I have mentioned it in my other posts as well. Modi's false promises are slowly getting exposed. He just talk on any random problem and does not provide any solution. It is reflected into his Independence speech as well. He did not mention about reducing corruption. He did not mention about how he is going to achieve "Made in India". Also these empty talks will do nothing except a damage to BJP and that is happening at the moment. BJP somehow managed to polarize votes in UP by making false promises. But things cannot be hidden. India is not like Gujarat. India as a country is very different from a already developed state like Gujarat. Modi delivered high promises during election campaign and it's the time of implementation. But we have already seen so far in the budget which was very disappointing.
Whom to Vote in Haryana Assembly Elections, 2014
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I have mentioned it in my other posts as well. Modi's false promises are slowly getting exposed. He just talk on any random problem and does not provide any solution. It is reflected into his Independence speech as well. He did not mention about reducing corruption. He did not mention about how he is going to achieve "Made in India". Also these empty talks will do nothing except a damage to BJP and that is happening at the moment. BJP somehow managed to polarize votes in UP by making false promises. But things cannot be hidden. India is not like Gujarat. India as a country is very different from a already developed state like Gujarat. Modi delivered high promises during election campaign and it's the time of implementation. But we have already seen so far in the budget which was very disappointing.
sanjeev1984
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:sleeping:We get to hear BJP is anti-jat, INLD is pro-jat, Congress is pro-jat. What best can be done at this stage is to wait for all the parties to declare their candidates/including the CM candidate. We can make a comparision on the basis number of tickets given to jat candidates by different parties.
I am not wrong when i say any party won't risk 35 biradari for jat biradari, lets be practical about it. In haryana all parties are either silent or throwing anti-jat slogans to garner votes of rest of the castes. Reservation which we got has further led people and parties to be after us.
We should come out of a perception whether x party is pro-jat and y party is not. On the basis of ticket distribution we can better analyse who we should go for. When we have sufficient participation is any party we can get our things done. Wait and wait in addition to making a smart choice is the need of the hour.
I am not wrong when i say any party won't risk 35 biradari for jat biradari, lets be practical about it. In haryana all parties are either silent or throwing anti-jat slogans to garner votes of rest of the castes. Reservation which we got has further led people and parties to be after us.
We should come out of a perception whether x party is pro-jat and y party is not. On the basis of ticket distribution we can better analyse who we should go for. When we have sufficient participation is any party we can get our things done. Wait and wait in addition to making a smart choice is the need of the hour.
mandeep333
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It is nation wide perception that there has been tremendous growth in Gujrat under Modi's regime. We may be better 'developed' and happier.(Haryanvis are by nature happy-whether they are prosperous or not- so this parameter is not valid)
We haven't succeeded in establishing the fact that growth of Haryana is exemplary. When my friend says "It was a revenge from Hooda." at least I fail to understand whom Hooda is inflicting revenge.
Now that BJP-Kuldeep Bishnoi alliance is coming into force again, we must think about the consolidation of our votes. Bishnoi has openly clamoured again and again against Jats. He wants to establish himself champion of non-Jats. I personally think BJP after this alliance has took anti-Jat and castiest stance indirectly. Extreme Castiest Parties like Kuldeep Bishnoi's and Mayawati's and Mulayam's ought to be ousted from the political arena of North India in the interest of the nation.
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drrajpalsingh
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Friend,
Could you kindly validate the perception by giving comparative statistics of development in regard to various parameters for Gujarat and Haryana during 2001-2014 so that the real picture emerges .
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drrajpalsingh
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Politics is a game of mind more than just numbers. How many Sindhis we have in India. However, LK Advani has remained relevant for so many decades. Modi is a Telli by case. How many Tellis we have in India ? Still Modi has made it to the top. In my view Jats need a smart leader who can have pan India appeal. Caste based strength is not going to take us anywhere. Muslims can neaver make it to the top (though they are almost 15% of Indian population) unless a Muslim leader talks of all Indians and not just Muslims. Same way a Jat leader can never make it to the top unless his appeal cuts across all sections of population. Hooda is a mild Jat and this is why he could reach this far in congress politics. Thakkad Jat will have to have his own party like Ch Charan Singh and Chautala.
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drrajpalsingh
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Are we not overlooking the fact that muslims have been sharing highest posts in the free India. This can be the case if we overlook the names of the like Zakir Hussain, Faqruddin Ahmad, Maulana Azad and so on who attained the highest seats of power.
What is 'Thakkad Jat ' I do not know, could you help !
drrajpalsingh
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Kuldeep Bishnoi today again declared that his party would not accept less than 45 Vidhan Sabha seat in alliance with BJP.
Anil Vij has announced that people must come forward to defeat Kuldeep Bishnoi and his HJC - BL.
What a good chemistry, contradiction and contrast between the two political allies !!!
Anil Vij has announced that people must come forward to defeat Kuldeep Bishnoi and his HJC - BL.
What a good chemistry, contradiction and contrast between the two political allies !!!
mandeep333
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Dr Sahib, may I clarify that I am not staunch supporter of any political party-be it BJP, Cong or any? If I had prerogative of deciding the winner in Haryana I would have named INLD. But that's not the case. I don't advocate favouring any, as I feel that we should have healthy discussion (I must reiterate the discussion need to be minus Cong.) to make up our mind for imminent elections.
inld orr congress kay cm declared h bjp apna layak jat cm declear kare too log soch sakte h ...........na too iss doogi choggi k khel m bera pat jyga bjp n apni aookat ka .
Whom to Vote In Haryana
I have gone through many quotes in this title. Dr Rajpal ji had to request participant to concentarte on the main issue as many participants mingled the topic and have taken the discussion to other direction.
R Kumar ji I am highly impressed with your views; you have rightfully tried to analyse one concept of the situation and we should keep in mind these views while deciding course of action.
Thanks for your views and Ram Ram to all
I have gone through many quotes in this title. Dr Rajpal ji had to request participant to concentarte on the main issue as many participants mingled the topic and have taken the discussion to other direction.
R Kumar ji I am highly impressed with your views; you have rightfully tried to analyse one concept of the situation and we should keep in mind these views while deciding course of action.
Thanks for your views and Ram Ram to all
Soory, I ment Dhakkad Jat. Hope I don't need to explain what a "Dhakkad Jat" is.
RK^2
As far as voting pattern of Jats in Haryana are concerned I remind my childhood memories, that, after the death of Deen Bandhu Chaudhary Chhotu Ram Ji till 70's when it was a common perception during elections that Jats' votes will scatter among almost all candidates on the basis of thier Gotra/Guhand (Neighbouring area) dialect etc, and candidated did not try to convass enmass jat voters for support but tried to stress more on SCs' BCs' votes. The rise of Chaudhary Bansi Lal Ji was sudden in Haryana, Jat votes tried to lobby behind him to some extent for a long time, rather taste of jat community remained non congress parties, the reason I don't know. But, after the rise of Chaudhary Charan Singh Ji in UP, jat votes in Haryana appricaited Chaudhary Sahib and started inviting him to Haryana for Rallies. With the introduction of Chaudhary Charan Singh Ji in Haryana, the other leadership emerged in the form of Jan Nayak Chaudhary Devi Lal Ji. The rise of Chaudhary Devi Lal and defection of Ch Bhajan lal led to the consolidation of Jat Votes, to some extend behind Chaudhary Devi Lal Ji.
I noticed a very surprising, interesting and complicated thoughts which emerged in minds of Jat masses in Haryana was that Jat's considered Jan Nayak Chaudhary Devi Lal as SOLID Jat, and comparatively considered Chaudhary Shamsher Singh Surjewala, Chaudhary Ranbir Singh Hooda, Chaudhary Maru Singh malik and many more Jat congress leaders as NO SOLID JAT. The same situation more or less continues with Chaudhary Bhupinder Singh Hooda Ji even after his best efforts to satisfy Jats.
My main objective is to stress that the time has come for Jats to think and develop/ Support A NEW leadership among Jats like the rise of Modi Ji, the new generation Leadership Team and Head should be Intellegent, laborious, Dedicated, Alert and and acceptable as SOLID Jat Leadership who also take care of ambitions of the community
Further, it is my personal view that Jats should have proper leadership share in almost all National Political Parties and all Major Regional Parties. Jats should not rally behind a few or a single political party.
Thanks to all
I noticed a very surprising, interesting and complicated thoughts which emerged in minds of Jat masses in Haryana was that Jat's considered Jan Nayak Chaudhary Devi Lal as SOLID Jat, and comparatively considered Chaudhary Shamsher Singh Surjewala, Chaudhary Ranbir Singh Hooda, Chaudhary Maru Singh malik and many more Jat congress leaders as NO SOLID JAT. The same situation more or less continues with Chaudhary Bhupinder Singh Hooda Ji even after his best efforts to satisfy Jats.
My main objective is to stress that the time has come for Jats to think and develop/ Support A NEW leadership among Jats like the rise of Modi Ji, the new generation Leadership Team and Head should be Intellegent, laborious, Dedicated, Alert and and acceptable as SOLID Jat Leadership who also take care of ambitions of the community
Further, it is my personal view that Jats should have proper leadership share in almost all National Political Parties and all Major Regional Parties. Jats should not rally behind a few or a single political party.
Thanks to all
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amankadian
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Big Brother.
I am not a supporter of BJP, Congress and INLD. I just found our PM wrong at his speech . I have deep knowledge of Mass-Communication, Press release and Merket research.
Example:- If Obama will visit to India. He will praise only India achievements and relationship. Also he'll appreciate Indian PM. He'll never say that US is far better than you Indian. Event and Inauguration just praise leadership and people. He will describe how he could help Indian with development.
If anyone don't understand what speech should be for event, what should be for politician promotion. That's his/her problem. But I felt wrong I wrote.
How people will be in discipline? If man of the country is doing wrong thing.
2nd Jitni bhi seat ayegi Congress ki Hooda ek dam pe ayegi Congress. 5 aye ya 50 aye. Her vote hooda ki waja se. Congress ke name vote nhi hogi.
3rd R kumar ji said. Politics is mind game. Is it agree. BJP using dirty mind everywhere in UP, Haryana etc.
Are you guys really don't understand meaning of speech? really man
Or just hiding a huge mistake of government?
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amankadian
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Big Brother.
I am not a supporter of BJP, Congress and INLD. I just found our PM wrong at his speech . I have deep knowledge of Mass-Communication, Press release and Merket research.
Example:- If Obama will visit to India. He will praise only India achievements and relationship. Also he'll appreciate Indian PM. He'll never say that US is far better than you Indian. Event and Inauguration just praise leadership and people. He will describe how he could help Indian with development.
If anyone don't understand what speech should be for event, what should be for politician promotion. That's his/her problem. But I felt wrong I wrote.
How people will be in discipline? If man of the country is doing wrong thing.
2nd Jitni bhi seat ayegi Congress ki Hooda ek dam pe ayegi Congress. 5 aye ya 50 aye. Her vote hooda ki waja se. Congress ke name vote nhi hogi.
3rd R kumar ji said. Politics is mind game. Is it agree. BJP using dirty mind everywhere in UP, Haryana etc.
Are you guys really don't understand meaning of speech? really man
Or just hiding a huge mistake of government?
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amankadian
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before 2004 People was suffering in Haryana. Farmer and service man were suffering more than business. After 10 years you can see huge development. Some roads are better than Australia and USA. Panipat to rohtak highway is my fav. one. Kissan sabse jayda khush haryana ke I can bet on it. Per hand income is near 1.5 lakh/year. Metro, new rail lines, free hospital service and free transportation for them. 150 new collages and some new universities, 4-5 new power plant. Haryana main power ki problem esliye we dont have any dam, even we can't make it. Haryana depend on Thermal power plant and coil. Jobs vacancies.
Beautiful and richest cities:- Panchkula, Guragaon ( Skyline) ,........ Pure Haryana main Metro jail falne ke plan. Rotak ko kitna change kia.
I can say Hooda did great. he did his best, I appreciate his job.
No two words on this. Haryana progressed a lot during last 10 years. Unfortunately politics is not just about development. Had it been so, congress would have won many more seats in Lok Sabha elections. I am not sure if congress will win the forthcoming elections in Haryana. However, I am sure of one thing. Haryana "Hooda" ki CM-ship ko yad karke aise hi roya karega jaise "kutte ko maarkar banzara roya thaa.
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amankadian
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No chance for winning 45 seats. Agree
Main thing is that he has started a base of Development process. this will lead Haryana to Next level, And here people will expect more form further govt.
And he spent 10 years as CM, Not bad?
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