A Challenge to Jatland Youth - Time for Action

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$55 billion! Indian IT set to boom

The Indian IT industry will grow to Rs 2,47,000 crore ($55 billion) by the end of calender year 2008 from Rs 87,000 crore in 2003, according to a latest study.

"The Indian IT industry will witness a compound annual growth rate of 23.1 per cent between 2003 and 2008 with exports growing 25.3 per cent and domestic market 18.5 per cent," the study by market research firm IDC said.

In 2003, the Indian IT industry grew 21 per cent at Rs 87,000 crore ($19.5 billion) from Rs 72,000 crore in 2002, and in 2004 growth will be 26 per cent with IteS expected to log 51 per cent growth.

"The higher growth in exports between 2003 and 2008 will be contributed primarily by the business process outsourcing or IT-enabled Services which is expected to grow at a high compound annual growth rate of 36 per cent.

"IT services export is expected to grow at 19 per cent during the same period," Kapil Dev Singh, country manager, IDC (India) said while presenting the study during 'Directions 2005'.

IDC said the domestic market has revived with 17 per cent growth in 2003 after seeing the lowest growth rate of six per cent in 2002 in the last 15 years. "This growth rate has been made possible on the back of strong global economic recovery. The other pluses have been 8.2 per cent GDP growth and rising corporate profits," he said.

The growth in 2003 makes India the fastest growing and fourth largest domestic market in the Asia-Pacific region.

"The growth trend in domestic IT market is going to peak in 2005 at 21 per cent with all three components -- hardware, software and services -- expected to grow at a decent pace," Singh said.

Source: http://us.rediff.com/money/2004/aug/04it.htm?headline=$55~billion!~Indian~IT~set~to~boom
 
Respected Dr. Birbal Singh Jee and All on this thread,
Unconditionally, I agree with u when u say hint upon better utilization of the precious web world. I too have often marked upon its optimal use. We are so lucky to be living in an age where the world exists electronically! And despite being thousands of miles from each other we can greet each other in a webvillage called Jatland.
And an actual village scenario- where the barter system existed. We all have unique things, ideas, qualities, talent, most of all exuberance and energies to actually barter for better of our community, our people and our lives.
Driving down from Delhi to Hisar last weekend after a gap of about 6 years, as I wheeled through the villages that fall on the way...I was aghast...men still sit together beating cards and gurgling their Hookahs all day long!! So much of worthwhile energy, man-hours just rise with the Sun and are washed off by the twilight...if I may say, it pains to see this happen in the region I belong to.
Friends, so when we talk of technology and gizmos and geeks... I would say my genuine concern is that can we make some effort to churn out the energy out of our people, shake them up...I don't know how...I guess, some brainstorming will help. Toying and playing with ideas over and over again will help bring out a ripe form.
Dear All,
I am a communication professional, and look after facets like marketing communication, corporate com.,etc.
With all u techies out there I think u will certainly need some creative input right from conception to delivery of ur ideas.
Regards to u all.
Sabeena
 
I think we are going in a wrong direction ..........before posting any other mail lets read the mail of Dr. Birbal again.........
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"But when I look from the point of view that what could be accomplished through the joint effort of all the talented young people on this site then I feel rather disappointed. There has not been a united effort to pool the talent on the site. I did find few posts where some members have tried to invite others into action but with futility"

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instead of just posting your tech. profile also suggest some good ideas to meet that challenge........
the mail is not about to post ur tec. background.......he already said that there r many good people with strong tech. background.......and great mindset

The idea is How to use that talent ..............?
there r several question in my mind

1) What is the challenge.Clear and concise ........not like this we want to start somthing good/new/for helping somebody/etc but what somthing.
2) What do u exactly mean by joint effort? IS there any plan to open a tech. group with various field. if that so.. personaly feal that its not a good plan,because there r lots of such group already present with people all around the words like linux open source etc. and in our group i think we don't allow people from other community to join that grp.(because of some other reasons.......lets don't discuss that)

3)
4)
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kahin aisa na ho ki ek josh kai saath sabh uthain ......aur ek dhaka khakar gir padein..........


Pls correct me i any one find some thing wrong........

thanks,
Sukhbir
 
Dr. Birbal Ji,

When I read all the posts from various profession, I am odd man out, I do not know whether I can contribute to this group.

I did my Engineering in Fire Protection from Nagpur University. Worked as Fire Engineer in IPCL for 5 years, then worked as Safety Advisor in Saudi Arabia Petrochemicals, and presently working as Safety Engineer in refineries of Kuwait. I have highly recognized safety qualification from USA i.e., Certified Safety Professional (CSP). I am canadian immigrant and will be in Canada next year.

Very good knowledge of International Safety Health and Environmental standards.

Regards,

Rajender
 
Well it s a nice point raised but i think it will surely help us to take a better step forward if we know exactly about with various technologies and domains whose expertise we have over here...

Also i think once that is done.. some one should take a lead role and shuld start inviting ppl for brainstorming sessions.. this can be done in groups since it will not be possible to have it together with all the ppl..

Regards,
Anuj
 
As pointed by Anil I think many people here will not like to share their ideas on a public forum. Also as anil suggested I think we should start a new mailing list or something so that all of us could start throwing ideas at the group and start brainstorming on them.

Sukhbir jee you raised a good point but before we start shairing ideas we have to know about each others skill set that is why Anil asked us to tell about our background.
So far most of people here are IT people so I think most of the discussion willl involve IT. now we are left to find a problem to solve which could be anything. IT/Non-IT. So we need people from other professions as well to tell what challanges they face in their profession and then everyone see if their is a economical implementation to it. Dr Birbal jee did a good job of choosing initial set of people from different background.

I don't think most of people who are sharing ideas here (not so far but will hopefully) are interested in linux like venture. (If someone is interested I am interested in some GNU type project also). But most probably it will be a business venture but I can't say that for everyone.

Anil are you going to create a group and organize the idea exchange process or do you want me to create a yahoo group so that people who are interested could join the group and we could start the discussion?

thanks
Raju
 
When running a corporation, we require people from all diverse fields. For example, whatever we do, we surely will require Sabeena's expertise.

What I am trying to do for start is to get familiar with each others expertise and interest.
Ppl with similar goal can come together and brainstorm their ideas. For example, a set of ppl may be strongly interested in setting up a call center in India, while others in developing the next generation of routers. Some may explore all areas and then decide what to do.
 
Dear DR.Singh:
i am in india right now with an awful internet connection; for people with queries and drive to elicit information about economics can write to me at ratananmol@hotmail.com; i will come up with the optimal strategies to smoothen this enterprise once i get back to usa.
Best for all
anmol.
 
Assuming a grp of members here develop an idea abt a product "JATS=Just Any Techie Stuff".
Now what should be the next step ?
I hear ppl saying do market research to get feedback on ur idea. How exactly do I do this "market research" ?

For getting external funding, we definitely need a document called "business plan". Any one here who can help the "techies" write this document.
 
Anil,

You have good responses so far. May be you take the lead on the American side and Anuj on Indian side to organize some discussions first. You also have advantage of several of responses from Boston area.
 
Some of us have already intiated conversation on this. Will keep u all updated. At any time if any feels like joining in, they are welcome to do so, just drop me a line.
 
Respected Dr. Birbal Singh Jee and All on this thread,
Unconditionally, I agree with u when u say hint upon better utilization of the precious web world. I too have often marked upon its optimal use. We are so lucky to be living in an age where the world exists electronically! And despite being thousands of miles from each other we can greet each other in a webvillage called Jatland.
And an actual village scenario- where the barter system existed. We all have unique things, ideas, qualities, talent, most of all exuberance and energies to actually barter for better of our community, our people and our lives.
Driving down from Delhi to Hisar last weekend after a gap of about 6 years, as I wheeled through the villages that fall on the way...I was aghast...men still sit together beating cards and gurgling their Hookahs all day long!! So much of worthwhile energy, man-hours just rise with the Sun and are washed off by the twilight...if I may say, it pains to see this happen in the region I belong to.
Friends, so when we talk of technology and gizmos and geeks... I would say my genuine concern is that can we make some effort to churn out the energy out of our people, shake them up...I don't know how...I guess, some brainstorming will help. Toying and playing with ideas over and over again will help bring out a ripe form.
Dear All,
I am a communication professional, and look after facets like marketing communication, corporate com.,etc.
With all u techies out there I think u will certainly need some creative input right from conception to delivery of ur ideas.
Regards to u all.
Sabeena
 
To move fwd, i would like to initiate a view from all whats considered "HOT" field today and has a good future. The idea is to get a focus on what industry should we target at.
Based on inputs I have so far, the list includes:
1) Security
2) Voice over everything
3) Wireless (Wi-Fi stuffs)
4) SAN
5) Gaming/Entertainment (audio/video processors and displays)

Any suggestions are welcome.
 
This thread seems to be going well so far. Being in a comfortable job of a tenured prof for too long I may not be able to contribute much to your immense talent but I would like to give you couple of unrelated examples to keep your spirits high.

In 1972 George McGovern, the presidential candidate for the Democratic Party ran a unique campaign. For the first time in history, he succeeded in getting the nomination of the party through a campaign headed mainly by younger activists (his campaign manager, Gary Hart, was only 34 at the time and others were much younger). McGovern was defeated but the youngsters maintained their network and many of them became Senators/Congressman/Congresswoman/Governors and Bill Clinton became the President. I will not be surprised that a few years from now many of the younger people who propelled Howard Dean's campaign to a major force but lost in the end will occupy high offices in USA. So, a well organized effort never goes waste if you keep your network going.

In another example, two of the bright young guys (both Ukranian-Canadians) I knew as my daughter's classmates through high school and medical school had a hobby of playing computer games. They became practicing doctors but converted their video game hobby into one of the most successful video game company (Bioware) in the world. They are still practicing medicine (and one of them is married to a Jat girl) but they employ 70 people in their company and their company is listed as one of the 100 best Canadian companies to work for.

So, one thing I can say for sure that if you pool your talents and keep your network going you will succeed now or soon in the future.
 
Another thing to notice is that the Jatland can boast of the best and talented Jats..Not sure if there is some other network of jats with sucha broad and immensely talented pool.
So if we have to do it.. we have to do it from here...

Regards,
Anuj kadyan
 
anil chaudhary (Aug 09, 2004 10:29 a.m.):
To move fwd, i would like to initiate a view from all whats considered "HOT" field today and has a good future. The idea is to get a focus on what industry should we target at.
Based on inputs I have so far, the list includes:
1) Security
2) Voice over everything
3) Wireless (Wi-Fi stuffs)
4) SAN
5) Gaming/Entertainment (audio/video processors and displays)

Any suggestions are welcome.
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Yes indeed. Also, the carrrier technologies are going to converge in such a way that you will have a single pipe coming into your house carrying voice, data and video. That will require lot of storage at the backend as well as into your house. Which means there will be opportunities for making all these different types of device work well with each other. This also has opportunities in the areas of content management, network management and storage management.

Another area where a breakthrough technology is needed is to make the computer a network computer / thin client. I know some big companies (Orcale) have tried this idea. But I think the reason it didn't succeed was because of the lack of applications. If someone can provide the same set of applications (word processing, spreadsheet, powerpoint) on a network computer then I think this will definitly succeed. So there are opportunities in this area as well. You as a startup or small company don't even have to take it all the way there. Any meaningful step in this direction provides huge opportunities.

I know that making a consumer product is really very difficult and almost impossible for new/small companies. It requires huge technical as well as marketing resources. So for new startups the easiest and safest exit is probably to implement the idea to the extent that it can be demo'd and then approach other companies who might buy you out for your idea.

Thanks.

-ajmer
 
There are a series of thoughts by Rajesh Jain archived at:
http://www.samachar.com/tech/featarchives/archives.html

He has some interesting ideas and analysis.
 
Are Indians really dumb?

Home > Business > Columnists > Guest Column > G V Dasarathi

Are Indians really dumb?

August 10, 2004


'The whole process where people get an idea and put together a team, raise the capital, create a product and mainstream it -- that can only be done in the US. It can't be done sitting in India. The Indian part of the equation is to help these innovative US companies bring their products to the market quicker, cheaper and better, which increases the innovative cycle there. It is a complementarity we need to enhance.'

-- Nandan Nilekani, CEO, Infosys, quoted in The New York Times, March 7, 2004.

More on:
http://us.rediff.com/money/2004/aug/10das.htm

http://in.rediff.com/money/2004/mar/03guest1.htm

Its high time to prove these ppl with inferiority complex wrong. But there are a few good points made here.
"When you dream a big dream, maybe a small part of it gets translated into reality. If you do not dream at all, what do you finally get in reality?An entrepreneur must have self-confidence bordering on arrogance."
 
Dear All,

Actions speak louder than words. If you really want to do some thing. Forget what some one said and what some one did, libraries and now internet is full of theory. None of them will help any one achieve any thing unless some one translates the theory in to action.

Here is a simple plan which may work. Come up with a product or service budget it resource it and manage it properly. Some consumer durables or FMCG ideas may be quite workable for the current environment in India. Any takers?
 
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