Serial bomb blasts at Modi rally in Patna, 5 killed several injured
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prashantacmet
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I checked ndtv now and tehy have cleaned out "blast" news from their portal...and turned on old propaganda "modi versus congress".. looks like no one give a damn if there is some blast and 5-10 people die. Just imagine if they have got something like "bhagwa terrorism" it would have hyped like never before..... waah re media
And I was seeing Ravish's show and he clarified why, he said if BJP didnt care about what happenes and moved on to set their political agenda, so should we
prashantacmet
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does it make sense?..if BJP falls in well , media also follow him..media responsibility is tied with BJP action?...silliest comment from a reputed reporter of such a big media house
You should be thankful to him for his confession that he is not a journo but a political party(INC) worker who sets political agenda for his party through NDTV.
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rajatsingh
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Did BJP know there were no more bombs in Gandhi Maidan at Patna?
Why was BJP’s Hunkar meeting allowed to continue in Gandhi Maidan at Patna despite a bomb exploding inside the Maidan just 20 minutes before Modi and other leaders of BJP were to start the meeting? Despite the explosions, who gave the clearance to hold the meeting is a mystery since if there were more bombs in the huge maidan where 1000s had gathered, hundreds of lives would have been endangered. Even a rumour of another bomb threat at the venue could have led to a devastating stampede. The organizers of the meeting are as responsible for the lives and limbs of the people they invite to their meetings as the law enforcing agencies.
When 6 bombs explode in the city of Patna including 1 inside the venue – wouldn’t a complete evacuation of the maidan followed by an extensive search be the only option before the law enforcement agencies? It is a well known procedure that even in case of a bomb threat the police evacuates all areas in the vicinity of the threat and does not permit any person to enter the area till the area is confirmed to have been santized. Wouldn’t the local police be responsible for not cancelling the permission of the meeting once they knew that a bomb has exploded inside the venue? Who would now take the responsibility of such an irresponsible act of continuing the Hunkar meeting which is being passed off as an act of bravery? Or did the BJP leaders know there were no more bombs?
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Why was BJP’s Hunkar meeting allowed to continue in Gandhi Maidan at Patna despite a bomb exploding inside the Maidan just 20 minutes before Modi and other leaders of BJP were to start the meeting? Despite the explosions, who gave the clearance to hold the meeting is a mystery since if there were more bombs in the huge maidan where 1000s had gathered, hundreds of lives would have been endangered. Even a rumour of another bomb threat at the venue could have led to a devastating stampede. The organizers of the meeting are as responsible for the lives and limbs of the people they invite to their meetings as the law enforcing agencies.
When 6 bombs explode in the city of Patna including 1 inside the venue – wouldn’t a complete evacuation of the maidan followed by an extensive search be the only option before the law enforcement agencies? It is a well known procedure that even in case of a bomb threat the police evacuates all areas in the vicinity of the threat and does not permit any person to enter the area till the area is confirmed to have been santized. Wouldn’t the local police be responsible for not cancelling the permission of the meeting once they knew that a bomb has exploded inside the venue? Who would now take the responsibility of such an irresponsible act of continuing the Hunkar meeting which is being passed off as an act of bravery? Or did the BJP leaders know there were no more bombs?
Image courtesy Indian Expressatamjeet78
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Modis respect increased many folds in my eyes. This is what is called a brave and strong leader.
As per reports security staff was advising him going to ground and continuing with the rally, but he showed the leadership and said he cannot leave 5-7 lakh people on there own. He controlled and managed the crowd very well. Think of what could have been left of Patana has the mob of 5 lakhs people went on rioting.
It is evident from videos of rally he was nervous and drinking lot of water but has there been any other politician in his place they would have chickened out.
NaMo totally deserve to be the PM
As per reports security staff was advising him going to ground and continuing with the rally, but he showed the leadership and said he cannot leave 5-7 lakh people on there own. He controlled and managed the crowd very well. Think of what could have been left of Patana has the mob of 5 lakhs people went on rioting.
It is evident from videos of rally he was nervous and drinking lot of water but has there been any other politician in his place they would have chickened out.
NaMo totally deserve to be the PM
rajpaldular
Active member
चूँकि वो कहते हैं कि मुज़फ्फरनगर दंगों का बदला लेने के लिए बम विस्फोट किये।
और मुज़फ्फर नगर है उत्तरप्रदेश में। रैली थी गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री की बिहार में। तो विस्फोट उनकी रैली में क्यों हुए?
क्योंकि सपा ने कहा था कि दंगे अमित शाह ने करवाए। क्योंकि कांग्रेस चिल्ला रही थी कि मोदी दंगे करवा रहे हैं।
क्योंकि सेक्युलर जमात हिन्दुओं को दंगे करने का आरोपी बता रही थी।
जबकि दंगे तो स्थानीय संघर्ष का परिणाम थे।
अर्थात दंगों का आरोप मढ़कर हिन्दुओं और मोदी के विरुद्ध घृणा फैलाई 'सेक्युलर' जमात ने, 'पवित्र' दलों ने।
और इस प्रकार आतंकियों को बम धमाके करने के लिए उकसाया इन्ही लोगों ने।
इसलिए इन 'सेकुलरों' के हाथ निर्दोषों के खून से सने हैं। निर्दोषों की मृत्यु के अपराधी भी यही हैं। ये सपा और ये कांग्रेस।
क्या माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय इस तथ्य पर स्वतः संज्ञान लेगा?
क्या चुनाव आयोग इन आतंकवादी दलों पर प्रतिबन्ध लगाएगा?
पता नहीं !
किन्तु जनता तो इन्हें दंड दे ही सकती है?
चुनाव निकट ही हैं।
अपने निष्पाप भाइयों की हत्या को भूल ना जाना मित्रों।
और मुज़फ्फर नगर है उत्तरप्रदेश में। रैली थी गुजरात के मुख्यमंत्री की बिहार में। तो विस्फोट उनकी रैली में क्यों हुए?
क्योंकि सपा ने कहा था कि दंगे अमित शाह ने करवाए। क्योंकि कांग्रेस चिल्ला रही थी कि मोदी दंगे करवा रहे हैं।
क्योंकि सेक्युलर जमात हिन्दुओं को दंगे करने का आरोपी बता रही थी।
जबकि दंगे तो स्थानीय संघर्ष का परिणाम थे।
अर्थात दंगों का आरोप मढ़कर हिन्दुओं और मोदी के विरुद्ध घृणा फैलाई 'सेक्युलर' जमात ने, 'पवित्र' दलों ने।
और इस प्रकार आतंकियों को बम धमाके करने के लिए उकसाया इन्ही लोगों ने।
इसलिए इन 'सेकुलरों' के हाथ निर्दोषों के खून से सने हैं। निर्दोषों की मृत्यु के अपराधी भी यही हैं। ये सपा और ये कांग्रेस।
क्या माननीय सर्वोच्च न्यायालय इस तथ्य पर स्वतः संज्ञान लेगा?
क्या चुनाव आयोग इन आतंकवादी दलों पर प्रतिबन्ध लगाएगा?
पता नहीं !
किन्तु जनता तो इन्हें दंड दे ही सकती है?
चुनाव निकट ही हैं।
अपने निष्पाप भाइयों की हत्या को भूल ना जाना मित्रों।
akshaymalik84
Active member
Statement released by the BJP's leader of opposition in the Rajya Sabha:
Yesterday on Oct. 27, 2013, a mass “Hunkar” Rally was organized in Patna by the BJP. The rally was addressed by Shri Raj Nath Singh, President (BJP), Shri Narender Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat and BJP nominee for Prime Ministership in the 2014 General Elections and myself. Besides a large number of leaders of the Bihar BJP addressed the rally. The rally was a huge success. It was defining moment both for the poll prospects for the BJP in Bihar and for the run up to the 2014 General Elections. Never has a rally of this size and enthusiasm being witnessed in Patna ever before at the historic Gandhi Maidan. The huge success of the rally clearly indicates that the people of Bihar as also the cadres of the BJP have been fully galvanized in order to bring about a change of Govt. both at Centre and at Patna.
What happened in Patna inside and around the rally in terms of bomb blasts organized allegedly by the Indian Mujahideen is a matter of deep concern. These blasts and attacks are condemnable. We express our condolences to the families of those innocents who have lost their lives or have been injured in these blasts. These blasts are a grim reminder of the vulnerability of the security of both senior leaders and political events being organized in the run up to the elections.
The Chief Minister of Bihar and the police officials have said that there was no intelligence alert with regard to this terrorist attack. This does not appear to be factually correct. A general alert was sounded by the Intelligence Bureau on Oct. 1st, 2013 in a letter to various states including the Director General of Police of Bihar with regard to the Indian Mujahideen planning to organize strikes in different cities. A specific alert was sent to the Bihar police by the Central Intelligence Bureau on 23rd Oct. 2013 with regard to the rally to be addressed by Shri Narender Modi in Patna. The letter number of this alert was v-111/PA/2013 (3). This alert was specific enough to mention that the IM modules could organize strikes during Shri Narender Modi’s Patna visit. A reference to the arrest of Bhatkal, an information emanating from another source was also mentioned.
Earlier in the morning, just as rally began the news of a blast in the toilet of the Patna railway station was broadcast. Surely this could not be passed off as one of the events since the venue, time and the date have already been chosen. A very large number of participants in the rally were arriving in the morning by trains. A blast at the railway station was aimed to spread panic in the whole city.
I personally reached the venue of the rally behind the stage at 12.10 pm. Two officers of the Gujarat police took me aside and told me that it was not safe to continue the rally in view of the inadequate security measures which have been deployed even though there were a large number of policemen and home guards around the venue of the rally. I was told by these two officers that Advance Security Liaison (ASL) which is necessary when a Chief Minister of another state is visiting had not been adequately carried out. There were no anti-sabotage checks or a full dress rehearsal undertaken in the required manner. Frisking of participants who came to attend the rally at various entry points have not been substantially undertaken. These two officers further informed me that blasts around and inside of the venue of the rally had already taken place and it was not safe for the Chief Minister of Gujarat to leave the airport and reach the rally. In the meanwhile, the President (BJP) Shri Raj Nath Singh also arrived. While we were discussing this, another major blast took place inside the rally. This resulted in a large number of participants getting scared and running for shelter. Some of them even left the venue of the rally. I requested some junior police officers of the Bihar police that I would like to discuss the issue with the senior officer of the Bihar police present at the site and take their advice. A young lady police officer came up to discuss the issue with me. I asked her whether to continue the rally is safe or not. I was worried that if BJP leaders and particularly Shri Narender Modi did not address the rally the enthusiastic crowd would surge to the dais. Some would panic because of the security threat and leading to stampede which could result in many fatalities. I asked the lady officer that if there was any evacuation plan ready. She replied that she would speak to her senior, the SSP. Thereafter, no police officer of Bihar contacted us or spoke to us. We were thus left below the stage to decide the future course of action on our own. Meanwhile, Shri Narender Modi disregarding security advice left the airport for the venue of the rally. We decided that to discontinue the rally would encourage the terrorists and would definitely result in a riot, panic and stampede. We, therefore, decided to take a conscious risk of going to the dais and continue the rally. We decided that we would shorten the time of the rally in case any untoward incident further took place. The police officers from Gujarat started preparing the evacuation plan behind the stage for the leaders. In order to avoid the generation of any panic, a responsible BJP state leader appealed to the crowd not to blast any cracker in order to give confidence level to the crowd. Just as we climbed down the dais, some of those who had left the rally venue re-filled the ground again and we were back to addressing a jam-packed Maidan. The rest we had left to our luck and good fortune that no further blasts took place. Indeed some blast explosives have been left behind which did not explode. I was informed by the Gujarat police officers that the arrest of one of the accused could have scared the others to run away which prevented any further damage.
I have highlighted my experience yesterday in detail in order to emphasize the point that India cannot afford to be either soft on terror or soft on security. A policy against terror and the need for the security cannot be relatable to the policy of the vote bank politics of a given Government. There have been reports in the media that when the Central Intelligence and security agencies intercepted and arrested Yasin Bhatkal, the Bihar police for obvious political reasons or reluctance to receive his custody. The NIA had to be flown to Raksol in order to take his custody. An indiscreet media brief by an official in Delhi had led to some targets of investigation disappearing from the net of the investigators. Has this blast was planned by some of those who had disappeared? At several rallies addresses by Shri Narender Modi, frisking of crowd and regulation of entry points was necessary. The very fact that explosives, detonators and timers had entered the venue of the rally establishes that these mandatory checks were not done. Was the entire ground sanitized for anti-sabotage check? When the Gujarat police offices were advising us to abandon the rally rather than go to the dais, their concern primarily was that these had not been done. Have the state police organization in Bihar and else where made themselves technically compliant to deal with the kind of tactics and machinery employed by terrorist organizations ? This issue is one of national concern. Govt. of Bihar cannot draw satisfaction from the fact that it had undertaken all the measures required to provide security. Facts speak themselves. The very fact that such large-scale infiltration of terrorists and explosives have taken place is an evidence of the fact that the required preparations were not done. This attack coming in this backdrop clearly establishes the extent of radicalization which took place in the state.
I compliment the state leaders of the BJP and the lacks of people who have come to attend the rally for displaying exemplary bravery in averting a major accident. The consequences of panic would have been very frightened.
This is an attack on Shri Narender Modi and other senior BJP leaders. It was intended to intimidate our party which has vowed with greater determination to fight these tendencies. The ministry of home affairs and the govt. of India should seriously review the security of Shri Narender Modi who has been travelling to various parts of the country and ensure that no such incident is repeated in future. The party demands that there should be a high-level inquiry which should dispassionately look into the lapses which took place which have resulted in this monumental failure.
Yesterday on Oct. 27, 2013, a mass “Hunkar” Rally was organized in Patna by the BJP. The rally was addressed by Shri Raj Nath Singh, President (BJP), Shri Narender Modi, Chief Minister of Gujarat and BJP nominee for Prime Ministership in the 2014 General Elections and myself. Besides a large number of leaders of the Bihar BJP addressed the rally. The rally was a huge success. It was defining moment both for the poll prospects for the BJP in Bihar and for the run up to the 2014 General Elections. Never has a rally of this size and enthusiasm being witnessed in Patna ever before at the historic Gandhi Maidan. The huge success of the rally clearly indicates that the people of Bihar as also the cadres of the BJP have been fully galvanized in order to bring about a change of Govt. both at Centre and at Patna.
What happened in Patna inside and around the rally in terms of bomb blasts organized allegedly by the Indian Mujahideen is a matter of deep concern. These blasts and attacks are condemnable. We express our condolences to the families of those innocents who have lost their lives or have been injured in these blasts. These blasts are a grim reminder of the vulnerability of the security of both senior leaders and political events being organized in the run up to the elections.
The Chief Minister of Bihar and the police officials have said that there was no intelligence alert with regard to this terrorist attack. This does not appear to be factually correct. A general alert was sounded by the Intelligence Bureau on Oct. 1st, 2013 in a letter to various states including the Director General of Police of Bihar with regard to the Indian Mujahideen planning to organize strikes in different cities. A specific alert was sent to the Bihar police by the Central Intelligence Bureau on 23rd Oct. 2013 with regard to the rally to be addressed by Shri Narender Modi in Patna. The letter number of this alert was v-111/PA/2013 (3). This alert was specific enough to mention that the IM modules could organize strikes during Shri Narender Modi’s Patna visit. A reference to the arrest of Bhatkal, an information emanating from another source was also mentioned.
Earlier in the morning, just as rally began the news of a blast in the toilet of the Patna railway station was broadcast. Surely this could not be passed off as one of the events since the venue, time and the date have already been chosen. A very large number of participants in the rally were arriving in the morning by trains. A blast at the railway station was aimed to spread panic in the whole city.
I personally reached the venue of the rally behind the stage at 12.10 pm. Two officers of the Gujarat police took me aside and told me that it was not safe to continue the rally in view of the inadequate security measures which have been deployed even though there were a large number of policemen and home guards around the venue of the rally. I was told by these two officers that Advance Security Liaison (ASL) which is necessary when a Chief Minister of another state is visiting had not been adequately carried out. There were no anti-sabotage checks or a full dress rehearsal undertaken in the required manner. Frisking of participants who came to attend the rally at various entry points have not been substantially undertaken. These two officers further informed me that blasts around and inside of the venue of the rally had already taken place and it was not safe for the Chief Minister of Gujarat to leave the airport and reach the rally. In the meanwhile, the President (BJP) Shri Raj Nath Singh also arrived. While we were discussing this, another major blast took place inside the rally. This resulted in a large number of participants getting scared and running for shelter. Some of them even left the venue of the rally. I requested some junior police officers of the Bihar police that I would like to discuss the issue with the senior officer of the Bihar police present at the site and take their advice. A young lady police officer came up to discuss the issue with me. I asked her whether to continue the rally is safe or not. I was worried that if BJP leaders and particularly Shri Narender Modi did not address the rally the enthusiastic crowd would surge to the dais. Some would panic because of the security threat and leading to stampede which could result in many fatalities. I asked the lady officer that if there was any evacuation plan ready. She replied that she would speak to her senior, the SSP. Thereafter, no police officer of Bihar contacted us or spoke to us. We were thus left below the stage to decide the future course of action on our own. Meanwhile, Shri Narender Modi disregarding security advice left the airport for the venue of the rally. We decided that to discontinue the rally would encourage the terrorists and would definitely result in a riot, panic and stampede. We, therefore, decided to take a conscious risk of going to the dais and continue the rally. We decided that we would shorten the time of the rally in case any untoward incident further took place. The police officers from Gujarat started preparing the evacuation plan behind the stage for the leaders. In order to avoid the generation of any panic, a responsible BJP state leader appealed to the crowd not to blast any cracker in order to give confidence level to the crowd. Just as we climbed down the dais, some of those who had left the rally venue re-filled the ground again and we were back to addressing a jam-packed Maidan. The rest we had left to our luck and good fortune that no further blasts took place. Indeed some blast explosives have been left behind which did not explode. I was informed by the Gujarat police officers that the arrest of one of the accused could have scared the others to run away which prevented any further damage.
I have highlighted my experience yesterday in detail in order to emphasize the point that India cannot afford to be either soft on terror or soft on security. A policy against terror and the need for the security cannot be relatable to the policy of the vote bank politics of a given Government. There have been reports in the media that when the Central Intelligence and security agencies intercepted and arrested Yasin Bhatkal, the Bihar police for obvious political reasons or reluctance to receive his custody. The NIA had to be flown to Raksol in order to take his custody. An indiscreet media brief by an official in Delhi had led to some targets of investigation disappearing from the net of the investigators. Has this blast was planned by some of those who had disappeared? At several rallies addresses by Shri Narender Modi, frisking of crowd and regulation of entry points was necessary. The very fact that explosives, detonators and timers had entered the venue of the rally establishes that these mandatory checks were not done. Was the entire ground sanitized for anti-sabotage check? When the Gujarat police offices were advising us to abandon the rally rather than go to the dais, their concern primarily was that these had not been done. Have the state police organization in Bihar and else where made themselves technically compliant to deal with the kind of tactics and machinery employed by terrorist organizations ? This issue is one of national concern. Govt. of Bihar cannot draw satisfaction from the fact that it had undertaken all the measures required to provide security. Facts speak themselves. The very fact that such large-scale infiltration of terrorists and explosives have taken place is an evidence of the fact that the required preparations were not done. This attack coming in this backdrop clearly establishes the extent of radicalization which took place in the state.
I compliment the state leaders of the BJP and the lacks of people who have come to attend the rally for displaying exemplary bravery in averting a major accident. The consequences of panic would have been very frightened.
This is an attack on Shri Narender Modi and other senior BJP leaders. It was intended to intimidate our party which has vowed with greater determination to fight these tendencies. The ministry of home affairs and the govt. of India should seriously review the security of Shri Narender Modi who has been travelling to various parts of the country and ensure that no such incident is repeated in future. The party demands that there should be a high-level inquiry which should dispassionately look into the lapses which took place which have resulted in this monumental failure.
sumitjattan
New member
Rightly said and few politicians are crying in public after getting an SPG cover ..that their life is in danger and one person is boldly facing it .... atleast he has some guts 
atamjeet78
New member
Honestly I find it more stupid than brave to risk lives of people and continue the rally.
Everyone has right to have their opinions but I felt peoples live were at risk already....instead he saved lives of thousands by continuing with rally.
Everyone has right to have their opinions but I felt peoples live were at risk already....instead he saved lives of thousands by continuing with rally.
With a dedicated NSG team and Z+ security cover, I can also call anyone names
Rightly said and few politicians are crying in public after getting an SPG cover ..that their life is in danger and one person is boldly facing it .... atleast he has some guts
With a dedicated NSG team and Z+ security cover, I can also call anyone names
Like Pappu with SPG cover call names like mera baap, meri maa, meri dadi , mera dada .................... Sardar Patel kaun ?
Now a days MODI sets the agenda and all party follow it , I am very surprised to see that after 63 years of Sardar death Congress is talking about him all day & night & even conferred him secular certificate posthumously like Bharat Ratna after Nehru & Indira .
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Bhai suppose modi rally cancel kar deta, what would have been your stand? Be honest !!!! (Darr ke bhaag gya modi) Ye thread start karta tu.With a dedicated NSG team and Z+ security cover, I can also call anyone names
BJP leadears showed a brave heart, I appreciate.
No, I am not the one who would rant because I dislike someone, bad people make good decisions too. Honestly him continuing the rally makes me doubt his intentions, did he already know nothing more will happen?
Let me ask you, if you were Modi would have risked lives of many more and continued the rally?
Let me ask you, if you were Modi would have risked lives of many more and continued the rally?
What will you say of those 3-4 lac people who stayed there even after blasts and waited for Modi to arrive ? What are your doubts on their intentions to stay there ? Mind you, Modi was still half an hour away.. Do you think these 2-3 lac people came to commit "Hara-kiri" for Modi ?
RK^2
From what I know, majority were not told the catastrophe of what had happened
On news of a second low intensity blast in Patna a few minutes ago, organisers at the rally venue are repeatedly reminding the crowds not to set of ffirecrackers — these are causing confusion and nervousness. One firecracker went off at one corner and the smoke caused several people to rush around in a frenzy.
Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/b...o-muslims-1196781.html?utm_source=ref_article
No mention of bombs, but Modi calls for peace Just before a show of unity on stage, Modi makes a plea for peace. Notably, he hasn’t spoken about the explosions that occurred before his arrival. At the end, however, he asks the crowds to leave peacefully and without any accidents. “Let there be peace in the country,” he declares
This to me is utter selfishness, not only you hide information endangering people's security but also use it for your own benefit. Is not that shallow, sir?
Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/b...o-muslims-1196781.html?utm_source=ref_article
On news of a second low intensity blast in Patna a few minutes ago, organisers at the rally venue are repeatedly reminding the crowds not to set of ffirecrackers — these are causing confusion and nervousness. One firecracker went off at one corner and the smoke caused several people to rush around in a frenzy.
Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/b...o-muslims-1196781.html?utm_source=ref_article
No mention of bombs, but Modi calls for peace Just before a show of unity on stage, Modi makes a plea for peace. Notably, he hasn’t spoken about the explosions that occurred before his arrival. At the end, however, he asks the crowds to leave peacefully and without any accidents. “Let there be peace in the country,” he declares
This to me is utter selfishness, not only you hide information endangering people's security but also use it for your own benefit. Is not that shallow, sir?
Read more at: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/b...o-muslims-1196781.html?utm_source=ref_article
Your explanation is tailored around your conspiracy theory. To your firecracker theory, let me ask you few simple questions;
1. Many of these bombs exploded among public and were witnessed by 100s of people around. Dead bodies being taken away were seen by 100s of people. Even after seeing all that, people waited for Modi. People had cellphones and therefore connected with real world. Do you still think entire public was fool and did not know what all was going on? Do you expect that Modi should not have addressed a gathering of such brave people who waited for him even at the cost of their lives? If you still stick to your conspiracy theories, then I have nothing else to add. I simply don't buy your logic and conspiracy theory.
RK^2
All am saying is, if I were Modi I would not have conducted the rally and asked people to go home for safety purposes. But for Modi and BJP it would mean a loss of 10 crore Rs. so they chose to carry on.
And also if it were Rahul instead of Modi you would have agreed with me too calling him insensitive and not caring for people's lives, right?