Access to forum leaders

[anilsangwan]

Absolutely. I believe Satyeshwar has already given information which we should be concerned about. We should not drag it further.

Asking for information is one thing and raising unneccessary concerns is another.

Suffice it to say that neither do I have the time, nor any inclination to read PMs of 16000+ members. The rare circumstances that I have had to do this under are when a female member has come to me complaining about how a male member is writing dirty messages and sexually harassing them, and I have had to collect proof against them to see if they are a repeat offender. Sadly, in most circumstances, I have found this to be true and have had to ban them from the site. In my recollection, there have been no other circumstances when I accessed a PM for any other purpose.

Still, let me put a blanket disclaimer. We, the administrators and moderators of Jatland, reserve the right to access all data (private or public). This is no different from services like gmail, yahoo, hotmail, facebook, twitter, blogging sites and other forums.

 

[annch]

Satyeshwar,

There is a repeat offender who openly flaunts a fake ID and tends to revert to his true nature sooner or later. But, he still seems to be appreciated by the moderators for his zeal to be a member at JL. How would you expect us to trust the moderation in that case?

Also, the blanket statement is not on the same lines as your earlier post regarding the access. Are the moderators, editors on other public forums active participants in discussions or do they have a social network on the forums as they are having on Jatland?

Anyways, the members can now decide on their own what they can write in their mails/ PMs on JL without worrying about who has access to that information.

Thanks
Anju

Suffice it to say that neither do I have the time, nor any inclination to read PMs of 16000+ members. The rare circumstances that I have had to do this under are when a female member has come to me complaining about how a male member is writing dirty messages and sexually harassing them, and I have had to collect proof against them to see if they are a repeat offender. Sadly, in most circumstances, I have found this to be true and have had to ban them from the site. In my recollection, there have been no other circumstances when I accessed a PM for any other purpose.

Still, let me put a blanket disclaimer. We, the administrators and moderators of Jatland, reserve the right to access all data (private or public). This is no different from services like gmail, yahoo, hotmail, facebook, twitter, blogging sites and other forums.

 

[singhvp]

Satyeshwar,

There is a repeat offender who openly flaunts a fake ID and tends to revert to his true nature sooner or later. But, he still seems to be appreciated by the moderators for his zeal to be a member at JL. How would you expect us to trust the moderation in that case?

Also, the blanket statement is not on the same lines as your earlier post regarding the access. Are the moderators, editors on other public forums active participants in discussions or do they have a social network on the forums as they are having on Jatland?

Anyways, the members can now decide on their own what they can write in their mails/ PMs on JL without worrying about who has access to that information.

Thanks
Anju

I have also noticed some repeat offenders and small time bullies who keep writing disruptive and meaningless posts. Quite recently (only about 7-10 days back), I encountered one such tiny bully on Chaupal. Interestingly, two moderators (including one editor) were also present on the Chaupal. However, one of the moderators left Chaupal after some time but the second moderator and the editor remained mute spectators and did not register any objection to the use of non-nonsensical and abusive language by this 'tiny bully'. If the log for the last 10 days is checked, you will come to know the truth. (I will try to dig the date and time also and will let you know in due course.). I may be wrong but I feel that either these bullies have a blessing of/proximity with some moderators or they are beyond their control. To the contrary some people get penalized for minor slips. I have a personal experience about the moderators being slightly partial. Quite recently, I got an infraction and temporary ban for being disruptive on one of the thread (I think it was regarding incest in Haryana etc.). I was surprised that those who keep writing disruptive posts on daily basis go scot free even without a slightest warning. Moderators were, however, generous enough to lift the ban prematurely when I reasoned with them and convinced them that I am not a 'bad man'.

 

[satyeshwar]

Folks,
Now we are digressing from the main topic of what access do moderators have to: I have a bad member to report, moderators are being partial and look what they did to me! Still, I will answer your questions.
For reporting nuisance members and egregious posts, there is a "contact us" link at the bottom of every page. There is also a "report post" link on every post. Please use these as they will send out emails to several of us. Please provide adequate proof against other members. We can then review as a team. If you feel like you are being discriminated against by a moderator, feel free to send out a PM to me or any other moderator and we can resolve the matter amicably. In general, we choose moderators very carefully as they tend to display an unbiased approach towards all members.
Another thing, all chat logs are automatically purged after 3 days so we can't go back 10 days to view logs.
-Satyeshwar

 

[bishanleo2001]

hahahha..... VP Singh jee we belive you that you are a good guy, you are too nice to be a bad person.
Regarding the privacy statement I guess moderator should put a privacy statement with a "I Agree" and "I Disagree" button, that pop up all the time when anyone login on the website. This disclaimer should include disclaimer that Jatland is obliged to keep the privacy of its all members safe and no matter what circumstances their information (i.e. chat.PM or whatever) will not be sell or shared to the third party.

Please advise. Constructive suggestions will be appreciated.

I have also noticed some repeat offenders and small time bullies who keep writing disruptive and meaningless posts. Quite recently (only about 7-10 days back), I encountered one such tiny bully on Chaupal. Interestingly, two moderators (including one editor) were also present on the Chaupal. However, one of the moderators left Chaupal after some time but the second moderator and the editor remained mute spectators and did not register any objection to the use of non-nonsensical and abusive language by this 'tiny bully'. If the log for the last 10 days is checked, you will come to know the truth. (I will try to dig the date and time also and will let you know in due course.). I may be wrong but I feel that either these bullies have a blessing of/proximity with some moderators or they are beyond their control. To the contrary some people get penalized for minor slips. I have a personal experience about the moderators being slightly partial. Quite recently, I got an infraction and temporary ban for being disruptive on one of the thread (I think it was regarding incest in Haryana etc.). I was surprised that those who keep writing disruptive posts on daily basis go scot free even without a slightest warning. Moderators were, however, generous enough to lift the ban prematurely when I reasoned with them and convinced them that I am not a 'bad man'.

 

[satyeshwar]

There is already a member's agreement that every new registrant MUST agree to before they can become a Jatland member. Again, this is no different than what every other site in the world is doing. We will NOT be putting a separate "I agree" or "I disagree" button that pops up every time someone logs on to the website as that would ruin the Jatland experience.

 

[singhvp]

@Satyeshwar: Thanks Satyeshwar for your prompt response. In fact I was/am not very familiar with the niceties of this site. Graduating slowly, have noted your valuable advice/instructions and in future will report any malicious behaviour/post to you promptly with sufficient evidence. About the privacy, I fully repose faith in your able administrator-ship and bank upon your wise and totally unprejudiced leadership. You have always been very supportive and I would like to register my gratitude to you publicly.

@Bishan: Frist of all thanks Bishan for your nice compliments. About the privacy statement (I agree, do not agree button) prompt I agree with Satyeshwar that it will ruin the Jatland experience.

 

[annch]

My post was not about the member but the moderator who has access to all the info and still......
Come to think of it, a fake ID is the best way to safeguard personal information, with no worries of who has access to what.

Having said that, really appreciate the work being done by the moderators/ editors in improving the quality of participation on JL. The blanket disclaimer regarding access works for me.

Thanks

 

[vijay]

Your name is Gabbar Singh. Age is X ( + or - Y ..... who cares ). You work for Z company.
You are a divorcee who is single and NEVER married but have only 2 kids.

I wonder if someone can misuse this personal information unless someone is providing his/her Credit Card number, Bank account, exact address, personal contact number or something like that.

Reading PM's or Personal Chat maybe an issue which seems to be a genuine concern.

 

[saluram]

member ko apni privacy rakhne ka hak hona chahiye aur Your name is Gabbar Singh. Age is X ( + or - Y ..... who cares ). You work for Z company.
You are a divorcee who is single and NEVER married but have only 2 kids. aisa kuch likha gaya hain chahe vo kisi ki bhi profile me ho use turant banned karna chahiye.
PM me dakhalndaji nahin karni chahiye chahe vo sateshwarji hi kyun na ho.