BJP ke paas Jat Chehra kaun hai?

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phoolkumar

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BJP ke paas Jat chehre kaun hai? Kal ko BJP ki govt. banegi to Jats ki taraf se koi to unko center mein cabinet minister banana hoga, kam se Jats ki population ki ratio ke hisaab se 2-3 chehre to hone chahiye.....idhar Haryana mein to ye non-jat CM banaane ki politics karte hain....aur fir Jats ke votes bhi chahte hain?

Hope ki Jat bhai pahle BJP se ye baaten confirm karwaayen, warna kahin aisa na ho ki jaise congress center cabinet ke 10 mein se 8 saal Jats ko baahar rakha, aur almost kuchh nahin diya.... kahin BJP bhi aise hi shaabit ho, vaise bhi BJP ka purana record hai Jats ka saath chhodne ka wo fir chaahe 1991 mein Tau Devilal ki V.P. Singh ke saath waali govt. giraane ka ho....ya Bansilal ki Vikas Party ki govt. giraane ka aur aisa hi 2004 mein INLD ke saath kiya.......

so Jats be aware...abki baar vote dene se pahle apna share fix and confirm karwaao......kyonki history se agar itna bhi nahin sikha to fir se sara vote bank koodedaan mein jaane jaise ho jayega.....aur wahi frustation fir se gher legi jiski vajah se aaj Congress se Jats unsatisfied najar aate hain!

Haryana, Punjab mein to shayad ye alliance bhi bana lenge but Western U.P., Rajshthan and Delhi mein to koi chehra nahin najar aata BJP ke paas Jat ke naam pe?
 
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phoolkumar said:
BJP ke paas Jat chehre kaun hai? Kal ko BJP ki govt. banegi to Jats ki taraf se koi to unko center mein cabinet minister banana hoga, kam se Jats ki population ki ratio ke hisaab se 2-3 chehre to hone chahiye.....idhar Haryana mein to ye non-jat CM banaane ki politics karte hain....aur fir Jats ke votes bhi chahte hain?

Hope ki Jat bhai pahle BJP se ye baaten confirm karwaayen, warna kahin aisa na ho ki jaise congress center cabinet ke 10 mein se 8 saal Jats ko baahar rakha, aur almost kuchh nahin diya.... kahin BJP bhi aise hi shaabit ho, vaise bhi BJP ka purana record hai Jats ka saath chhodne ka wo fir chaahe 1991 mein Tau Devilal ki V.P. Singh ke saath waali govt. giraane ka ho....ya Bansilal ki Vikas Party ki govt. giraane ka aur aisa hi 2004 mein INLD ke saath kiya.......

so Jats be aware...abki baar vote dene se pahle apna share fix and confirm karwaao......kyonki history se agar itna bhi nahin sikha to fir se sara vote bank koodedaan mein jaane jaise ho jayega.....aur wahi frustation fir se gher legi jiski vajah se aaj Congress se Jats unsatisfied najar aate hain!

Haryana, Punjab mein to shayad ye alliance bhi bana lenge but Western U.P., Rajshthan and Delhi mein to koi chehra nahin najar aata BJP ke paas Jat ke naam pe?
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Phool Bhai, Now we have to play very diplomatically, We need to support blindly the BJP after killing of JATS in Muzaffarnagar, We have to unit with BJP without any thought that BJP has JAT leader or Not, If all the JATS of Rajasthan ,Haryana & UP and other states to Unite after BJP and we have 40 MP from JAT dominated area then party will automatically realize the power of JATS in center and states
 
Brother Bhavnaon mein mat baho, abhi bhi Jats ke 25 ke kareeb MP hain aur kitna hamaare haath aa raha hai center se hamaare haath, ye sab jaante hain......aur agar aapke according Jats ke 40MP aa bhi gaye to saare BJP ke hi aayen ye jaroori nahin, abhi bhi 25 MP different-different parties mein distributed hain aur aane waale time mein bhi distributed rahenge.

aur main yahaan jis cheej ko Jats ko sochne ki kah raha hu wo hai ki kyaa kaaran hai ki Khatri Punjabi hardly 1% of total population hone ke baad bhi on an average 2-3 in center cabinet rahe hain, Brahmins all India population ka 3-4% hone par bhi cabinet mein 5-6 posts acquire kiye hue hain aur hum 8% hone par bhi last 8-10 years ke period mein hardly 2 years hi koi wo bhi 1 Jat cabinet mein rakh paaye hain......aur ye situations badli jaayen usko aur main point out kar raha hu......

aur is sab ka jo reason main pata ho kuchh aise hai:

1) Ye log socially ek hain, jabki hamaare waale abhi Muzaffarnagar ke dangon par bhi rajneeti kar rahe the
2) Inka apni community ka minimum common social agenda sabko pata hai, jabki hamaare waalon ka koi agenda hi nahin ya kaho hota.
3) Inke paas religious back-up hai, promotion and support schemes hain, jabki Jats ko ek to khud ye hi anti-brahmin bolte hain, uspe Jats khud decided nahin hain ki unki religious interests kyaa hain.....most of us idhar-udhar kukarmutte ki tarah paida hue Godmen ke pairon mein rahte hain.....jabki hamaare apne history ke heros, stallwarts, saints, dada khedas dhool faank rahe hain.....
4) Hmaari Khaps ko despite the region, state, gotra ek minimum common agenda banana chahiye aur iske liye hum JL ke members ko apne-a^pne gotra gaon iske baare awareness failani chahiye ki unke bachche, peedhi unko kis roop mein dekhna chahti hain.....
5) Reservation maang rahe hain par uske liye bhi dhadon mein bante hue hain....kyaa inki ego kaum se badh ke hai.....


Straight-forward baat hai jab tak Jats ke social leaders, chaahe wo Khaps hon, chaahe wo Jat Mahasabha wagarah ke naam se bane anginat Jat Dharmarth Sangthan hon, chaahe wo Reservation ke andolan ko chalaane waale hon....jab tak ye log ek "MINIMUM COMMON INTEREST of JATS" agenda nahin banayenge hamara vote sirf bhavnaon ke dam pe hi jata rahega....hamaare samaaj ka bhavishay aise hi adhar mein latkega.....

isliye JL members apne-apne local social leaders ko push karen all India Jats ka ek "MINIMUM COMMON AGENDA" banaane ke liye.....

there are many-more things which other friends can enlist and dicuss.

krishdel said:
Phool Bhai, Now we have to play very diplomatically, We need to support blindly the BJP after killing of JATS in Muzaffarnagar, We have to unit with BJP without any thought that BJP has JAT leader or Not, If all the JATS of Rajasthan ,Haryana & UP and other states to Unite after BJP and we have 40 MP from JAT dominated area then party will automatically realize the power of JATS in center and states
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No party can be a true representative of Jats as the community itself doesn't vote as a block. Its not a homogeneous entity. Its divided by state boundaries, languages and religions. Even within a particular state, the community's votes are spread across parties. Perhaps now due to the recent events, the western UP Jats may vote for a single party, but that too looks unlikely.
 
krishdel said:
Phool Bhai, Now we have to play very diplomatically, We need to support blindly the BJP after killing of JATS in Muzaffarnagar, We have to unit with BJP without any thought that BJP has JAT leader or Not, If all the JATS of Rajasthan ,Haryana & UP and other states to Unite after BJP and we have 40 MP from JAT dominated area then party will automatically realize the power of JATS in center and states
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So we can straight fall into the trap set by BJP by instigating the riots?
 
Thats true brother and a well known universal fact even, no community in this world from any country, have been voting for a single party in unanimity. They all have been dispersed on political front. But what is found most common thing is the point of "minimum common agenda".....and despite being dispersed politically, they have strong interlinked network to get the works of their community done by whatever party comes into power.....and this is the point where our community lacks......firstly they don't have any Minimum Common Agenda defined, which are made for that whatever party will come into power, their these demands from community point of view should be fullfilled.....Second of course if first is not in place, where from the unity internal to community will come......

Otherwise its not like that other communities are not dispersed, for example take Khatri Punjabies....one side in congress if they have Manmohan Singh, Kapil Sibbal, Montek Singh Ahluwalia etc. on congress side then they have Shushma Swaraj, Madanlal Khurana, Arun Jaitely (not sure about his caste but seems Khatri Punjabi), in BJP side......its all settled through their internal communal network and they are pretty clear what minimum common for their community they have to attain or achieve through political power......similar is the case of Brahmins and Baniya communities, whereas we are almost out of such publicly dispersed but internally bound to community interests representatives......

and this is where the time is belling on us to work up on......

swaich said:
No party can be a true representative of Jats as the community itself doesn't vote as a block. Its not a homogeneous entity. Its divided by state boundaries, languages and religions. Even within a particular state, the community's votes are spread across parties. Perhaps now due to the recent events, the western UP Jats may vote for a single party, but that too looks unlikely.
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Its a simple case of diveded house.. Jats have never been united..and have observed in many cases jats never help each other openly where as other communities do so very openly..
Lets first start by helping each other even if one does not know him.. Just knowing that one is jat v should help.
 
BHAI..Aaj tak ki pehli dimaag wali baat lagi mujhey ye aapki..per ideal soch hai..not practical..kyunki jo ye baat karengey ya vote detey hain wo thode niman madhyam satar ke log hain..itna na samajhtey..and padhey likhey log vote kam hi daltey hain..so who will put this matter in front of BJP or any other party???
desijat said:
Why do we need an option? Why cant we unite and make them beg to our demands for vote?
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desijat said:
So we can straight fall into the trap set by BJP by instigating the riots?
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Who instigated the riots ? Not BJP, riots were instigated by SP,Congress & BSP, It has been clear after AAJ TAK Sting operation, After MahaPanchayat people were returing peacefully , It was the planned attack by Muslims on Jats at Jolly Canal. Planned attack are always more dangerous than riots. See the Kashmir history then you will know how dangerous are planned attack.
 
It is very true.... though coming all jats together is not impossible, but it is more unlikely event....Last week, I was in my village and mat several local leaders and friends....I found that all are fad up with Muslims.... and all of them feel that "Modi" can make them straight, ....but still a sizeable group talk about RLD...Some of Jats are divided at village level as per their local politics and proximities....
swaich said:
No party can be a true representative of Jats as the community itself doesn't vote as a block. Its not a homogeneous entity. Its divided by state boundaries, languages and religions. Even within a particular state, the community's votes are spread across parties. Perhaps now due to the recent events, the western UP Jats may vote for a single party, but that too looks unlikely.
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