Exit polls, Results and who is who in Haryana Vidhan Sabha 2014

Samar bhai, cool down. I can understand your emotions, but further dividing an already divided community would not help the Jat cause.

We have been successively fooled by successive Jat CMs. It's the time for introspection instead of calling each other names.

Samarkadian said:
Grass always greener on the Greenland but in real its full of Ice Sir.
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AbhikRana said:
Samar bhai, It is not a question of Jats versus Punjabis.

This false impression created by the previous Cong. govt. that Jats were being favoured has divided the voters on Jats vs. Non-Jat lines. And this time the Non-Jat votes including Ahirs, Gujjars, baniyas, pandats, punjabis consolidated behind BJP.

If South Haryana (Ahirs) would not want a Punjabi CM, they would not want a Jat CM either. They were pinning their hopes on Rao Inderjeet as CM and that was the overwhelming reason for their support to BJP.

But the Jat apathy towards BJP has cost the Jats dear. Both Rao Inderjeet and KrishanPal Gurjar are central ministers. But there is no Jat from Haryana in the union ministry because we preferred to maintain distance from the BJP.

I only hope that Capt. Abhimanyu despite the overall Jat apathy towards BJP, would be given some key role in Haryana or else a berth in the Union cabinet.
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So what BJP did by overlooking an Yadav mandate? You are so against congress and its policies but you couldn't see how they played this CM ship. In Mahendergarh they Project Ram Bilas Sharma, In Narnaund, Shah indicated Capt Abhimanyu, in Badli Dhankhar and in Ahirwal an Ahir.. If BJP has a policy to win election under a name like they declared Modi as PM candidate why they followed a congress strategy in assembly elections.? So you agree that MLA's choice wasnt a factor in this cockroach refugee's naming as CM?
 
AbhikRana said:
Samar bhai, cool down. I can understand your emotions, but further dividing an already divided community would not help the Jat cause.

We have been successively fooled by successive Jat CMs. It's the time for introspection instead of calling each other names.
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Abhik Bhai, I am not being fooled by the previous Jat CM at all. He did whatever a JAT cm could have done risking his political career for giving SBC to jats to which you would not agree as per your own anti-congress beliefs to which I have no issues but you should also see divisive politics of BJP clearly. If not then its no use discussing here.
 
Samarkadian said:
...... South Haryana gave maximum MLAs then why this refugee was ''nominated''. He wasnt elected by MLAs rather forced by Modi and Shah. Thats the rationale.
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Do you think BJP would have won as many seats in Haryana without Modi factor ? Your answer to this simple question should explain your above comment.

RK^2
 
That is not divisive politics. That is pragmatism especially in a state which votes overwhelmingly on the basis of caste. And that is exactly the reason that they did not project any CM candidate before the elections.

The CMship might have gone, but there are other influential positions which the Jats can eye either in Haryana or in the Union govt. Ch. Virender Singh as per his wife should at least get a union cabinet berth and rightly so. Let us wait and watch as to how the BJP balances the opposing claims of the various caste power centres to key/plum positions in order to keep all happy.

Another question to ponder is: If we are so against the outsiders (refugees), why did we let them settle amongst us? That time we took pity on them and helped them in every possible way. They got better education and took all our jobs and today the CMs chair also. THIS IS IMMINENT when the outsiders are allowed to settle and prosper in your area. Today they are domiciled in Haryana and cannot be called outsiders by any stretch of imagination. Even under a Jat CM they prospered more than any other community. So, what good was the Jat CM? Just giving a few class 3 or 4 jobs to Jats, waiving of bank loans, electricity bills, etc, etc? These are all political gimmicks and certainly do not help the community in its endevour of permanent and long term upliftment.

Samarkadian said:
Abhik Bhai, I am not being fooled by the previous Jat CM at all. He did whatever a JAT cm could have done risking his political career for giving SBC to jats to which you would not agree as per your own anti-congress beliefs to which I have no issues but you should also see divisive politics of BJP clearly. If not then its no use discussing here.
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rkumar said:
Do you think BJP would have won as many seats in Haryana without Modi factor ? Your answer to this simple question should explain your above comment.

RK^2
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There is nothing in existence like MODI FACTOR.

Non Jats especially OTHER BACKWARD CASTES turned against JATs due to RESERVATION given to JATs

Bhamans act according to their greed and selfishness. Can be accounted if we traverse History. This time too they sidelined ANTI JAT Groupism led by REFUGEES.

Baniya had supported INLD in past ....... with half intention this time too they had supported INLD but slightly less than BJP.

Scheduled caste is the only flock which has supported JATS this time. Overwhelming support one can assume.

Where ever there was a STRONG JAT candidate he/she has won , whichever party they belong to , as arisen of BJP was assessed by Voters and whereever PLATFORM was provided to VOTER they acted wisely in favour of JATs.

If no party is willing to stand JAT as candidate on ROHTAK seat who to blame for ? Interesting thing is that after DELIMITATION of ROHTAK seat by commission that area of ROHTAK is added to this seat which was earlier in KILOI constituency ......i.e. semi rural new developing Rohtak.

But I doubt our politicians had time to see DELIMITATION COMMISSION Report before announcing tickets.
 
desijat said:
I guess, he and many others did try to stop this by not voting for a party that is known for being anti-jat when others were questioning them for doing so and calling such folks traitors of country.
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I think he just helped BJP knowingly or unknowingly.
 
rkumar said:
Do you think BJP would have won as many seats in Haryana without Modi factor ? Your answer to this simple question should explain your above comment.

RK^2
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In South Haryana, at Gurgaon rally Modi himself accepted about his wave. It was not Modi wave but Ahirwal's anti- hooda and An Ahir Chief Ministerial aspirations. Not less , not more.
 
Arvindc said:
Why did Rohtak seat went to BJP?
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bhaijaan Rohtak sehar mai punjaabi ghane sai, jaatan k mukable. audai jaatan ki koni chalti. batra hooda ka khas sai per uhh nai koye khass kaam koni karaye punjabiya ke. tai ibkai doosra punjabi jitaya sai, yo soch kai ke punjabi mukhmantri bann sake sai. lokdal nai ek bahman khada kara tha per uhh ki daal na galli katti bi.
 
Samarkadian said:
In South Haryana, at Gurgaon rally Modi himself accepted about his wave. It was not Modi wave but Ahirwal's anti- hooda and An Ahir Chief Ministerial aspirations. Not less , not more.
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Samar bhai,
BJP ploy or whatever you say, but with these election results you can't rule out Modi wave.
 
Punjabi Laddu batn lag rhe sher main or bol rhe bahut saalo baad mote dimag walo se chutkara mila.

Jab Punjabi and other caste non-Jaat ko banne main itni jaan laga sakti hai....Bjp ke sath milke.....Ham Jat Jat cm ko nhi cha sakte.


Sab non-jat non-jat cm kar rhe hai....Ager caste matter hi na hoti unke liye to ye baat samne ati hi nhi..

Kuch khaccdaariyo ke paid member jatland pe bhi hai jo still unki non-jat ke rag ga rhe hai........For Their kind information ye Jat website hai. ager Anti jaat hona to khi or jake ho jaye.

I request to admin non-jat policy ko kam se kam JL hatya jaye.
 
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amankadian said:
Punjabi Laddu batn lag rhe sher main or bol rhe bahut saalo baad mote dimag walo se chutkara mila.

Jab Punjabi and other caste non-Jaat ko banne main itni jaan laga sakti hai....Bjp ke sath milke.....Ham Jat Jat cm ko nhi cha sakte.


Sab non-jat non-jat cm kar rhe hai....Ager caste matter hi na hoti unke liye to ye baat samne ati hi nhi..

Kuch khaccdaariyo ke paid member jatland pe bhi hai jo still unki non-jat ke rag ga rhe hai........For Their kind information ye Jat website hai. ager Anti jaat hona to khi or jake ho jaye.

I request to admin non-jat policy ko kam se kam JL hatya jaye.
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Aman bhai,
Maimi tayi laddoo aa liye ke? Kaun ladoo bat rha hai wo main hai ya Chaudhar hath se kyu gyi wo main hai? Bhai teri Pro-jat INLD kyu fail ho gyi? Congress ka to samaj aya ki anti-incumbency thi? Bhai waise der saver tanne bhi jat, non-jat ke certificate battne shuru kar diye.
 
Prikshit said:
Aman bhai,
Maimi tayi laddoo aa liye ke? Kaun ladoo bat rha hai wo main hai ya Chaudhar hath se kyu gyi wo main hai? Bhai teri Pro-jat INLD kyu fail ho gyi? Congress ka to samaj aya ki anti-incumbency thi? Bhai waise der saver tanne bhi jat, non-jat ke certificate battne shuru kar diye.
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Ghar pe hoon bhai.

INLD ka fail hone main karan yahi hai support sirf jats milli... Usmain se bada share BJP or Congress ko bhi gaya hai.. Congress ki bhi 8-9 seats hooda aapne dam pe nikal laya....ager sab jaan laga dete to 20-22 seat aa jati. Main pro INLD or Pro Congress na hoon bhai.


Main baat ye hai Haryana main Jat cm banne ke 100s reasons hai... Or Punjabi cm banne ka ek hi reasons hai ki wo Non-jat hai. Reason aapko hi pata hai kyun banya gaya Non-Jat cm... Ye vote bank ki raajniti hai..



Or hamhe jat or no jat start nhi kia....Ye BJP ne or Punjabiyo ki starting..... Dekho cm to non-jaat hi banega....Kisne ye nhi bola ki non-Gujjar hai Non-Bhrimin hai etc.....Sheeda sheeda nisna jaato pe laga diya hai....
 
5-6 jatland pe asie members hai Prikshit... They're protecting each and everything about a particular party. Are they getting paid by bjp or rss. or khud kaccha daari hai..


Why they're behaving like anti Jat policy. Aap khud modi supporter ho kya aap khud feel nhi karte Haryana BJP anti jat hai.
 
amankadian said:
Ghar pe hoon bhai.

INLD ka fail hone main karan yahi hai support sirf jats milli... Usmain se bada share BJP or Congress ko bhi gaya hai.. Congress ki bhi 8-9 seats hooda aapne dam pe nikal laya....ager sab jaan laga dete to 20-22 seat aa jati. Main pro INLD or Pro Congress na hoon bhai.



Main baat ye hai Haryana main Jat cm banne ke 100s reasons hai... Or Punjabi cm banne ka ek hi reasons hai ki wo Non-jat hai. Reason aapko hi pata hai kyun banya gaya Non-Jat cm... Ye vote bank ki raajniti hai..



Or hamhe jat or no jat start nhi kia....Ye BJP ne or Punjabiyo ki starting..... Dekho cm to non-jaat hi banega....Kisne ye nhi bola ki non-Gujjar hai Non-Bhrimin hai etc.....Sheeda sheeda nisna jaato pe laga diya hai....
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Gujjar, Bahman ki itni aukaat hai jitni JAT ke. Lalkara bhi balwaan ko hi jaata hai. Haryana ke gujjaro, bahmano, ne kitne chotu ram, devilal, chautala paida kar diye.
 
RathiJi said:
Gujjar, Bahman ki itni aukaat hai jitni JAT ke. Lalkara bhi balwaan ko hi jaata hai. Haryana ke gujjaro, bahmano, ne kitne chotu ram, devilal, chautala paida kar diye.
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Thanks brother. Strong point
 
Why did you not elect 20 Jat BJP MLA's to have a Jat CM. I would blame you for us not having a Jat CM.

Today it is the Punjabis, with the changing demography and inter-state migration tomorrow it is going to be a Bihari CM. Let us not forget that Bihari/UP migrants elect Bihari/UP MPs and MLAs from Mumbai.

Instead of discussing this peculiar situation and finding a solution, you and others like you are unnecessarily indulging in personal attacks against fellow members. Highly irrational and illogical approach.

amankadian said:
Ghar pe hoon bhai.

INLD ka fail hone main karan yahi hai support sirf jats milli... Usmain se bada share BJP or Congress ko bhi gaya hai.. Congress ki bhi 8-9 seats hooda aapne dam pe nikal laya....ager sab jaan laga dete to 20-22 seat aa jati. Main pro INLD or Pro Congress na hoon bhai.


Main baat ye hai Haryana main Jat cm banne ke 100s reasons hai... Or Punjabi cm banne ka ek hi reasons hai ki wo Non-jat hai. Reason aapko hi pata hai kyun banya gaya Non-Jat cm... Ye vote bank ki raajniti hai..



Or hamhe jat or no jat start nhi kia....Ye BJP ne or Punjabiyo ki starting..... Dekho cm to non-jaat hi banega....Kisne ye nhi bola ki non-Gujjar hai Non-Bhrimin hai etc.....Sheeda sheeda nisna jaato pe laga diya hai....
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