BJP leader Jaswant Singh writes a book admiring Jinnah was!

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Yeh aadmi aisa kyoon kar raha hae apni kitab mein? :confused
Pehle advani jaate hae jinnah ki kabr par apna aadar dene. phir ab jaswant singh ZJinnah ka gun gaa raha hae? :confused:
 
JASWANT and JINNAH ...Your views.

Dear friends,

Ek or naya bakheda (quite usual in BJP).

Jaswant Singh's view "that Sardar Patel along with Nehru had "conceded" Pakistan to Jinnah. :mad:

Eulogising Jinnah in his book, Jaswant Singh has said that the founder of Pakistan was "demonised" by India, while it was actually Jawaharlal Nehru, India's first prime minister, whose belief in a centralised polity had led to the partition of the country in 1947.:mad:

http://samachaar.in/Politics/Jaswant's_views_on_Jinnah_not_ours,_says_BJP_88850/

So guys...What's ur views on JASWANT's new book??????
 
satyenderdeswal said:
Dear friends,

Ek or naya bakheda (quite usual in BJP).

Jaswant Singh's view "that Sardar Patel along with Nehru had "conceded" Pakistan to Jinnah. :mad:

Eulogising Jinnah in his book, Jaswant Singh has said that the founder of Pakistan was "demonised" by India, while it was actually Jawaharlal Nehru, India's first prime minister, whose belief in a centralised polity had led to the partition of the country in 1947.:mad:

http://samachaar.in/Politics/Jaswant's_views_on_Jinnah_not_ours,_says_BJP_88850/

So guys...What's ur views on JASWANT's new book??????
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kharridan ka koye vichar nahi
pehlam padhunga fer bolunga
Media hype kitab bechan khater bhi ho sake hai
 
Will NEVER EVER VOTE FOR BJP !


JASWANT SINGHJI was expelled ONLY becoz "He is the man who cannot be bought. He will voice out anything wrong being done".

Somewhere there is FEAR in minds of money making leaders!

One section of BJP want to end VAJPAYEE's ji group within the party.

MORE IMPORTANT TO THIS DRAMA --
REFUGEE LEADERS WANT TO HOLD ON THE POWER IN BJP
THEIR DREAM IS TO PROJECT BJP AS REFUGEE PARTY WHICH IS ANTI CONGRESS ONLY BECOZ , ITS CONGRESS PARTY WHICH ACCEPTED DIVISION OF NATION AND SUCH LEADERS ( LIKE ADVANI SUSHMA SWARAJ NARENDRA MODI ) AND THEIR FATHERS HAVE TO LEFT THEIR ANCESTRAL HOMES AND TAKE SHELTER IN INDEPEN DENT INDIA.
 
This is just a public stunt in the name of appeasing minority, but these cards won't work out fruitfully.As Mr Jaswant singh was already facing oppositions from his fellow partymens and media was neglecting him for the past few days so its seems he got right opportunity to remain in light.But sure he will not get a pat on his back .
 
Is BJP with Pakistan???

I dont know why, BJP's politicians are always somehow praising Pakistan and it's Jinaah!!!

First it was LK Advani now Jaswant Singh. I dont know whats written in book but according to newspaper its all praise for Jinnah and some bad things about Vallabh Bhai Patel.

I think these persons want to go to Pakistan n wahan se apni politics ki dukaan kholna chate hain. Yahan to unka kuch hone wala nai!!!!

Its really a bad feeling for us that there are so many Indians in India who always have lived here, got so much from this motherland but praise some other countries and their persons. Inko to desh nikala dedena chaiye. I just want to ask how many times a Pakistani has written a book or has come to India and said that J.L. Nehru/Mahtma Gandhi or any other great leader of our country as hero. Infact a few months back I read in newspaper that Pakistani Books shows Mahtama Gandhi as villian and because of him the riots happened. Look how disgraceful it is and still some of us are praising those Pakistani Bas....s.:mad:
 
You are absolutely rit...Ab to Bhartiya Jinnah Party hi lagti hai...Advani ji phhol chadhatey hai Jinnah ki Kabar per to Jaswant unko mahan neta batatey hai....Inko to Pakistan bhej dena chahiye...Aukaat samajh ajayegi apni...:mad:
cooljat said:
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BJP = Bharatiya Janta Party or Bharatiya Jinna Party ?? :rolleyes::eek:

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BJP has lost it!!

How can you expel a member for writing a book, a founding member at that!!?? It is a book for god's sake! They took much more time in taking action against Bangaru Laxman who was caught on camera accepting bribe. Not even a show cause notice was served to Jaswant. They just called him up and told him that he is expelled. These guys have gone nuts! Clearly, they are doing it because of Jaswant's "rebellion" post polls. I mean, how can Mr. Advani look straight into Jaswant Singh's eyes and say that he has been expelled for writing a book on Jinnah- a book!! The same guy eulogised Jinnah after going to Pakistan! Talk about irony. BJP is going down the drain- quick and fast.
 
And for some facts...

I'd request members to look at the facts and not comment based on pre-conceived sentiments. We hate Jinnah because we have been taught to hate him. We are not biologically programmed to hate him. To add fuel to fire, the press is reporting as if Jaswant Singh has claimed that Jinnah had no role in partition and it was all Nehru/Patel's fault. His position is much much more nuanced. While I haven't read the book (yet), I am posting some links with excerpts from the book and Karan Thapar's interviews of Jaswant Singh, which shed a much better light on what Jaswant Singh has actually written (and not the crap which the media is reporting probably without turning a single page of the book).

Excerpts:
http://in.news.yahoo.com/43/20090819/818/tnl-key-excerpts-from-jaswant-singh-s-bo.html

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Jaswant-s-Jinnah/H1-Article1-443747.aspx

Interview Transcript:
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/nehru-as-responsible-for-partition-as-jinnah/99321-37.html
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/gandhi-jinnah-both-failed-jaswant/99323-37.html

I would post my views on the subject later.
 
BJP today without a good leadership is heading nowhere, under pressure from fundamentalist or from RSS or may be in order to appease the minorities, it is adopting one or another stance everyday, wihtout any cohesion or continuatio, expulsion of Jswant Ji (Only moderate face now in BJP) is the extreme......
 
More on the book...

sidchhikara said:
HEre is a detailed take on this Jaswant Singh episode:

http://greatbong.net/2009/08/20/the-power-of-history/
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Sid, thanks for the link. Interesting read. He does make some valid points.

Another article by someone who actually read the book.

"Jaswant Singh has not been expelled for his book. He could not have been, because it does not say anything untrue. Very quickly, this is what his book says:

1 In 1940, Jinnah’s Muslim League proposed that Muslims should have self-government

2 Between 1940 and 1946, Jinnah gained electoral support and was open for negotiations. However, he was snubbed by Congress leaders whose actions were either illogical (Gandhi) or tactless (Nehru). They wanted to rule India alone; Jinnah wanted a federation

3 On March 8, 1947, as killings began in Punjab, on both sides, Vallabhbhai Patel and Nehru accepted Partition in a resolution they passed in Gandhi’s and Azad’s absence

4 Congress could have done more to prevent Partition

5 Jinnah was modern and secular and would have been appalled by how Pakistan turned out None of this is wrong, or new. It is taught in history books. Does Jaswant say Partition was a good thing? No. Does he blame Patel for it? No. If there is one man Jaswant holds most responsible for Partition, it is in fact Jinnah and his “continued rigidity, his fixed stand on an ever increasing charter of demands for the Muslims, an ever larger share of power for them in Independent India (page 504).”

Patel is mentioned in the book in six places (pages 13, 289, 418, 459, 461 and 488). Not in one place has Jaswant said an unkind word about him. So when Rajnath is angry with Jaswant’s views on Patel, he must be hallucinating. But he is not. And that is because Jaswant’s punishment is not for his book at all. It is about the elections that the BJP lost under Rajnath’s presidency, Advani’s candidacy and Jaitley’s management."

Link:
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/index.a...15&contentid=200908202009082004023415fa5a68f8

And excerpts from the book here:
http://www.mumbaimirror.com/article...n-more-to-Pakistan-at-Partition.html?pageno=1
 
kapil.dalal said:
4 Congress could have done more to prevent Partition
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Thanks to all for some good links on this. While not going on waht the BJP is doing on this and taking a random , illogical stand on BJP , why not read the above highlighted thing. And especially for the pro-Congress junta.

I am a small person and I take a very simple example and of my own. I am working on a project and that will change a lot in my firm , we all know in our hearts and mind that its going to be do more good than bad ( at all!) but still its been delayed for more than 3 months now and more and more testing is being called for , more proofs to really prove that the new infrast ructure and processes will be more correct. It is not that my manager does not trust me , its just that if something goes wrong , he will face the FIRE.

Going by the same analogy , its all good to put blame on Muslim League / Jinnah for the partition but I assume Congress was the leader of maases at that time and how on earth they can be so short-sighted to allow this to happen. Was not the decision of partition took in a bit of haste? Was everyone in Congress happy with that? If it was for good then why Gandhi (With all due regar ds to him!)opposed it at the beginning and then if so strong was his resolve (which he always showed during the independence movement ) why did he at all buckled under any pressure to accept the partition.

Very simple common sense shows that for achieveing bigger things you have to give sacrifices; nothing is for free , free arbitrage does not e xist , then how can congress go the path of buckling down und er pressure from Muslim League / Congress / riots / bloodshed ?


Yes , The BJP "ala-kamaan" (as it is said in the political circles) should take responsibility of the elections and any other things related to them and yes , going by whatever I have read of the Jaswant Singh case , they made a pretty wrong decision of expelling a big leader as Jaswant ; but at the same time , we must also appreciate that Congress (going by the smae logic) must also take the responsibility of the partition and I think thats prety evident in the poll on the best prime minist er where Nehru is virtually getting nothing! Simply sensitising things and playing a blame game should not be the case.

PS: I am not as learned as many of you , my comments are more out of logic than historical facts , please excuse me for that.


PS to Kapil : Just to be clear , i guess you understand that I just quoted something from your post , the post itself is not at all direct ed at you or anyone else , its in general.


Thanks,
Anil
 
The problem is with apportioning blame for partition as if it is like some road accident where one guy jumped the traffic light when it was red. It is not a black and white case that we divide all the personalities as heroes and villains- though that is the method adopted by our school text books. I quote from one of the links I posted earlier:

"confident that nobody will actually read Jaswant’s book. This includes the media which carried headlines like ‘Jaswant blames Patel, Nehru for Partition’. In India we like the idea of controversy, the details bore us."
 
Jinnah

Dear all,

I am not historian to comment on authenticity of the Book written by Jaswant Singh and it is not only about Jinnah but in all fronts BJP has lost its path.
 
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