akshaymalik84
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ye dono kyun ....agar 6 k 6 jat MLA istifa de de do vidhansabha bhang ho sake hai.
Aftermath of reservation agitation in Haryana
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ye dono kyun ....agar 6 k 6 jat MLA istifa de de do vidhansabha bhang ho sake hai.
amitbudhwar
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Fir kya hoga? HJC ke 2 aur Independent 5 samarthan de denge BJP ko. Aur election abhi hua to Jato ko is hisab tai kuch koni milna. Saini already jeet chuka hai battle Jaato ko bhadka ke. Uska kaam poora ho chuka. Non-Jat CM ka mudda ab agle kayi elections mei kaafi dominate karega.
akshaymalik84
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Don't under estimate congress in these type of games, the 35 biradari can be split and congress is master in that. The way things are in centre everyone is against BJP, Mayawati role can be crucial here. She is eyeing Jats in UP.
amitbudhwar
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rakeshsehrawat
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ये बावलीतरेड भूल गए ये मंतर्ी इब बने है और जाट उस दिन बने थे जब पेट मै आए थे
भाई मारैगा तो लाश तो छांह मे गेरैगा
ये करकै तो देखैं
बैसाखी की सरकार हरियाणा मे नही चल सकती
भाई मारैगा तो लाश तो छांह मे गेरैगा
ये करकै तो देखैं
बैसाखी की सरकार हरियाणा मे नही चल सकती
Ek andolan me jo hamare bhai shaeed hue he unhe bahot bahot naman.
Ek andolan me jaton ne adbhut ekta dikhayi ye ekta hame kayam rakhni he bhaiyon aur ise aage tak leke jana he. Kuch jat leader hame gutton me bantne ka paryas karte he bina unke bahkave me aakar aur bina mahjabdariyon ke bahkave me aakar hume ek ekta ko aage leke jana he
Aage leke jana he hamare bachon aur jat kaun me bhavishay ki khatir.
Jat Ekta Jindabad
Ek andolan me jaton ne adbhut ekta dikhayi ye ekta hame kayam rakhni he bhaiyon aur ise aage tak leke jana he. Kuch jat leader hame gutton me bantne ka paryas karte he bina unke bahkave me aakar aur bina mahjabdariyon ke bahkave me aakar hume ek ekta ko aage leke jana he
Aage leke jana he hamare bachon aur jat kaun me bhavishay ki khatir.
Jat Ekta Jindabad
Forget that any Party will project Jat as a CM in future in Haryana or UP.
Even in earlier elections also in JAT belt election is always between Jat and Non Jat. In such situation we will always be defeated politically and diplomatically. In Haryana if this 35 and 1 continues then JAT should think of Projecting some one NON Jat as future CM. For this can need to align with someone who can defeat this Brahimin / Punjabi Refugee combination.. Otherwise we will be wiped out everywhere Politically / In Govt Jobs and in Private Jobs also. In Private Jobs also when a Non Jat person from Haryana is in Interview Panel then forget that he may select our son and daughter for Jobs. It was a challenge and in future it will be more bigger challenge. We need to address this issue urgently.
akshaymalik84
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All great/large-scale revolutions and movements lead to a churn in the society and naturally so. Though, at the same time, it is not guaranteed at the outset or during the movement that it would culminate in achieving the desired result/goal. Generally, the cause is sacrosanct and care is taken to ensure that it is not diluted by extraneous factors/issues.
Coming specifically to the recent Jat reservation movement, the cause is not only sacrosanct, but also the need of the hour. Jats have all along believed that either there should be no reservation at all or in case if there is, it ought to be given to them too. Despite having a rich history and past as a hard-working, honest and loyal race to the nation, it has somehow lagged behind in the race to reach its true potential in harnessing the opportunities available. This is more so vis-a-vis the other land-owning communities in the Jat belt who have been aided in their progress to a great extent by reservation. This demand for inclusion in OBCs has been raging (and pending approval/sanction) for a relatively long period of time. During the earlier days when the INLD was in power in Haryana, the INLD top brass felt that Jats are a proud and dominant race and do not need reservation by being tagged as a backward class. Subsequently, even the Congress govt. led by a Jat CM did mere lip service to the cause of Jat reservation for full 10 years. In fact, during the earlier Jat reservation movements, Jat agitators were shot dead by the Police on the orders of a Jat CM in the name of controlling the law and order situation. In a politically motivated move, towards the very fag end of 10-year Congress rule under a Jat CM, reservation was announced for Jats realizing very well that this reservation without any solid/firm basis of a credible research by a committee/commission, Jat reservation would not stand judicial scrutiny and crumble easily and inevitably. The Congress rule led by a Jat CM did nothing for Jat interests in the long run. Rather, it created a false feeling/perception that the govt. favours Jats over non-Jats thereby giving vested political interests fodder for further alienating non-Jats from/against Jats.
By the present Jat reservation agitation, we have shot ourselves in the foot. We went to war without preparing for it. By war here, I mean peaceful agitation for the just and reasonable cause of reservation for Jats. We jumped into it without doing our homework. We played into the hands of the political parties and Jat-haters like Raj Kumar Saini. The end result of all this is -
a. false promise of reservation
b. bad name to the Jats
c. future discrimination against Jats socially, economically and in terms of employment (especially in the private sector)
d. false criminal cases Jats for involvement in arson, looting, rape, etc.
It will take a long-long time to wipe out the stigma of sins committed by non-Jat anti-social elements, the blame for which was both intentionally (by some vested interests) and ignorantly put on the entire Jat community.
As Bharti ji had rightly put forward in one of her posts in this thread, the need of the hour is for the community to take affirmative action. Creating self help groups within the community possibly in the areas:-
a. education - imparting quality and competitive education to the community students. A good example to emulate could be the super-30 classes of Bihar. Setting up of scholarships for the bright yet needy students from the community.
b. trade & finance - setting up farmers' cooperatives to channelise our resources and provide platforms to the farmers and small time traders from the community to access the larger markets and sources of funding.
c. legal support - any unjust and unreasonable move against the community in terms of any policy on land acquisition, restrictive laws, etc should be challenged and fought tooth and nail in the courts of law.
d. socially building bridges with other communities - Tall Jat leaders like Sir Chhotu Ram, Ch. Bansi Lal, Ch. Devi Lal, Ch. Charan Singh, etc. were leaders of the masses and had a wide support base even amongst non-Jats. We need to rebuild the bridges burnt between Jats and Non-Jats. This also involves exposing the gameplan of such hatemongers as Raj Kumar Saini and some politicians in the Congress party.
Jats are a noble race. We have set great examples in the service of the society and the nation as the hands that feed the fellow citizens and guard the borders. We can never be arsonists, looters, thugs, goons, rapists, etc. There is no other option but to reclaim our lost glory, if not for ourselves, then at least for our proud forefathers.
Coming specifically to the recent Jat reservation movement, the cause is not only sacrosanct, but also the need of the hour. Jats have all along believed that either there should be no reservation at all or in case if there is, it ought to be given to them too. Despite having a rich history and past as a hard-working, honest and loyal race to the nation, it has somehow lagged behind in the race to reach its true potential in harnessing the opportunities available. This is more so vis-a-vis the other land-owning communities in the Jat belt who have been aided in their progress to a great extent by reservation. This demand for inclusion in OBCs has been raging (and pending approval/sanction) for a relatively long period of time. During the earlier days when the INLD was in power in Haryana, the INLD top brass felt that Jats are a proud and dominant race and do not need reservation by being tagged as a backward class. Subsequently, even the Congress govt. led by a Jat CM did mere lip service to the cause of Jat reservation for full 10 years. In fact, during the earlier Jat reservation movements, Jat agitators were shot dead by the Police on the orders of a Jat CM in the name of controlling the law and order situation. In a politically motivated move, towards the very fag end of 10-year Congress rule under a Jat CM, reservation was announced for Jats realizing very well that this reservation without any solid/firm basis of a credible research by a committee/commission, Jat reservation would not stand judicial scrutiny and crumble easily and inevitably. The Congress rule led by a Jat CM did nothing for Jat interests in the long run. Rather, it created a false feeling/perception that the govt. favours Jats over non-Jats thereby giving vested political interests fodder for further alienating non-Jats from/against Jats.
By the present Jat reservation agitation, we have shot ourselves in the foot. We went to war without preparing for it. By war here, I mean peaceful agitation for the just and reasonable cause of reservation for Jats. We jumped into it without doing our homework. We played into the hands of the political parties and Jat-haters like Raj Kumar Saini. The end result of all this is -
a. false promise of reservation
b. bad name to the Jats
c. future discrimination against Jats socially, economically and in terms of employment (especially in the private sector)
d. false criminal cases Jats for involvement in arson, looting, rape, etc.
It will take a long-long time to wipe out the stigma of sins committed by non-Jat anti-social elements, the blame for which was both intentionally (by some vested interests) and ignorantly put on the entire Jat community.
As Bharti ji had rightly put forward in one of her posts in this thread, the need of the hour is for the community to take affirmative action. Creating self help groups within the community possibly in the areas:-
a. education - imparting quality and competitive education to the community students. A good example to emulate could be the super-30 classes of Bihar. Setting up of scholarships for the bright yet needy students from the community.
b. trade & finance - setting up farmers' cooperatives to channelise our resources and provide platforms to the farmers and small time traders from the community to access the larger markets and sources of funding.
c. legal support - any unjust and unreasonable move against the community in terms of any policy on land acquisition, restrictive laws, etc should be challenged and fought tooth and nail in the courts of law.
d. socially building bridges with other communities - Tall Jat leaders like Sir Chhotu Ram, Ch. Bansi Lal, Ch. Devi Lal, Ch. Charan Singh, etc. were leaders of the masses and had a wide support base even amongst non-Jats. We need to rebuild the bridges burnt between Jats and Non-Jats. This also involves exposing the gameplan of such hatemongers as Raj Kumar Saini and some politicians in the Congress party.
Jats are a noble race. We have set great examples in the service of the society and the nation as the hands that feed the fellow citizens and guard the borders. We can never be arsonists, looters, thugs, goons, rapists, etc. There is no other option but to reclaim our lost glory, if not for ourselves, then at least for our proud forefathers.
jatofbhiwani
New member
Very Well said!
At present the three most hated people in India thanks to Indian media are Muslims, Jats and Scheduled castes.
Our survival against this discrimination is possible by joining hands with these two groups Nationally and Locally. We should support at Muslim or Scheduled Caste for the Job of CM.
the other option is to support a Party which does not recognize caste or religion - and that party is CPI.
ayushkadyan
Member
Are you JNU passout?
Welcome back, Abhik.
Great thoughts. And I am sure these thoughts shall turn into action and surely we will move forward.
amitbudhwar
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amitbudhwar
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It would be interesting to see how this 35 Biradari platform will evolve. Even in one community people have different opinions, political affiliations and propensity. And we are talking about 35 Biradari where opportunistic people are fighting each other for a 'true' representative of 35 castes. LOL!
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rakeshsehrawat
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रेवाड़ी। रेवाड़ी में रविवार को प्रदेश में बीते दिनों जाट आरक्षण आंदोलन की आड़ में हुई हिंसा, आगजनी व लूट की घटनाआें के खिलाफ एकजुटता का संदेश लेकर पहुंचे 35 बिरादरी के लोग ही आपस में ही भीड़ गए। हद तो तब हो गई, जब यूथ कांग्रेस के पूर्व प्रदेशाध्यक्ष एवं पूर्व बिजली मंत्री पुत्र एवं लालू प्रसाद यादव के दमाद चिरंजीव राव की इज्जत पर बन आई। भीड़ ने छीना चिरंजीव राव के हाथ से माइक...
- शहर के सेक्टर-1 स्थित नेहरू पार्क में नेहरू पार्क में 35 बिरादरी के लोगों ने शांतिस्थापना के नजरिए से बैठक का आयोजन किया था। बिरादरी के बीच अपना समर्थन देने पहुंचे नेताआें को अपने ही लोगों के बीच जबरदस्त विरोध का सामना करना पड़ा।
- भीड़ ने चिरंजीव के हाथ से माइक तक छीन लिया और सभी नेताआें को मंच से नीचे बिठा दिया।
- चिरंजीव का विरोध इसलिए किया गया कि वह 35 बिरादरी के मंच पर कोई राजनीतिक भाषण नहीं चाहते थे।
- इसके बाद 35 बिरदारी के लोगों ने तहसीलदार के माध्यम से मुख्यमंत्री के नाम एक ज्ञापन सौंप हिंसा, आगजनी व लूटपाट का शिकार हुए लोगों की तत्काल सहायता देने व दंगाइयों के खिलाफ सख्त से सख्त कार्रवाई की मांग की।
- इन लोगों ने कहा कि अगर 16 मार्च तक सरकार ने इन विषयों पर गौर नहीं किया तो 17 मार्च को पूरे प्रदेश को बंद करने का भी एेलान किया और साथ ही आत्मदाह की चेतावनी भी दी
रोहतक/झज्जर। झज्जर में रविवार को कृषि मंत्री ओमप्रकाश धनखड़ हिंसा पीड़ितों से मिलने पहुंचे तो लोगों ने दरवाजे बंद कर लिए। ये नजारा था झज्जर की छावनी मोहल्ले का, जहां लोगों ने धनखड़ को खुले तौर पर कह दिया कि उन्हें आपके सहयोग व हमदर्दी की जरूरत नहीं है। अंदर से ही कहा, गो बैक धनखड़...
- शहर के सेक्टर-1 स्थित नेहरू पार्क में नेहरू पार्क में 35 बिरादरी के लोगों ने शांतिस्थापना के नजरिए से बैठक का आयोजन किया था। बिरादरी के बीच अपना समर्थन देने पहुंचे नेताआें को अपने ही लोगों के बीच जबरदस्त विरोध का सामना करना पड़ा।
- भीड़ ने चिरंजीव के हाथ से माइक तक छीन लिया और सभी नेताआें को मंच से नीचे बिठा दिया।
- चिरंजीव का विरोध इसलिए किया गया कि वह 35 बिरादरी के मंच पर कोई राजनीतिक भाषण नहीं चाहते थे।
- इसके बाद 35 बिरदारी के लोगों ने तहसीलदार के माध्यम से मुख्यमंत्री के नाम एक ज्ञापन सौंप हिंसा, आगजनी व लूटपाट का शिकार हुए लोगों की तत्काल सहायता देने व दंगाइयों के खिलाफ सख्त से सख्त कार्रवाई की मांग की।
- इन लोगों ने कहा कि अगर 16 मार्च तक सरकार ने इन विषयों पर गौर नहीं किया तो 17 मार्च को पूरे प्रदेश को बंद करने का भी एेलान किया और साथ ही आत्मदाह की चेतावनी भी दी
रोहतक/झज्जर। झज्जर में रविवार को कृषि मंत्री ओमप्रकाश धनखड़ हिंसा पीड़ितों से मिलने पहुंचे तो लोगों ने दरवाजे बंद कर लिए। ये नजारा था झज्जर की छावनी मोहल्ले का, जहां लोगों ने धनखड़ को खुले तौर पर कह दिया कि उन्हें आपके सहयोग व हमदर्दी की जरूरत नहीं है। अंदर से ही कहा, गो बैक धनखड़...
sumitsingh2016
New member
http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-news-india/why-the-jat-community-wants-reservation/ Another good article by Indian Express on Jat Reservation Issue. I am surprised this communist mouthpiece has published two good articles on Jat Reservation. Only English Newspaper in India which has tried to put Jats point of view to the nation. Author is Deeptiman Tiwari. Earlier Article was also written by him. I will keep an eye on him. He is doing the reporting from ground not by sitting in Delhi.
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Yes, Indian Express has come up with many more such articles in past few days.
Here are few extensively shared on FB by me and others:
http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/in-fact-jats-think-theyre-backward-theres-a-reason/
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...ation-stir-obc-quota-rohtak-haryana-protests/
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...-quota-haryana-khattar-the-backward-forwards/
I subscribe to TOI and Indian Express.
Times for 'chatpati khabrein' and IE for serious news and op-ed
Here are few extensively shared on FB by me and others:
http://indianexpress.com/article/explained/in-fact-jats-think-theyre-backward-theres-a-reason/
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...ation-stir-obc-quota-rohtak-haryana-protests/
http://indianexpress.com/article/op...-quota-haryana-khattar-the-backward-forwards/
I subscribe to TOI and Indian Express.
Times for 'chatpati khabrein' and IE for serious news and op-ed
amitbudhwar
New member
I think Jats played into the hands of Saini. State govt allowed him to bark and let him loose. BJP won the election by making suspense around CM post. This helped them getting Jats and Non Jats votes. After appointing Non-JAT CM, BJP gauged the public mood and allowed other non Jat leaders to spread the hatred against Jats. Saini, Vij, and so many others. They all want a pie of Non-Jat vote share and this is first time they had such a good opportunity to make most out of it. They have been waiting for this day and they allowed this situation to occur. Jats are known for straightforwardness and that's why their anger came out like this. Their anger was fueled by Sainis, Punjabis, Rajputs and Yadavs. And then BJP let the fight go on and aggravated situation by funding mobs to destroy properties. BJP did not try anything to stop all this fight and violence. They wanted more damage to Non-Jats which will turn more polarizing in the state. Congress hand also cannot be denied. But by and large I see it's BJP conspiracy to polarize vote bank. Media also used every bit to tarnish the image of Jats. It is run by majority of Non-Jats. So many twisted articles are published to defame Jats. They are leaving no stone unturned to create Anti-Jat opinion in the whole country. Jats are simple minded people, and unfortunately it costed them dearer.
amitbudhwar
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Its a fake propaganda community page floated by some extremist elements. Majority of links on that page are also fake.
akshaymalik84
Active member
Information coming out from police sources is that 60-70% of arsonist caught so far are non Jats.