America foe or friend

AMERICA- FOE OR A FRIEND

  • FRIEND

    Votes: 6 60.0%

  • FOE

    Votes: 4 40.0%

  • I DONT KNOW

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    10
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saharan21

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AFTER the nuclear deal many people start considering US as a partner and a friend of india.America is helping india in many ways from donation for poverty reduction to the nuclear energy.lakhs of indians today working in americas which inturn enchancing the foreign reserves of the country. There is a famous saying in america these days " that one day a PATEL could be the president of america"
85% of the total hotels in america are owned by indians. 45% scientist in nasa are indians, same in microsoft. world largest and american company WALMART IS COMING TO INDIA
there is lot of things happening these days which shows a better future for indo-us relations.
BUT......
THE same america is giving lots of arms and ammunition to our arch-rival.
f-16,radar syatems, helicopters to missile they are giving everything to them which inturn i think is going to used against india.
we all know americans are very selfish. america wants to check china and for that purpose it is coming close to india.
CHINA is our neighbour and we dont want another die hard enemy at our borders.china and india are coming close these days irrespective of their differences.
after all " WE CAN CHANGE FRIENDS NOT NEIGHBOURS"
even in india you will find that some consider america as a friend and some as foe. IF WE CHOOSE TO GO TOO CLOSE TO AMERICA thn we will lose some old friends like RUSSIA. BUT WE CANT IGNORE US AS WELL AS ITS THE SOLE SUPERPOWER ON EARTH.
i think its worth to discuss our relations with america the superpower.
 
There are no permanent foes or friends, there are only permanent interests. Till we keep this in mind, we won't make mistakes in dealing with nations. Everyone will like to be friend of India till we are a strong nation. I see nothing wrong in India being friendly to USA, Russia and China simultaneously like USA is to India and Pakistan and even to China. Let us not get emotional about these relations. India of today is much more matured nation and know where her interests are...

RK^2
 
rkumar said:
There are no permanent foes or friends, there are only permanent interests. Till we keep this in mind, we won't make mistakes in dealing with nations. Everyone will like to be friend of India till we are a strong nation. I see nothing wrong in India being friendly to USA, Russia and China simultaneously like USA is to India and Pakistan and even to China. Let us not get emotional about these relations. India of today is much more matured nation and know where her interests are...

RK^2
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ABSOLUTELY RIGHT .........

in Foreign Relations nobody is nobodys friend ... self-interest guide all relationships and collaborations .. there are no emotions involved .....

And the Americans are the most thankless nation when it comes to their Foreign policy .. they are too arrogant of their might & power .. look how they treat their most favourite & the most faithful dog - the UK .....

Dont expect any charity or frienldly intentions from the Americans or from anybody else for that matter ...
 
Patels are mostly in cheap to average motels, by no means they control 85% of hotels in US. I bet not only 5 of the top 500 hotels in US are owned by Indians
 
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saharan21 said:
AFTER i think its worth to discuss our relations with america the superpower.
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Hi,

If we go through the history, we'll get a trend about America.. It dangerous to be enemy of America but its fatal to be her friend.

Iraq used to be great friend of America, Results are here.

In the world of globalization, we can't afford to ignore US, Its super power, economy power house of world.

I think this a time to take balance approach and keep a tight vigil on our intrests.

I really appreciate the healthy ties of india with Iran and Cuba.

We need to send very clear signal to US that we are rubbing shoulders with them now.

Regards
Yudhvir Mor
 
In politics you dont have permanents foe's and friends.......India along with China is the next BIG thing in terms of the economic super-powers are concerned and US being the current superpower in all respect.

This makes India and US as natural allies as to check the growing power of China. This is the new light of argument in which US is also seeing India. We should accept this gesture of US and try to foster good and strong relationship with it as being beneficial to both.

The current Indo US nuclear deal should be seen as an endorsement to our status as a Nuclear Capable State and thus providing legitimacy to our nuclear program. I know some people here may say that we dont need certificate from US to legitimize our nuclear program, but pratically speaking US support is crucial at this point in time for us to grow in stature.

But India should continue to be a Non Aligned nation. We also have to be concious of the foreign policies of US in regard to the middle-east and other troubled nations.


PS. In terms of foreign policy towards Pakistan, I strongly believe that US is friendly to Musharraf and not Pakistan.
 
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In todays globalization era we need strong friends. US with its superpower status and strong economy is a good alley for us.

As long as our National intrests are not compromised there is nothing wrong in having US as a friend.
 
I would say US is a natural ally being having democratic values to the core.
and now in the fight against Terrorism.
 
Regardless of how you vote on this blog. The Vote has already been cast and you're stuck with the US. You are undeniably our best buddy!

Please help me with some logic first:

-Please list the countries in the world that display "thankful foreign relations?"

-Please also list the nation-states that build foreign policy based others interests.

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Regardless of the friend/foe question, the fact is that India and the US economies (since 1995) are woven so closely together that the momentum for a strong (and overwhelmingly positive) relationship is almost unavoidable. Interwoven by what? Fiber optic cable.

Sorry to burst any bubbles. Jump on the US bandwagon? Forget it, your already on it. Maybe an interesting question back in the 90s. You can vote how you want, but believe me, you're a friend whether you like it our not. All you can do now is hold on tight and do some blogging.

The beneficiaries of this relationship is undeniably the middle-class in India, and the tech industry in the US. The mass exodus of engineering talent from India (often labeled as brain drain and considered unpatriotic) has come full circle and brought big money investment to the India born middle class, who can now stay in India (be an Indian patriot) and avoid the shame of coming to America and eating a hot dog. Believe me, India did a brilliant job of prepositioning herself for outsourcing, and snatching up all the fiber optic cable running between our continents in the 90s. That was not unintentional.

Trading of defense capabilities (we're only scratching the surface today) is a natural bi-product of this relationship. Let's go beyond the high profile Nuclear Deal. Billions of dollars of capabilities are being shared between the US and India. Combatant commanders of both nations train together on a regular basis (very regular). Indians will be buying Boeing Jet's, IAF officers study doctrine together with their US counterparts. Give it up guys, WE'RE BUDDIES.

Jockeying for position in a competitive world? You bet. In all honesty, I think India has done a much better job of staying close to her ideals and pursuing her National Interests. India has gained advantage at every step, and is likely to become the worlds leading democratic superpower very quickly. The US has, and always will cultivate this. India has the soft power to accomplish its goals in the world, in concert with the US. What if India locked down it's #1 export (it's minds). American economy would be in big trouble. Think India exerted any pressure on the US to share technologies? I don't recall any thank you's to the US. None required. It was exertion of soft power. US virtually had no choice.

Still feeling a little insecure about the US pakistan relationship? Pakistan was perfectly positioned to gain US favor in lieu of India in 2001. What happened? They were beat to the buzzer. Fact: India blew the competition out of the water and built a booming economy with US relations while Pakistan gained very little out of their relationship. Why? Democratic ideals and free enterprise. Both are well rooted in our governments. Yeah, Pakistan got a few jets out of it. US hands out F-16s like party favors. India got an engagement ring in the form of a symbiotic economic relationship. THE SOFT POWER OF CHOICE THESE DAYS. AND INDIA USED IT. Hell, Bollywood has more influence in the US than Pakistan.

Grumpy about Iraq? A lot of people are. I don't see that spoiling a relationship that is already so deep and well intentioned, far more external than a foreign policy blunder on the US part. Did you ever have a best friend that screwed up? Were they forgiven? Think a little deeper. In the end we're best buddies, whether you like it our not. So order up a cheeze pizza, and don't be afraid to feel good about the relationship. It's a good one.

For more on this subject, pick up and read Tom Friedman's "The World is Flat." Lot's of good insight there.
sincerely
Ravi
 
Regardless of how you vote on this blog. The Vote has already been cast and you're stuck with the US. You are undeniably our best buddy!

Please help me with some logic first:

-Please list the countries in the world that display "thankful foreign relations?"

-Please also list the nation-states that build foreign policy based others interests.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regardless of the friend/foe question, the fact is that India and the US economies (since 1995) are woven so closely together that the momentum for a strong (and overwhelmingly positive) relationship is almost unavoidable. Interwoven by what? Fiber optic cable.

Sorry to burst any bubbles. Jump on the US bandwagon? Forget it, your already on it. Maybe an interesting question back in the 90s. You can vote how you want, but believe me, you're a friend whether you like it our not. All you can do now is hold on tight and do some blogging.

The beneficiaries of this relationship is undeniably the middle-class in India, and the tech industry in the US. The mass exodus of engineering talent from India (often labeled as brain drain and considered unpatriotic) has come full circle and brought big money investment to the India born middle class, who can now stay in India (be an Indian patriot) and avoid the shame of coming to America and eating a hot dog. Believe me, India did a brilliant job of prepositioning herself for outsourcing, and snatching up all the fiber optic cable running between our continents in the 90s. That was not unintentional.

Trading of defense capabilities (we're only scratching the surface today) is a natural bi-product of this relationship. Let's go beyond the high profile Nuclear Deal. Billions of dollars of capabilities are being shared between the US and India. Combatant commanders of both nations train together on a regular basis (very regular). Indians will be buying Boeing Jet's, IAF officers study doctrine together with their US counterparts. Give it up guys, WE'RE BUDDIES.

Jockeying for position in a competitive world? You bet. In all honesty, I think India has done a much better job of staying close to her ideals and pursuing her National Interests. India has gained advantage at every step, and is likely to become the worlds leading democratic superpower very quickly. The US has, and always will cultivate this. India has the soft power to accomplish its goals in the world, in concert with the US. What if India locked down it's #1 export (it's minds). American economy would be in big trouble. Think India exerted any pressure on the US to share technologies? I don't recall any thank you's to the US. None required. It was exertion of soft power. US virtually had no choice.

Still feeling a little insecure about the US pakistan relationship? Pakistan was perfectly positioned to gain US favor in lieu of India in 2001. What happened? They were beat to the buzzer. Fact: India blew the competition out of the water and built a booming economy with US relations while Pakistan gained very little out of their relationship. Why? Democratic ideals and free enterprise. Both are well rooted in our governments. Yeah, Pakistan got a few jets out of it. US hands out F-16s like party favors. India got an engagement ring in the form of a symbiotic economic relationship. THE SOFT POWER OF CHOICE THESE DAYS. AND INDIA USED IT. Hell, Bollywood has more influence in the US than Pakistan.

Grumpy about Iraq? A lot of people are. I don't see that spoiling a relationship that is already so deep and well intentioned, far more external than a foreign policy blunder on the US part. Did you ever have a best friend that screwed up? Were they forgiven? Think a little deeper. In the end we're best buddies, whether you like it our not. So order up a cheeze pizza, and don't be afraid to feel good about the relationship. It's a good one.

For more on this subject, pick up and read Tom Friedman's "The World is Flat." Lot's of good insight there.
sincerely
Ravi
 
Regardless of how you vote on this blog. The Vote has already been cast and you're stuck with the US. You are undeniably our best buddy!

Please help me with some logic first:

-Please list the countries in the world that display "thankful foreign relations?"

-Please also list the nation-states that build foreign policy based others interests.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regardless of the friend/foe question, the fact is that India and the US economies (since 1995) are woven so closely together that the momentum for a strong (and overwhelmingly positive) relationship is almost unavoidable. Interwoven by what? Fiber optic cable. Ideology. Democratic Values. Cheese Pizza. Bollywood. Take your pick.

Sorry to burst any bubbles. Jump on the US bandwagon? Forget it, your already on it. Maybe an interesting question back in the 90s. You can vote how you want, but believe me, you're a friend whether you like it our not. All you can do now is hold on tight and do some blogging.

The beneficiaries of this relationship is undeniably the middle-class in India, and the tech industry in the US. The mass exodus of engineering talent from India (often labeled as brain drain and considered unpatriotic) has come full circle and brought big money investment to the India born middle class, who can now stay in India (be an Indian patriot) and avoid the shame of coming to America and eating a hot dog. Believe me, India did a brilliant job of prepositioning herself for outsourcing, and snatching up all the fiber optic cable running between our continents in the 90s. That was not unintentional.

Trading of defense capabilities (we're only scratching the surface today) is a natural bi-product of this relationship. Let's go beyond the high profile Nuclear Deal. Billions of dollars of capabilities are being shared between the US and India. Combatant commanders of both nations train together on a regular basis (very regular). Indians will be buying Boeing Jet's, IAF officers study doctrine together with their US counterparts. Give it up guys, WE'RE BUDDIES.

Jockeying for position in a competitive world? You bet. In all honesty, I think India has done a much better job of staying close to her ideals and pursuing her National Interests. India has gained advantage at every step, and is likely to become the worlds leading democratic superpower very quickly. The US has, and always will cultivate this. India has the soft power to accomplish its goals in the world, in concert with the US. What if India locked down it's #1 export (it's minds). American economy would be in big trouble. Think India exerted any pressure on the US to share technologies? I don't recall any thank you's to the US. None required. It was exertion of soft power. US virtually had no choice.

Still feeling a little insecure about the US pakistan relationship? Pakistan was perfectly positioned to gain US favor in lieu of India in 2001. What happened? They were beat to the buzzer. Fact: India blew the competition out of the water and built a booming economy with US relations while Pakistan gained very little out of their relationship. Why? Democratic ideals and free enterprise. Both are well rooted in our governments. Yeah, Pakistan got a few jets out of it. US hands out F-16s like party favors. India got an engagement ring in the form of a symbiotic economic relationship. THE SOFT POWER OF CHOICE THESE DAYS. AND INDIA USED IT. Hell, Bollywood has more influence in the US than Pakistan.

Grumpy about Iraq? A lot of people are. I don't see that spoiling a relationship that is already so deep and well intentioned, far more external than a foreign policy blunder on the US part. Did you ever have a best friend that screwed up? Were they forgiven? Think a little deeper. In the end we're best buddies, whether you like it our not. So order up a cheeze pizza, and don't be afraid to feel good about the relationship. It's a good one.

For more on this subject, pick up and read Tom Friedman's "The World is Flat." Lot's of good insight there.
sincerely
Ravi
 
chhillar said:
Patels are mostly in cheap to average motels, by no means they control 85% of hotels in US. I bet not only 5 of the top 500 hotels in US are owned by Indians
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forget about the toppest.... fact is indians do controll hospitality industry in US.... what lies in arguments is nothing and yes according to my info indians do own few ... i saw a doccumentry on discovery channel to support that.. may you do wonders NRI's all gud for you all..
 
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all i would like to know is what is static...................??????

things do change in life and so does the relations... wot to debate on this.... alll INDIA needs is power and performence... and the moment this blame game stops and we are on the track of receving things in life as well deleviring the best... we shall be the bosss ... les't forget the US for that matter
 
Indian government is the enemy of Indian ppl

Firstly, we are not unfriendly with the U.S.
They want to do business in India - thats all they want right now.
Our government is the one not opening up - thanks to communists (Prakash Karat).
Manmohan Singh and Chidambaram know what to do, but their hands are tied by the communists and Sonia Gandhi.
If we are to get more business, the government need to keep their hands off of business and citizens. People need to realize that the days of Fabian socialism by Nehru are over. That did enough damage already. 700 million ppl are still poor without education and healthcare.
Meddling in the business by the government through licenses, permits, red tape only encourages corruption.
Citizens need to get their heads out of their a** and realize that next time elections roll around - not to give their votes to communists.
 
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