Bikharte Aashiyan

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Hi all,

...was out of Jatland for about a week. No, wasn't on a space mission...just landed up on my holy Delhi mother earth.

Here is what I feel on the topic being discussed:

It has come with education. People, Jats in particular, used to be within their own boundaries earlier. Seldom they used to move out of their villages and even if they did their mindset was, in many cases it still is, totally traditional. Nowadays, not just husbands but wives too are working. Leave apart teachers, there are many who are working in IT {taking IT as an example 'coz mez too an IT guy :-)}. Because of hectic work schedules they need to stay late in office many-a-times. Now, this is what troubles their family. Sasu's want someone at home who could give them a helping hand while the sasurs are still wondering what actually they work on computers. In almost all the cases it is unacceptable. "NO no....no Software voftware girl. We would rather prefer a teacher-girl for our son" is what we get to hear more often these days. Don't know what is in store for me though. :-).

If you ask me, the girl should be intelligent enough to handle both part of their lives. At the same time, the parents at home should also understand and accept occasional late nights the girl needs to take in office. It has to be mutual. If not, trouble it would be, surely.

As far as dowry is concerned it would be far much better if the girl brings some intelligence rather than the so-called materialistic things. If you ask me, the life of a girl after marriage is very demanding...very tough. My salute to all women who, with their understanding and intelligence, live their lives serving their parents and working on a job, peacefully.

with salutes,
$umit
 
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bhot lecture maray hai chohra.

hahaha....

bhai, itni merr lega chohriyan ki tay waa kahwat suni hai naa: aanglee pakdaa dee, arr sarr pa chadd gaya.

aaj kaal chohri ghanni liberated ho rhi sain. pahlyan sassoo lathh diye rehti thee tay bahu kadey aaakda na karti. eeb sassoo arr chohraa alag rhayaa karan. tay sassoo ka lath sar pa konya.

jibbay meain nyun kahun sun ak bhai apni bhodiya pay rob jamaa ka raakh, nahin tay apni maa na apne dhore raakh.

arr meri baat nahin mann ni ta beshak matt maan.
 
Interesting Sumit

dahiyarules said:
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bhot lecture maray hai chohra.

hahaha....

bhai, itni merr lega chohriyan ki tay waa kahwat suni hai naa: aanglee pakdaa dee, arr sarr pa chadd gaya.

aaj kaal chohri ghanni liberated ho rhi sain. pahlyan sassoo lathh diye rehti thee tay bahu kadey aaakda na karti. eeb sassoo arr chohraa alag rhayaa karan. tay sassoo ka lath sar pa konya.

jibbay meain nyun kahun sun ak bhai apni bhodiya pay rob jamaa ka raakh, nahin tay apni maa na apne dhore raakh.



Ha..ha..ha...ha. Bhai Sumit ya baat nahin banne.Aaj kal koe nahin sunne ar jadd pe marwawei....gaye wo din te pachhe ne jib MULLA JI PHAKTTE UDDATE THHE.....In 21 century it is give and take.......Both have to share the burdons of day to day livings and are required to respect each other....na te bhai fer te ye aashiyan nyu hein bikhreingge...????
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I think the competition all around and glitter all around in the form of electronic media have taken its toll. Semi-literacy and filmi glitter make our youth make day-dream a bit too much. When they are confronted with the bitter life realties they buckle under pressure and are unable to handle the situation. Departure from joint family system and onset of nucleus family system has an important role to play in children behaving in an arrogant way and not being able to adjust in new family set-up after marriage.
 
True

ramksehrawat said:
I think the competition all around and glitter all around in the form of electronic media have taken its toll. Semi-literacy and filmi glitter make our youth make day-dream a bit too much. When they are confronted with the bitter life realties they buckle under pressure and are unable to handle the situation. Departure from joint family system and onset of nucleus family system has an important role to play in children behaving in an arrogant way and not being able to adjust in new family set-up after marriage.






Bilkul sahi baat hei sehrawat bhai saheb. Anyway let us wish them best of every thing.
 
Well in the process both fails ...

Society is changing don't know for good or family system is slowly breaking.
We are rapidly following(aping?) western culture.

Western culture:
Women started working in west when there was shortage of labours and not enough men ( most of them diverted to war-zones ). Slowly they had 2 earning members family - Result kids getting ignored in most of the cases. These kids grew up and started their own families ... the kind of families we see in today (eg America) - a high percentage of single parent families. Staying together for 4-5 years is considered as good (Wow!!). Parents are considered as separate family.

How far we have progressed:
Women started getting education. Though I never understood when women did not get eductation but men did!! Except last one/two generation behind which most of us were illiterates ( at least I can recall in villages how many men can read/write -- I need correct stats for this ). Women started working (good double salaries !!!) - sometime it was need as single salary was not able to cope up with rising costs , other times it was following a trend. Her working status will at least keep her away from home for some time. After office you will have enough friends that you can spend entire evening talking to them. Then since you are earning your sasuji will cook and wash (if you have not already force them to separate) ... Otherwise why not try new restran at the corner?
If his parent comment out something then there are her parents to take care of them and not to forget her brothers who are 'ever-ready' to take you back at the drop of hat (though there its a different matter that you pay for/share household expenses as you are earning - otherwise it will disturb his own family equation).
Kids are involved into all sort of crimes ... you know all those !! Who cares for them - there are kid-centers to take care of them ( most of them even uses seductives to calm babies )

I don;t support the past where women had to be dependent on men (whoose fault - her own parents, who prefer their son's education over her) and he used to take advantage of her for that dependence. Most of the times main source of income was agriculture - plain muscle work. I hate when in-laws burn the brides for some money - no excuse but simple death penalty for them.

Her parents are very critical when she calls her many cases simply because she was not able to adjust/do her part. But they will keep quiet when they used to suppress her expectations over their sons. They will organize a big marriage events even though his parents specifically asked not to - But because they wanted to show off to their own relatives and social circle.Then they will brag about the amount they spent on marriage. But they will simply skirt the issue of giving property rights to her daughter. How many parents in this forum has divided/plan to devide the property equally among sons and daughters?

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There are few threads which tell how current womens can use some biased laws to settle score - I suggest you should have a look before 'kan ke neeche bajana'.

Just because past was bad - I cann't say current is better. Both men and women need to decide what they want? They both will fail in their biological role if future generation fails.

Sorry for writing so long. These are my own views and may be incorrect - Any correction is appreciated.
 
Very Well said Manoj

Your observation is based on certain facts Manoj....Keep writing and sharing your thoughts. Thanks for the post.
 
You are right

sumitsehrawat said:
Hi all,

...was out of Jatland for about a week. No, wasn't on a space mission...just landed up on my holy Delhi mother earth.

Here is what I feel on the topic being discussed:

It has come with education. People, Jats in particular, used to be within their own boundaries earlier. Seldom they used to move out of their villages and even if they did their mindset was, in many cases it still is, totally traditional. Nowadays, not just husbands but wives too are working. Leave apart teachers, there are many who are working in IT {taking IT as an example 'coz mez too an IT guy :-)}. Because of hectic work schedules they need to stay late in office many-a-times. Now, this is what troubles their family. Sasu's want someone at home who could give them a helping hand while the sasurs are still wondering what actually they work on computers. In almost all the cases it is unacceptable. "NO no....no Software voftware girl. We would rather prefer a teacher-girl for our son" is what we get to hear more often these days. Don't know what is in store for me though. :-).

If you ask me, the girl should be intelligent enough to handle both part of their lives. At the same time, the parents at home should also understand and accept occasional late nights the girl needs to take in office. It has to be mutual. If not, trouble it would be, surely.

As far as dowry is concerned it would be far much better if the girl brings some intelligence rather than the so-called materialistic things. If you ask me, the life of a girl after marriage is very demanding...very tough. My salute to all women who, with their understanding and intelligence, live their lives serving their parents and working on a job, peacefully.

with salutes,
$umit



Our female members have not participated in this discussion. Kindly say somthing.
 
Tolerance

It is all about the tolerance for partener's point of view and acceptance of him or her the way one is. Problem creeps in when one of them tries to change the other to suit the convinience of the former.We must give breathing space to our partner and not consider her/him as purchased property.Husband and wife are indviduals also and when both allow each other to grow as an indvidual also, the problems will not surface. But this is easier said than done because there is a strong feeling lurking in the mind specially in that of men that once married, the lady must listen to the diktats of the husband and there lies the problem. In today's world women are becoming more and more financialy independent and are quick to assert for their rights and dignity and in such circumstances a great deal of understanding and allowance is called for. Love ofcourse is wonderful thing which is good enough a tonic to counter other bikerings successfuly.
 
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