Jat, Judaism and Middle East

Middle East and its surrounding areas had most ancient civilizations in the world.

Judaism preceded Islam and Christianity.

So, a major question arises, was Judaism wide spread before Islam and Christianity? Were the followers of Islam and Christianity in Middle East, the same people, who earlier followed Judaism or any other faith in that region?

It seems so, there is mention of King Solomon, King David and the archaeological evidences found with these ancient kings still exists and has been archaeologically verified.
 
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hariyaksh said:
Judaism came first in Middle East but Islam inspired to most of them.
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All the three religions have almost same things and lot in common as the roots are from Judaism, so i do not know, who inspired what?

They all are abrahmic, aabrahmic religions, although there are lot of other faiths and ways of life in-terms of religious thought process but Christianity and Islam seem be liked by a majority people in the world.
 
Judaism and middle east

How not to lose history of any land? History, is preserved in form of archaeological and linguistic evidences.

In middle east the only stable, scientifically educated local support is in form of Judaism or Judaic people. Historical existence of Judaic people is present in middle east. This is the greatest support that middle east has, to have a stable region and save its ancient history.
 
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Jats and Judaic religion

Based on the fact that Non Semitic languages seem to be coming from Semitic languages and the presence of "Hooda" gotra in "Jat people", it is possible that migration of "Jats" from different parts of the world might be much older than researched upon. It is also possible that the presence of "Judic" way of life or "Judic" philosophy might be much older than few thousand years BC.

The same tribes and people living in middle east who later adopted different religions like Islam and Christianity could be from Hebrew language group or some common semantic language group of ancient times.

While the word "Hooda" or "Jahoodi", might have very ancient origins.
 
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Jats,Judaism, Scythians,Jews

Lot of "Jat" family names are found throughout Indo European world and in middle east. Then there is reference of "Jats" being of Scythian origins, which seem to be true.

If i remember correctly "Sach" or "Sachs" is a Judaic family name. "Sach" or "Sachs" itself means people of "Scythian origin". Jats having a family name "Hooda" is a direct connection to Judaic people or Jahoodi people.

Then many family names of "Jat" people also connect with pre Sanskrit origin, which indicates that origin of the tribe of people called "Jats" is connect with older Indo European roots and most probably to proto Indo European roots which are much older than Sanskrit roots.
 
maddhan1979 said:
Lot of "Jat" family names are found throughout Indo European world and in middle east. Then there is reference of "Jats" being of Scythian origins, which seem to be true.

If i remember correctly "Sach" or "Sachs" is a Judaic family name. "Sach" or "Sachs" itself means people of "Scythian origin". Jats having a family name "Hooda" is a direct connection to Judaic people or Jahoodi people.

Then many family names of "Jat" people also connect with pre Sanskrit origin, which indicates that origin of the tribe of people called "Jats" is connect with older Indo European roots and most probably to proto Indo European roots which are much older than Sanskrit roots.
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I think whole of jews versus non-news lies Indo-european language and semitic language...and you mixed well both of them!!........By the way how do you trace the history of a certain race or class of people........??
 
One may agree or not with what he tries to convey but one cannot overlook zeal and effort of Madhan Sahib to trace the origin of the Jats. It is appreciable as he has started hundreds of threads on the topic. But without reaching some workable thesis he leaves the topic hanging in the air and then after a short gap starts anew from the beginning.

It would be appreciated if the similar topics of various threads are taken by him for discussion under one common thread heading so that the participants and readers could be properly informed what he so laboriously has been trying to convey so far !
 
Besides that we must not forget there were Roman/ European settlements and lot of trade was done through countries located at the lower areas of Europe. Borders does not mean these early settlers, traders, etc. settled, traded or lived within the bordered area as we know through history today. It is also possible that these people were travelling and trading far beyond the so stated borders of ancient times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Syria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_the_Roman_Empire
 
maddhan1979 said:
Besides that we must not forget there were Roman/ European settlements and lot of trade was done through countries located at the lower areas of Europe. Borders does not mean these early settlers, traders, etc. settled, traded or lived within the bordered area as we know through history today. It is also possible that these people were travelling and trading far beyond the so stated borders of ancient times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Syria

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_the_Roman_Empire
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It seems(although yet to be archaeologically verified) there was a continuous migration from ancient middle east which included ancient Jews(coming as foreign traders, people fleeing wars), then there is a earlier tribal migration which seems to have happened much earlier from central Asia and ancient China before the "Great wall of China", was constructed. These BC migrations and later phase of migration of Jews as traders and people fleeing wars or people looking for new place to live and work happened due to the life line of ancient trade routes such as "Silk road". These ancient connections seem to go beyond ancient "Judic ", connections and had a continued inflow of people and ideologies from different parts of the world and extended even after "Islam" as a religion came into existence. All this history which has its roots in central Eurasia, ancient China and ancient Middle east and "Judic" people seem to be getting lost in the cultural misrepresentation and archaeological losses in the northern regions of the country.
 
maddhan1979 said:
It seems(although yet to be archaeologically verified) there was a continuous migration from ancient middle east which included ancient Jews(coming as foreign traders, people fleeing wars), then there is a earlier tribal migration which seems to have happened much earlier from central Asia and ancient China before the "Great wall of China", was constructed. These BC migrations and later phase of migration of Jews as traders and people fleeing wars or people looking for new place to live and work happened due to the life line of ancient trade routes such as "Silk road". These ancient connections seem to go beyond ancient "Judic ", connections and had a continued inflow of people and ideologies from different parts of the world and extended even after "Islam" as a religion came into existence. All this history which has its roots in central Eurasia, ancient China and ancient Middle east and "Judic" people seem to be getting lost in the cultural misrepresentation and archaeological losses in the northern regions of the country.
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Jews have been the most cunning, hated and coward people in the history. Jats are not connected with middle east people at all..no linguistic, cultural or racial connection with these pigs.................and scythians had no connection with Jewish people at all.....so dont fuc* the history of jats just for the sake of your naked fantasy!
 
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