare paisa hona thik hai...parr mncs ka gulaam hona galat........
 
annch said:
Didn't realize I will be touching a raw nerve in so many people....my sincere apologies!!!:)

If you care to read more posts that my post you quoted was in reply to, it is perfectly fine what a guy says to a woman of his own community in the garb of HIS higher "IQ", because she asked for it......

Awesome!!! I seriously rest my case....
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..now I really pity on "top-of-the top" academicians and "critcial reasoning" concept ..:)....

oh!!..forgot!.."IQ" also came in fresh......... phewwwwwwww!
 
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soniadabas said:
I agree that it is not easy to kill your own child . But then why to kill your own child when it will do no good to anyone.

Instead find a solution to it .
1.Make the boy and Girl live in different places. Send them to there relatives for a year or two.If this doesnot work they Try the second one.
2.Most the youngsters who elope have not seen the reality, they live in an illusion .
I am sure if you make them face the real world, let them earn there bread n butter , they will understand what mistake they have done. Its not so easy to survive without a support system.


Killing for sure is not a solution to any problem . Had it been, than this case would not have happened,
as many such couples were brutally killed in the past.
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Sonia, you are absolutely right, but here you should also realize that all people don't have such thinking/wisdom. The parents who have such ideology, then it is most unlikely their kids will indulge in such same gotra marriage or eloping like things.
I think that if boy and girl have eloped and married even, then be in touch with them. Parents can change residence/village, but if they don't then too no one cares. I have seen many parents living quite pride despite their girl eloped with someone. After some years eloped boy and girl may feel that they were wrong and they can opt to divorce as in mostly cases happen. Then give them a chance. Get them divorced and remarry them in different gotras properly. If such girl is married to some divorcee man then life may be on track again. Same applies for the boy.
In this hell like world where mostly boys and girls are characterless and have a lot of relations before marriage, there some people kill the boy and girl because they fell in love. It is because of ignorance. This ignorance should be removed. If I am a bad charactered person, but my brother is a noble person, then mostly chances are my brother will still get honour and me not. So if someone's daughter or son elopes, but one is good person, then his life is not going to be affected too much. If one changes residence, then quite not, but if one doesn't then too, if one knows art of living.
 
anil_rathee said:
They must understand the power of LOVE. Implant love in there kids for family, society, nation, culture. So that kids themselves will understand the harm they are doing by such acts to the family, society, nation and culture. If they are in love with all these the so called Valentine kinda love will not affect them in person and society in large. Loha lohe ko kat-ta hai aur Heera Heere ko to Pyar ko Pyar se katna padega... Else we will see conflict growing within our society with the influence of these western funded NGOs and Media and MNC marketing.
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Besides all lovy dovy wishy-washy ideas of yours, fact is that whole world is going to be one civilization one day i.e Western Civilization in present times of consumerism. Many fellow Jatlanders are making it a parenthood issue which it is not completely. It is a result of many things prime of which is the transition of our whole Jat community since 1990s. Further it is not the problem only Jat community facing. Most community are facing such unforeseen challenges. Late Teenage to early twenties is one of the most corrupt times of the life. Negative things are captured easily and sadly, they will be paid back in such fashion. Untill and unless we dont have one common roof in the form like SGPC/Deoband and some common minimum laws directly etc. people are nt going to be interested much in gotra system and social fabric will loose apart sooner or later. In another post I asked a fellow Jatlander abt Psychology of Honour. Its very important to understand why honour becomes so important that it makes one normal individual in to a brutal killer. I hope we can discuss peacefully about Honour now. In past I had started a thread which almost went un-noticed on the same issue, where I raised some questions.

Reproducing them here http://www.jatland.com/forums/showt...gical-and-cognitive-aspects-of-Honour-Killing
 
Samarkadian said:
Besides all lovy dovy wishy-washy ideas of yours, fact is that whole world is going to be one civilization one day i.e Western Civilization in present times of consumerism. Many fellow Jatlanders are making it a parenthood issue which it is not completely. It is a result of many things prime of which is the transition of our whole Jat community since 1990s. Further it is not the problem only Jat community facing. Most community are facing such unforeseen challenges. Late Teenage to early twenties is one of the most corrupt times of the life. Negative things are captured easily and sadly, they will be paid back in such fashion. Untill and unless we dont have one common roof in the form like SGPC/Deoband and some common minimum laws directly etc. people are nt going to be interested much in gotra system and social fabric will loose apart sooner or later. In another post I asked a fellow Jatlander abt Psychology of Honour. Its very important to understand why honour becomes so important that it makes one normal individual in to a brutal killer. I hope we can discuss peacefully about Honour now. In past I had started a thread which almost went un-noticed on the same issue, where I raised some questions.

Reproducing them here http://www.jatland.com/forums/showt...gical-and-cognitive-aspects-of-Honour-Killing
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Is honour saved only by killing girls who are marrying in same gotta! What about those sons who r turning into goons No one kills them or disown them.honour term has been used very convinently to cover up murder in these cases.
 
You can mock, be sarcastic.....the facts will still remain the same-those academicians will stay top of the top, critical reasoning will stay what it is. Unfortunately I am not blessed with your intelligence, so I had no choice but to seek the opportunity to learn...
prashantacmet said:
..now I really pity on "top-of-the top" academicians and "critcial reasoning" concept ..:)....

oh!!..forgot!.."IQ" also came in fresh......... phewwwwwwww!
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ritu said:
Is honour saved only by killing girls who are marrying in same gotta! What about those sons who r turning into goons No one kills them or disown them.honour term has been used very convinently to cover up murder in these cases.
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Honour killing if you have noticed is being done on both i.e boy and girl. Turning in to a goons or a criminal brings no proud to the family either but again its not a conjugational affair. I simple asked what is psychology of the honour irrespective to the family of the boy or girl.
 
Agreed but i am just referring to the reason why these things are highlighted in Haryana with such a glittering .. I still remember how they presented Sandy last year and my parents spent a sleepless night even after having voice contact ... but the media was right in highligting that there is something happened and use your Critical reasoning ;) to analyze whats right and whats wrong :) ..... in then end media is also a business like any other corporate where profit is the ultimate goal so dont take them ultimate

anil_rathee said:
Still to watch the video but first thing my eyes stopped were in the caption below video frame on the link... see highlighted ....

"A chilling and gruesome murder of a young couple in Rohtak in Haryana for their inter-caste love affair in public view has yet again exposed the complete apathy of political parties who are complicit in their silence on caste-based atrocities. Also a special guest from the militant belt of Khyber Pakhtunkwah, blogging from Malala's town"


This proves how serious these journos are about any issue. They even dont bother to know what the actual issue was.
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Samarkadian said:
Honour killing if you have noticed is being done on both i.e boy and girl. Turning in to a goons or a criminal brings no proud to the family either but again its not a conjugational affair. I simple asked what is psychology of the honour irrespective to the family of the boy or girl.
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I never heard honour killing committed by boys family!!boys families kill their daughter in law in the name of dowry!!
 
ritu said:
boys families kill their daughter in law in the name of dowry!!
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Although it is not related to the topic but not sure if that is the ONLY way it is true, or should be seen that way. A good discussion on the misuse of dowry law by woman, their families too and there are a lot of stories in rural belt how woman misuse this law too.

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desijat said:
Although it is not related to the topic but not sure if that is the ONLY way it is true, or should be seen that way. A good discussion on the misuse of dowry law by woman, their families too and there are a lot of stories in rural belt how woman misuse this law too.

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i m not saying it based on what media n tv says . Last yr my sister In law( my huband cousin)was murderedby her husband. In India all laws are being misused . A rapist can go free on the name if being juvenile.
 
I agree that most of it has to do with girls beings victims but there is an increasing trend that the same law is misused by girls too. Even Supreme Court had to rule that sex with consent later charged as rape will not a cognizable offence, and there were a lot of cases like that.

ritu said:
i m not saying it based on what media n tv says . Last yr my sister In law( my huband cousin)was murderedby her husband. In India all laws are being misused . A rapist can go free on the name if being juvenile.
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desijat said:
I agree that most of it has to do with girls beings victims but there is an increasing trend that the same law is misused by girls too. Even Supreme Court had to rule that sex with consent later charged as rape will not a cognizable offence, and there were a lot of cases like that.
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I think then girls killed in womb will be the only genuine female victims!!!
 
ritu said:
i m not saying it based on what media n tv says . Last yr my sister In law( my huband cousin)was murderedby her husband. In India all laws are being misused . A rapist can go free on the name if being juvenile.
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India is a random system where only the laws of chaotic theory apply. Everything has a significant probability. It will remain this way unless there is strong enough organizing force. Those who remember the intermediate class "Magnetic lines of force" experiment will be able to understand easily what I am trying to say.

RK^2
 
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