पी एम हो तो मोदी जैसा...........

[spdeshwal]

That is why someone outside the mainstream political process can make a difference. Clue in Medha Patkar's FB status below.

Jaspreet Bhai

Haalat bhi ayese hi ban rahe hein ya yun kahiye bana diye hein!
Bodi aur Arvind mein Aamne saamne ki takkar!
Mukhtar Ansaari not contesting!
Congress Codidate Ajay rai , ayesa hogaya, " khoda pahad Nikli Chuhiya"

Cheers!

 

[singhvp]

Not just Owaisi, there are many like him who question Rama and his birth. Pseudo-seculars have no problem with Hussain painting Sita nude. Pseudo seculars think that only Muslims have emotions and Hindus should be devoid of all type of feelings. No person has been bashed in media so much as Modi. Media forgets that man in street is smarter than these Karan Thapars, Sagrika Ghoses and Arnav Goswamis.

RK^2

The myth about the birth, death, crucificaton or Nirvana of any diety of Hindus/Muslims/Christians or any other religious group is nothing but an intoxication which leads to loss of logical thinking and analytical ability. Also the theory of birth place of any deity/mythological character is nothing but another myth. The myth that all the followers of Hinduism are descentants of Lord Rama, gets negated by the fact that there have been countless instances where the so-called Hindus were killed by their Hindu fellows, (Wars between Hindu Kingdoms are the most glaring examples apart from stray incidents of murders for woman and property etc.) and the Muslim by their Muslim fellows. Not to speak of religion, intra-caste murders (especially among Jats) are reported very often. Why religion doen't help in warding off such kind of lethal enmity. Politicicians of all hues have been exploiting people's ignorance by whipping up their religious sentiments. If religion is something divine, why it does not stop a Hindu raping a Hindu girl? Why Islam doesn't stop a Muslim killing a Muslim? Why Christianity didn't stop Nazi Germany from bombarding the innocent Britts during the secnond World War? Using religion as a tool by the crook polliticians to thwart any danger to their political existence is common place and frequently using the word "pseudo seculars" by our pseudo "politico-religious intellectuals" has become a fashion. The word pseudo has been so repeatedly used by these pious intellectuals on JL that it has lost its charm and has started giving a sense of nauseating stink.

 

[deshi-jat]

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?34471-%26%232346%3B%26%232368%3B-%26%232

Visa is too petty little thing to sacrifice (Kurban) for such a leader.

As per today's NY times “Narendra’s whole life is a life of sacrifice, and we have to accept it; the whole country knows his sacrifice, and the people of the nation know it”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/11/world/asia/top-indian-candidate-believed-a-bachelor-admits-to-being-married.html?_r=0

Thanks for cracking me up with this ideology.

Itne bekoof ek-adhe hi ho jo apni zindagi neta ki lia kurban kar de

 

[rohittewatia]

VK Sir...I wud agree partially. All humans are different, Chor, Daku pehle bhi hote thay Aaj bhi hen. Most of us are resilient by force, bounded by law. Had there been no law, i wonder if someone gives an abuse to anyone, how they would not break his head. When Anger takes over, no wisdom, no religion, no humanity works, that is again human, since it happens to most of the people. Few months back, i visited some Rath Temple in Mahabalipuram, there were temples which were built in 7th Century depiciting images from Pandavas Time where they were offering NarBali to please the gods.

Back to the Topic...Most of us are looking forward that MODI becomes PM & gives direction to the country, but there is one more thing.......to prevent him from becoming arrogant and hot headed a Strong Opposition with a Decisive Leader is equally required. Moreover, it will also force him to believe in collective leadership which will eventually help in the grooming of second layer of leadership.

 

[deshi-jat]

वी पी,
धर्म और भगवान के मखौल उडाण कि आज़ादी म्हारे हिंदू धर्म मै ऐ देखलो बस..सलमान रुश्दी, तस्लिमा नसरीन नै भूल- भळूमे मै इस्लाम के बारे मै भी कुछ लिख दिया..इब बिचारे जी ल्ह्को ते हांडे सै दुनियभर मै..

The myth about the birth, death, crucificaton or Nirvana of any diety of Hindus/Muslims/Christians or any other religious group is nothing but an intoxication which leads to loss of logical thinking and analytical ability. Also the theory of birth place of any deity/mythological character is nothing but another myth. The myth that all the followers of Hinduism are descentants of Lord Rama, gets negated by the fact that there have been countless instances where the so-called Hindus were killed by their Hindu fellows, (Wars between Hindu Kingdoms are the most glaring examples apart from stray incidents of murders for woman and property etc.) and the Muslim by their Muslim fellows. Not to speak of religion, intra-caste murders (especially among Jats) are reported very often. Why religion doen't help in warding off such kind of lethal enmity. Politicicians of all hues have been exploiting people's ignorance by whipping up their religious sentiments. If religion is something divine, why it does not stop a Hindu raping a Hindu girl? Why Islam doesn't stop a Muslim killing a Muslim? Why Christianity didn't stop Nazi Germany from bombarding the innocent Britts during the secnond World War? Using religion as a tool by the crook polliticians to thwart any danger to their political existence is common place and frequently using the word "pseudo seculars" by our pseudo "politico-religious intellectuals" has become a fashion. The word pseudo has been so repeatedly used by these pious intellectuals on JL that it has lost its charm and has started giving a sense of nauseating stink.

 

[prikshit]

For every Owaisi, there's a Advani taking out Rath Yatra causing riots along the way. The odds are even here.

What a comparision :victorious:. Kudos!!

 

[sunnytewatia]

jaspreet swaich bro, i hope desijat (vikas c) and yorself wil continue with same enthusiazm even after 16th may 2014. ...

You surveyed them? Don't talk about exceptions as norms. Religious nuts flare feelings in every Hindu and Muslim for political purposes.

 

[swaich]

What a comparision :victorious:. Kudos!!

Perhaps you were too young in the 90s to understand the hatred spread by the Rath Yatras. watch videos and read accounts to understand the comparison. Advani, who plays the senior sensible patriarch role to perfection now was the original Hindutva hate monger then.

 

[sunnytewatia]

Advani is punished by his destiny bro. he cud never get what he wanted (pm post). what more needed. he will die wid his desire to become pm in his heart.
hope same thing happens wid others who divide people for their benefit espcilly congres leaders who killed sikhs in 1984.

Perhaps you were too young in the 90s to understand the hatred spread by the Rath Yatras. watch videos and read accounts to understand the comparison. Advani, who plays the senior sensible patriarch role to perfection now was the original Hindutva hate monger then.

 

[prikshit]

Perhaps you were too young in the 90s to understand the hatred spread by the Rath Yatras. watch videos and read accounts to understand the comparison. Advani, who plays the senior sensible patriarch role to perfection now was the original Hindutva hate monger then.

Yeah I was too young that time. See if you comapre him with rajeev gandhi/ mullayam etc etc that makes some sense to me. But when you talk about persons like owaisi/Azam khan, they are a different breeed of anti-national people. Nothing happens without a cause, it was out of muslim appeasement this path of hatred was taken by them.

 

[swaich]

Advani is punished by his destiny bro. he cud never get what he wanted (pm post). what more needed. he will die wid his desire to become pm in his heart.
hope same thing happens wid others who divide people for their benefit esp congres leaders who killed sikhs in 1984.

While the thought of destiny or God punishing people who do wrong is comforting, especially when we feel these people didn't get what they deserved, I honestly don't think destiny is a good judge. Since you mentioned 1984, the perpetrators like Sajjan, Tytler, Bhagat etc would have ideally been fired in hot oven by destiny considering what they did to others. But they are all dying comfortable deaths old age if not dead peacefully.

 

[swaich]

Yeah I was too young that time. See if you comapre him with rajeev gandhi/ mullayam etc etc that makes some sense to me. But when you talk about persons like owaisi/Azam khan, they are a different breeed of anti-national people. Nothing happens without a cause, it was out of muslim appeasement this path of hatred was taken by them.

If you look for justifications, you can always find it. But are you willing to rise above justifications and condemn all? I am.

Owaisi and Azam Khan will say it was because of 2002 they said those things. Amit Shah will say 2002 happened because of Godhra train burning. Another Muslim will say, Godhra train burning happened due to angry kar sevaks quarreling with Muslim men and women on the station. Then others will deny it.

 

[sunnytewatia]

dont u think they r not getting punished? Also, not all of them dead dont worry only HKL bhagat has gone. tytler has not been able to get ticket last time despite his best efforts n same wid sajjan kumar. he lost his ticket after securing it. this is a punishment in my opinion( less harsh may be) but they r still alive my brother swaich and yet to see the worst. ask them to visit punjab once without security - they will not go because they afraid their assassination.

also, rajiv gandhi (who made that tree falling and earth shaking remark justifying killing of sikhs) also got a very horrible ending as he supported killing of innocent sikhs. Same way indira had forcibly got people operated in emergency n put many in jail to save her post - u know her fate and how she died. You know sanjay's fate as he also butchered his opponents wherever possible.. Same way if u remember bansilal had a major role in emergency n forcibly operating people for nasbandhi in haryana, also he got farmer people killed in 1996 in bhiwani area - he had to see his young son surender dying before him. that day onwards bansilal never recovred. Surender himself had a bad past of forcibly taking punjabi girls to his bed in bhiwani city. I read somewhere that Bansi and surender had made a brother n sister to get naked and sleep with each other. I need not repeat about their fate. Bhajanlal was most corrupt n he had to see his son converting to islam before he died. Also throughout his life he had to stay under security because of militant's threat to kill him. So many examples. You keep counting.

on the contrary, Bajpayee is still alive as he doesnt have any blot on his history. same way devilal died a natural death seeing his son a CM.

OP Chotala n his one got his dues in Jail as both were behind meham kand in 1991 n got people killed. they did other scams too.

so if modi has done something wrong he will also get it in his lifetime. why worry mate. More or less, people get their dues here itself.

While the thought of destiny or God punishing people who do wrong is comforting, especially when we feel these people didn't get what they deserved, I honestly don't think destiny is a good judge. Since you mentioned 1984, the perpetrators like Sajjan, Tytler, Bhagat etc would have ideally been fired in hot oven by destiny considering what they did to others. But they are all dying comfortable deaths old age if not dead peacefully.

 

[swaich]

dont u think they r not getting punished? Also, not all of them dead dont worry only HKL bhagat has gone. tytler has not been able to get ticket last time despite his best efforts n same wid sajjan kumar. he lost his ticket after securing it. this is a punishment in my opinion( less harsh may be) but they r still alive my brother swaich and yet to see the worst. ask them to visit punjab once without security - they will not go because they afraid their assassination.

also, rajiv gandhi (who made that tree falling and earth shaking remark justifying killing of sikhs) also got a very horrible ending as he supported killing of innocent sikhs. Same way indira had forcibly got people operated in emergency n put many in jail to save her post - u know her fate and how she died. You know sanjay's fate as he also butchered his opponents wherever possible.. Same way if u remember bansilal had a major role in emergency n forcibly operating people for nasbandhi in haryana, also he got farmer people killed in 1996 in bhiwani area - he had to see his young son surender dying before him. that day onwards bansilal never recovred. Surender himself had a bad past of forcibly taking punjabi girls to his bed in bhiwani city. I read somewhere that Bansi and surender had made a brother n sister to get naked and sleep with each other. I need not repeat about their fate. Bhajanlal was most corrupt n he had to see his son converting to islam before he died. Also throughout his life he had to stay under security because of militant's threat to kill him. So many examples. You keep counting.

on the contrary, Bajpayee is still alive as he doesnt have any blot on his history. same way devilal died a natural death seeing his son a CM.

OP Chotala n his one got his dues in Jail as both were behind meham kand in 1991 n got people killed. they did other scams too.

so if modi has done something wrong he will also get it in his lifetime. why worry mate. More or less, people get their dues here itself.

Sunny bhai, while I agree with many of those examples, for certain others I dont think not getting a ticket is punishment enough in case of 1984 riot perpetrators.

Honestly, neither I am a believer in destiny nor in afterlife. So I can't just say let it be, everyone will get punished if they deserve it. Let people carry on. I believing in voicing my opinion and opposition irrespective of destiny's help.

 

[cutejaatsandeep]

Sab bhahiyo ko ram ram....bhai up ki jin 10seats pe election hua unmai se 8 seats bjp jeet gaye hai..aur sabse khushi ki baat ye ki ajittudin haar gaya hai..up mai congress ki aise haalat thi ke 2pm ke baad unke polling booth agent bhi ghar jaa ke soo gee the...delhi mai bjp worst case mai 5seats jeet rahi hai..haryana mai bjp n inld mil ke kam se kam 6 seat..bisnhoi haar jayega hisar seat....muzaffarnagar mai sanjeev balyan ko 5lac+ votes mile....baaki report deta rahoonga....desi jaat tere se 16 ko baat karoonga apna number share jaroor kiyoo...agar india mai ho to mujhse jaroor milke jaiyoo..

 

[sunnytewatia]

I believe you spoke too early and proved wrong- 172K applications vs 124K last year. Clearly people dont care about Modi

Brought modi here in thid thred too? Do u really get sound sleep bro desijat or Modi haunts u? Bhootnath returns every night?

 

[mann123]

Historically, it's the other way round. You can say anything about Ram, Sita and even books like Veda (let me know if you need videos) however if you say something about Allah or Muhhamed you can get killed for that.

If you don't believe you can try...just start with making a good nice picture of Allah or Mohammed.

If a similar statement would have been by a Muslim radical about a temple, one can imagine the brouhaha about it. The statement was in bad taste and inflammatory nature. But then one can expect that from Swamy.

 

[singhvp]

Visa is too petty little thing to sacrifice (Kurban) for such a leader.

As per today's NY times “Narendra’s whole life is a life of sacrifice, and we have to accept it; the whole country knows his sacrifice, and the people of the nation know it”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/11/world/asia/top-indian-candidate-believed-a-bachelor-admits-to-being-married.html?_r=0

No doubt, he sacrified his whole life for the nation including his 'happily married life'. What else you people can expect from him. He went to the extent of deserting even his only wife in the broader national interest.

 

[deshi-jat]

वी पी, आप हांडी का छो बरौली पै तारों सो. वा "पी एम हो तो मोदी जैसा" थ्रैड छोड़ कै अडै आ गे. मै पह्लाम इतना आफं टॉपिक लिख चुका इस थ्रेड पै.


खैर, राष्ट्र हित में परिवार या पत्नी का त्याग कर देणा हमारी प्राचीन राजधर्म कि परंपरा है. पुरुषोत्तम श्रीराम को भी सीताजी का त्याग करना पडा था.


चलो आप ने इतना तो मान्या कि उसकी सिर्फ़ एक ही पत्नी है. चार-चार तो ना लिए बैठा और फेर जब जी मै आया तलाक-तलाक कह दिया. देश का क़ानून जाओ भाड मै.

No doubt, he sacrified his whole life for the nation including his 'happily married life'. What else you people can expect from him. He went to the extent of deserting even his only wife in the broader national interest.

 

[sunnytewatia]

No doubt, he sacrified his whole life for the nation including his 'happily married life'. What else you people can expect from him. He went to the extent of deserting even his only wife in the broader national interest.

If u r serious, v can assume u hv changed loyalty to NDA. �� which location?