Whom to Vote in Haryana Assembly Elections, 2014

[vikrantchodhary]

Speculation : There would be bargaining by BJP for Chief Minister Post of Haryana. BJP will offer Defence Ministry to Sri Om Prakash Chautala in lieu of power in Haryana State.

*Haryana is only state of North India where BJP never had her party's CM.

 

[vikrantchodhary]

इंडियन नेशनल लोकदल कि बड़े जोर कि लहर चली....................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyC5Vz59Vmg

 

[amankadian]

1. Most of people say Hooda has done good work but it's time for change that change is BJP not INLD

2. People have good positive attitude for modi in haryana.

3. BJP better or INLD. People may think BJP.

4. People say bjp is biased party, if hooda will be next cm, then Bjp will not help out hooda.


Ab khi na khi Muskil bad rahi hai INLD ke liye bhi. Ager bjp ke votes Jayadtaar INLD ko shift nhi hue to gai bhes pani main. Congress ki tickets ani baki hai dekho.

 

[abhikrana]

Rajpal ji,

I would differ with you on this aspect.

This topic/elections is very much related to the topic of Love Jihad which a few fellow members have brought up in various replies from them.

Love Jihad is very much a reality and there is a trend that we see happening across various states where there is a sizable population of a particular community. We can ignore it at our own peril. All I am asking those members who support Hindu girls marrying into that particular community is 'whether they would want/allow/agree girls from their families to marry Muslims?' And moreover Love Jihad is not just simple inter-faith marriage, it has an angle of cheating and deception built into it.

Indian constitution has given us this right to vote for parties that speak for our (Hindu) rights. During Muzaffarnagar riots when all other pseudo secular parties including RLD stood by one particular community, ONLY BJP stood by Jats (Hindus). I don't care what was the reason - whether political or apolitical. I only care that it stood by my Jat brothers in Muzaffarnagar in their hour of need.

Friend,

You would appreciate that this topic is not related with the thread heading and if you wish to discuss this issue, it could be discussed elsewhere !

Thanks and regards

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Originally Posted by upendersingh
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Why did Muslims invade our country and enslave us? Why did they loot our wealth? Why did they slaughter us in lacs, while ours was no fault? Why did they compelled our women to perform johar? Why do they still want to finish us? Each question should be answered, then you should talk this damn Hindu-Muslim unity............................................. .........................................



Friend,

You would appreciate that this topic is not related with the thread heading and if you wish to discuss this issue, it could be discussed elsewhere !

Thanks and regards

Rajpal ji,

I would differ with you on this aspect.

This topic/elections is very much related to the topic of Love Jihad which a few fellow members have brought up in various replies from them.

Love Jihad is very much a reality and there is a trend that we see happening across various states where there is a sizable population of a particular community. We can ignore it at our own peril. All I am asking those members who support Hindu girls marrying into that particular community is 'whether they would want/allow/agree girls from their families to marry Muslims?' And moreover Love Jihad is not just simple inter-faith marriage, it has an angle of cheating and deception built into it.

Indian constitution has given us this right to vote for parties that speak for our (Hindu) rights. During Muzaffarnagar riots when all other pseudo secular parties including RLD stood by one particular community, ONLY BJP stood by Jats (Hindus). I don't care what was the reason - whether political or apolitical. I only care that it stood by my Jat brothers in Muzaffarnagar in their hour of need.

Friend

You have every right to differ if there is some justification in doing so. Kindly share in which way your post is related to the first two quotes.

It is totally different issue and as regards Haryana, none of the political parties has made this a political issue.

The drubbings in the by elections BJP had to face in UP, Rajasthan and Gujarat due to unworthy comments on 'love jehad' have made the party wiser to the extent that Sushil Modi has declared that he would not allow Nityanand Swami to participate in Bihar campaign.

The BJP has distanced from the above statement of the said party MP and ascribed it as his personal statement and not approved by the party.

You have repaid the debt of BJP as stated by you in your post without 'caring' for any reason !

None has objected to what you did in Muzaffernagar therefore kindly do not try to inject 'love jehad' where it is not required.

Thanks and regards

 

[skharb]

ek taza baat ye bhi aa rahi h ki mahendergarh s inld apni ticket change kar rahi h yadav candidate ki bajay kisi takur ko dey rahi h .......yani congress jahe jit jaye kyu ki rao dansingh hoga congress s per
rambilas sharma ko har halat m harana h........................good move agar aisa hota h too .

 

[abhikrana]

Rajpal ji,

These comments are relevant because the wrongs being done to Hindus in the name of Communal violence bill, Muzaffarnagar, reservation for a particular faith/religion, comments such as first among equals for a particular community have not arisen in a day or two. These are a chain of events which started hundreds of years ago and still continuing. The only difference is that earlier Hindu persecution and victimization was done by the outside invaders, today it is done by pseudo secular parties. So the present persecution has also to be seen from historical perspective and is relevant to this topic in the context of voting for parties which speak and stand by for the rights of Hindus.

I again differ with your analysis that BJP lost in the recently held elections because of its focus on Love Jihad. I would disagree. One of the main reasons among others mentioned by me in my earlier posts is that Muslims voters consolidated behind one party (BSP did not participate in elections thereby helping SP) and Hindu votes scattered.

I am a little amused by the words used by you - 'repaying the debt' and 'injecting love jihad'. Muzaffarnagar has shown us who are our friends and who are our foes. We can either learn from it or keep repeating our mistakes. Also I don't believe in injecting anything. The truth is we cannot wish away hard facts that we don't like.

Also, I think you have wrongly mentioned Nityanand Swamy who had got nothing to do with the recently concluded elections.

Regards,

Originally Posted by upendersingh
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Why did Muslims invade our country and enslave us? Why did they loot our wealth? Why did they slaughter us in lacs, while ours was no fault? Why did they compelled our women to perform johar? Why do they still want to finish us? Each question should be answered, then you should talk this damn Hindu-Muslim unity............................................. .........................................



Friend,

You would appreciate that this topic is not related with the thread heading and if you wish to discuss this issue, it could be discussed elsewhere !

Thanks and regards





Friend

You have every right to differ if there is some justification in doing so. Kindly share in which way your post is related to the first two quotes.

It is totally different issue and as regards Haryana, none of the political parties has made this a political issue.

The drubbings in the by elections BJP had to face in UP, Rajasthan and Gujarat due to unworthy comments on 'love jehad' have made the party wiser to the extent that Sushil Modi has declared that he would not allow Nityanand Swami to participate in Bihar campaign.

The BJP has distanced from the above statement of the said party MP and ascribed it as his personal statement and not approved by the party.

You have repaid the debt of BJP as stated by you in your post without 'caring' for any reason !

None has objected to what you did in Muzaffernagar therefore kindly do not try to inject 'love jehad' where it is not required.

Thanks and regards

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Rajpal ji,

These comments are relevant because the wrongs being done to Hindus in the name of Communal violence bill, Muzaffarnagar, reservation for a particular faith/religion, comments such as first among equals for a particular community have not arisen in a day or two. These are a chain of events which started hundreds of years ago and still continuing. The only difference is that earlier Hindu persecution and victimization was done by the outside invaders, today it is done by pseudo secular parties. So the present persecution has also to be seen from historical perspective and is relevant to this topic in the context of voting for parties which speak and stand by for the rights of Hindus.
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You have rightly said that to understand the present problems the study of history in proper perspective is necessary.

To put Hindu Muslim relations in right perspective kindly join discussion on the thread in history section : http://www.jatland.com/forums/showt...s-Events-and-their-Impact&p=367860#post367860

Thanks,

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Rajpal ji,

These comments are relevant because the wrongs being done to Hindus in the name of Communal violence bill, Muzaffarnagar, reservation for a particular faith/religion, comments such as first among equals for a particular community have not arisen in a day or two. These are a chain of events which started hundreds of years ago and still continuing. The only difference is that earlier Hindu persecution and victimization was done by the outside invaders, today it is done by pseudo secular parties. So the present persecution has also to be seen from historical perspective and is relevant to this topic in the context of voting for parties which speak and stand by for the rights of Hindus.

I again differ with your analysis that BJP lost in the recently held elections because of its focus on Love Jihad. I would disagree. One of the main reasons among others mentioned by me in my earlier posts is that Muslims voters consolidated behind one party (BSP did not participate in elections thereby helping SP) and Hindu votes scattered.

I am a little amused by the words used by you - 'repaying the debt' and 'injecting love jihad'. Muzaffarnagar has shown us who are our friends and who are our foes. We can either learn from it or keep repeating our mistakes. Also I don't believe in injecting anything. The truth is we cannot wish away hard facts that we don't like.

Also, I think you have wrongly mentioned Nityanand Swamy who had got nothing to do with the recently concluded elections.

Regards,

Asking a particular religious group or community enmasse to a particular person or political party is unlawful and anti-constitutional demand, hence must not be raised here on the site so as to avoid landing in trouble the site too ! Hope the participants will look at the writing on the wall and cooperate !

We must read official line of the party regarding Muslims in India as made clear by tallest BJP Leader, Narrendra Modi, who is also at present the Prime Minister of India :

"Indian Muslims will live for India, they will die for India — they will not want anything bad for India," Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said in his first interview after assuming office.

"My understanding is that they are doing injustice towards the Muslims of our country. If anyone thinks Indian Muslims will dance to their tune, they are delusional," Modi told CNN's Fareed Zakaria when asked about the head of al-Qaida issuing a video and an appeal trying to create an al-Qaida in India- South Asia.

He was also put a question about the remarkable phenomenon that out of the 170 million Muslims in India, there seemed to be no or very few members of al-Qaida even though it is in Afghanistan and Pakistan. "What is it that has made this community not as susceptible?"

Source - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...M-Narendra-Modi-says/articleshow/42887232.cms

Regarding 'appeasement and selective policies' adopted by the party/parties mentioned in your posts, they have been more than enough punished by the Indian voters in the Parliament elections.

Regarding the role of Nityanand Maharaj in recently concluded elections, he himself has claimed credit for the victory of BJP in Saharanpur, Noida etc assembly seats.

For success of BJP in West Bengal in getting one assembly seat from TMC and loosing 3 out of 4 seats in Rajasthan and 3 seats in Gujarat are the topic being discussed in the thread :http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?37637-Modi-wave-diminishing

On the issue of 'love jehad' the Home Minister and former BJP president has denied knowledge about its presence. There is no reason for us to disbelieve him.

Even if one likes to comment further on the issues mentioned above, he is free to do so in the respective threads; and, this thread may kindly be left for the discussion on the theme selected as its topic of discussion.

So kindly join discussion on Haryana Assembly elections 2014 on this thread and any other subsidiary or indirectly related issues in their proper sub-forums/forums.

Thanks and best wishes

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Kindly share the list of nominees whenever available?

As suggested here is the second list of BSP candidates and the news item published in the Tribune :

BSP releases second list of 16​

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Karnal, September 18
The BSP today announced its second list of 16 candidates and put to rest talk of a mega alliance in the state with its participation. Talking to mediapersons at the residence of Assandh candidate Maratha Virender Verma in Jhanjhari, state president Naresh Saran said names of 33 candidates had been announced and the remaining would be released shortly.
Saran said Sudama Baudh will contest from Barwala, Rajbanti from Bawal, Mahesh Rana from Hodal, Master Surinder Yadav from Nagal Choudhary and Gopi Ram Chaliya from Jhajjar seat.
The remaining candidates are: Dalbir Bhann (Guhla), Karnail Singh Nagla (Mulana); Ajit Singh (Pataudi); Rajesh Soni (Meham); Subhash Chander Sharma (Baroda); Sanjay Pehalwan (Buwanikehra); Sudhir Gautam (Jind), Jawed Ahmed (Sohna), Taiyab Hussain (Hathin), Sardar Ram Singh Kodwa (Naraingarh) and Subhash Solanki (Kharkhoda).
Saran ruled out the possibility of alliance with any party and said the party would contest the election on its own in accordance with the wish of supremo Mayawati.
Replying to a question over Arvind Sharma’s constituency, Saran said, “Arvind Sharma is our chief ministerial candidate. He can contest from any seat.” — TNS

 

[drrajpalsingh]

In Haryana several new political parties have emerged recently. In addition to others, retired police officers and officials have also jumped into the battle for ballot. Read the following interesting extract from a news story published today:

For political gains​

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  [*]Two recently retired IPS officers — ADGP Ram Chander Jowal and IGP Ranbir Sharma — have floated their own parties
  [*]Raj Singh Mor, another cop, is the INLD nominee from the Narnaund Assembly segment of Hisar
  [*]The wife of Faridabad DCP Rajesh Duggal, Sunita Duggal, is a claimant for the BJP ticket
  [*]Former ADGP PV Rathi, who puts in his papers as the principal adviser to the CM, is said to be keen on contesting the poll on the Congress ticket
  [*]Ranbir Sharma, who had joined AAP during the Lok Sabha poll, has floated Lok Swaraj Party

The lucky lot​

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  [*]Some lower rank policemen have been lucky enough to win elections
  [*]Former MLAs Bali Pahlwan from Meham in Rohtak, Udey Singh Dalal from Badli in Jhajjar, Dharm Singh Chhoker from Samalkha had served as constables before they joined politics
  [*][Source and further details :http://www.tribuneindia.com/2014/20140920/haryana.htm#2]

 

[drrajpalsingh]

It is likely that INLD and BJP lists of remaining candidates and complete list of candidates of Congress will be declared today by the evening. The nomination filing has started from today and will continue upto 27th September.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

INLD list of eight candidates has been released. One candidate of INLD namely Rao Bahadur Singh has been replaced by Women Wing District President Mrs. Tanwar on the recommendation of the former from Mahendergarh Assembly seat.

Addressing the media Abhay Singh Chautala said that remaining 9 out of 90 candidates. including therein two candidates of SAD, will be declared on 23 September.

 

[abhikrana]

Rajpal ji,

My reply in blue.

Asking a particular religious group or community enmasse to a particular person or political party is unlawful and anti-constitutional demand, hence must not be raised here on the site so as to avoid landing in trouble the site too ! Hope the participants will look at the writing on the wall and cooperate !

Almost everyone in India including Sonia Gandhi, Kejriwal and the pseudo-secular brigade members have been asking Muslims to vote for them because wrongs have been done to muslims. So, if something is wrong with that, action should be first taken against them.

There is nothing wrong in appealing to a particular section of society to vote for it. I have NEVER EVER used or professed violence against anyone in any of my posts. All I am saying that we should vote for a party which speaks for Hindus should be voted for, for the sake of our future generations. What is unconstitutional (or anti-constitutional) about it?????

We must read official line of the party regarding Muslims in India as made clear by tallest BJP Leader, Narrendra Modi, who is also at present the Prime Minister of India :

"Indian Muslims will live for India, they will die for India — they will not want anything bad for India," Prime Minister Narendra Modi has said in his first interview after assuming office.

"My understanding is that they are doing injustice towards the Muslims of our country. If anyone thinks Indian Muslims will dance to their tune, they are delusional," Modi told CNN's Fareed Zakaria when asked about the head of al-Qaida issuing a video and an appeal trying to create an al-Qaida in India- South Asia.

He was also put a question about the remarkable phenomenon that out of the 170 million Muslims in India, there seemed to be no or very few members of al-Qaida even though it is in Afghanistan and Pakistan. "What is it that has made this community not as susceptible?"

Source - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...M-Narendra-Modi-says/articleshow/42887232.cms

Regarding 'appeasement and selective policies' adopted by the party/parties mentioned in your posts, they have been more than enough punished by the Indian voters in the Parliament elections.

These anti-Hindu pseudo secular parties still exist and their evil designs need to be discussed so that we do not repeat the mistakes that we have been doing over and over again.


Regarding the role of Nityanand Maharaj in recently concluded elections, he himself has claimed credit for the victory of BJP in Saharanpur, Noida etc assembly seats.

Again you are wrongly quoting Nityanand Maharaj/Swami. Request you to correct yourself.

For success of BJP in West Bengal in getting one assembly seat from TMC and loosing 3 out of 4 seats in Rajasthan and 3 seats in Gujarat are the topic being discussed in the thread :http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?37637-Modi-wave-diminishing

On the issue of 'love jehad' the Home Minister and former BJP president has denied knowledge about its presence. There is no reason for us to disbelieve him.

I don't accept what the Home Minister or the former BJP President says as the last word or Gospel's truth. Do you yourself actually and truthfully believe in every word that comes from them or other politicians???? I think not.



Even if one likes to comment further on the issues mentioned above, he is free to do so in the respective threads; and, this thread may kindly be left for the discussion on the theme selected as its topic of discussion.

Whatever I have discussed is in the context of the forthcoming assembly elections - voting for a party which speaks for and stands for the larger interests of Hindus (including Jats).

So kindly join discussion on Haryana Assembly elections 2014 on this thread and any other subsidiary or indirectly related issues in their proper sub-forums/forums.

Thanks and best wishes

 

[skharb]

BJP complete finish in haryana ..................5 orr 6 seat wo bhi uska non kader jit sakta h muskil se (kahi na khai uljh pluj m) orr post poll bjp ho jygi zero anda kyuki sare bhagh milkha bhag jitege............ticket declare 90 k baad ka seen h yu ........................orr ha surinder barwala ki jamant jabt hogi jind s :victorious:
m garh ka dicision bhoot sahi liya h inld n..............jaisa ki yesterday post m jiker kiya tha .

 

[amankadian]

BJP complete finish in haryana ..................5 orr 6 seat wo bhi uska non kader jit sakta h muskil se (kahi na khai uljh pluj m) orr post poll bjp ho jygi zero anda kyuki sare bhagh milkha bhag jitege............ticket declare 90 k baad ka seen h yu ........................orr ha surinder barwala ki jamant jabt hogi jind s :victorious:
m garh ka dicision bhoot sahi liya h inld n..............jaisa ki yesterday post m jiker kiya tha .

Muskil hai itni buri honi BJP gella......................... kuch Log soch rhe hai centre haryana ek sarkar hogi to fayda hoga, Lol change chahte hai wo Change unhe BJP ke roop main dikta hai... 10-15 seat awegi bhai aram se or jayda aa jewe to fir bhi shock nhi hona chiye,

 

[skharb]

Muskil hai itni buri honi BJP gella......................... kuch Log soch rhe hai centre haryana ek sarkar hogi to fayda hoga, Lol change chahte hai wo Change unhe BJP ke roop main dikta hai... 10-15 seat awegi bhai aram se or jayda aa jewe to fir bhi shock nhi hona chiye,

aaj ek tv debate m abay singh n abimanyu ko challenge kiye h ki agar wo jit gaya too rajniti chhood donga .
isko confidence kahte h .......waise bhi inld culture hamesea front foot p betting karta h .....seat 2 kam aa jyo marod jaroor kade gaye .......arr aise hi worker s kam ho na ho per marod jat ki rahne chaiye ....................
haa agar rohtak sonipat hi dey raha ho 10 seat bjp n too yu hooda ji ki sardardi s na ki inld ki

 

[amankadian]

aaj ek tv debate m abay singh n abimanyu ko challenge kiye h ki agar wo jit gaya too rajniti chhood donga .
isko confidence kahte h .......waise bhi inld culture hamesea front foot p betting karta h .....seat 2 kam aa jyo marod jaroor kade gaye .......arr aise hi worker s kam ho na ho per marod jat ki rahne chaiye ....................
haa agar rohtak sonipat hi dey raha ho 10 seat bjp n too yu hooda ji ki sardardi s na ki inld ki

Sonipat, Rohatk, Jajjar hooda effected hai.

 

[vikrantchodhary]

Muskil hai itni buri honi BJP gella......................... kuch Log soch rhe hai centre haryana ek sarkar hogi to fayda hoga, Lol change chahte hai wo Change unhe BJP ke roop main dikta hai... 10-15 seat awegi bhai aram se or jayda aa jewe to fir bhi shock nhi hona chiye,

100 saal baad aawegi BJP toh............vah bhi jibb ..................jabb JATs chavenge............

Gaon ka aadmi eib bhi BJP ko vote nahin geranga..............yeh sthaniye chunav hai.............

Yeh Haryana hain agar yahan Chautala jaise zameeni neta ko 10 saal rukna padd sakta hain to BJP toh bhool jaon.............haan Congress ke chance hain kyunki

Congress ki cleaning ho rahi hain ............................chuhe (Rats) neta JAHAZ chod rahen hain....................jiss karan good candidates ko ticket milna aasaan ho javenga...............

BJP polarisation kar rahin hain aaj bhi......jaise Sonipat Lok Sabha se Bahman jeet gaya...usi taraj par bahadurgarh main iss baar 2 Jaton ( INLD-Congress) ke beech pandat khada kar rakha hai pher............................yeh polarisation baarem baar nahin chalta.........

 

[vikkisingh]

as of now its a 4 cornered contest (if we ignore newborns and bsp)

4 contestants are bjp,congress,hjc,inld

congress will likely pay the price for anti incumbency....public anger against congress was visible in loksabha polls...what huda sahab gets in rohtak belt is an interesting thing wait and watch

what are the other choices.
kuldeep rejected by public in past 2 elections ..loksabha (2014)plus vidhnsabha (when his mlas ran away too)
rejected by his partner ...

bjp ....was never a big name in haryana...till this loksabha election....bjp was always prominent in neighbouring rahjasthan or in delhi ,in himachal...plz note that it has formed govt in all these states in past and presently in full majority in rajasthan....its always enjoys some support in punjab...



i think bjp has been able to achieve this in almost all states rajasthan,punjab,delhi himachal ..but not in haryana....(plz correct me if i am wrong...also not considering up which is a different political game)

Thus its very interesting
bjp vote share/bank whatever it is in haryana is very thinly distributed...
it shows bjp benefits immensely from partnership....in haryana
this is evident in 2014 loksabha elections too

otherwise its not in a position to make any significant impact ....
borrowing leaders is its keycard this time...in all probability it would fail...considering that these borrowed leaders were not considered good enough by public plus their own political party

inld has first mover advantage has always enjoyed solid support in haryana ....and as i had pointed out earlier ..looks set to emerge as the single largest party in haryana....

might get majority on its own too...however considering the tremendous change in voter attitude observed everywhere it needs to work hard...not take anything lightly