Boycott PK?

Amit bhai, agar aap sahi mein Hindu dharm ko reform karna chahte hain toh Kuritiyon ko sirf ujagar hee nahi karna hoga, reform karne ke liye kuchh karna bhi hoga aapko. Kya aap sirf ujaagar hee karte rahenge ya apni ichha shakti aur saahas ka pradarshan kar bahar nikal kar reform bhi karenge?

Mera ek prashan ka uttar abhi tak aap se ya iss site ke kisi aur sadasya se nahi aaya:

Agar Bhartiya filmon mein Hindu dharm ka mazak udaana budhijeevita ya khuli soch ka pradarshan hae toh yeh budhijeevita aur khuli soch kahan chali jaati hae jab Islam, Chritistianity ya Sikhism ki baari aati hae. Isse agar aap HYPOCRISY aur DOUBLE STANDARDS nahi kehna pasand karenge toh kya kehna pasand karenge?

Bhaisahab, mai yahan per Hindu dharam ki burayi karne nahi aaya hoon, balki Hindu dharam ko aur accha banane par charcha kar raha hoon. Vastaav mei Hindu dharam mahan hai aur isme koi do raaye nahi hai, parantu humme isme jo kuritiyan hai unhe door karna chahiye. Jo log is dharam ka chola audhkar apni dukaandaari chala rahe hain unko humme ujagar karna hoga taaki garib aur kissan log unka shikar na hoon.
 
Bhai, who is putting a gun to your head to give dakshina??

It is your choice whether you want to give it or not. Without doubt, even I disagree with this practice of giving dakshina to brahmins for every other thing as a matter of their right. They deserve dakshina only to the extent that they deserve it for the work/efforts put in by them. The origins of this practice lie in doing charity work for the poor and earlier the brahmins were relatively a poor lot with relatively little landholdings.

Earlier they were only engaged in Pooja path, but now in the modern times, like any other caste they are almost into any other vocation - defence, civil services, sports, etc. So, their right to dakshina or charity has also considerably diminished. Instead of brahmins, you can give dakshina or charity to the poor people on the streets, cows, stray animals, etc. Who stops you from doing that????

If being an educated person you still feel insecure, there has to be some problem with your education which is a guarantee and security against being taken for a ride.

Jats/Hindus have suffered more under brahminical customs than due to Muslims?????

This statement coming from the descendant of a race which has been subjected to around a thousand years of slavery by the Mughals. I am shocked and astonished. You are insulting Jat forefathers/ancestors who were butchered, raped, forced to convert or pay jiziya.

Ask this question to the Hindu girls in Pakistan who as Hindus are soft/easy targets and are abducted, raped, converted.

Ask this question to Hindu men and women in Pakistan/Bangladesh who as Hindus are soft/easy targets and killed for blasphemy on false charges.

Give an option to the Yazidis and the Christians in Iraq and Syria whether they would like to live according to Brahminical customs or under the Islamic rule where:

*females are sold in the slave market like commodities.
*girls as young as 6-7 years taken as brides by the ISIS animals.
*whole families are butchered in the name of Islam.

Watching or not watching the movie is your right as a citizen of this country which I respect. At the same time, I also respect the right of citizens who protest against their religious beliefs being ridiculed/hurt.
Bhai, who is putting a gun to your head to give dakshina??

It is your choice whether you want to give it or not. Without doubt, even I disagree with this practice of giving dakshina to brahmins for every other thing as a matter of their right. They deserve dakshina only to the extent that they deserve it for the work/efforts put in by them. The origins of this practice lie in doing charity work for the poor and earlier the brahmins were relatively a poor lot with relatively little landholdings.

Earlier they were only engaged in Pooja path, but now in the modern times, like any other caste they are almost into any other vocation - defence, civil services, sports, etc. So, their right to dakshina or charity has also considerably diminished. Instead of brahmins, you can give dakshina or charity to the poor people on the streets, cows, stray animals, etc. Who stops you from doing that????

If being an educated person you still feel insecure, there has to be some problem with your education which is a guarantee and security against being taken for a ride.

Jats/Hindus have suffered more under brahminical customs than due to Muslims?????

This statement coming from the descendant of a race which has been subjected to around a thousand years of slavery by the Mughals. I am shocked and astonished. You are insulting Jat forefathers/ancestors who were butchered, raped, forced to convert or pay jiziya.

Ask this question to the Hindu girls in Pakistan who as Hindus are soft/easy targets and are abducted, raped, converted.

Ask this question to Hindu men and women in Pakistan/Bangladesh who as Hindus are soft/easy targets and killed for blasphemy on false charges.

Give an option to the Yazidis and the Christians in Iraq and Syria whether they would like to live according to Brahminical customs or under the Islamic rule where:

*females are sold in the slave market like commodities.
*girls as young as 6-7 years taken as brides by the ISIS animals.
*whole families are butchered in the name of Islam.

Watching or not watching the movie is your right as a citizen of this country which I respect. At the same time, I also respect the right of citizens who protest against their religious beliefs being ridiculed/hurt.

Dear Abhik,

From all your posts it looks like you are BJP member first and Jat etc later, please consider the following without saffron glasses

1. Please try to get the point. During Lok Sabha elections country was divided into Hindus and muslims, during Haryana elections the tone changed to Jats vs Non Jats.

2. The Mughals used to believe that in India the only people who will fight back will be Jats and they were fearful of Jats. While Jats were fighting the Mughals your beloved Kings were lined up in front of mughals to forge matrimonial alliances.
Those Hindu kings with the blessings of Brahmins fought with Mughals against Jats and butchered ,raped Jats !
3. The whole point is if extremists of one religion are bad there are bad elements amongst Hindus as well.

when they can't tackle Mughals they remember that Jats are also Hindus so make them fight each other!

4. Have you ever read any of Premchand's books- the stories where a poor farmer is forced to sell his Hal - Bal for shradth!

5.While fighting a Mughal you die once in battle field but before independence these soodkhor mahajans with Brahmins used to kill Jats and their families everyday by entering in vicious cycle of debt , enslaving all Jats , while the lazy Hindu kings will make sure they recover taxes from Jats and they used to butcher and rape Jats as well.

6. The jat Sikhs rejected Brahminical customs and were able to establish an empire and distinct identity.
 
फ़िल्म में एक पाकिस्तानी लड़के के प्रति अचानक सहानुभूति दर्शाने की बात का मतलब ही नहीं बल्कि डायरेक्टली कहा गया है मुसलमान अच्छे हैं हम भी कहते हैं अच्छे हैं लेकिन क्या ये बातें वास्तव में आजकल के आंखों देखी पर भी खरी उतरती हैं ? जैसे पाकिस्तान की बिश्वभर में निंदनीय कार्य, ISIS की खौफनाक इरादे, पाक में बैठे आतंकी संगठन और बम धामाकों में मुस्लिमों के नाम और फोटो उजागर होना या मुस्लिम बहुसंख्यक देशों में ? जाहिर सी बात है नहीं l
 
फ़िल्म में एक पाकिस्तानी लड़के के प्रति अचानक सहानुभूति दर्शाने की बात का मतलब ही नहीं बल्कि डायरेक्टली कहा गया है मुसलमान अच्छे हैं हम भी कहते हैं अच्छे हैं लेकिन क्या ये बातें वास्तव में आजकल के आंखों देखी पर भी खरी उतरती हैं ? जैसे पाकिस्तान की बिश्वभर में निंदनीय कार्य, ISIS की खौफनाक इरादे, पाक में बैठे आतंकी संगठन और बम धामाकों में मुस्लिमों के नाम और फोटो उजागर होना या मुस्लिम बहुसंख्यक देशों में ? जाहिर सी बात है नहीं l

Rajpalji,
I agree thatpart was full of crap and was just directed to sell the movie in pakistan. I found the movie was just average but the controversy helped to sell the movie the first part was good but the second part with Pakistani boy was total crap.
 
My reply in blue:

Dear Abhik,

From all your posts it looks like you are BJP member first and Jat etc later, please consider the following without saffron glasses

My being a BJP member or not is highly immaterial to the topic of the discussion. It is not even remotely related to the topic. By the same logic, even I can say that you seem to be a Congress member more!! But I would prefer not to get into a tu-tu mein-mein and would like to stick to the topic as closely as possible.

1. Please try to get the point. During Lok Sabha elections country was divided into Hindus and muslims, during Haryana elections the tone changed to Jats vs Non Jats.

You are correct on that. This Jat Vs. Non-Jat is the result of this unnecessary confrontation, US Vs. THEM approach that a few brothers including you follow. And this for political gains was exploited by other castes as well. None of the Jat great leaders like Ch. Charan Singh or Jan Nayak Ch. Devi Lal pitched Jats against others. They were mass leaders. But I am dismayed at this Jat Vs. Non- Jat pitching by a few Jats which has further isolated Jats and the result of which we have already seen in the Haryana assembly elections. That is the reason I talk of building bridges instead of the confrontation approach. Phir bhi agar jabardasti Sir-Phudai karni hae baki castes ke saath toh karo. Kaun rok sakta hae. The entire Jat community would be further isolated thereby doing it harm rather than any gain/benefits being accrued.

2. The Mughals used to believe that in India the only people who will fight back will be Jats and they were fearful of Jats. While Jats were fighting the Mughals your beloved Kings were lined up in front of mughals to forge matrimonial alliances.
Those Hindu kings with the blessings of Brahmins fought with Mughals against Jats and butchered ,raped Jats !

Mughals were afraid of Jats??? I guess a new history book has been written by a historian which you have recently read. My beloved Kings??? To set the record straight, all Hindu kings including Maharaja Suraj Mal (Yes he is loved by all Jats including me), Marathas, Raja of Mysore, Sikhs, etc. fought their own individual battles against the mughals and because of THEY Vs. US, WE ARE BETTER/HIGHER approach lost. You are contradicting yourself - On the one hand you say that Mughals feared Jats and on the other hand you say that they raped and butchered Jats. This is what happens when you try to twist history to your liking.


3. The whole point is if extremists of one religion are bad there are bad elements amongst Hindus as well.

when they can't tackle Mughals they remember that Jats are also Hindus so make them fight each other!

Jats are a warrior race and they can never see injustice being done to anybody. It seems in your hatred for Non-Jat Hindus, you believe Mughals were Jat well wishers and natural allies.

Yes there are bad elements in every other religion including Hinduism. But are Hindus responsible for the terrorist attacks in Syria, Iraq, Chechenya, US (twin tower), UK, France, Indonesia, Philippines, Nigeria, etc?????



4. Have you ever read any of Premchand's books- the stories where a poor farmer is forced to sell his Hal - Bal for shradth!

I am not sure what you have read or not. It is true that poor illiterate farmers were exploited by the baniyas irrespective of caste (Jats or non-Jats). If you want to take revenge today from the descendants of the baniyas, nobody can stop you. Maybe now we will see lone wolf attacks on the baniyas!!

5.While fighting a Mughal you die once in battle field but before independence these soodkhor mahajans with Brahmins used to kill Jats and their families everyday by entering in vicious cycle of debt , enslaving all Jats , while the lazy Hindu kings will make sure they recover taxes from Jats and they used to butcher and rape Jats as well.

Why are you singling out Jats as victims??? All the poor illiterate farmers were exploited by the sahukars irrespective of caste. Taxes were levied by the Hindu Kings on all subjects whether Jats or non-Jats. No special tax was put on Jats only like the Jiziya levied on Hindus. It seems now you are trying to refine history and making it Jat-centric. The Hindu kings that you are pointing fingers at also included Jat kings. So, in effect, you are pointing a finger at yourself.


6. The jat Sikhs rejected Brahminical customs and were able to establish an empire and distinct identity.

Even Hindu Jats established their kingdoms. Have you heard of Maharaja Suraj Mal and Raja Nahar Singh???

You have still not answered my question: Does Guru Granth Sahib grant any special status/position to Jats??
 
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My reply in blue:

Dear Brother,
It is futile to argue with you as it seems your political survival depends on praising every action of BJP, You will never agree that anyone in BJP can ever do any wrong. Good luck in your political career, but take my word they will never make you CM if you are born as Jat:redface:
 
Brother

If criticizing, abusing and cursing Hinduism were a solution, I would have joined you in it with fervor. but believe me you, the days of direct confrontation are gone in civil societies. It is more of a mind game and you can compete and win by beating others in the mind games.

Open confrontation will only further isolate our community in the times to come with no tangible return coming out of it.

As far as BJP is concerned, I support its policies on nationalism and Hindu interests and my support for it continues till the time it continues on that path. At the same time, I would advise you to stay away from the divisive Khangress party which for over 60 years has continued with divide and rule policy of the British and is still dividing people on various lines - caste, religion, region, language, etc.

Though from your posts, you seem to be a die-hard Congressie, as far as my becoming a CM is concerned, had I harboured those ambitions, I would have joined the Khangress because it is much easier in Khangress to become a minister by licking the boots of the goras who still rule over it.

Dear Brother,
It is futile to argue with you as it seems your political survival depends on praising every action of BJP, You will never agree that anyone in BJP can ever do any wrong. Good luck in your political career, but take my word they will never make you CM if you are born as Jat:redface:
 
Watched the PK night show with pk, enjoyed the movie. it is like OMG .. .. ..I did not find any objectionable about religion, par Pakhand aur pakandandi thekedaron par chot kee hai..... paisaa basool at weekend..
 
Amit bhai, agar aap sahi mein Hindu dharm ko reform karna chahte hain toh Kuritiyon ko sirf ujagar hee nahi karna hoga, reform karne ke liye kuchh karna bhi hoga aapko. Kya aap sirf ujaagar hee karte rahenge ya apni ichha shakti aur saahas ka pradarshan kar bahar nikal kar reform bhi karenge?

Mera ek prashan ka uttar abhi tak aap se ya iss site ke kisi aur sadasya se nahi aaya:

Agar Bhartiya filmon mein Hindu dharm ka mazak udaana budhijeevita ya khuli soch ka pradarshan hae toh yeh budhijeevita aur khuli soch kahan chali jaati hae jab Islam, Chritistianity ya Sikhism ki baari aati hae. Isse agar aap HYPOCRISY aur DOUBLE STANDARDS nahi kehna pasand karenge toh kya kehna pasand karenge?

Abhik Bhai, there was a Pakistani Movie, " Khuda ke liye" That generated lots of Controversy! Many Muslim organisations raised their voices against that movie!

Anyway, Hooladbaji against Khuda ke liye was bad and now it is bad against PK as well!
I have just finished watching PK and found not a single sentence or word against Hinduism!
May be, I missed something! Could you please pin point to me about the objectionable language, words or sentences in the movie PK?
I believe, the opposition to Movie PK is unnecessary!

Cheers!
 
Sateypal bhai, No matter what I pinpoint in the movie, you have already made up your mind that there is no sentence or word in the movie PK against Hinduism.

Just like you have your right to enjoy a particular thing, others have the right to protest in case it goes against the core belief/tenets of their faith. But in this case, what is happening is that your enjoyment is coming at the expense of others' belief.

Well, all I can say to you is keep enjoying because secularism in India is Only a one-way street. Hindus will always have to pay the price - Now when the country is supposedly secular and LATER ON as well when the country will become Islamic. It's just History being repeated!!



Abhik Bhai, there was a Pakistani Movie, " Khuda ke liye" That generated lots of Controversy! Many Muslim organisations raised their voices against that movie!

Anyway, Hooladbaji against Khuda ke liye was bad and now it is bad against PK as well!
I have just finished watching PK and found not a single sentence or word against Hinduism!
May be, I missed something! Could you please pin point to me about the objectionable language, words or sentences in the movie PK?
I believe, the opposition to Movie PK is unnecessary!

Cheers!
 
Government deserves praise for not buckling under pressure of lunatic fringe groups that were on a vandalizing streak demanding ban the movie.
 
L. K. Advani, Neeta Advani, Amitabh Bachhan and one more name was mentioned in titling of the movie as special thanks/ acknowledgement.
 
असल मे फिल्म पीके का विरोध दिन पर दिन ब दिन जितना तेज हुआ, फिल्म उतनी ही तेजी से कमाई के सारे रेकॉर्ड भी तोड़ती गई है। फिल्म ने इस वीकेंड पर 25 करोड़ की कमाई करने के साथ ही 300 करोड़ का आंकड़ा पार कर लिया। अब 300 करोड़ के क्लब में भी पहली एंट्री आमिर की हो गई है। हिरानी एंड कम्पनी को सच मे इन विरोध करने बालो का शुक्र् गुजार होना चाहिये...लगता है कि यह सब "उग्र विरोध" व/स "विकास अथवा आलोचना" ( "तोगडिया" व/स "मोदी अथवा सरकार" ) की सोच / विचारधारा का प्रतिबिम्ब जैसा है...
 
Agar Bhartiya filmon mein Hindu dharm ka mazak udaana budhijeevita ya khuli soch ka pradarshan hae toh yeh budhijeevita aur khuli soch kahan chali jaati hae jab Islam, Chritistianity ya Sikhism ki baari aati hae. Isse agar aap HYPOCRISY aur DOUBLE STANDARDS nahi kehna pasand karenge toh kya kehna pasand karenge?

Let me try to answer:

1) Hinduism is the core because over 80% of Indian population is Hindu, business wise it makes sense

2) Jitna pakhand hindu dharm main utna shayad kaheen nahi, atleast in India. Pay more get VIP darshan, baba, pande, chadave... Sikhism has this to minimum, Islam in India has this on lower scale comparatively and Christianity has other problems than this

3) All this movies touch up on other religions bad aspects too, like OMG and PK itself- you ignore that


Now coming on to why movies don't hit other religions.

Christianity: Did you see Da Vinci Code? That movie hits Christianity because most of the people it targeted as audience were from that religion. There were protests on that too but what happened? Freedom prevailed. Although a work of fiction but movie has strong points to shake foundations.

Islam: A movie like Khuda ke lie not only was made in a Islamic state like Pakistan but also did good business. It took on the very task Pak was formed on.

All these movies I have taken names of, including PK and OMG were made to bring out true teachings of religions and not what politicians and Babas make out of it. Let us learn if we can, or ignore if you don't want to.
 
दोस्तो,

काफ़ी दिनो से पीके को लेकर बहस छिड़ी हुई है| मैने यह मूवी रिलीज़ होने के पहले हफ्ते में ही देख ली थी| तब मुझे इस बात का अनुमान नही था क़ि आगे चलकर यह विवादो में घिर जाएगी| हालाँकि इस पिक्चर में ऐसा कुछ नही है जिस पर इतना व्यापक विरोध प्रदर्शन किया जाए|

मुझे जो एक बात जो इस पिक्चर में काफ़ी अखरी वो था मूर्ति पूजा का मज़ाक बनाना| वैसे में खुद आर्यसमाजी विचारधारा से प्रभावित हूँ परन्तु फिर भी में दूसरो की आस्था का उपहास करने का पक्षधर नही हूँ| मैने अपनी कुछ पूर्ववर्ती पोस्टो में भी इस बात का उल्लेख किया है कि आस्था तर्क का विषय नही है|

जहाँ बात व्यक्तिगत आस्था की हो वहाँ आप उसे तर्को द्वारा ग़लत सिद्ध नही कर सकते| परन्तु अगर विषय अंधविश्वास का हो तो उसका पुरज़ोर विरोध जायज़ है|
जहाँ तक ढोंगी स्वयंभू बाबओ का प्रश्न है वहाँ तक तो पिक्चर में सही कटाक्ष किए गये| लेकिन जिस प्रकार हिंदू धर्म में मूर्ति पूजा की खिल्ली उड़ाई गयी वह गले से नीचे नही उतरता|

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न देवा दण्डमादाय रक्षन्ति पशुपालवत् ।
यं तु रक्षितुमिच्छन्ति बुद्ध्या संविभजन्ति तम् ॥
विदुरनीति ३-४०

The Gods don't protect like a shepherd with stick.
Whom they want to protect, they give them intelligence.

मूर्तिपूजा का एक मनोवैज्ञानिक पक्ष भी है| यह हमें एक ऐसी अनुभूति देता है जैसे हम ईश्वर से संवाद कर रहे हो| यह हमें खुद पर विश्वास करने का सामर्थ्य प्रदान करता है| मैने लोगो को देखा है कि कैसे वो मंदिरो के दर्शन के बाद आशान्वित हो जाते है कि अब उनके कार्य सिद्ध हो जाएँगे| यह विश्वास ही उन्हे उनके कार्यो में सफलता प्रदान करता है| ना कि मंदिर मे रखी मूर्ति|

एक और उदाहरण दे देता हूँ सचिन तेंदुलकर और सुनील गावस्कर का| दोनो धुरंधर, श्री सत्य साई के भक्त रहे है| हालाँकि श्री सत्य साई के चमत्कारो का भंडाफोड़ एक बार बीबीसी ने किया था| आज भी पुट्टपर्थी, आंध्रप्रदेश में प्रशांति निलयम नामक ट्रस्ट उनके मरणोपरांत भी कार्यरत है| जब सत्य साई बाबा का निधन २४ अप्रैल, २०११ को हुआ तो सचिन ने अपना जन्मदिन नही मनाया था|
सचिन ने एक बार कहा था कि सत्य साई के आशीर्वाद से ही वर्ल्ड कप जीतना संभव हुआ| क्या सचिन जैसा सफल और महान खिलाड़ी भी इन चीज़ो पर यकीन कर सकता है| मेरा उत्तर है हाँ| यह हमारे अंतर्मन का विश्वास होता है जो हमें मंदिर में भगवान के सान्निध्य में जाकर मिलता है| यही अनुभूति हमें कुछ अध्यात्मिक गुरुओ के पास जाने पर होती है|

आस्था और तर्क दोनो साथ साथ नही चल सकते| फिल्म निर्माता / लेखक को यह बात समझनी चाहिए थी| बेहतर होता अगर यह फिल्म सभी धर्मो की कुरीतियों पर केंद्रित होती| यह हिंदू धर्म की महानता है क़ि उसने समय समय पर समाज में होने वाले परिवर्तनो को अंगीकार किया है| तभी तो यह हज़ारो वर्षो से शाश्वत बना हुआ है| मुझे पूर्ण विश्वास है क़ि यह शाश्वत जीवन शैली आने वाले समय में भी मानवता की मार्गदर्शक बनी रहेगी|
 
Ayush bhai, very well explained.

I could not stop myself from complimenting you on your language skills. I am sure your linguistic skills must be envy of many.

Coming to the topic of this thread as you rightly and succinctly put that it is my personal choice when it comes to following the religious rituals/customs. I may or may not do idol worship. How is it any third person's prerogative/right to point a finger towards it when it is not affecting/hurting that person.

Tomorrow they might interfere in what I have for my meals or how I address my friends and family or how I celebrate my festivals. When religion is something so personal to every one, why do a few others have problem with that?? Even the constitution gives a person the right to practice one's religion without interference from any other.

I don't question why do some people kneel down or face a particular direction while praying. I don't question why do some people keep beards or wear long flowing clothes head to toe. I don't question why do people of a faith keep daggers in today's times when we are living in a relatively civilized and safe society. THEN WHY DO OTHERS HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN I WORSHIP THE IDOL OF GOD IN WHOM I HAVE FAITH?????
दोस्तो,

काफ़ी दिनो से पीके को लेकर बहस छिड़ी हुई है| मैने यह मूवी रिलीज़ होने के पहले हफ्ते में ही देख ली थी| तब मुझे इस बात का अनुमान नही था क़ि आगे चलकर यह विवादो में घिर जाएगी| हालाँकि इस पिक्चर में ऐसा कुछ नही है जिस पर इतना व्यापक विरोध प्रदर्शन किया जाए|

मुझे जो एक बात जो इस पिक्चर में काफ़ी अखरी वो था मूर्ति पूजा का मज़ाक बनाना| वैसे में खुद आर्यसमाजी विचारधारा से प्रभावित हूँ परन्तु फिर भी में दूसरो की आस्था का उपहास करने का पक्षधर नही हूँ| मैने अपनी कुछ पूर्ववर्ती पोस्टो में भी इस बात का उल्लेख किया है कि आस्था तर्क का विषय नही है|

जहाँ बात व्यक्तिगत आस्था की हो वहाँ आप उसे तर्को द्वारा ग़लत सिद्ध नही कर सकते| परन्तु अगर विषय अंधविश्वास का हो तो उसका पुरज़ोर विरोध जायज़ है|
जहाँ तक ढोंगी स्वयंभू बाबओ का प्रश्न है वहाँ तक तो पिक्चर में सही कटाक्ष किए गये| लेकिन जिस प्रकार हिंदू धर्म में मूर्ति पूजा की खिल्ली उड़ाई गयी वह गले से नीचे नही उतरता|

छोटा सा उदाहरण देता हूँ| 2013 में हुई उत्तराखंड त्रासदी में केदारनाथ मंदिर का बच जाना अपने आप में काफ़ी कुछ कह जाता है| कुछ लोग सोमनाथ मंदिर का उदाहरण भी देते है कि कैसे ब्राहमन भगवान भरोसे बैठकर सब कुछ लुटवा बैठे| भगवान भी कर्मयोगियो की मदद करते है ना कि अकर्मण्य लोगो की| महाभारत में विदुर ने उद्धत किया है:

न देवा दण्डमादाय रक्षन्ति पशुपालवत् ।
यं तु रक्षितुमिच्छन्ति बुद्ध्या संविभजन्ति तम् ॥
विदुरनीति ३-४०

The Gods don't protect like a shepherd with stick.
Whom they want to protect, they give them intelligence.

मूर्तिपूजा का एक मनोवैज्ञानिक पक्ष भी है| यह हमें एक ऐसी अनुभूति देता है जैसे हम ईश्वर से संवाद कर रहे हो| यह हमें खुद पर विश्वास करने का सामर्थ्य प्रदान करता है| मैने लोगो को देखा है कि कैसे वो मंदिरो के दर्शन के बाद आशान्वित हो जाते है कि अब उनके कार्य सिद्ध हो जाएँगे| यह विश्वास ही उन्हे उनके कार्यो में सफलता प्रदान करता है| ना कि मंदिर मे रखी मूर्ति|

एक और उदाहरण दे देता हूँ सचिन तेंदुलकर और सुनील गावस्कर का| दोनो धुरंधर, श्री सत्य साई के भक्त रहे है| हालाँकि श्री सत्य साई के चमत्कारो का भंडाफोड़ एक बार बीबीसी ने किया था| आज भी पुट्टपर्थी, आंध्रप्रदेश में प्रशांति निलयम नामक ट्रस्ट उनके मरणोपरांत भी कार्यरत है| जब सत्य साई बाबा का निधन २४ अप्रैल, २०११ को हुआ तो सचिन ने अपना जन्मदिन नही मनाया था|
सचिन ने एक बार कहा था कि सत्य साई के आशीर्वाद से ही वर्ल्ड कप जीतना संभव हुआ| क्या सचिन जैसा सफल और महान खिलाड़ी भी इन चीज़ो पर यकीन कर सकता है| मेरा उत्तर है हाँ| यह हमारे अंतर्मन का विश्वास होता है जो हमें मंदिर में भगवान के सान्निध्य में जाकर मिलता है| यही अनुभूति हमें कुछ अध्यात्मिक गुरुओ के पास जाने पर होती है|

आस्था और तर्क दोनो साथ साथ नही चल सकते| फिल्म निर्माता / लेखक को यह बात समझनी चाहिए थी| बेहतर होता अगर यह फिल्म सभी धर्मो की कुरीतियों पर केंद्रित होती| यह हिंदू धर्म की महानता है क़ि उसने समय समय पर समाज में होने वाले परिवर्तनो को अंगीकार किया है| तभी तो यह हज़ारो वर्षो से शाश्वत बना हुआ है| मुझे पूर्ण विश्वास है क़ि यह शाश्वत जीवन शैली आने वाले समय में भी मानवता की मार्गदर्शक बनी रहेगी|
 

सचिन ने एक बार कहा था कि सत्य साई के आशीर्वाद से ही वर्ल्ड कप जीतना संभव हुआ| क्या सचिन जैसा सफल और महान खिलाड़ी भी इन चीज़ो पर यकीन कर सकता है| मेरा उत्तर है हाँ| यह हमारे अंतर्मन का विश्वास होता है जो हमें मंदिर में भगवान के सान्निध्य में जाकर मिलता है| यही अनुभूति हमें कुछ अध्यात्मिक गुरुओ के पास जाने पर होती है| |

सचिन जी एक महान खिलाड़ी है, लेकिन वो महान दार्शनिक, पथ प्रदर्शक, और विचारक भी है इसमें मुझे संदेह है.
हम अगर क्रिकेट सिखना चाहते है तो हमें सचिन के पास जाना चाहिए, लेकिन अगर हमें भगवान् और विश्वास के बारे में जानना हो तो हमें सचिन के पास नहीं जाना चाहिए.
सचिन एक अच्छे व्यक्ति भी है, जैसे शराब के advt. नहीं करना, लोगो के झगड़े में नहीं उलझाना.
लेकिन वो अपनी बायोग्राफी में क्रिकेट में हुए घोटालो को छिपा गए.. तो एक अच्छे राजनीतिज्ञ भी है. वैसे राज्य सभा में ज्यादा कुछ कहा नहीं, तो वो जनता के एक अच्छे लीडर भी नहीं है !!

तो आखिर बात क्या है !!

कोई भी व्यक्ति हर क्षेत्र में महान नहीं हो सकता, और इसी वजह से हम अलग अलग सब्जेक्ट्स की अलग अलग किताबे पढ़ते है !!

इसलिए हमने लोकतंत्र चुना है, सभी से सुनो, सभी की सुनो, (मन की भी) मानो मिलिझुली.......
 
सचिन जी एक महान खिलाड़ी है, लेकिन वो महान दार्शनिक, पथ प्रदर्शक, और विचारक भी है इसमें मुझे संदेह है.
हम अगर क्रिकेट सिखना चाहते है तो हमें सचिन के पास जाना चाहिए, लेकिन अगर हमें भगवान् और विश्वास के बारे में जानना हो तो हमें सचिन के पास नहीं जाना चाहिए.
सचिन एक अच्छे व्यक्ति भी है, जैसे शराब के advt. नहीं करना, लोगो के झगड़े में नहीं उलझाना.
लेकिन वो अपनी बायोग्राफी में क्रिकेट में हुए घोटालो को छिपा गए.. तो एक अच्छे राजनीतिज्ञ भी है. वैसे राज्य सभा में ज्यादा कुछ कहा नहीं, तो वो जनता के एक अच्छे लीडर भी नहीं है !!

तो आखिर बात क्या है !!

कोई भी व्यक्ति हर क्षेत्र में महान नहीं हो सकता, और इसी वजह से हम अलग अलग सब्जेक्ट्स की अलग अलग किताबे पढ़ते है !!

इसलिए हमने लोकतंत्र चुना है, सभी से सुनो, सभी की सुनो, (मन की भी) मानो मिलिझुली.......

शिवम जी,

मेरा यहाँ सचिन का उदाहरण देने का उद्देश्य यह स्पष्ट करना था क़ि किसी व्यक्ति क़ी व्यक्तिगत आस्था के आधार पर हम उसका आकलन नहीं कर सकते| साथ ही सफलता आपकी आस्था पर निर्भर नहीं होती अपितु आपको अपनी क्षमताओ पर विश्वास कितना दृढ है इस बात पर निर्भर करती है|

मैं सदैव यह कहता हूँ क़ि किसी व्यक्ति के व्यक्तित्व का विश्लेषण आप उसकी धार्मिक आस्थाओ के आधार पर मत करिये| सचिन ने जो कुछ भी अपने जीवन में अर्जित किया है वह उनका खेल के क्षेत्र में योगदान के कारण है| यह उनकी नैसर्गिक प्रतिभा और कठिन परिश्रम के परिणामस्वरूप है|

अगर वह हर क्षेत्र में महान बन जायेंगे तो क्या हम उन्हें भगवान नहीं बना देंगे| यही तो एक मनुष्य और ईश्वर का अंतर है| जब हम इस अंतर को भूल जाते है तब एक जीवित मनुष्य को भी भगवान क़ि उपाधि से अलंकृत कर देते है|

मेरा ध्येय मात्र अपने जाट भाइयो को यह संदेश देना है क़ि आप किसी की व्यक्तिगत धार्मिक आस्थाओ के आधार पर उस व्यक्ति के बारे में गलत धारणाये ना बनाये|
उचित होगा यदि हम इसे समझे तभी एक दूसरे क़ि स्वीकार्यता बढ़ेगी| जैसा कि मैंने यहाँ एक दूसरे को धार्मिक आस्थाओ के आधार पर तिरस्कृत करते हुए देखा है|
इसलिए पहले धर्म और जाट एकता का ध्रुवीकरण बंद हो तभी हमें कुछ सार्थक परिणाम मिल सकते है|
 
Boycott Pk ? for showing imaginary Lord Shiva worshiped by millions in a bad light, showing idol worshiping practiced by many as most stupid act of mankind, pasting pictures of other dieties as absconders. No these reasons are not enough to protest for a film.

On the contrary, publishing just a cartoon of Mohammad against the worldwide protest of a movie "innocence of muslims" could result in this.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europ...attacked-paris-gunmen-201517111836139681.html

Are we not living in a world where we can say that Shiva , Ganesha, Hanuman etc are imaginary gods whom fools worship but Allah, Jesus, Mohammad etc are real ones. Idol worshiping is stupid but going to Hajj , throwing stones on Shaitaan not. Pouring milk is a waste but sacrificing millions of animals in the name of god is not.

I hope some sense prevails to western countries as well as India before more people lose their lives because of this fanaticism.
 
Ab kahan hain neo-liberals jo kah rahe the ki PK me creativity hai, art hai, freedom of expression hai.
Ab jao, in killers ko padhao, sikhao inko ki cartoons banana bhi art hai, freedom of expression hai, creativity hai.
 
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