Aftermath of reservation agitation in Haryana

AryanPoonia said:
Why don't people like KP Singh start English medium schools in villages. They can at least do so in the name of social service, if they feel ashamed of being Jats.
Our responsible Jat bhai Virendra Sehwag has opened the school named Sehwag International School in Jhajjar.
It is bitter truth that people who have no knowledge of English , are considered uneducated in our country.
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I think initiative is required. Sehwag international school is very expensive and common people cannot afford such expensive education. English lecture and tutorials can be delivered through video conferencing. A good English tutor can be hired and through video conferencing lectures can be delivered to lot of people free of cost. Similarly there are many online education courses available to which Jats can subscribe and start learning. These are very cheap options and easy to afford by anyone. Its matter of creating such network and educating youths to take this path. Once it becomes a culture, I am sure lot of Jat youths can explore opportunities not only in India but around the globe. As I said in my previous post, lot of people around the world are just good communicator running businesses just based on their communication skills. Jats will definitely need to adopt this path in order to create opportunities for themselves!
 
हरियाणा: उपद्रवियों ने जलाया था इस विधवा का ढाबा, जाटों ने ही दोबारा शुरू कराया

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रोहतक.हरियाणा में पिछले दिनों जाट आंदोलन के दौरान उपद्रवियों ने रोहतक में एक विधवा का ढाबा फूंक दिया था। अब चंडीगढ़ की जाट कमेटी ने ही इस ढाबे को फिर से खड़ा करने में मदद की है। जाट कमेटी ने फ्रिज, जूसर, फर्नीचर, सब्जियां और बर्तन देकर कर ढाबा फिर शुरू करवाया है। उपद्रवियों ने लगाई थी आग...

जाट आंदोलन की हिंसा में खाक हुआ दो बेटियों की विधवा मां का ढाबा दोबारा चालू हो गया।
- सोशल मीडिया पर वायरल दैनिक भास्कर की इस खबर को देखकर चंडीगढ़ की जाट सेवा समिति ने इसमें ढाबे को शुरू करवाया।
- समिति के सदस्यों ने कहा कि वे दूसरे पीड़ितों की भी मदद करेंगे।

क्या है मामला?

- गांधी कैम्प निवासी विधवा चंचल ढाबा चलाती हैं। पति की मौत के बाद ढाबे की आय से ही वह अपनी दो बेटियों की परवरिश कर रही थीं। उपद्रवियों ने 19 फरवरी को लूटपाट के बाद ढाबे में आग लगा दी, जिसमें सब कुछ खाक हो गया।
- चंचल के सामने पेट भरने की समस्या खड़ी हो गई। सरकारी सर्वे में पीड़िता ने साढ़े पांच लाख रुपए देने की मांग की।
- चंडीगढ़ की जाट सेवा समिति के मेंबर्स ने सोशल मीडिया पर ढाबे की बर्बादी की तस्वीरें देखीं। फिर इमरजेंसी मीटिंग कर विधवा की मदद करने का फैसला किया गया।
- तीन दिन पहले रोहतक आकर समिति के चेयरमैन सुभाष बैनीवाल और बाकी मेंबर्स ने चंचल से मुलाकात की। सर्वे किया गया।
- इसके बाद बाजार से सभी जरूरी सामान खरीद कर ढाबे में रखवाया गया। इसके बाद पीड़िता से ही मंगलवार को ढाबे का उद्घाटन करवाया गया।
 
amitbudhwar said:
I think initiative is required. Sehwag international school is very expensive and common people cannot afford such expensive education. English lecture and tutorials can be delivered through video conferencing. A good English tutor can be hired and through video conferencing lectures can be delivered to lot of people free of cost. Similarly there are many online education courses available to which Jats can subscribe and start learning. These are very cheap options and easy to afford by anyone. Its matter of creating such network and educating youths to take this path. Once it becomes a culture, I am sure lot of Jat youths can explore opportunities not only in India but around the globe. As I said in my previous post, lot of people around the world are just good communicator running businesses just based on their communication skills. Jats will definitely need to adopt this path in order to create opportunities for themselves!
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I am agreeing 100% with Amit Budhwar. Our youths need to focus more on career oriented education and courses like BBA, BCA, IT related course, Mass Com etc. There are lot of Jat youths are already doing such course. A good command over English language or any other foreign language (not that costly to learn now a days) will be like icing on cake. We can't depend on government job completely as they are limited in number and even after reservation a lot of youths will be jobless. So private sector or self employment is the area we need to focus on. We have brains, And if we have skills then there should no be any problem. A change is required in our attitude.
 
Fun intended. :p

हरियाणा मैं इसा ट्रेंड चाल गया अक् काल नै किसी कै बालक भी होया तो भी नू कहवैंगे
"जाटां नै करया। " ;) :D
 
There are two options in front of Haryana Govt. either provide reservation to jats or deny

Situation 1 means so called 35 biradari will raise objection and matter will remain in court
If jats are denied for reservation everyone will pointout and evenif nobody cares still only someone just looking at jat means opening of third eye of lord shiva .

Haryana is at verge of communal riots and there is nothing that we can do


And teaching English at such times is not a good idea as per me. Long term strategies are different and can be applied only when situation is somewhat better.

Anyways let's try to sumup things

Question 1 do you think that reservation will be given to jats?
If no what will be the scenario and what can we do to avoid that?
If yes what will be scenario?
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
There are two options in front of Haryana Govt. either provide reservation to jats or deny

Situation 1 means so called 35 biradari will raise objection and matter will remain in court
If jats are denied for reservation everyone will pointout and evenif nobody cares still only someone just looking at jat means opening of third eye of lord shiva .

Haryana is at verge of communal riots and there is nothing that we can do


And teaching English at such times is not a good idea as per me. Long term strategies are different and can be applied only when situation is somewhat better.

Anyways let's try to sumup things

Question 1 do you think that reservation will be given to jats?
If no what will be the scenario and what can we do to avoid that?
If yes what will be scenario?
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First and foremost thing is to sort out leadership in Jat community. Without a strong and good leadership, you cannot tackle these situations methodologically. I am not saying that Jats don't have good leaders. There are good leader but we need better coordinated plans. Jat protests went out of control as result of fragmented leadership. And this was the weakest point and costed us big time. If protests were led by a central and strong leadership(To which majority listen), then we would not have seen this situation today.

Opportunist people exploited the fragmented Jat leadership and as a result they have been able to high jack Jat protests and turned them into mob and took all the advantage out of it. And if cannot learn from this past mistake, I don't think we can succeed in future anyway. A strong central leadership is must to achieve what Jats want today. Let me quote: "Where there is no vision, the people perish", "Leadership is the capacity to translate vision into reality".
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
Question 1 do you think that reservation will be given to jats?
If no what will be the scenario and what can we do to avoid that?
If yes what will be scenario?
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I think reservation will be given to Jats as Centre and State govt already promised but I think it will be either too less or useless. or it could be challenged in the court and we will be back to square one. What one can observe in Haryana is that media and state leadership is trying to form an opinion among residents of Haryana that giving reservation to Jats is unjustified as they are very dominant and well off. And other thing they are also doing is to present Jats as villains. Non-Jats leaders are currently gauging people reaction's with respect to damage done in Haryana and its no brainier that they are putting all the blame of this violence on Jats. To hide inefficiency of state leadership, they are trying to put blames on Jat Leaders, Jat officers as well by singling them out.

There are news that RSS is also actively pursing this matter to find or prove Jat officers hands in riots. Going forward I think Jats will need to come up with a counter strategy. It could be improving our image in the society, helping people(showing it in media) and victims of riots and shape opinions of public accordingly. Not reacting too much against Anti-Jat campaigns and let them dilute automatically and slowly. Showing patience and act on right time, right place is the key. One can learn from people of Bihar on how strategically and tactfully they voted and did not allow nefarious plans of opportunists people to succeed. There were attempts to stir up communal pot before Bihar assembly elections but people showed patience this time as they learned from their past mistakes of Loksabha elections. Kaam aisa karna chahiye ki "Saanp bhi mar jaaye aur lathi bhi na toote". Patience and using mind peacefully and intelligently can help us win this war against Jats.
 
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amitbudhwar said:
I think reservation will be given to Jats as Centre and State govt already promised but I think it will be either too less or useless. or it could be challenged in the court and we will be back to square one. What one can observe in Haryana is that media and state leadership is trying to form an opinion among residents of Haryana that giving reservation to Jats is unjustified as they are very dominant and well off. And other thing they are also doing is to present Jats as villains. Non-Jats leaders are currently gauging people reaction's with respect to damage done in Haryana and its no brainier that they are putting all the blame of this violence on Jats.

There are news that RSS is also actively pursing this matter to find or prove Jat officers hands in riots. Going forward I think Jats will need to come up with a counter strategy. Kaam aisa karna chahiye ki "Saanp bhi mar jaaye aur lathi bhi na toote". Patience and using mind peacefully and intelligently can help us win this war against Jats.
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Now if we say we are converting to Islam then ???
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
Now if we say we are converting to Islam then ???
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This will send a negative message in the society. Its a risky step and don't think people in RSS are fool either. They know very well. In past lower castes have threatened like this. So its nothing new and other thing is you cannot get a consensus in Jat community on this. So in my opinion it could prove counter productive.
 
You have better plan ?? Except we should find leader
Jat ka leader dhoondte dhoondte to peedhiyan khatam ho gayi

Hum jat hain kehne ka nahi karne ka jigar rakhte hain aur hum nahi to koi nahi

Which society???
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
You have better plan ?? Except we should find leader
Jat ka leader dhoondte dhoondte to peedhiyan khatam ho gayi

Hum jat hain kehne ka nahi karne ka jigar rakhte hain aur hum nahi to koi nahi

Which society???
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Yahi to wajah hai sir ki aaj ye haalat hain. In my opinion, without an intelligent leadership you cannot win this war at all. Leadership can help us in channeling our energy effectively. Also educating young leaders to think smartly. There are various measures we can consider and which will surely help. Otherwise result will be the same. People will take benefit of fragmented, unclear leadership. Aaj kal ladayi khuleaam lath lekar nahi hoti. Lath maarne ke tarike badal gaye hain aur humme ye samaghna hoga.
 
amitbudhwar said:
Yahi to wajah hai sir ki aaj ye haalat hain. In my opinion, without an intelligent leadership you cannot win this war at all. Leadership can help us in channeling our energy effectively. Also educating young leaders to think smartly. There are various measures we can consider and which will surely help. Otherwise result will be the same. People will take benefit of fragmented, unclear leadership.
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भाई इसनै लीडर दो रै

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Harya...wer/Vineet-Singh-207?srid=n9Rg&share=6d99e9ca
 
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rakeshsehrawat said:
भाई इसनै लीडर दो रै
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haha! bhai think hai, aap socho kuch aur. Main koi bahut intelligent vyakti nahi hoon. sabhi bhahiyo ko apne sujhaav dene chahiye aur jis baat pe collective agreement banta hai aur jo sensible approach ho, wo leke chalo. Sab ke pass kuch na kuch ideas hote hain aur unse hi ek accha samadhan nikal sakta hai. Maine apne 2 cent diye the buss. Aur bhai bhi apne sujhaav dein to hum behatar solution la sakte hain, hopefully.
 
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rakeshsehrawat said:
भाई इसनै लीडर दो रै

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Harya...wer/Vineet-Singh-207?srid=n9Rg&share=6d99e9ca
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Sahi baat kahi Amit Budhwar bhai aapne. Aur Rakesh Sehrawat Bhai har time latham Lath hone se kaam nahi chalta. Jor to ram ne ghna de diya jaton ko par sath mai jo thoda dimag diya hai wo bhi use karne k liye hi diya hai sambahl k rakhne ke liye nahi diya. Aise ladte rhene ka koi resllut nahi hona. Jaan to bekasur logon ki jayegi wo fir chahe jaat ho ya koi aur. Ye politician hamne ladwana chahte hai aur ham tayaar baithe hai marna khagad jun seeng paine kar ke.

Rahi baat bhai reservation ki to ye baat to pakki hai ki Govt reservation to degi par OBC me nahi degi. Whai pichli baar ki jaise SBC me milega aur kayi log hai jo isne chalage bhi karenge court me. To merra vichar hai ki Haryana me Jaton ki taraf se koi bahut hi kabil Lawyer hona chahiye jo independently hamara paksh court me rakhe. Baki ye ladne ke liye tayaar rehna aurdharm badlne ki baat karna sari aani jani baat hai. kuch nahi rakha inme,
 
Aur mamla sirf court me rahega? Kaunsi duniya me rehte ho aag lagni hai aur ab bhag nahi sakte sardaro wala haul hona hai thare bhaichare khinde khinde handenge ek chakkar rohtak hansi hisar ka bhi maar ke dekh lo
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
Aur mamla sirf court me rahega? Kaunsi duniya me rehte ho aag lagni hai aur ab bhag nahi sakte sardaro wala haul hona hai thare bhaichare khinde khinde handenge ek chakkar rohtak hansi hisar ka bhi maar ke dekh lo
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Ladne ke bahane dhudhne ho to aapko ek nahi hazar mil jayenge. Mai Hisar se hi hoon. Jis area me rehta hoon wahaan lag bhag har cast k log rehte hai. To maine to 1% bhi aapsi man mutav nahi dekha hai yahaan par. Yahaan to sare k sare prem pyar se reh rahe hai aur I am sure yahi haal har jagha hai. Ladne wale bhi hai par simit matra me
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
There are two options in front of Haryana Govt. either provide reservation to jats or deny

Situation 1 means so called 35 biradari will raise objection and matter will remain in court
If jats are denied for reservation everyone will pointout and evenif nobody cares still only someone just looking at jat means opening of third eye of lord shiva .

Haryana is at verge of communal riots and there is nothing that we can do


And teaching English at such times is not a good idea as per me. Long term strategies are different and can be applied only when situation is somewhat better.

Anyways let's try to sumup things

Question 1 do you think that reservation will be given to jats?
If no what will be the scenario and what can we do to avoid that?
If yes what will be scenario?
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किम्मे कर ले ... खोसडा त बजणा ऐ बजणा
 
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Socha ek baar fir yaad dila duoon sare bhaiyan nai. Bachapan me padhi hogi. Ek billi Jat hogi har dusri non-nat aur bandar kon hai yo khud samjadar ho
एक गाँव में 2 बिल्लियाँ रहती थी | वो दोनों आपस में बहुत प्यार से रहती थी | उन्हें जो कुछ भी मिलता था, उसे आपस में मिल-बांटकर खाया करती थी | एक दिन उन्हें एक रोटी मिली | उसे बराबर -बराबर बाँटते वक़्त उनमें झगड़ा हो गया | एक बिल्ली को अपनी रोटी का टुकड़ा दूसरी बिल्ली के रोटी के टुकड़े से छोटा लगा | लेकिन दूसरी बिल्ली को अपनी रोटी का टुकड़ा छोटा नहीं लगा |
जब दोनों बिल्लियाँ किसी नतीजे तक नहीं पहुंची तो दोनों बिल्लियाँ एक बन्दर के पास गयीं | उन्होंने बन्दर को सारी बात बतायी और उससे न्याय करने के लिए कहा | सारी बात सुनकर बन्दर एक तराजू लेकर आया और दोनों टुकड़े एक-एक पलड़े में रख दिए | तोलते समय जो पलड़ा भारी हुआ, उस वाली तरफ से उसने थोड़ी सी रोटी तोड़कर अपने मुँह में डाल ली | अब दूसरी तरफ का पलड़ा भारी हो गया, तो बन्दर ने उस तरफ से रोटी तोड़कर अपने मुँह में डाल ली | इस तरह बन्दर कभी इस तरफ से तो कभी दूसरी तरफ से रोटी ज्यादा होने का कारण बताकर रोटी तोड़कर अपने मुँह में डाल लेता |
दोनों बिल्लियाँ चुपचाप बन्दर के फैंसले का इंतज़ार करती रहीं लेकिन जब दोनों बिल्लियों ने देखा कि दोनों टुकड़े बहुत छोटे-छोटे रह गए तो वे बन्दर से बोली : ” आप चिंता ना करो, हम लोग अपने आप रोटी का बंटवारा कर लेंगी”
इस बात पर बन्दर बोला – ” जैसा आप दोनों को ठीक लगे, लेकिन मुझे भी अपनी मेहनत कि मज़दूरी तो मिलनी ही चाहिए ना” इतना कहकर बन्दर ने रोटी के बचे हुए दोनों टुकड़े अपने मुँह में डाल लिए और बिल्लियों को वहां से खाली हाथ भगा दिया |
दोनों बिल्लियों को अपनी गलती का एहसास चुका था और उन्हें समझ में आ चुका था कि “आपस की फूट बहुत बुरी होती है और दूसरे इसका फायदा उठा सकते हैं”
 
akshaymalik84 said:
किम्मे कर ले ... खोसडा त बजणा ऐ बजणा
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या मामूली सी बात इन बालकां की समझ मै तो ना आ रही किमे ना भाई जेली के सिंगडा कै तेल लावां फेर
 
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