Challenges and Chances before AAP

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spdeshwal said:
Rohit Bhai

I live in a developed country that has minimum of corruption. The reason for less corruption is not the discipline or a distinct working culture but the fear of law! Law does not spare any one! Any one found guilty of corruption gets punished without any fear or favor! Also your example of less corruption in Army/ military is based on hear say! We can find lots of corrupt personnel in the defense forces too ! It may be not to the level of any civil department and the reason for less corruption again is fear of punishment and less chance to make money ! There are only a couple of department like supply and canteen etc. where corruption is rampant!

You have given the example of Modi and Gujrat! Modi is a big dramebaaz! His economic model and development is all hyped! He is liar! He keep repeating a lie to make it sound true! " He used to make fun of planning commission and congress govt. on minimum income criterion for Aadhar Card! " uski khud ki sarkar ne he pole khole di! I lived in Gujrat in Late seventies and early eighties. It was way ahead in infrastructure than rest of the India! More over he is a criminal who did not spare the people of his own assembly constituency in 2002 when he let his Bjp supporters loot and burn the property of his Muslim constituents! I am saying this on the first information from a person involved in that kind of activities!
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deshwal ji...I have seen unbiased and rational posts from you all the times. But your recent love for AAP has killed your unbiasedness completely..Welcome to group!!

I think you wanted to convey your support for AAP and you forgot to complete few statement in your posts.

Modi is a dramebaaz and Kejriwal is not!!
Modi is a liar and Kejriwal is not!!


anyway, what does your first hand informant says about the train burning?.modi also did not stop thata nd he also allowed muslim in his state to burn hindus in train...

By the way, any of your near or dear one is getting ticket from AAP in next assembly election?
 
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[h=2]Why are we entering Politics?[/h]For the past two years millions of common Indians came out on streets to fight against the biggest evil in our country today - corruption. This people's anti-corruption movement has exposed the ugly and greedy face of our politicians. No political party in India today works for the common man's needs. The Janlokpal Movement was a call to all the politicians of India to listen to the common man's plea. For almost 2 years we tried every single way available to plead our cause to the government - peaceful protesting, courting arrest, indefinite fasting several rounds of negotiations with the ruling government - we tried everything possible to convince the government to form a strong anti- corruption law. But despite the huge wave of public support in favour of a strong anti-corruption law, all political parties cheated the people of India and deliberately sabotaged the Janlokpal Bill. The time for peaceful fasts and protests is gone. This is the time for action. Since most political parties are corrupt, greedy and thick skinned, it's time to bring political power back into the people's hands. We are not saying that every single politician is corrupt and greedy. There are many good intentioned people in politics today who want to work honestly for the people of India. But the current system of polity does not allow honest politicians to function. We are also not claiming that every single person who joins our party will be hundred percent honest. We are saying that it is the system that has become very corrupt and needs to be changed immediately. Our aim in entering politics is not to come to power; we have entered politics to change the current corrupt and self-serving system of politics forever. So that no matter who comes to power in the future, the system is strong enough to withstand corruption at any level of governance.
 
Jab tak article 311 nahi hatega, tak tak gormant ko aise hi choona lagta rahega. Article 311 in Indian constitution protect and shield public servants from sacking. On non performance usually a public servant get transferred at worse. But the public servant still gets the pay check for doing nothing. And Corruption is a bonus!

Baaki yo padh lo:

Central Government Act
Article 311 in The Constitution Of India 1949
311. Dismissal, removal or reduction in rank of persons employed in civil capacities under the Union or a State(1) No person who is a member of a civil service of the Union or an all India service or a civil service of a State or holds a civil post under the Union or a State shall be dismissed or removed by a authority subordinate to that by which he was appointed
(2) No such person as aforesaid shall be dismissed or removed or reduced in rank except after an inquiry in which he has been informed of the charges against him and given a reasonable opportunity of being heard in respect of those charges Provided that where it is proposed after such inquiry, to impose upon him any such penalty, such penalty may be imposed on the basis of the evidence adduced during such inquiry and it shall not be necessary to give such person any opportunity of making representation on the penalty proposed: Provided further that this clause shall not apply(a) where a person is dismissed or removed or reduced in rank on the ground of conduct which has led to his conviction on a criminal charge; or
(b) where the authority empowered to dismiss or remove a person or to reduce him in rank ins satisfied that for some reason, to be recorded by that authority in writing, it is not reasonably practicable to hold such inquiry; or
(c) where the President or the Governor, as the case may be, is satisfied that in the interest of the security of the State, it is not expedient to hold such inquiry

(3) If, in respect of any such person as aforesaid, a question arises whether it is reasonably practicable to hold such inquiry as is referred to in clause ( 2 ), the decision thereon of the authority empowered to dismiss or remove such person or to reduce him in rank shall be final
 
spdeshwal said:
Master stroke by the master!
Rohit bhai, a honest politician/ cm can behave like this!
Mr. Kejriwals annoncement that his govt. would resign if the Lokplal is not passed in the assembly!
This has brought both Congress and BJP on the Back foot!
Neiher the BJP nor the BJP would like to happen that Kejriwal and AAP get loose!


Cheers!
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Deswal ji, minor inadvertent perhaps, you missed some political parties name in neither nor and gave twice BJP name : "Neiher the BJP nor the BJP would like to happen that Kejriwal and AAP get loose!

Also not clear who would not like to happen that Kejariwal and AAP get loose ! Kindly share why both parties do you think want him and his party not to loose his government.
 


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This just depiction everyone is entitled to this freedom of speech as long as it's giving a some message.

But the real action by lawmakers of the country is something we need to relook and introspect ourselves if we did the right thing electing them. Please relook the Congress MP...now saving face from shame but I am pretty sure resignation for the behavior is out of scope even after this.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/m...ver-telangana-483003?pfrom=home-lateststories
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Deswal ji, minor inadvertent perhaps, you missed some political parties name in neither nor and gave twice BJP name : "Neiher the BJP nor the BJP would like to happen that Kejriwal and AAP get loose!

Also not clear who would not like to happen that Kejariwal and AAP get loose ! Kindly share why both parties do you think want him and his party not to loose his government.
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Dr. Saheb, I intended to write BJP and Congress! Also, I meant both congress and BJP wouldn't like AAP Government resigning! That would give AAP leadership and workers more time, concentrating on coming polls and spoiling the game of BJP By checking its present speed and pushing Congress to its lowest level at national level as well! That what both these parties couldn't like to happen at this stage!
By the way, today Arvind Kejriwal may resign!

Cheers!
 
desijat said:
What a distasteful way to depict elected leaders
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If one looks at the behavior of these Elected Leaders, the above image is a Complement. Some of them casually looking at Porn while sitting in Vidhan Sabha & even showing to others, Some using Pepper Spray in the Lok Sabha, Some are caught sleeping as is they have done tons of work n spend sleepless nights serving the People of India. Maybe Power itself intoxicates! Look at the way so called Aam Adami Representatives started behaving when they got the power "The Delhi government has issued official vehicles — SUVs — to all the newly-elected ministers." And the highlighting fact is all of them got VIP Numbers :).
 
Deshwal Sir, I partially agree with you regarding AAP by believing that they want to do good. However, What is the condition of AAP now? They are not Stable, not holding consistency, keeps changing colours like the routine politicians, No Credibility so far. Who would dare to handover the Whole Country to these people? State is alltogether a different thing. I am sure 95% of the ones who are against Kejariwal would support him if he sticks to Delhi for the moment & delivers instead of Running after Lok Sabha!
 
prashantacmet said:
deshwal ji...I have seen unbiased and rational posts from you all the times. But your recent love for AAP has killed your unbiasedness completely..Welcome to group!!

I think you wanted to convey your support for AAP and you forgot to complete few statement in your posts.

Modi is a dramebaaz and Kejriwal is not!!
Modi is a liar and Kejriwal is not!!


anyway, what does your first hand informant says about the train burning?.modi also did not stop thata nd he also allowed muslim in his state to burn hindus in train...

By the way, any of your near or dear one is getting ticket from AAP in next assembly election?
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आपको मेरे उपरोक्त विचार तार्किक नहीं लगे या मेरा आम आदमी पार्टी के प्रति झुकाव ?

खैर आपका सोचना जो भी था , में समझता हूँ कि हम सब के विचार , किसी वयक्ति , संगठन के प्रति सोच और नजरिया अलग अलग होता , अलग अलग मानको पर आधारित होता है, अलग २ हालातो से प्रेरित होता है! उधाहरण के तोर पर आप का बीजेपी प्रेम भी शायद मुज्जफरनगर कि घटनाओं से प्रभावित है ! यानिकि , आपका झुकाव, वहाँ के तात्कालिक हालत से प्रेरित था ! या यूँ कहिये तार्किक कम भावनात्मक ज्यादा! यह मेरा मानना है, आपके विचार अलग हो सकते हैं कारण अलग हो सकते हैं !

एक समय था, में राष्ट्रीय सवयं सेवक संघ का घोर समर्थक था ! शायद आपको याद हो मैंने ६-७ पहले , इसी फोरम पर आरएसएस के सार्थक योगदान पर एक थ्रेड भी शुर किया था और अपने कुछ अनुभव भी शेयर किये थे ! लेकिन गुजरात जैसी कुछ अन्य घटनाओं के इलावा , आरएसएस के सहयोगी संघठन, बजरंग दल -हनुमान सेना आदि के लोगों के निजी अधिकारों के खिलाफ काम करने आदि से निराशा हुई थी! आज भी वाही कुछ देख सकते हैं इन संघठनो कि ड्रामेबाजी , भरतिया सभ्यता के नाम पर लोगों को प्रेशन करते हुए ! बीजेपी के लोग भी भ्रष्टाचार में आकंठ दुब्बे हुए हैं , इस बात से शायद आप भी इंकार नहीं कर सकते! लेकिन कोई विक्लप ही कहाँ था! संयोग से अब हमारे सामने एक शशक्त विकल्प आम आदमी पार्टी के रूप में आया है ! बस अरविन्द और उनके सहयोगियों की कर्मठता और लगन देख झुकाव हो ही गया! अब ये आपको पसंद आये ये जरुरी तो नहीं !

मोदी अपने कामकाज और उपलभ्धियों को बढ़ा चढ़ा कर प्रस्तुत करता है ! इसमें उसका साथ बीजेपी का प्रचार तंत्र भी कर रहा है !आप कल कि चाय चर्चा में हिस्सा लेने वालों कि शंख्या को लेकर ही सोचिये ! मोदी समर्थकों, बीजेपी के अनुसार १.५ से २ करोड़ लोगों ने हिस्सा लिया ! मेरे विचार से २-३ लाख से ज्यादा नहीं! मोदी के विचारों में कोई गेहराई नहीं केवल लुभाने जैसे उत्तर!

क्रमश---


खुश रहो!
 
Every election promises are made and they are hardly kept after gaining power. People were hopeful this as well, but it didn't take much time for them to feel on same lines as with happening with previous govts.
AAP is no different, rather acting worse than the Congress and the BJP
 
(1) मनमोहन सिंह

(2) अरविंद केजरीवाल




------दोनों लोकप्रिय न होते हुए भी सत्ता की कुर्सी पर ' फेविक्विक " की तरह चिपक गए हैं.


एक तो लगभग १ मास से चिपका है दूसरा सोनिया को प्रतिदिन दंडवत प्रणाम करते करते ९ वर्ष से अधिक चिपका है.


कोई ऐसा रसायन तो बताईये मित्रों जिससे इनको उखाड़ा जाये ?
 
दिल्ली के cm बनने के पहले और बाद में भी केजरीवाल ने सार्वजनिक मंच से कई बार कहा कि भारत मेँ जितने निष्ठावान नौकरीपेशा लोग हैं, वे अपनी नौकरी छोड़कर aap ज्वाइन कर लें. बहुत लोगों ने उसकी बात मानी किन्तु आश्चर्य की बात है कि केजरीवाल की पत्नी ने अभी तक ना तो अपनी नौकरी छोड़ी और ना ही aap को ज्वाइन किया।


अब इसका क्या अर्थ हुआ, क्या केजरीवाल की पत्नी को अपने पति पर भरोसा नहीं अथवा वे निष्ठावान नहीं।
 
rohittewatia said:
Deshwal Sir, I partially agree with you regarding AAP by believing that they want to do good. However, What is the condition of AAP now? They are not Stable, not holding consistency, keeps changing colours like the routine politicians, No Credibility so far. Who would dare to handover the Whole Country to these people? State is alltogether a different thing. I am sure 95% of the ones who are against Kejariwal would support him if he sticks to Delhi for the moment & delivers instead of Running after Lok Sabha!
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रोहित भाई , लंगड़ी कांग्रेस कि लंगड़ी बैसाखी पर टिकी आप कि अल्पमत सरकार और कर भी क्या सकती है! पिछले डेढ़ दो महीने में जितना कुछ भी किया है उसके कितने दूरगामी परिाम होंगे आप अंदाजा भी नहीं लगा सकते! क्या आप नहीं जानते कि जिस दिन कांग्रेस को लगा कि आप के बढ़ते कदम रूक गए हैं, लंगड़ी बैसाखी को खींचने में भी तनिक भी नहीं झिझकेंगे !
कल ही उन्होंने दोनों धूर्तों के झुंडों को एक कर नंगा कर दिया !
क्या आप नहीं सोचते कि, पूर्व और आज के पेट्रोलियम मंत्रियों व् मुकेश अम्बानी सहित अफ आई आर, कोई मामूली कदम नहीं है ! यह दर्शाता है कि आप कि सरकार भ्रष्ट तंत्र को समूल नष्ट करने के लिए कटिबद्ध है!यह भी आप देखेंगे कि बिजली कंपनियों के आडिट आदि के भी दूरगामी परिणाम होंगे !
थोडा धीरज और थोडा भरोसा रखिये अच्छे परिणाम भी निकलेंगे ! इन दुष्टों को ६० साल दे दिए कुछ साल इन्हे भी दे दो !

खुश रहो!
 
spdeshwal said:
रोहित भाई , लंगड़ी कांग्रेस कि लंगड़ी बैसाखी पर टिकी आप कि अल्पमत सरकार और कर भी क्या सकती है! पिछले डेढ़ दो महीने में जितना कुछ भी किया है उसके कितने दूरगामी परिाम होंगे आप अंदाजा भी नहीं लगा सकते! क्या आप नहीं जानते कि जिस दिन कांग्रेस को लगा कि आप के बढ़ते कदम रूक गए हैं, लंगड़ी बैसाखी को खींचने में भी तनिक भी नहीं झिझकेंगे !
कल ही उन्होंने दोनों धूर्तों के झुंडों को एक कर नंगा कर दिया !
क्या आप नहीं सोचते कि, पूर्व और आज के पेट्रोलियम मंत्रियों व् मुकेश अम्बानी सहित अफ आई आर, कोई मामूली कदम नहीं है ! यह दर्शाता है कि आप कि सरकार भ्रष्ट तंत्र को समूल नष्ट करने के लिए कटिबद्ध है!यह भी आप देखेंगे कि बिजली कंपनियों के आडिट आदि के भी दूरगामी परिणाम होंगे !
थोडा धीरज और थोडा भरोसा रखिये अच्छे परिणाम भी निकलेंगे ! इन दुष्टों को ६० साल दे दिए कुछ साल इन्हे भी दे दो !

खुश रहो!
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Good. Let us watch and wait for the good to come out through this 'alternative' known as AAP !!
 
And finally AAP CM decides to step down at about 8.07 p.m. today after his Government could not table Lokpal Bill.
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LIVE! Kejriwal writes resignation letter to Lt Gov Najeeb Jung[/h]
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
And finally AAP CM decides to step down at about 8.07 p.m. today after his Government could not table Lokpal Bill.
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LIVE! Kejriwal writes resignation letter to Lt Gov Najeeb Jung[/h]
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Dr. saheb, I am listening him live too! Hope you would agree with me that he is not only a honest politician but master strategist as well! It was evident that Janlokpal wouldn't be passed but he created the situation when BJP and Congress came together against presentation of Janlokpal Bill, and voted together in doing so!

Also I am quoting Prasoon Bajpeyee, the main anchor of Aaj tak, he said that Kejriwal and his government were able to implement 11 points of their agreement of 18 points on which congress had extended out side support! They were able to get passed the Finance bill that would pay the way for fulling their assurance on electricity!

Long Live Arvind Kejriwal!
 
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