bare-dare trend in bollywd nd indian audiances
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gussa aur mujhe...kabhi nahin......vikaas
verrry good thread indeed...
as kessu says..khudos..
hats off to u..!
its soo good 2 realize dat men feel dat way too...even its jst 4 d matter of posting it..hehe
n vikas,,,giv us sum of ur brain cells..or cardiac cells,,,or frm d knee joint..coz v r gonna make a tissue culture out of it n implant it into all d hypocrate men of dis world..
really nice thoughts...commendable,,,
deserves standing ovation
verrry good thread indeed...
as kessu says..khudos..
hats off to u..!
its soo good 2 realize dat men feel dat way too...even its jst 4 d matter of posting it..hehe
n vikas,,,giv us sum of ur brain cells..or cardiac cells,,,or frm d knee joint..coz v r gonna make a tissue culture out of it n implant it into all d hypocrate men of dis world..
really nice thoughts...commendable,,,
deserves standing ovation
deepshika said:verrry good thread indeed...
as kessu says..khudos..
hats off to u..!
its soo good 2 realize dat men feel dat way too...even its jst 4 d matter of posting it..hehe
n vikas,,,giv us sum of ur brain cells..or cardiac cells,,,or frm d knee joint..coz v r gonna make a tissue culture out of it n implant it into all d hypocrate men of dis world..
really nice thoughts...commendable,,,
deserves standing ovation
Meri bhi BHIN-KI BHIN....jo Deepshika Bebe ne ibbe-ibb kahi.
sorry folks...but i have many problems with this thread....please take it in a constructive way....my objections are as follows:
the title of this thread is 'bare dare trend in .........'
and the poll is 'should women lead independent lives.....'
this seems to suggest that women can lead independent lives only by daring or baring.....
also, 'independent' of what...family or financial or anything else....its an unclear question....
we should not aggravate the matter by discussing confused intermixed topics...it just sends out wrong signals...
Also, we are sort of implicitly passing a judgement here on women who are not independent (financially or whatever). This is trashing their 'other' roles in life and in society....
there have been numerous threads on these topics in jatland
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12844&highlight=equality
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10443
and to be honest, all this patronising talk is getting a bit boring (maybe because i have written number of times about it ...so apologies for calling it boring)....except once, no thread ever has been started by a female member of this forum...that itself is telling....
nobody's crying for help here....as one member put it...either the women keep subjugating or stand up and fight for themselves...well, i would say why do we need to fight for anything...there is no war going on here....
also, i dont understand why its always about women showing their skin in bollywood...why dont people talk about salman khan always appearing half naked in his songs and other similar heroes showing off their built bodies....its always men talking about females and how its proving difficult for them to protect their honour because of all this bare dare acts and 'kya ho raha hai society mein'........
if one has problem with westernisation of indian society....please just dont target women by talking about them all the time....mind u, men wear more western clothes in India then women...so why all this hue and cry about women.......i dont understand...
...please discuss it under 'westernisation of indian clothing'...
i just want to say that being a female i have strong objection in being talked about in a patronising way and being an object of attention all the time....please take the limelight away from the female population and let them be....then only they can be their natural self....like the male population is....there are crimes against men too but they dont have the political color of gender attached to it....
well lets put it this way, do you think every individual should lead an independent life....
the title of this thread is 'bare dare trend in .........'
and the poll is 'should women lead independent lives.....'
this seems to suggest that women can lead independent lives only by daring or baring.....
also, 'independent' of what...family or financial or anything else....its an unclear question....
we should not aggravate the matter by discussing confused intermixed topics...it just sends out wrong signals...
Also, we are sort of implicitly passing a judgement here on women who are not independent (financially or whatever). This is trashing their 'other' roles in life and in society....
there have been numerous threads on these topics in jatland
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12844&highlight=equality
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10443
and to be honest, all this patronising talk is getting a bit boring (maybe because i have written number of times about it ...so apologies for calling it boring)....except once, no thread ever has been started by a female member of this forum...that itself is telling....
nobody's crying for help here....as one member put it...either the women keep subjugating or stand up and fight for themselves...well, i would say why do we need to fight for anything...there is no war going on here....
also, i dont understand why its always about women showing their skin in bollywood...why dont people talk about salman khan always appearing half naked in his songs and other similar heroes showing off their built bodies....its always men talking about females and how its proving difficult for them to protect their honour because of all this bare dare acts and 'kya ho raha hai society mein'........
if one has problem with westernisation of indian society....please just dont target women by talking about them all the time....mind u, men wear more western clothes in India then women...so why all this hue and cry about women.......i dont understand...
...please discuss it under 'westernisation of indian clothing'...i just want to say that being a female i have strong objection in being talked about in a patronising way and being an object of attention all the time....please take the limelight away from the female population and let them be....then only they can be their natural self....like the male population is....there are crimes against men too but they dont have the political color of gender attached to it....
well lets put it this way, do you think every individual should lead an independent life....
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sunitahooda
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kaka Ji aap bhi....????bhinn ki bhinn....koi na jo appki meri bhi wahey sai katti bhinn ki bhinn devdahiya said:
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Well I don't have any problem if women are "daring to bare" (pun intended). Cloths are the basic hurdle in one's search to one's inner self. Who can testify it better than our Jain munis (no offences meant).
On a serious note, Mallika Sherawat's histrionics, cocky statements may have landed her under some big banners and brought instant fame, they have failed change the mindset of people in our community where honour killings, foeticides are still rampant (and I doubt if they were meant to).
Bottomline, unless our society liberate itself from from the clutches this kinda evils, i see no point in just liberating ourselves from clothes.
Well I don't have any problem if women are "daring to bare" (pun intended). Cloths are the basic hurdle in one's search to one's inner self. Who can testify it better than our Jain munis (no offences meant).
On a serious note, Mallika Sherawat's histrionics, cocky statements may have landed her under some big banners and brought instant fame, they have failed change the mindset of people in our community where honour killings, foeticides are still rampant (and I doubt if they were meant to).
Bottomline, unless our society liberate itself from from the clutches this kinda evils, i see no point in just liberating ourselves from clothes.
ratheetheraist
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continuing ..............
Dear All,,
thanks again 4 ur responses..............m contnuing frm where i left yes.....
People tell us tht we plagiarize( take some one else`s work etc. and pretend its one`s own) films,, as a matter of fact we plagiarize a lot many things ,, we plagiarize moral standars ,, and we also plagiarize criticism........
In context of Europe nd USA beauty contest may be n regressive or recreationary things ,, bt in India it is one step forward for a woman or a girl........ Who is not given the right to own her body........IT IS A MATTER OF PRIDE FOR A FAMILY..............
I`ll respect those families tht allows their daughters to participate in a beauty contest.........IT MEANS SHE HAS A FREE WILL
May be there is smthing wrong about the commercialization of a female body,, bt it does nt come alone ....you will find in the places where there is no commercialization of a female body,, or often kept in purdah,, beaten ,, subjugated or kept uneducated........
Dear All,,
thanks again 4 ur responses..............m contnuing frm where i left yes.....
People tell us tht we plagiarize( take some one else`s work etc. and pretend its one`s own) films,, as a matter of fact we plagiarize a lot many things ,, we plagiarize moral standars ,, and we also plagiarize criticism........
In context of Europe nd USA beauty contest may be n regressive or recreationary things ,, bt in India it is one step forward for a woman or a girl........ Who is not given the right to own her body........IT IS A MATTER OF PRIDE FOR A FAMILY..............
I`ll respect those families tht allows their daughters to participate in a beauty contest.........IT MEANS SHE HAS A FREE WILL
May be there is smthing wrong about the commercialization of a female body,, bt it does nt come alone ....you will find in the places where there is no commercialization of a female body,, or often kept in purdah,, beaten ,, subjugated or kept uneducated........
virenderkhokhar
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ratheetheraist
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nice.......
nice lines...........i think we all shall spread this mess as far as poss........
virender_khokhar said:
nice lines...........i think we all shall spread this mess as far as poss........
ratheetheraist
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just tring to finish off........
Societies where there is some crudity,, vulgarity, obscenity involved are the same societies where woman have a voice, a choice, rights and where women are accepted or are in the process of being accepted as human beings...........
It is just like NEWS..........If you have free press,, may b something will b printed which shud nt hav been printed.........BT THIS IS THE PRICE OF FREEDOM WHICH PRESS ND WE HAVE TO PAY.......
ANY SOCIETY THT GIVES DIGNITY AND EQUALITY TO WOMEN,,, and treats them as human beings,, has to accept tht there will be commercialization of FEMALE FORM TOO......................
We have to decide in which society we want to live in
1. A patriarchal male dominated society where woman will b sold nd bought,, sometimes out f marriage nd sometimes in PRETEXT of marriage..........
2. Or a society wher you have certain indiscreations, certain so-called immoral attitudes bt WHERE A WOMAN WILL BE FREE TO TOUCH THE SKY OF HER WISHES.........
I WILL GO FOR SECOND CHOICE...........YOU???????
Societies where there is some crudity,, vulgarity, obscenity involved are the same societies where woman have a voice, a choice, rights and where women are accepted or are in the process of being accepted as human beings...........
It is just like NEWS..........If you have free press,, may b something will b printed which shud nt hav been printed.........BT THIS IS THE PRICE OF FREEDOM WHICH PRESS ND WE HAVE TO PAY.......
ANY SOCIETY THT GIVES DIGNITY AND EQUALITY TO WOMEN,,, and treats them as human beings,, has to accept tht there will be commercialization of FEMALE FORM TOO......................
We have to decide in which society we want to live in
1. A patriarchal male dominated society where woman will b sold nd bought,, sometimes out f marriage nd sometimes in PRETEXT of marriage..........
2. Or a society wher you have certain indiscreations, certain so-called immoral attitudes bt WHERE A WOMAN WILL BE FREE TO TOUCH THE SKY OF HER WISHES.........
I WILL GO FOR SECOND CHOICE...........YOU???????
Rathi Bhai ji,
Wo to sab thik hai par aap gussa mat hua karo.
Ek to aap ko badabhai maankar kuchh likhte hai nahi to aaj ke jamane me kiske paas itna time hai.
I m not much experienced & just 24 yrs old.
So may be some of my word hurted u.
sorry for that.
Now I realize you got a very good & clear attitude towards females of the society.
Aap chandigh me rahe ho, modern lifestyle hai, to ho sakata hai aajkal kuchh aur hi trend chal raha ho.
Hum to koopmanduk jaise hai. woh to thoda gussa aa jata hai jab koi JATon ke baare bura kahta hai to jaise Mallika ke liye kabhi kabhi kah dete hai.
Par aap please gussa mat hua karo nahi to hum baalko ka kya hoga?
Kaise jiyenge?
Namaste Bhai Ji.
bye
yours
RAHUL NADAR (not nadir)
Chhota Bhai
Aur Prashant Bhai aaap bhi gussa mat kara karo,
Gussa karte hue aap bilkul bhi achchhe nahi lagte.
Thik hai bhai bye.
Bye
Wo to sab thik hai par aap gussa mat hua karo.
Ek to aap ko badabhai maankar kuchh likhte hai nahi to aaj ke jamane me kiske paas itna time hai.
I m not much experienced & just 24 yrs old.
So may be some of my word hurted u.
sorry for that.
Now I realize you got a very good & clear attitude towards females of the society.
Aap chandigh me rahe ho, modern lifestyle hai, to ho sakata hai aajkal kuchh aur hi trend chal raha ho.
Hum to koopmanduk jaise hai. woh to thoda gussa aa jata hai jab koi JATon ke baare bura kahta hai to jaise Mallika ke liye kabhi kabhi kah dete hai.
Par aap please gussa mat hua karo nahi to hum baalko ka kya hoga?
Kaise jiyenge?
Namaste Bhai Ji.
bye
yours
RAHUL NADAR (not nadir)
Chhota Bhai
Aur Prashant Bhai aaap bhi gussa mat kara karo,
Gussa karte hue aap bilkul bhi achchhe nahi lagte.
Thik hai bhai bye.
Bye
ratheetheraist
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crsnadar said:
bhai NADAR ................yar m frm ur age group only nd this thinking has nthg to do wth the place u live in......bt with the thinking u live with in the place wher u reside........the life f chd has never effected my thoughts abt nything in this world.............bt i m happy people support this issue f mine nd the grls here feel better in comparison wth other places in india.........
its jus matter f thought man nd u know............we shud have flexible nature in respect f our thoughts for improving ourselves nd society......nd try to change our surroundings according to ur wish.........ndi m sure if u today inculcate this thing there at ur place...........the result will surely come one day..............bt u hav to b patient nd far sightd..........i joined law as a profession jus for the sake f helping mainly my jat frnds nd the women(whom wee call as the weaker sec of society) ..........nd this will continue till the day comes............
nd dear frnd u never hurt me............these silly saing nd quotes nt hamper me much....its the thought of urs tht made me a bit agressive tht how cud tht bb..............bt nyways.........all s well........nd i wish u gd luck nd hope u spread these thoughts to our jat community nd i will b happy tht a bit f my job is done............
thnks again..........
ARR GURU MAIN ITNA BADDA NAA SUUNN........25 KA HOYAA THA 18 JAN NEEY KASSAAII..................hahahah............jus chill man......
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