Why do haryana jats consider themselves superior?
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bipindahiya
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This is really ridiculous question but i think .,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., It's inborn quality can't be taught to those who are born suppressed .
I don't think so, if you think it may be true; the reason perhaps can be that haryanvis were slave of single ruler The English. Whereas UP and Raj people were double/multiple slaves of The English/Navabs or Rajas/Jagirdars. also haryanvis remained against Delhi rulers who so ever they were. Since Haryana people think independently. Those who think independent may feel superior to others.
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sumitjattan
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My friend nobody is superior just based on birth at a place. You need to prove yourself to be superior. Kindly reject such type of stereotypes if we have any.
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It is the most unfortunate thing that is happening on this site.
A few members trying their level best to divide Jat brotherhood on regional lines.
I think this is the reason it is feared that there can never be unity amongst Jats. Like Muslims, they will not only fight others, but among themselves.
I think it would be better if the editor of this site came forward and issued guidelines on this topic and also issued open warnings and possible ban to members who are trying to further divide a seemingly already divided community.
A few members trying their level best to divide Jat brotherhood on regional lines.
I think this is the reason it is feared that there can never be unity amongst Jats. Like Muslims, they will not only fight others, but among themselves.
I think it would be better if the editor of this site came forward and issued guidelines on this topic and also issued open warnings and possible ban to members who are trying to further divide a seemingly already divided community.
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New lesson in Jat history for me. Sir, will you please enlighten us about the Nawabs and Jagirdars under whom the Jats of western UP lived during British rule? Will you please tell us if there ever was any princely state under which Jats of western UP fell? I am bit surprised to read that Haryana Jats think more independently compare to western UP and Rajesthan Jats. You are talking as if Haryana never had any Nawabs. Should I refresh your memory with few Nawabs from Haryana? Ever heard of Nawab of Patudi who still calls himself that way? Do you remember Liakat Ali Khan the Nawab of Karnal who was the first PM of Pakistan? Here is a link which will enlighten you about many more Nawabs of Hansi and Hisar etc..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qaim_Khan
One can write a full book on the nawabs of present day Haryana. Sorry if it hurts.
RK^2
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Respected Sir,
I was not a history student, hence I used word 'I don't think so' and 'perhaps' in my quotes. I think after take over of English (Angrez) practically there existed no Jagirdar and Nawabs in Haryana, even some existed like Loharu Jind etc but Haryana public never paid any tax to them they had to leave their states.
I heartily feel sorry for hurting your sentiments otherwise I had no such intention
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vikrantchodhary
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Superiority & inferiority complex is a state of mind. They both are wrong n if one is present other one is also there.
Those possesing surperiority complex feel inferior at very small incidents. Like, the lastest Haryana CM episode. Can one non JAT CM make a race inferior that too in a democratic setup.
I dont find many reasons for our Haryanvi brothers to feel superior , I do find them doing good but there is a bubble somewhere which makes them less accomodating with other castes n sub groups.
Its not only fault of 1 state people here in UP Baghpat Jat feel themselves superior from Mathura Jat, Bulandsaher from Bijnor, muzzafarnagar from Moradabad etc etc.
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Sumit bhai, at least you don't take this divide further by taking it seriously.
There are some members here who take out their angst against their brothers by unnecessarily raking up regional issues thereby ignoring the consequences of their actions.
We need to stay away from this regional divide trap among Jats. Jats have been and will always be one. All for one and one for all.
There are some members here who take out their angst against their brothers by unnecessarily raking up regional issues thereby ignoring the consequences of their actions.
We need to stay away from this regional divide trap among Jats. Jats have been and will always be one. All for one and one for all.
sumitjattan
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samarkadian
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Abhishek bhai,
Seems like nobody asked you back the basis of your question but started assuming on their own.
When do you say that what exactly you mean by that and in what sense you have observed it? Superior to whom and how?
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amankadian
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Jaldi jaldi main likhu bhaiyo bura na maniyo
Well I don't want to hurt anybody. Truth is Truth
All are human---------- Then why Americans are different and superior from others.
1st I would like to talk about Haryana. Haryana main bhi different type of jats hai.
Part A- Sonepat, Rohtak, Jajjar
Part B- Panipat, Karnal
Part C- Khurusthera, Yumananage, Pankhula, Ambala
Part D- Jind, Kaithal
Part E- Fridabad, Gurgaon
Part F- Rewari, Mehandergarh, Bhiwani
Part G- Hisar, Fethabad, Sirsa.
Haryana is very small state, But a lot different between people.
When someone talk about Rajput-------It's belong to Rajesthan.
When someone talk about Shik----------It's belong to Punjab.
Like this when people talk about Jaat----------they connect it with Haryana. When you talk about Indian Army then no can't ignore the Haryanvi Jaats. When you talk about the sports ..........No one can't ignore Haryanvi jaats.
I request please don't take it wrong or personal. But Jat People who belong to haryana got different Blood, Different Personality, Different lifestyle.
Ek haryanvi jat ko aap hazaro main phaccan loge uski boli se. per syaad U.P or Rajesthan wale ko nhi.
I am not saying we're superior than other jats. But I can say that we're different, We have tag of Haryanvi Jat, People can judge us easily because of different personality.
2nd Haryana is Jatland this is main reason , It's nothing about Superior.
I am belong to Panipat, Even I think Rohtak ke jaat hamse jayda kadak type hai. Unki personality or jayda strong hai as a jat... So bhaiyo bura maane ki baat koi nhi hai.
Well I don't want to hurt anybody. Truth is Truth
All are human---------- Then why Americans are different and superior from others.
1st I would like to talk about Haryana. Haryana main bhi different type of jats hai.
Part A- Sonepat, Rohtak, Jajjar
Part B- Panipat, Karnal
Part C- Khurusthera, Yumananage, Pankhula, Ambala
Part D- Jind, Kaithal
Part E- Fridabad, Gurgaon
Part F- Rewari, Mehandergarh, Bhiwani
Part G- Hisar, Fethabad, Sirsa.
Haryana is very small state, But a lot different between people.
When someone talk about Rajput-------It's belong to Rajesthan.
When someone talk about Shik----------It's belong to Punjab.
Like this when people talk about Jaat----------they connect it with Haryana. When you talk about Indian Army then no can't ignore the Haryanvi Jaats. When you talk about the sports ..........No one can't ignore Haryanvi jaats.
I request please don't take it wrong or personal. But Jat People who belong to haryana got different Blood, Different Personality, Different lifestyle.
Ek haryanvi jat ko aap hazaro main phaccan loge uski boli se. per syaad U.P or Rajesthan wale ko nhi.
I am not saying we're superior than other jats. But I can say that we're different, We have tag of Haryanvi Jat, People can judge us easily because of different personality.
2nd Haryana is Jatland this is main reason , It's nothing about Superior.
I am belong to Panipat, Even I think Rohtak ke jaat hamse jayda kadak type hai. Unki personality or jayda strong hai as a jat... So bhaiyo bura maane ki baat koi nhi hai.
अरे भईया, क्या हम इस लेवल तक उतर सकते है? अपने अहंकार की संतुष्टि के लिए मे एक के बाद छोटी लाईन खींच रहे है... पर फील गुड करबे मे कछु ना जाइरो.... जब तक मुगालते मे रहो रह लैओ ... पर कुछ ज्यादा ही हो रहा है .... हरियाणा के लोग तो कल तक हुड्डा को भी superior जाट ना माने थे, आज का पता नही.....हा हा हा अब तो पश्चिमी ऊपी मे भी तीन तरह के वैराईटी जाट की थ्योरी आ गई....
काफी कुछ सीखने और समझने को मिल रहा है.... वाह री मेरे कमजोर निम्न अलीगढ़ी जाट बुद्धि.....आज की सरकार मे सुपीरियर लोगों की पूछ कम होने लगी है, मोदी जी कमजोर लोगो के साथ है......
काफी कुछ सीखने और समझने को मिल रहा है.... वाह री मेरे कमजोर निम्न अलीगढ़ी जाट बुद्धि.....आज की सरकार मे सुपीरियर लोगों की पूछ कम होने लगी है, मोदी जी कमजोर लोगो के साथ है......
Here I agree with you. People from different regions tend to be different in their attitude and habits. In western UP we too have our brands of Jats. Most ferocious Jats in UP come from Baraut and Sisoli area. Polished Jats come from Bulandshahar, simpler Jats from Mathura side. Gotra of a Jat is quite an indicator of his degree of toughness.
RK^2
upendersingh
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It is your wrong perception as you may be planning to settle there. Gone are those days when America was supposed to be superior from others. China have left them behind in almost all fields. That's why America is so much interested in India. Come out of your self-created imaginary world.
Because of various factors including Ch. Charan Singh and Ch. Mahender Singh Tikait, West U.P. is also known as for Jats dominancy and called/mentioned as Jatland. These army, sports like things are again your wrong perceptions. You can not ignore Jats from U.P. too as far as army is concerned. Saidpur village of Bulandshahar is popular all over India as from every home at least one person is in army there. If you have only army chief/only Paramvir Chakra winner, then we have had only Jat PM. How many gold medals Haryanvi Jats have won on world level? Nil. Am I wrong?
If you have some spare time ever then tour outside Haryana and ask the people you meet what impression they have about Haryanvi Jats. It is because of Haryanvi condutors/drivers etc (as all Haryanvi speaking people are taken as Jats, so all Jats have to suffer because of it). Such Haryanvi lower caste conductors/drivers have been given the name 'ghodu'. I also have to suffer with this tag many times, when I tell others my caste, but when I tell I am not from Haryana, but from West U.P., then my impression changes in their sight, thanks to gun culture of West U.P.
Ha ha ha...interesting...
Aman Kadian, mostly people in this world consider themselves supreme. European, American people think they are running this world, so they are supreme. Japanese, Russians, Chinese etc. have their own logics to feel supreme. In even India, mostly people will not say they are not supreme. Rajputs, Marathas, Brahmins, Vaishyas, Bengalis, Punjabis, Sikhs...list is very long...out of these which one feel they are not supreme. But in fact just feeling/considering oneself supreme is not enough. If others can mentally harass you for any reason then you are not supreme. European, American people don't have their own god. So they can be harassed mentally for that. Japanese can be harassed for they were attacked with atom bomb and they surrendered. Russians again religion problem and even beaten by Japan. Chinese beaten by Japan, having around 35% population Budhist. You Haryanvi Jats can be mentally harassed for having lowest sex ratio in the country and for having bride buying tradition. It is the bloody fact. I can give you proofs. Can you harass U.P. Jats for any reason with proof? If you can't then you are not superior brother. Haryana is no more a Jatland. In fact it has become non-Jatland in present.
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upendersingh
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If you have visited JatLand matrimonials and found there 'U.P. Jats please excuse', then don't worry. It is not because they are taking U.P. Jats inferior, but it is because they don't want to marry their girls off to U.P. Such confusions have been even in past and many non-Haryanvi Jats started the thread on same topic. Though you know better why you started this thread.
उपेंद्र जी, किसी ने सही कहा है कि हर चीज की एक सीमा होती है...कहाबत है कि अधकत गगरी छलकत जाय...यह सुपीरियरटी या औछापन का कीड़ा बे-मौसम बरसात के तरह, गाये बजाये टपकता रहता है, भाव न मिलने से सो जाता है॥.......पर आपको सटीक, सामयिक और आईना दिखाती पोस्ट के लिए धन्यवाद........
वैसे आज छुट्टी का दिन है और हमारे बीच कई वरिष्ठ, सजग, इतिहासकार, और ज्ञानी लोगों की प्रतिक्रिया का इंतजार है......
वैसे आज छुट्टी का दिन है और हमारे बीच कई वरिष्ठ, सजग, इतिहासकार, और ज्ञानी लोगों की प्रतिक्रिया का इंतजार है......
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