BJP and JAT

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BJP offered some good polices for JATS but never able to delivered message to them as their poor leadership and poor participation of Jat in party.

*Reserversation for JATS in UP during the BJP rule under Late Mr Gupta(CM).Even in rural Jat comunity they dont know BJP gave reservation to them.
*Credit card for Kisan
*Rs.1000 Cr Package for Sugar cane payment during NDA rule.


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Piyush Tomar
 
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BJP offered some good polices for JATS but never able to delivered message to them as their poor leadership and poor participation of Jat in party.

*Reserversation for JATS in UP during the BJP rule under Late Mr Gupta(CM).Even in rural Jat comunity they dont know BJP gave reservation to them.
*Credit card for Kisan
*Rs.1000 Cr Package for Sugar cane payment during NDA rule.


Please send your comment .

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Piyush Tomar

Amazing,a toddler in politics, as I see from the picture, a case fit to go in the book of records
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do they reallly exist... so callled nation favouring politicions / parties..... to be very honest they alll SUCK..... bosss remembe every one's here to take advantage.... i may sound like a typical dissatisfied MAN but then that the blooody fact.... yahan koi kisssi ka nahi hai.... n bloody these so called politician dogs are just here for money like we run for money and avenues in our lives they do so... COMEONNNN its age... learn they are here to mint money and not for real social cause.... my appeal STOP RESPECTING THEM
 
On a Lighter but real note------>B(Bhago!) J(jat) P(Pitenge!)=BJP.

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bhoot achee bat kahee dost, wastav me BJP walo ko bhee ye soch lena chahiye. BJP poonjee patiyo kee party rahee hai isme jyadatar brahman, baniye or rajpooto ka bahoolay raha hai. Kisano kee ye party kab se ho gayee pata nai or waise ko konsa rajnijita dal jo kisano ke bare me sochta hai?

netra.....
 
And What About Other Parties?

Some times we dont' even know what we are writing or talking, for we have our very strong likings and dislikings or say convictions.

When I was growing up I used to hear from the village elders "Jansangh to Sarmayedaron Ki Party Hai". Well at that age, I did not even know the meaning of Sarmayedar. These elders never explained me that word or I never asked them that word. In simplicity it boiled down to the party of Baniya's and Brahmins. I would have been Bania, Brahmin and Rajputs if Rajputs were a deciding factor in Western UP. The fact is most of the people who entered politics irrespective of their caste or religion were rich, wheter it was Jansangh, (BJP) or Congress (old or new, (I) or not aeyee).

Whatever Mr. Tomar has written may be true. I am neither a BJP fan nor a Congress fan. My political views are issue based and my choice of a politician is based on his/her credibility as I perceive it. What I intend to discuss is that which is the political party that has done a lot for farmers, and if that party did a good job why did farmers rejected them?

We all agree that India is an agricultural economy. 70% people live off agriculture. If that be so, then a political party which was known as farmer's party (BKD, or later Lok Dal) should have never lost in elections. But the fact of matter is they did. What are the reasons? Does this demotivates the political parties to do some thing for farmers.

The truth is, though we call that we are doing for farmers, labor class, or poor, we still belive that we are doing for jats, rajputs, brahmins and bania's. What pains me a lot is that since ages we as a community are claiming that we are the best community in hard work, honesty and what not (by our definition of these words) and for all our failures we are blaming Brahmins and Banias and in some cases even Rajputs and SC/ST etc. I always wonder and ask myself a question: that if we were the best, how is that people not better than us could harm us?)

I think we need to get out of our perceptions of Political parties and communities. We have good and bad people every where including in our own community. We probably need to redefine our definitions of hard work, truthfulness, and honesty. The configuration of parties have changed over the past 60 years. Even ideology may have changed in these years in various political parties and communities. Let us try and build a Indian community rather than divide it. Let us look beyond our nose and make our outlook broader. Let me assure you, the picture would be much more clear if we do so.

I know, my comments may not be to the liking of some of us, but then that is OK, that is why we have a discussion. I invite comments from members about my own perception. And let me assure you please: "Criticism if it hurts, it was well deserved"
 
Which CM Gupta?

BJP offered some good polices for JATS but never able to delivered message to them as their poor leadership and poor participation of Jat in party.

*Reserversation for JATS in UP during the BJP rule under Late Mr Gupta(CM).Even in rural Jat comunity they dont know BJP gave reservation to them.
*Credit card for Kisan
*Rs.1000 Cr Package for Sugar cane payment during NDA rule.


Please send your comment .

Thanks
Piyush Tomar

Dear Mr. Tomar,

Which CM: Gupta you are talking about? I know only two CM with that last name in UP: The first one Chandra Bhan Gupta: Congress and second one Mr. Banarsidas Gupta (short term as Janta Party Candidate). When Janta party was breaking up, and elections were to be held in UP in early 1980, I remember one of my class fellow who was Engineer and was one of the negotiators for agitating engineers, told me some thing very disturbing about Mr. Banarsi Das Gupta. What he said is that the CM told their delegation, that during elections his party is going to lose and he may not be CM after the elections are over. He wanted money from them to contest election to accept their demands. He said that CM told them that he would accept all demands what ever they may have, if they paid him the money he wanted, he actually even calculated the amount each agitating engineer would have to contribute to make the sum of money he was demanding?
 
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amazing ......BJP has really florished JATS? par mere bhai, why BJP make a horrible silence when WEstern UP JAts speak abt sugarcane rates? Tell me who will be better for JATS CHOTTE-Chaudhary/ Sompal Shastri?? ..make a sensible decision? WEstern UP Jats are recognised due to Chaudhary Sahab (Chaudhary charan singh) We don't want to lose our identity any how?........................................
BJP offered some good polices for JATS but never able to delivered message to them as their poor leadership and poor participation of Jat in party.

*Reserversation for JATS in UP during the BJP rule under Late Mr Gupta(CM).Even in rural Jat comunity they dont know BJP gave reservation to them.
*Credit card for Kisan
*Rs.1000 Cr Package for Sugar cane payment during NDA rule.


Please send your comment .

Thanks
Piyush Tomar
 
Mr Ram Prakash Gupta Was the CM
amazing ......BJP has really florished JATS? par mere bhai, why BJP make a horrible silence when WEstern UP JAts speak abt sugarcane rates? Tell me who will be better for JATS CHOTTE-Chaudhary/ Sompal Shastri?? ..make a sensible decision? WEstern UP Jats are recognised due to Chaudhary Sahab (Chaudhary charan singh) We don't want to lose our identity any how?........................................

Dear Mr. Tomar,

Which CM: Gupta you are talking about? I know only two CM with that last name in UP: The first one Chandra Bhan Gupta: Congress and second one Mr. Banarsidas Gupta (short term as Janta Party Candidate). When Janta party was breaking up, and elections were to be held in UP in early 1980, I remember one of my class fellow who was Engineer and was one of the negotiators for agitating engineers, told me some thing very disturbing about Mr. Banarsi Das Gupta. What he said is that the CM told their delegation, that during elections his party is going to lose and he may not be CM after the elections are over. He wanted money from them to contest election to accept their demands. He said that CM told them that he would accept all demands what ever they may have, if they paid him the money he wanted, he actually even calculated the amount each agitating engineer would have to contribute to make the sum of money he was demanding?
 
CM: Mr. Gupta

Mr Ram Prakash Gupta Was the CM

Dear Mr. Tomar,

I have never heard of him. May be he was the CM for a short duration while BJP was in power in recent times. What was his tenurer? How long was he the CM. I would like to learn more about him. I know BJP had Kalyan Singh and Mr. Rajnath Singh as CMs. While I am not a supporter for any political party, I would definitely not like to see SP and BSP coming into power even in coilation partners. These parties have really looted the state. Not that others have any better, but the national parties do have some control over state governments for if they do any thing wrong that affects their national campaign. For local parties, stakes are not as high as for national parties. It would be a good thing if the entire nation aligns around two major political parties namely congress and BJP.
 
Not the last but the least, Jats don't have any other option except Chhotte Chaudhary. It 's a bitter truth............Might be u are not aware abt the actual scenario.. If a western UP Jats look for a poltical approach, he never walks up for Rajnath Singh/Atal Bihari/Advani........he will be seen at Chotte chaudhary residence. If Chotte chaudhatry would not represent us, we would not have acquired what presently we have........... Understand mere bhai........................
Tell me the single reason why you supporting..Ajit Singh
 
Advani don't like jats and which he has expressed in his sppech during last election in haryana and he openly spoke against jats and Sh chautala.

Same thing he did last week in western up when he told in Ghaziabad that wheter you want Jati land against what ch. ajait singh is taking of haritpradesh. We all should try from our side to strengthen Ch. Ajit singh so that he can get Harit pradesh into reality. Which means all states around Delhi will be controlled by Jat Majority. Which means one more developed state and development of society also will take place economically,education etc.
 
Jo bhi ho!

Sabko Namste,
People, it's very easy to say he is not doind anything or other one is doing nice! This is politics. There are so many things to look after.
Ajit Singh Ji never got so many seats. Every time be limited to 10-15 ya 20 bus.
Itna hote hue bhi agar koi apni baat manwa leta hai to ye achievement hoga ya nahi? Let him get more seats once 40-45 then see what happens!
By the way polls are over in western UP i think. or may be at only few places it remains.

I hate BJP because it imposed the OBC tag on JATs.
Ajit Singh Ji also on reservation side.. which is his only weak point.

Harit Pradesh samay ki maang hai....
 
OBC and Jats

Friends,

Nothing bad about taking advantage of the system and getting labelled as OBC, if that's what enables you.

Frankly, we were (and perhaphs still are) backward in many senses.

Admit it. Get over it and Move Forward.
 
agreeed!

rock on
Jit


Friends,

Nothing bad about taking advantage of the system and getting labelled as OBC, if that's what enables you.

Frankly, we were (and perhaphs still are) backward in many senses.

Admit it. Get over it and Move Forward.
 
!!

NEVER

can say it my individual opinion, but it is so.
Anyway I don't wanna put any conflict with my JAT bhais.
bye
 
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