Am i being paying to be the Jat

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rockingguy said:
okie dats fine..watever u say is fine..but i guess english should not be the criteria for doin MS CS all the master courses.....yeah i have been able to do good in english..but i know many ppl who don't get any oppurtunity to study in good school...they are having good technical skill even better then the ppl studing here..but as they r not able to speak good english they are not able to make out good in computers or any other technical skill..i know many ppl who are not able to avail good studies and good break in good companies..just because of english..if this country checks ur skills they better should check on ur ability to think logically for technical field...rather then giving stress on GRE ....yeah english matters at this is the language of communication but not the criteria to judge the ability of ppl....i guess u might be rite but ur ability to understand technical stuff doesn't depends on english...i m in the country where more of the ppl speak spanish then english....ratio of english speakin in india is equivalent to US.
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Language is really important for academics, I just wonder why would an Indian person complain about English being an essential part of GRE. Think of Chinese and other students who come from "no english at all" backgrounds and still excel in all the spheres in academics. I consider Indians in much better place than them when it comes to English, and still due to their hard work these students give Indian students a tough fight in admission process and acadmics itself.

Be it knowledge of English or other technical skills to study and live in an English speaking country both are important. If we start criticising the exam then we must wonder whether an English graduate student really needs to do all that Math. I think a good level of English even in western world does tell a lot about a person's employability, level of knowledge and skills.

Cheers,

P.S. There is an ongoing thread recently started by Amit Chillar in one of the job forums on this site, I suppose we all should chip in to help everyone with the language instead of simply arguing about relevance of English which is now the official Lingua Franca of the world.
 
sandydalal said:
thanks all of you to motivate > I will follow whatever you all suggest to me.Its a kind of deed that you all done for me.From today itself i start to follow the direction which you all give me.Form next time you all feel the change in me definately
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Dear Sandeep:

All the best to you.

Cheers,

Amit
 
Baat uss zamaney kee hai jab main 12th class ke baad tafree marya karta thaa. Maa ke naak mein dum aa gaya. Phir ek din mere andar ka insaan jaag gaya. Maine maa se bolya ki main naukreee karunga. To main nikal gaya doston ke saath Call Center Interviews ke liye.

I do not know how the selection process works for call centers these days. But, those days the process started with an introduction round. There were three other rounds, but I never made it past the introduction round.

I never got a job in a call center. In a way it was good as it gave me a chance to study for my SAT and TOEFL, and I made it to the US.

I have been here a few years. My best learning experience was a Business Communication course that I took last year. It tremendously helped improve my written and spoken english skills.

Now I work as a Classroom Support at my school. Most of the time I am on the phone with Americans. I am really good at switching my dialects. My American friends say that they can hardly make out that I am a non-native, over the phone. My desi friends (ask Keshav Dahiya by god ;-) ) always say that I still sound as "jat" as one can be.

The moral of the story is that we adapt to the environment we live and work in. We are comfortable if we confirm to the required standards. But, we struggle to improve ourselves if we fail the standards.

My suggestion would be that those who have problem with written or spoken english need to immerse themselves in a demanding environment. This could be done by:

1. Reading english publication. Avoid Delhi Times. It will $crew your english even further.

2. Communicate in english with those who are good at it.

3. Listen to english radio shows or watch english TV programming.

4. Writing is the most part. You cannot improve your spoken english without having good writing skills. So write as much as you can. Get someone to proofread what you write and improve on your mistakes.

Honestly, it is not the end of the world if your english $ucks. I know so many Patels here in the US who can hardly speak a word in english, but are millionaires.

It is your career objectives and your determination that really matter.
 
Bhai Aisa hai Kuch kar lai nothing will help you out the only thing that can help
you out is determination to achieve Something.

Just try to speak with yourself bcz it is not possible here to live in a english speaking enviorment,Be critc of yorrself and introspect yourself that what you are not having in yourself.

There is nothing in this blame game, I will advice you to nurchure atleast one of the your talents to such a level that even if you speak haryanvi,they will say plz join our company Sir.

You need to have something extra and that can be anything.

I can quote you hendreds of example of recent time "of our jat boys" who reached such great heights even without knowing english, You just cant speak well.

I rember the words of my grandfather who always used to say to me.

"Khanzar Ke Kya Mazal Ke Tujhe Khayal Kar Sake

Ye Too Tera Hai Khayal Ke Tu Khayal Ho Gaya"
 
Sandeep,
Members have already posted here what is right and that being; this is a problem that anyone can face (and not just a Harayanvi Jat etc.)...so I will not just add to the same! (Hell, I myself self confessedly walk around with quite a heavy accent here at work; the only difference being that I am in a place that the Hispanics do an even worse job then me and so mine goes relatively un-noticed! Heh! Heh!:D )...

Now anyways coming back to helping you figure out something: now that you know what the problem is and what is it that is holding back any of your planned progress....then why don't you take some very aggressive steps about it!...let me just throw an idea out there for you and it may or may not be useful, but let's give you some food for thought:

We all know about this new wave of outsourcing and call centers in India, and more importantly (in your case here) those lil' speech and accent teaching centers that have sprung up everywhere in the nation like mushrooms!...WHY NOT TAKE THE BENEFIT OF THAT? The ultimate goal is the same after all, isn't it? (and I am not suggesting you be a call center employee or something) but that is to adopt a good enough English speaking accent!...What say?
 
HI SANDEEP ,DONT WORRY AND U WILL OVERCOME ALL OF THIS,BUT ONE THIBG WHICH IS VERY IMPORATANT IS THT U DONT HAVE TO BE SHY,,,,U WILLL FEEL MORE CONFIDENT ,DONT HESITATE ATALL,,EK BAR GALTI HOGI ,DO BAAR HOGI,LOG PEHLI BAAR DEKHEGE AUR HASSAN GE,,BUT WHEN THEY WILL SEE THT U R MAKING EFFORTS TRUST ME THEY WILL BE WITH U THE WAY WE R TODAY WITH U SUGGESTING THINGS
aLSO ,,do to dictionary.com,,on tht u will also get the actual prononciation of the words ,kyonki waise to vocabalary strong kaar lo but jab tak sahi tarah pronounce nahin karoge ,,,baat na bane soo chk ttht website,,and also stand infront of the mirror and talk to ur self this will help u a lot
chalo no worrie,,and let me tell u i know a spanish guy who didnt knew a asinglt word of english and now he is making websites for these goras
so u can do it mate u can
all the best
 
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